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Old 06-07-2011, 03:55 PM   #1
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This is why The U.S needs Israel.

1 .We take all the heat in the middle east we fight all the wars and terrorists attack here.
If Islam would rule here, The U.S would have more difficulties handling the middle east.

2. Following Hezbollah's recent takeover of Lebanon and the political turmoil in Egypt, Jordan, and the Persian Gulf, Israel is the only Middle Eastern country that is certain to remain stable and unequivocally pro-American.

3. In times of danger, especially, Israel has responded to America's needs. Acceding to Richard M. Nixon's request to intervene to save Jordan from Syrian invasion in 1970, Israel mobilized its army, and in 1991, in spite of missile attacks from Iraq, Israel honored George H.W. Bush's request not to retaliate.

4. Its prominence on the eastern Mediterranean littoral, at the nexus of North Africa and Southwest Asia, has enabled the United States to minimize its military deployments in the area. In the Persian Gulf, by contrast, the absence of a dependable and sturdy ally like Israel has impelled the United States to commit hundreds of thousands of troops and trillions of dollars.

5. The strategic synergy between the United States and Israel melds into tactical realities. U.S. troops train with their Israel Defense Forces (IDF) counterparts in aerial combat and special operations. U.S. Navy ships routinely dock in Haifa, Air Force planes refuel at Israeli bases, and the Marines will soon use an Israeli laser to pinpoint targets.

6. As Assistant Secretary of State Andrew Shapiro put it, "Israel is a vital ally and a cornerstone of our regional security commitments," and, accordingly, the two countries have developed the world's most advanced anti-ballistic missiles. Together with the X-band radar station in the Negev -- manned by the first American troops deployed permanently on Israeli soil -- these systems can protect friendly nations from Iranian rockets.

7. in the intelligence field, in particular, the cooperation between Israel and the United States is vast. According to Maj. Gen. George J. Keegan Jr., former head of U.S. Air Force intelligence, America's military defense capability "owes more to the Israeli intelligence input than it does to any single source of intelligence," the worth of which input, he estimated, exceeds "five CIAs." Israeli and American intelligence agencies continuously exchange information, analyses, and operational experience in counterterrorism and counterproliferation. The U.S. Department of Homeland Security and its Israeli counterpart also share technical know-how in defending ports and terminals from terrorist attacks, countering unconventional weapons and cyberthreats, and combating the drug trade. On the battlefield, Israeli armament protects Bradley and Stryker units from rocket-propelled grenades, while Israeli-made drones and reconnaissance devices surveil hostile territory. U.S. fighter aircraft and helicopters incorporate Israeli concepts and components, as do modern-class U.S. warships. The IDF has furnished U.S. forces with its expertise in the detection and neutralization of improvised explosive devices (IEDs), the largest cause of American casualties.

Israel not only enhances America's defenses -- it also saves American lives. A kibbutz-based company in the Galilee has provided armor for more than 20,000 U.S. military vehicles. "Two days ago, my patrol was ambushed by insurgents using 7.62mm PKM Machineguns," David C. Cox, a platoon sergeant in Iraq, wrote the manufacturers. "None of the rounds penetrated the armor of the vehicle, including one that would have impacted with my head." Marine gunner Joshua Smith, whose Israeli-armored vehicle tripped an IED near Marja, Afghanistan, described how his unit "walked away smiling, laughing, and lived to fight another day." Military medical experts from both countries also meet annually to discuss advances in combat care. One such breakthrough was a coagulating bandage, the brainchild of a Jerusalem start-up company, a million of which have been supplied to U.S. forces (and even applied by a Tucson SWAT team medic to stanch the life-threatening head wound of Rep. Gabrielle Giffords).

In return for its aid to Israel, the United States receives not only an armed but an innovative ally, enhancing America's military edge. That contribution is real and requires no lobbyists to fabricate it. While organizations such as the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) press Israel's case in government and in popular forums, they represent American citizens who view the alliance with Israel as a national American interest. By contrast, the lobbyists for the Arab states and their domestic oil industries represent foreign interests. The hundreds of millions of dollars they have spent on lobbying and public relations campaigns and donations to influential universities such as Harvard and Georgetown have vastly exceeded the budgets of Israel's advocates in Washington.

