How Many Of You Guys Buy Blu Ray Movies - GoFuckYourself.com

mikesinner · 05-12-2011, 02:11 AM

I have over 250 so far but I will be giving the away as prizes in my next WCG contests. Most are brand new other than being watched once, most of them still have the digital copy code unused.

This is the channel I'm going to use for this. I should have a camera by the end of June to start doing these. I also have about 75 PS3/360 games I will be giving out.
https://youtube.com/user/endthedisease

I notice on youtube that a lot of people buy them. Some people have massive collections. I want to find out how many of you buy them and why.

mikesinner · 05-12-2011, 02:27 AM

A lot of the titles I get I would normally not buy but if they have tons of extra stuff like 50 minutes of interviews I will pick it up if it's something I'm into.

The problem is most of these are special editions with two or more blu rays and will often be over $30 new. Most of these second disks are not available at redbox or on netflix.

I do have a netflix account but I have noticed that some movies just don't look as good as they do on blu ray. They claim that everything is streamed at 1080p but it's obviously not. I watched the new star trek movie and it looked amazing but I watched the sorcerers apprentice and it looked horrible even though it's a newer movie. I admit that netflix is the future but it will be many years before they get the streaming quality to an acceptable level.

mikesinner · 05-12-2011, 05:16 AM

5 votes and no replies?

DateDoc · 05-12-2011, 05:21 AM

7 votes 1 reply

theS2O · 05-12-2011, 05:26 AM

Nope. I just download them and hook my laptop to the tv.

The Truth Hurts · 05-12-2011, 05:29 AM

i buy blu-rays. have 397 of them.
i buy dvds. have 2,984 of them.
still have 75 hd-dvds hanging around as well.

format i buy depends solely on the movie.

spazlabz · 05-12-2011, 05:39 AM

I buy a lot of them but only so I can view the videos in hi def. I dont much care about the special features

marlboroack · 05-12-2011, 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by theS2O

Nope. I just download them and hook my laptop to the tv.

Last DVD i spent money on was Conehead

Spunky · 05-12-2011, 05:46 AM

I just rent them,watching them once is enough

Sly · 05-12-2011, 05:58 AM

I bought a BluRay player last fall with two movies. I have yet to watch them. Should just sell the damn thing.

mikesinner · 05-12-2011, 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by theS2O

Nope. I just download them and hook my laptop to the tv.

I couldn't do that. with a big screen HD TV I can't see streaming from the net. Almost everything looks like crap unless you get it from netflix or a VOD site.

pornguy · 05-12-2011, 06:26 AM

I still have DVD for now as 98% of the movies we buy are for my son. No sense in paying almost double the price for a disk that will most likely get dropped, get covered in food or be thrown as a Frisbee from time to time.

Wife usese them to throw at me as a weapon..

MrBottomTooth · 05-12-2011, 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by mikesinner

I couldn't do that. with a big screen HD TV I can't see streaming from the net. Almost everything looks like crap unless you get it from netflix or a VOD site.

He's talking about downloading torrents. They usually look great at 4 GB and higher sizes. Most people couldn't tell the difference between the blu-ray and the compressed pirated copy.

GetSCORECash · 05-12-2011, 07:08 AM

When I got my player several years back at the low price of $550, I purchased several discs. I've bought one or two movies via eBay, but I haven't bought a single disc in last year.

Rochard · 05-12-2011, 09:05 AM

I still by dvds and have no intention on upgrading to Blu Ray. I've never downloaded entire movies yet.

Tasty1 · 05-12-2011, 09:09 AM

I choose:
- I still use dvds but I plan on updating to blu ray

because there is no option:
- I still use dvds and won't buy a blu ray player

candyflip · 05-12-2011, 09:10 AM

I buy them and usually don't even bother opening them. I just download a copy via torrents into my HTPC. 1080p HD downloads FTW!

Scott McD · 05-12-2011, 09:14 AM

I use my PS3 as my Blu-Ray player. Don't watch many movies with it though. Only have about 8 movies i think...

mikesinner · 05-12-2011, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by MrBottomTooth

He's talking about downloading torrents. They usually look great at 4 GB and higher sizes. Most people couldn't tell the difference between the blu-ray and the compressed pirated copy.

On a proper HD flatscreen I have to disagree.

michael.kickass · 05-12-2011, 10:03 AM

I'd rather use FullHD dvds

mikesinner · 05-12-2011, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by michael.kickass

I'd rather use FullHD dvds

It's not really full HD on a DVD unless it's a very old title. In order to fit the movie on the DVD disk the quality must be reduced. I forget what the technical term is.

