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JFK · 05-05-2011, 10:57 AM

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onwebcam · 05-05-2011, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Agent 488

i know about that. but you have any real sources beyond the speculations of an ex-cop who has had multiple mental breakdowns during his life and a convict that PROMIS was morphed into what Ruppert claims it is now?

Ruppert wrote that article in 2000. Prior to 2001.

It's it FACT that Ptech who's office was raided by the feds for suspicion of terrorism supplied EVERY US federal agency with it's software.

Morphed into? How hard do you think it is to control a plane with a computer that has autopilot? Especially when you have the key to the backdoor?

Agent 488 · 05-05-2011, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam

Ruppert wrote that article in 2000. Prior to 2001.

It's it FACT that Ptech who's office was raided by the feds for suspicion of terrorism supplied EVERY US federal agency with it's software.

Morphed into? How hard do you think it is to control a plane with a computer that has autopilot?

Inslaw developed for the United States Department of Justice a highly efficient, people-tracking, software program known as: Prosecutor's Management Information System (Promis).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inslaw

there is no proof that it does what ruppert or the convict claim it does. it cannot control planes.

onwebcam · 05-05-2011, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Agent 488

Inslaw developed for the United States Department of Justice a highly efficient, people-tracking, software program known as: Prosecutor's Management Information System (Promis).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inslaw

there is no proof that it does what ruppert or the convict claim it does. it cannot control planes.

Which was stolen and turned into Ptech..

Agent 488 · 05-05-2011, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam

Which was stolen and turned into Ptech..

links? proof? aside from ruppert or his shitty sources?

onwebcam · 05-05-2011, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Agent 488

links? proof? aside from ruppert or his shitty sources?

The INSLAW Octopus

"(S)everal individuals testified under oath that Inslaw's PROMIS software was stolen and distributed internationally"

http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/1.01/inslaw_pr.html

Application of Network Centric Warfare Concepts to a Land-Air System

1 Introduction
In an attempt to demonstrate that the coordination and synchronisation of force elements of a
Land-Air System-of-systems (LAS) could be effectively achieved with the use of Network Centric
Warfare (NCW) concepts, we have constructed a system concept demonstrator (SCD) and
exercised this in a Synthetic Environment (SE). The LAS is a synergism of platform components,
C4ISR technologies and the people and procedures. Traditionally the formation, tasking and
command and control (C2) of Battlegroups, such as the LAS, has been accomplished by following
standardised procedures involving hierarchical lines of command and communication. This
process can lead to large time delays between task initiation and required effect and also can
impose a lot of rigidity to the mission plans. As a consequence, air strike missions in support of
land operations, for example, are not very responsive and tend to be restricted to targets with
fixed location. There is considerable potential for NCW technology to change this situation but
any introduction of technology must be accompanied by the development of new procedures and
operational doctrine. We have previously described (ref 1) a system-of-systems (SoS)
development and evaluation methodology, which is a combination of system architecting,Page 2

4. Ptech Inc., (http://www.ptechinc.com/) Using Framework – Ptech Framework 5.3 for
Windows, 1998. Also see: G. Kingston, P. Prekop, M. Chin, R. Jones, D. Kilpatrick and
P. Collier, “Applying Ptech Framework to Modelling Operational Architectures”,
Proceedings for Defence Operations Analysis Symposium (DOAS) Canberra, 16 – 17
March 2000.Page 13

http://www.dodccrp.org/events/6th_IC...k2/049_tr2.pdf

1994: Ptech Founded with Support from Suspected Terrorism Financiers

http://www.historycommons.org/contex...mi#a94ptechbmi

Barefootsies · 05-05-2011, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Agent 488

Agent 488 · 05-05-2011, 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onwebcam