8.Israel also assists the American people by stimulating trade, spurring technological innovation, and creating jobs. Despite a population of just 7.7 million people, Israel is America's 20th-largest customer in the world, surpassing Russia and Spain. Warren Buffett's first foreign investment was a $4 billion stake in Iscar, an Israeli tool manufacturer. "I believe in the Israeli market and the Israeli economy," Buffett explained. Between 2000 and 2009, direct U.S. investment in Israel totaled $77.2 billion, while Israelis invested $51.4 billion in the United States. More than 25 years ago, America's very first free trade agreement was signed -- with Israel.

Google, Microsoft, IBM, Intel, AOL, and Motorola are just some of the high-tech companies with major research and development operations in Israel. In addition to providing software and hardware for most American computers and mobile phones, Israel also pioneered the USB flash drive, the ingestible microcamera, advances in drip irrigation, and the portable MRI. Through Better Place, the world's first comprehensive electric-car system, Israel is poised to help Obama achieve his goal of placing 1 million electric vehicles on America's roads by 2015. "It's no exaggeration to say that the kind of innovation going on in Israel is critical to the future of the technology business," observed Microsoft Chairman Bill Gates on a 2005 visit to Israel. After the United States and China, Israel is the most represented country on the Nasdaq stock exchange.

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I have a relative who frequently has an FBI agent friend at gatherings at her house and she said if Americans knew how much information Israel has provided that have stopped major terrorist attacks in this country, anti-Semites might change their view of Israel.
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Nice piece of information and a lot of work for you that only brings up the question..."you're posting this in GFY because.....? Why?"
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Nice piece of information and a lot of work for you that only brings up the question..."you're posting this in GFY because.....? Why?"
I dunno but a thread about farts got over 50 posts a few months ago so...
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I have a relative who frequently has an FBI agent friend at gatherings at her house and she said if Americans knew how much information Israel has provided that have stopped major terrorist attacks in this country, anti-Semites might change their view of Israel.
Yes because anyone who criticizes Israel is an anti-Semite.

Do you ever ask yourself why people hate the United States?

This article is hilarious and every point in it is foolish. Free trade agreement? Check how much more Israel gets out of the 'free trade' agreement than the United States does. The 'free trade' agreement with Israel is basically an aid program to Israel that funnels money every year to Israel and away from the United States. This is on top of the billions of aid that the United States gives to Israel, second only to Iraq.

Your first point that if Islam ruled here the US would have more difficulties in the Middle East is another silly point. Why would Islam rule here? How many Muslims are in positions of power in the United States? How many Israeli supporters are in positions of power? How many Jewish people are in positions of power? Why is there no worries about Jewish people 'ruling' the United States even though the religions are similar? The reason that the US is even fighting any wars at all is for Israel, not to protect itself against Islam. Not only are Muslims not even close to taking over the US, their population is grossly under-represented in the US as a percentage of the population versus the population of the entire world.

The reason other countries aren't pro-American isn't because they're born that way. It is because the US gives them reasons to be anti-American. Take Iran for example where the CIA funded and helped a dictator into power. Take Afghanistan where the CIA funded and trained terrorists that took over. Take Palestine where the US supplied missiles to Israel and during the same time period over 1,000 CHILDREN were killed by Israel with that type of missile. The hate doesn't come from anywhere, it comes from long standing policies that give security to Israel at the cost of oppressing other Middle Eastern countries. Now with that in mind, knowing that the US in an official sense supported the murder of thousands of innocent people, tell me why they SHOULDN'T hate the US for what they do. The US kills more innocent people in the Middle East than terrorists have ever killed Americans, and how much do Americans hate terrorists? Just imagine the hate you would have for yourselves if the situation were reversed.

In times of danger Israel has attacked and killed Americans, like on the USS Liberty where 34 Americans were killed and 170 wounded after multiple warnings to the Israelis that they were attacking a US ship.