JFK · 05-12-2011, 10:19 AM

Dvd's here, made a mistake and bought Sons of Anarchy the 1st season on Blue Ray, took it home and cursed myself for not reading the package. Was'nt going to buy a player just to watch it, so took it back and exchanged it

bronco67 · 05-12-2011, 10:20 AM

I used to think it was cool to own movies, but then I realize it for suckers. I'd rather use the money for something that won't sit on my shelf un-opened for years. I'll rent.

mikesinner · 05-12-2011, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by bronco67

I used to think it was cool to own movies, but then I realize it for suckers. I'd rather use the money for something that won't sit on my shelf un-opened for years. I'll rent.

I sort of agree with you but for my purposes I can still make use of them.

Cherry7 · 05-12-2011, 12:18 PM

Rent Blu Ray and they look fabulous projected - like at the cinema...

DVD still good for choice of tltles, old classics, rare movies etc...

But Blu Ray is fantastic not full HD but getting there.

mikesinner · 05-12-2011, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherry7

Rent Blu Ray and they look fabulous projected - like at the cinema...

DVD still good for choice of tltles, old classics, rare movies etc...

But Blu Ray is fantastic not full HD but getting there.

2160p is just around the corner. I wonder if they will come out with a new format for it.

lagwagon · 05-12-2011, 01:57 PM

i used to buy a lot, but now i just use Apple TV. Plus with this I can stream all my music into my living room with the remote app on the ipad, kinda like having a nice jukebox in there.

Alky · 05-12-2011, 02:02 PM

I can't believe with how cheap networked or even cloud storage is, that dvd/blurays still exist.

mikesinner · 05-12-2011, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Alky

I can't believe with how cheap networked or even cloud storage is, that dvd/blurays still exist.

1 blu ray is 50GB

Joxxy · 05-12-2011, 02:41 PM

I still buy Blu Rays...mostly anime and anything in a cool box

candyflip · 05-12-2011, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by mikesinner

On a proper HD flatscreen I have to disagree.

Disagree all you want, it's the truth.

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Originally Posted by mikesinner

1 blu ray is 50GB

That's how much they hold, that's by no means the size of the actual video file.

Seth Manson · 05-12-2011, 02:45 PM

I probably have 30 - 40 Blurays. I have to really, really like a certain movie to buy it. A few I owned on DVD and then bought the bluray just get the better image quality.

RyuLion · 05-12-2011, 02:46 PM

3D Blue Ray <--------------

Si · 05-12-2011, 02:56 PM

I buy dvds more, got about 60 blurays though.

For movie with special effects you cant beat a blu ray!

mikesinner · 05-12-2011, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by candyflip

Disagree all you want, it's the truth.

That's how much they hold, that's by no means the size of the actual video file.

Most of the newer ones take over half the disk. Even older ones take up 18-20. There are plenty of PS3 games that use up all or most of the space.

DVD movies always had to be compressed from the original movie to make them fit on the disk.

CYF · 05-12-2011, 03:49 PM

I still use DVD. With upscaling and progressive scan and everything, they look pretty good. I also use netflix.

No plans on going to blu ray.

fuzebox · 05-12-2011, 04:25 PM

I have an HD TV and a PS3, but have only ever watched one blu-ray. It was Resident Evil 4, and I rented it from Redbox. I was impressed by the high resolution for sure, but I'll probably stick with watching movies on Netflix

D Ghost · 05-12-2011, 04:26 PM

Discs are dead and a waste of space.

JustDaveXxx · 05-12-2011, 06:30 PM

I buy them for my 3 year old daughter. They are really cool and are interactive with kid games.

As for me, I never buy Blue Rays for me. I get them sent from blockbuster. I see them once and im done. Blue Rays do have cool extras that i dig on. And the quality is way noticeable.

mikesinner · 05-12-2011, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ The Kid

Discs are dead and a waste of space.

Not yet, maybe in another 5-10 years.

Blu ray and DVD sales are higher than ever. Even as the average Internet connection gets faster the movie industry will adjust by putting out more stuff with lots of extra features. This will keep collectors buying for a time. I think there is at least 10 years left before hard formats die out.

