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ArsewithClass · 05-11-2011, 06:15 PM

Hi all, I asked this on another thread, but it never was answered, maybe no one knows, maybe it was missed in all the Frisky & choker madhouse stuff

Im wondering if camsite owners needs a licence for music played on the website or if the owner can be fined & sued for the models playing music without a licence?
I know that a public premises & anywhere using the music for part of the act or background needs a licence to play dvd, cd, or radio. If there is no licence they can be fined.

How does it work for the camsite owner if they have a model playing music from home or a studio, possibly without a licence. Would the site owner also find themselves in a situation, considering huge companies such as virgin or interscope, have enough money to sue?

blackmonsters · 05-11-2011, 06:35 PM

Well, it's the kind of thing that you can do and get away with it for life.

But, if you ever make enough money that's worth taking
then you will not get away with it.

Barefootsies · 05-11-2011, 06:38 PM

There was a YouTube case on this a few years back. The record label sued some chick over her baby dancing to some tune on YouTube. The record companies lost. I believe the verdict was something along the lines of........ the music was not the central theme of the video (the baby doing the electric slide was).

So it was thrown out.

blackmonsters · 05-11-2011, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies

There was a YouTube case on this a few years back. The record label sued some chick over her baby dancing to some tune on YouTube. The record companies lost. I believe the verdict was something along the lines of........ the music was not the central theme of the video (the baby doing the electric slide was).

So it was thrown out.

Key words are "jury", "baby", "mom" and "youtube".

Key words were not "jury", "porn", "cam whore" and "you".

Failed · 05-11-2011, 06:53 PM

So I buy the cd, download the mp3, whatever, and I can't play it in the background if I'm on the phone, webcam, whatever? Fuck that shit

DigitalTheory · 05-11-2011, 06:54 PM

I always wondered that when i see these trailers using well known songs also. Wasnt there a case awhile back with inthevip getting sued for the songs spinning while they was filming.

Barefootsies · 05-11-2011, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by DigitalTheory

I always wondered that when i see these trailers using well known songs also. Wasnt there a case awhile back with inthevip getting sued for the songs spinning while they was filming.

Have gideongallery break out the VCR and Delorean so you can travel back in time for the verdict. On your journey, gg will break down the case for you complete with all of the legal this and that for your amusement. Citing case after case of time shifting while working the flux capacitor.

ArsewithClass · 05-12-2011, 01:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackmonsters

Well, it's the kind of thing that you can do and get away with it for life.

But, if you ever make enough money that's worth taking
then you will not get away with it.

I know where youre coming from there

So the idea would be not to make too much money or carefull of your camgirl models & camsites whitelabels

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies

There was a YouTube case on this a few years back. The record label sued some chick over her baby dancing to some tune on YouTube. The record companies lost. I believe the verdict was something along the lines of........ the music was not the central theme of the video (the baby doing the electric slide was).

So it was thrown out.

Nice one. Im glad they got away with it, as it seems like some fun & the women certainly wasnt making money out of them. With a camgirl poledancing, I suppose she is using her music to dance to, as background music, she may get away with it.

After hearing this, I think in our studio, we wont have music playing unless its our own.

ArsewithClass · 05-12-2011, 01:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DigitalTheory

I always wondered that when i see these trailers using well known songs also. Wasnt there a case awhile back with inthevip getting sued for the songs spinning while they was filming.

Ive worried about that before!

I have a couple of scenes with adult movies playing in the background!

Markul · 05-12-2011, 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Failed

So I buy the cd, download the mp3, whatever, and I can't play it in the background if I'm on the phone, webcam, whatever? Fuck that shit

If you make money off people while they can hear the music, you are asking for trouble.

At least knowing the music industry with their overzealous lawyers

ArsewithClass · 05-12-2011, 01:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Failed

So I buy the cd, download the mp3, whatever, and I can't play it in the background if I'm on the phone, webcam, whatever? Fuck that shit

http://www.prsformusic.com/Pages/default.aspx

here is the UK Performing Rights Society page, it can be big bucks for shops & public areas to play music without licences....

TurboAngel · 05-12-2011, 05:36 AM

Good question.

TheDA · 05-12-2011, 05:40 AM

There's a number of different licences and organisations in the UK that covers this. You need to make sure you get the right one.

With all the 'fans' you have, you need to get it right, in case someone grasses you in to the Dorset police.

I am covered for stuff I do through http://www.theiac.org.uk/, but I don't think they cover any commercial use.

pornguy · 05-12-2011, 06:31 AM

Best thing to do is work out a license deal.

Paul Markham · 05-12-2011, 06:35 AM

Yes you can be sued, by a company with a lot of money to spend on lawyers. Win or lose, you lose.

ArsewithClass · 05-12-2011, 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDA

There's a number of different licences and organisations in the UK that covers this. You need to make sure you get the right one.

With all the 'fans' you have, you need to get it right, in case someone grasses you in to the Dorset police.

I am covered for stuff I do through http://www.theiac.org.uk/, but I don't think they cover any commercial use.

Oh, thanks for concern DA, but already we have looked into the licencing due to having the studio. It was more concern for those with livecam sites & run from whitelabels, with models from home, playing music in the background, dancing etc...

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Yes you can be sued, by a company with a lot of money to spend on lawyers. Win or lose, you lose.

I would have thought so too.. As said, Im ok, im going to sort all this stuff out or not have music running. But like said above, what about camsite owners that show models that work from home & have none telling them to get licences.

DamianJ · 05-15-2011, 01:32 AM

Link us to the white label cam site!

I bet it's AWESOME and not at all just made up in your head.

Gary, love, don't sweat it. In order to get done you have to have an audience you are broadcasting to.

So no worries there.

Why do you waste everyone's time here lying about your cam studio and white label cam service?

Sigh.

PS DA was mocking you, and you're so FUCKING stupid you didn't even realise. /me shakes his head

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ArsewithClass So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: UK Posts: 7,957	Asked the question on another thread.. but Hi all, I asked this on another thread, but it never was answered, maybe no one knows, maybe it was missed in all the Frisky & choker madhouse stuff Im wondering if camsite owners needs a licence for music played on the website or if the owner can be fined & sued for the models playing music without a licence? I know that a public premises & anywhere using the music for part of the act or background needs a licence to play dvd, cd, or radio. If there is no licence they can be fined. How does it work for the camsite owner if they have a model playing music from home or a studio, possibly without a licence. Would the site owner also find themselves in a situation, considering huge companies such as virgin or interscope, have enough money to sue?

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05-15-2011, 01:32 AM	#17
DamianJ Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: A magical land Posts: 15,808	Link us to the white label cam site! I bet it's AWESOME and not at all just made up in your head. Gary, love, don't sweat it. In order to get done you have to have an audience you are broadcasting to. So no worries there. Why do you waste everyone's time here lying about your cam studio and white label cam service? Sigh. PS DA was mocking you, and you're so FUCKING stupid you didn't even realise. /me shakes his head