Point 4 is ridiculous, why should the United States have any military presence in the area at all? The only reason that trillions of dollars are spent in the region is to protect Israel.

You pretend like Israeli made products are only in use by one side. I'm sure Bin Laden was using an Israeli made processor in one of his computers when he got caught. That doesn't mean anything other than the US bought things from Israel that they could have bought from Americans thus further diminishing the US's capacity as a manufacturer and shipping jobs from the US to Israel.

In the intelligence field it is well known that Israel spies on the US more than any other country and the US spies back.

Israel is one of the only countries in the world to have illegal nuclear weapons. While Israel takes a hypocritical stance on Iranian nuclear power Israel refuses to sign the NPT and refuses any and all weapons inspectors in Israel. Iran allows weapons inspectors and has signed the NPT. Prominent Israeli military leaders have even said in the past that if Israel is in danger of falling then they would destroy the whole world. Does the United States really need an ally that holds all the American people's lives hostage while it continues to break international law after international law? How long will it be before Israel breaks one too many international laws and the world tries to stop it and Israel nukes the entire world? It may seem silly and barbaric but that's exactly what Israelis have promised would happen.

Are you okay with your children, wives, husbands, moms and dads all dying because Israel wants to continue to murder children and use illegal chemical weapons on civilian populations?

Israel is the real terrorist state out there, and without Israel the United States would be more respected, richer, more ethical and a stronger military presence than with Israel.
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Israel is the real terrorist state out there, and without Israel the United States would be more respected, richer, more ethical and a stronger military presence than with Israel.
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Yes because anyone who criticizes Israel is an anti-Semite.

Do you ever ask yourself why people hate the United States?

This article is hilarious and every point in it is foolish. Free trade agreement? Check how much more Israel gets out of the 'free trade' agreement than the United States does. The 'free trade' agreement with Israel is basically an aid program to Israel that funnels money every year to Israel and away from the United States. This is on top of the billions of aid that the United States gives to Israel, second only to Iraq.

Your first point that if Islam ruled here the US would have more difficulties in the Middle East is another silly point. Why would Islam rule here? How many Muslims are in positions of power in the United States? How many Israeli supporters are in positions of power? How many Jewish people are in positions of power? Why is there no worries about Jewish people 'ruling' the United States even though the religions are similar? The reason that the US is even fighting any wars at all is for Israel, not to protect itself against Islam. Not only are Muslims not even close to taking over the US, their population is grossly under-represented in the US as a percentage of the population versus the population of the entire world.

The reason other countries aren't pro-American isn't because they're born that way. It is because the US gives them reasons to be anti-American. Take Iran for example where the CIA funded and helped a dictator into power. Take Afghanistan where the CIA funded and trained terrorists that took over. Take Palestine where the US supplied missiles to Israel and during the same time period over 1,000 CHILDREN were killed by Israel with that type of missile. The hate doesn't come from anywhere, it comes from long standing policies that give security to Israel at the cost of oppressing other Middle Eastern countries. Now with that in mind, knowing that the US in an official sense supported the murder of thousands of innocent people, tell me why they SHOULDN'T hate the US for what they do. The US kills more innocent people in the Middle East than terrorists have ever killed Americans, and how much do Americans hate terrorists? Just imagine the hate you would have for yourselves if the situation were reversed.

In times of danger Israel has attacked and killed Americans, like on the USS Liberty where 34 Americans were killed and 170 wounded after multiple warnings to the Israelis that they were attacking a US ship.

Point 4 is ridiculous, why should the United States have any military presence in the area at all? The only reason that trillions of dollars are spent in the region is to protect Israel.

You pretend like Israeli made products are only in use by one side. I'm sure Bin Laden was using an Israeli made processor in one of his computers when he got caught. That doesn't mean anything other than the US bought things from Israel that they could have bought from Americans thus further diminishing the US's capacity as a manufacturer and shipping jobs from the US to Israel.

In the intelligence field it is well known that Israel spies on the US more than any other country and the US spies back.