The Dawg · 05-12-2011, 10:56 PM

I only have 3 Blu Ray: Transformers 1,2 and Avatar. I stopped buying dvds for myself after my 1st son... My dvd players are full of yo gabba gabba stuff.

cooldude7 · 05-12-2011, 11:48 PM

No but I'll take anything that's free .,
as i m looking to buy ps3 :P

sabin · 05-13-2011, 12:01 AM

I have a blu ray drive on the computer but no standalone player. The difference really is quite noticeable, but I can't justify getting gouged so badly. I'll wait a few more years for prices to come down.

mikesinner · 05-13-2011, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by The Dawg

I only have 3 Blu Ray: Transformers 1,2 and Avatar. I stopped buying dvds for myself after my 1st son... My dvd players are full of yo gabba gabba stuff.

What is gabba gabba?

Scott McD · 05-13-2011, 09:18 AM

The last Blu-Ray i bought was Jackass 3 !!!!!

mikesinner · 05-13-2011, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by cooldude7

No but I'll take anything that's free .,
as i m looking to buy ps3 :P

Had a deal on amazon last week. Buy the 160GB model for $300 and get a $50 amazon gift certificate after the order ships.

MrBottomTooth · 05-13-2011, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by mikesinner

On a proper HD flatscreen I have to disagree.

I have watched 6 GB+ movies on a 71 inch 1080P TV and they look great. You would have to do a side by side comparison with the original blu-ray to see any difference at all. Keep in mind these are full 1080P videos with DTS or dolby digital sound.

These are much better quality than netflix or any streaming service.

MrBottomTooth · 05-13-2011, 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesinner

Most of the newer ones take over half the disk. Even older ones take up 18-20. There are plenty of PS3 games that use up all or most of the space.

DVD movies always had to be compressed from the original movie to make them fit on the disk.

A lot of that space is taken up by things like multiple audio tracks, commentary, etc., usually in Full HD audio. That shit takes up a lot of space. If you take out the HD audio and replace it with regular DTS or dolby digital, it saves tons of space, which is how all the torrents come. I have seen the odd one that has HD audio too, and their file sizes are much bigger.

Cherry7 · 05-13-2011, 03:10 PM

What is the price of Blu ray discs un the US ? In the UK they are still 2 to 3 times the price

mikesinner · 05-13-2011, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherry7

What is the price of Blu ray discs un the US ? In the UK they are still 2 to 3 times the price

$6 to $30 per title unless it's a box set.

View Poll Results: Do You Buy Blu Rays?
Yes, almost everything that comes out	2	3.23%
Only if it has tons of special features	1	1.61%
Only special editions, 3 disks, 4 disk titles	1	1.61%
Maybe one a week	6	9.68%
One a month at the most	9	14.52%
No but I'll take anything that's free	14	22.58%
I still use dvds but I plan on updating to blu ray	7	11.29%
Never, I use netflix or redbox only or I download	22	35.48%
Voters: 62. You may not vote on this poll

05-12-2011, 02:11 AM	#1
mikesinner Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 5,646	How Many Of You Guys Buy Blu Ray Movies I have over 250 so far but I will be giving the away as prizes in my next WCG contests. Most are brand new other than being watched once, most of them still have the digital copy code unused. This is the channel I'm going to use for this. I should have a camera by the end of June to start doing these. I also have about 75 PS3/360 games I will be giving out. https://youtube.com/user/endthedisease I notice on youtube that a lot of people buy them. Some people have massive collections. I want to find out how many of you buy them and why. __________________ My Best Sponsors MPl l Camsl CUMSHOTSl LESBIANSl FETISHl BJ RACESl TEEN BJl BSDMl VODl USE YOUR PC TO CURE CANCER

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mikesinner Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 5,646	A lot of the titles I get I would normally not buy but if they have tons of extra stuff like 50 minutes of interviews I will pick it up if it's something I'm into. The problem is most of these are special editions with two or more blu rays and will often be over $30 new. Most of these second disks are not available at redbox or on netflix. I do have a netflix account but I have noticed that some movies just don't look as good as they do on blu ray. They claim that everything is streamed at 1080p but it's obviously not. I watched the new star trek movie and it looked amazing but I watched the sorcerers apprentice and it looked horrible even though it's a newer movie. I admit that netflix is the future but it will be many years before they get the streaming quality to an acceptable level. __________________ My Best Sponsors MPl l Camsl CUMSHOTSl LESBIANSl FETISHl BJ RACESl TEEN BJl BSDMl VODl USE YOUR PC TO CURE CANCER

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theS2O Adult Design Since 2003 Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: s2odesigns.com Posts: 4,784	Nope. I just download them and hook my laptop to the tv. __________________ EMAIL ME at [email protected] for Design Inquiries! \| SKYPE: s2odesigns \| ICQ: 280646555 Adult/Mainstream Website Designs \| Illustrations, Toons & Corporate Logos S2O Designs - Making Awesome Logos & Websites Since 2003!

