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JFK · 05-18-2011, 02:50 PM

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eurabia · 05-18-2011, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by neilmc

[root@localhost ~]# uptime
14:49:50 up 693 days, 17:31, 3 users, load average: 0.50, 0.50, 0.65
[root@localhost ~]#

That's some pretty good uptime.

Please be constructive. What host?

eurabia · 05-18-2011, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by dubsix

Keep in mind *MOST* of these "hosts" around here do not own the facility, do not own the hardware, and are either coloing 1-2 racks in someone else's facility or are reselling servers from someone else. Of course they can't meet those type of requirements.

Lots of fake it until you make it going on around here

Sure, so who's really making it? Name names

raymor · 05-18-2011, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by eurabia

Quality post. Yea, I do want HA but I also don't want it to cost $3000/month. I know there are setups that if hardware on 1 server fails, then another one starts serving the site within 1-2 mins. That'd be cool. Any suggestions for that? My budget is $100-$1000/month.

Also, I'm mostly concerned about hardware failures. Network uptime are extremely strong almost everywhere because datacenters got that shit on lock. As far as software, I also understand that a good admin can get that shit onlock too. The hardware failures are the fucking pain in the ass. Hosts brag that "we guarantee 1 hour hardware replacements, isnt that awesome". No FUCK YOU, that's fucking horrible, that means my site will be down for up to 1 hour!

On the "1 hour hardware replacements", if a drive fails it may take several more hours to
copy the data or restore from back up, so you'll want at least RAID 1,5, or 10 (not RAID 0).

Also if you're having a LOT of hardware problems, be aware that with SOME web hosts,
every problem is reported as a "hardware problem".

Basically, there are two ways to go with this. Live local fail over and remote backup fail over. Each has advantages and disadvantages. It sounds like you may want both - local for
nearly instant fail over and remote for when someone says "oops".

local failover
protects ONLY from actual hardware failure - not mistakes, not hackers, not DC issues, etc.
1-5 minute switchover
cost roughly double the normal single server cost + $750 set up and extra hardware

remote backup failover
protects from everything - such as the Planet fire which took out 9,000 servers, the FBI raids where they've confiscated entire data centers due to one customer, etc., mistakes, hackers, etc.
cost is $24 / month
switch over roughly 10-20 minutes

TurboAngel · 05-19-2011, 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by eurabia

Nothing against them, only hear good things about them and I did take a look at them but the whole "request a quote" thing really turns me off; plus there's no Cpanel. Even though I want fully managed, I also want Cpanel.

Aww come on and talk to them it's not a bad thing IMO.

eurabia · 05-20-2011, 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by raymor

On the "1 hour hardware replacements", if a drive fails it may take several more hours to
copy the data or restore from back up, so you'll want at least RAID 1,5, or 10 (not RAID 0).

Also if you're having a LOT of hardware problems, be aware that with SOME web hosts,
every problem is reported as a "hardware problem".

Basically, there are two ways to go with this. Live local fail over and remote backup fail over. Each has advantages and disadvantages. It sounds like you may want both - local for
nearly instant fail over and remote for when someone says "oops".

local failover
protects ONLY from actual hardware failure - not mistakes, not hackers, not DC issues, etc.
1-5 minute switchover
cost roughly double the normal single server cost + $750 set up and extra hardware

remote backup failover
protects from everything - such as the Planet fire which took out 9,000 servers, the FBI raids where they've confiscated entire data centers due to one customer, etc., mistakes, hackers, etc.
cost is $24 / month
switch over roughly 10-20 minutes

dude it's fucking obvious you know what you're talking about. that's settled. now where can I actually get some of that good shit? I want to be with hosts that talk real talk like you. Sick of bullshit. Like I said, name names!

rowan · 05-20-2011, 02:05 AM

I don't want to seem like a smartass but I have to say that there's at least 3 hosts recommended in this thread that have had significant (ie, multiple hour) outages. I'm not saying that to diss them, which is why I am not mentioning their names, more to point out that even a host with excellent average uptime is probably more likely to have a rare extended outage rather than a bunch of little 30 second blips over the months... both of those scenarios average out to the same, but the former has a much greater impact on clients.

BTW, posting the uptime value of a server really only demonstrates that they've never lost power or crashed. A network outage could still result in the box unreachable for hours.

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dubsix · 05-20-2011, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by rowan

I don't want to seem like a smartass but I have to say that there's at least 3 hosts recommended in this thread that have had significant (ie, multiple hour) outages. I'm not saying that to diss them, which is why I am not mentioning their names, more to point out that even a host with excellent average uptime is probably more likely to have a rare extended outage rather than a bunch of little 30 second blips over the months... both of those scenarios average out to the same, but the former has a much greater impact on clients.

BTW, posting the uptime value of a server really only demonstrates that they've never lost power or crashed. A network outage could still result in the box unreachable for hours.

It also demonstrates that they *HAVE NOT* applied critical kernel updates that have patched *MASSIVE* security holes. If your server is "managed" and has that level of uptime, it speaks alot to how little it actually is managed.

eurabia · 05-21-2011, 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by rowan

I don't want to seem like a smartass but I have to say that there's at least 3 hosts recommended in this thread that have had significant (ie, multiple hour) outages.

I KNOW. Name GOOD ONES, please.

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