The INSLAW Octopus

"(S)everal individuals testified under oath that Inslaw's PROMIS software was stolen and distributed internationally"

http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/1.01/inslaw_pr.html

Application of Network Centric Warfare Concepts to a Land-Air System

1 Introduction
In an attempt to demonstrate that the coordination and synchronisation of force elements of a
Land-Air System-of-systems (LAS) could be effectively achieved with the use of Network Centric
Warfare (NCW) concepts, we have constructed a system concept demonstrator (SCD) and
exercised this in a Synthetic Environment (SE). The LAS is a synergism of platform components,
C4ISR technologies and the people and procedures. Traditionally the formation, tasking and
command and control (C2) of Battlegroups, such as the LAS, has been accomplished by following
standardised procedures involving hierarchical lines of command and communication. This
process can lead to large time delays between task initiation and required effect and also can
impose a lot of rigidity to the mission plans. As a consequence, air strike missions in support of
land operations, for example, are not very responsive and tend to be restricted to targets with
fixed location. There is considerable potential for NCW technology to change this situation but
any introduction of technology must be accompanied by the development of new procedures and
operational doctrine. We have previously described (ref 1) a system-of-systems (SoS)
development and evaluation methodology, which is a combination of system architecting,Page 2

4. Ptech Inc., (http://www.ptechinc.com/) Using Framework ? Ptech Framework 5.3 for
Windows, 1998. Also see: G. Kingston, P. Prekop, M. Chin, R. Jones, D. Kilpatrick and
P. Collier, ?Applying Ptech Framework to Modelling Operational Architectures?,
Proceedings for Defence Operations Analysis Symposium (DOAS) Canberra, 16 ? 17
March 2000.Page 13

http://www.dodccrp.org/events/6th_IC...k2/049_tr2.pdf

yes it was stolen but zero proof it was modified into some kind of AI software than can control planes.

onwebcam · 05-05-2011, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Agent 488

yes it was stolen but zero proof it was modified into some kind of AI software than can control planes.

The software itself is AI. To control a plane all you need is the backdoor.... How about we try this. You hook your computer up to everything electronic in your house. Send me over your IP, login and pass and let me have some fun. Or if you want to make it easier and give a better demonstration install gotomypc or something along those lines on there and send me the info..

Agent 488 · 05-05-2011, 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onwebcam

The software itself is AI. To control a plane all you need is the backdoor key.... How about we try this. You hook your computer up to everything electronic in your house. Send me over your IP, login and pass and let me have some fun.

as usual you have no proof for any of your claims but crack pot circle jerk sources.

not the sanest foundation for a worldview.

onwebcam · 05-05-2011, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Agent 488

as usual you have no proof for any of your claims but crack pot circle jerk sources.

not the sanest foundation for a worldview.

What the fuck are you talking about? You say there's no way it can be done. That has to be the stupidest thing I've ever heard from someone in the IT business. Go tell all that to Sony.. They need some good advisors like yourself apparently.

Agent 488 · 05-05-2011, 11:58 AM

waste of time discussing this with you. you have nothing. enjoy your delusions.

Vendzilla · 05-05-2011, 12:02 PM

The thing about this conspiracy is that when exacly was the last time we saw a video from Osama?

As far as Bush not wanting to take credit and letting Barry take it, you assume they are not working together, they could just be working both sides to get the right result

helterskelter808 · 05-05-2011, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ShellyCrash

I think the best way to handle it is actually how they have been handeling it. Burrial at sea ensures there is no shrine. No photos so there are no graphic images used for propaganda for terrorists to try and evoke an emotional response fro their base.

The only people who are going to be upset at seeing Osama shot are people who support Osama anyway. Most people won't even want to see it (if it really is gory I'm not sure I want to), most of those who do see it are going to be repulsed if it's as gory as they are claiming, and a few (sociopaths) are going to like it.

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They have the pics and we will probably eventually see them in 10 or 20 years. Shit, I wouldn't be surprised if they still have the body but that prob won't come out.

If you can accept they're lying about throwing him away (keeping his dead body seems the least likely of all scenarios to me) then you should accept they might be lying about other things.

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I know it doesn't feel as satisfying to not see the proof, but if this guy was still alive he would make another video and prove it.

Why would they bother to make a video to prove he's still alive? Surely it's reasonable for them to claim to have a video showing he's still alive, and when asked to show the video, come up with some spurious reason not to. (Like it might offend Americans.)