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The Truth Hurts Hb17uaaldwM Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: In Your Skull Posts: 15,152	i buy blu-rays. have 397 of them. i buy dvds. have 2,984 of them. still have 75 hd-dvds hanging around as well. format i buy depends solely on the movie.

05-12-2011, 05:39 AM	#7
spazlabz Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Kentucky Posts: 6,548	I buy a lot of them but only so I can view the videos in hi def. I dont much care about the special features

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Sly Let's do some business! Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 31,291	I bought a BluRay player last fall with two movies. I have yet to watch them. Should just sell the damn thing. __________________ Vacares - Web Hosting, Domains, O365, Security & More - Paxum and BTC Accepted Windows VPS now available. Wanted: CCBill pay sites for sale

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Tasty1 Judge Jury and Executioner Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: South-America Posts: 9,260	I choose: - I still use dvds but I plan on updating to blu ray because there is no option: - I still use dvds and won't buy a blu ray player __________________ everything is fake

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candyflip Carpe Visio Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: New York Posts: 43,052	I buy them and usually don't even bother opening them. I just download a copy via torrents into my HTPC. 1080p HD downloads FTW! __________________ Spend you some brain. Email Me Last edited by candyflip; 05-12-2011 at 09:11 AM..

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Scott McD Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Glasgow, Scotland Posts: 67,795	I use my PS3 as my Blu-Ray player. Don't watch many movies with it though. Only have about 8 movies i think... __________________ I Buy My High Quality Traffic Here, You Should Too!

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bronco67 Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 29,035	I used to think it was cool to own movies, but then I realize it for suckers. I'd rather use the money for something that won't sit on my shelf un-opened for years. I'll rent. __________________

05-12-2011, 12:18 PM	#25
Cherry7 Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: UK Posts: 3,564	Rent Blu Ray and they look fabulous projected - like at the cinema... DVD still good for choice of tltles, old classics, rare movies etc... But Blu Ray is fantastic not full HD but getting there. __________________ My Neighbour Butterfly PORN-The Musical The Long Goodbye Cinema Erotique

05-12-2011, 01:57 PM	#27
lagwagon Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: az Posts: 8,464	i used to buy a lot, but now i just use Apple TV. Plus with this I can stream all my music into my living room with the remote app on the ipad, kinda like having a nice jukebox in there. __________________ FTVGirls - FTVMilfs - DanielleFTV

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Alky Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Houston Posts: 5,651	I can't believe with how cheap networked or even cloud storage is, that dvd/blurays still exist.

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Seth Manson Please dont fuck animals Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Henderson, NV Posts: 3,988	I probably have 30 - 40 Blurays. I have to really, really like a certain movie to buy it. A few I owned on DVD and then bought the bluray just get the better image quality. __________________

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Si Such Fun! Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 13,900	I buy dvds more, got about 60 blurays though. For movie with special effects you cant beat a blu ray!

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fuzebox making it rain Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: seattle Posts: 22,013	I have an HD TV and a PS3, but have only ever watched one blu-ray. It was Resident Evil 4, and I rented it from Redbox. I was impressed by the high resolution for sure, but I'll probably stick with watching movies on Netflix

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D Ghost null Industry Role: Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 9,820	Discs are dead and a waste of space.

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JustDaveXxx I AM JUSTDAVE ! Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: LA Posts: 4,111	I buy them for my 3 year old daughter. They are really cool and are interactive with kid games. As for me, I never buy Blue Rays for me. I get them sent from blockbuster. I see them once and im done. Blue Rays do have cool extras that i dig on. And the quality is way noticeable. __________________ Smut Peddler Productions.com ICQ #378-696-435 / / Skype: JustDaveXxx "We shoot custom, exclusive content your way"

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The Dawg Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: State Of Bliss Posts: 2,438	I only have 3 Blu Ray: Transformers 1,2 and Avatar. I stopped buying dvds for myself after my 1st son... My dvd players are full of yo gabba gabba stuff.

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cooldude7 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Heaven Posts: 4,306	No but I'll take anything that's free ., as i m looking to buy ps3 :P

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sabin Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2011 Location: USA Posts: 60	I have a blu ray drive on the computer but no standalone player. The difference really is quite noticeable, but I can't justify getting gouged so badly. I'll wait a few more years for prices to come down. __________________ Add to my Site: Add your URL \| Add a Pornstar \|

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