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 05-05-2011, 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onwebcam

The INSLAW Octopus

"(S)everal individuals testified under oath that Inslaw's PROMIS software was stolen and distributed internationally"

http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/1.01/inslaw_pr.html

Application of Network Centric Warfare Concepts to a Land-Air System

1 Introduction
In an attempt to demonstrate that the coordination and synchronisation of force elements of a
Land-Air System-of-systems (LAS) could be effectively achieved with the use of Network Centric
Warfare (NCW) concepts, we have constructed a system concept demonstrator (SCD) and
exercised this in a Synthetic Environment (SE). The LAS is a synergism of platform components,
C4ISR technologies and the people and procedures. Traditionally the formation, tasking and
command and control (C2) of Battlegroups, such as the LAS, has been accomplished by following
standardised procedures involving hierarchical lines of command and communication. This
process can lead to large time delays between task initiation and required effect and also can
impose a lot of rigidity to the mission plans. As a consequence, air strike missions in support of
land operations, for example, are not very responsive and tend to be restricted to targets with
fixed location. There is considerable potential for NCW technology to change this situation but
any introduction of technology must be accompanied by the development of new procedures and
operational doctrine. We have previously described (ref 1) a system-of-systems (SoS)
development and evaluation methodology, which is a combination of system architecting,Page 2

4. Ptech Inc., (http://www.ptechinc.com/) Using Framework ? Ptech Framework 5.3 for
Windows, 1998. Also see: G. Kingston, P. Prekop, M. Chin, R. Jones, D. Kilpatrick and
P. Collier, ?Applying Ptech Framework to Modelling Operational Architectures?,
Proceedings for Defence Operations Analysis Symposium (DOAS) Canberra, 16 ? 17
March 2000.Page 13

http://www.dodccrp.org/events/6th_IC...k2/049_tr2.pdf

1994: Ptech Founded with Support from Suspected Terrorism Financiers

http://www.historycommons.org/contex...mi#a94ptechbmi

ADG

czarina · 05-05-2011, 01:07 PM

actually that's quite believable

uno · 05-05-2011, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Agent 488

you don't even know what PROMIS is.

I believe he's thinking about an episode of the short-lived series The Lone Gunmen and confusing that with something else he's read online.

zeuse · 05-05-2011, 02:46 PM

If they had kept his body you would have planes dropping out of the sky until they agreed to release his corpse.

onwebcam · 05-05-2011, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by zeuse

If they had kept his body you would have planes dropping out of the sky until they agreed to release his corpse.

Only if they are allowed on the plane

"Federal agents also tell ABCNews.com they are attempting to identify a man who passengers said helped Abdulmutallab change planes for Detroit when he landed in Amsterdam from Lagos, Nigeria.

Authorities had initially discounted the passenger accounts, but the agents say there is a growing belief the man have played a role to make sure Abdulmutallab "did not get cold feet."

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/female...9636341&page=2

Shoddy Software Let Underwear Bomber On Plane
http://www.businessinsider.com/shodd...n-plane-2010-1

Sharp-dressed man aided terror suspect Umar Farouk Abdul Mutallab onto plane without passport

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/abdulm...ory?id=9430536

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05-05-2011, 12:02 PM	#113
Vendzilla Biker Gnome Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: cell#324 Posts: 23,201	The thing about this conspiracy is that when exacly was the last time we saw a video from Osama? As far as Bush not wanting to take credit and letting Barry take it, you assume they are not working together, they could just be working both sides to get the right result __________________ Webair died? Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants think about that

05-05-2011, 11:58 AM	#112
Agent 488 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22,511	waste of time discussing this with you. you have nothing. enjoy your delusions.

05-05-2011, 01:07 PM	#116
czarina Webmaster Extraordinaire Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: A beautiful beach... Posts: 10,740	actually that's quite believable

05-05-2011, 02:46 PM	#118
zeuse Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: + ENGLAND Posts: 499	If they had kept his body you would have planes dropping out of the sky until they agreed to release his corpse.