Israel is one of the only countries in the world to have illegal nuclear weapons. While Israel takes a hypocritical stance on Iranian nuclear power Israel refuses to sign the NPT and refuses any and all weapons inspectors in Israel. Iran allows weapons inspectors and has signed the NPT. Prominent Israeli military leaders have even said in the past that if Israel is in danger of falling then they would destroy the whole world. Does the United States really need an ally that holds all the American people's lives hostage while it continues to break international law after international law? How long will it be before Israel breaks one too many international laws and the world tries to stop it and Israel nukes the entire world? It may seem silly and barbaric but that's exactly what Israelis have promised would happen.

Are you okay with your children, wives, husbands, moms and dads all dying because Israel wants to continue to murder children and use illegal chemical weapons on civilian populations?

Israel is the real terrorist state out there, and without Israel the United States would be more respected, richer, more ethical and a stronger military presence than with Israel.
Do you really think the U.S is so dumb, that it would help Israel for no reason?
Do you really thing that if ud stop aiding Israel , The war on terror would stop?
I think your quite dumb not me.
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mizmiz is a zionist ... all that user's posts are blindly supporting ISRAEL state .. no matter what ...

Just like the Nazis in WW2 ...
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Your so gay, I think ur jewish or Israeli if Im not mistaken.
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When will you confess to Israels true intentions: Build a 50 square mile jail & call it "palestine"
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Hopefully it will be close to Kenya.
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Why do you people bring this Israel shit up every week?
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Israeli's have been the real terrorists ever since they bombed the King David Hotel. Amazingly the people that were behind the bombing ended up running the government and on guy (Begin) actually won the nobel prize. lol
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Do you really think the U.S is so dumb, that it would help Israel for no reason?
Do you really thing that if ud stop aiding Israel , The war on terror would stop?
I think your quite dumb not me.
I think you don't know the basics of writing in the English language and as such should refrain from calling others dumb in English.

If the US stopped aiding Israel it would give the 'terrorists' no reason to hate the US. Do you really think that if people have no reason to hate the US that they would hate them anyway? The reason that the US aids Israel is because AIPAC controls congress so well that they have no choice. Didn't you want Netanyahu get more standing ovations than even Obama ever has? 50+ standing ovations during Netanyahu's speech to congress is pretty crazy.
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If the US stopped aiding Israel it would give the 'terrorists' no reason to hate the US.
yeah. they would look past our support of dictators, occupations of iraq & afghanistan, abuse of prisoners in secret CIA jails, drone attacks that killed innocents, asylum for blackwater contractors that killed innocents, use of white phosphorus on civilians...

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yeah. they would look past our support of dictators, occupations of iraq & afghanistan, abuse of prisoners in secret CIA jails, drone attacks that killed innocents, asylum for blackwater contractors that killed innocents, use of white phosphorus on civilians...

So then the Japanese are planning an attack? Just because at one time the US nuked Japan it doesn't mean Japan needs to be constantly oppressed to keep them from attacking.

The same goes for the Middle East, just because now they are our enemies it doesn't mean in the future they couldn't be our allies.
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i think america has become Israels little bitch..they say jump, you say how high...
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The same goes for the Middle East, just because now they are our enemies it doesn't mean in the future they couldn't be our allies.
that would be ideal. But the israeli lobby in conjunction with the military industrial complex will never ever allow for any peace. Expanding settlements & selling guns is how they get rich.
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that would be ideal. But the israeli lobby in conjunction with the military industrial complex will never ever allow for any peace. Expanding settlements & selling guns is how they get rich.
So you're saying that if the US stopped aiding Israel there would still be no peace there because the US would be aiding Israel?

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So you're saying that if the US stopped aiding Israel there would still be no peace there because the US would be aiding Israel?

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no. even if the seas parted & the US stopped aid to israel, the al queda types will find other reasons to attack the USA. al queda has never had the palestinians as a high priority, more like a talking point.

But US aid to israel will never end. because AIPAC & lockheed make money off the conflict. Defending against terror is a multibillion dollar industry, one that will never settle for peace.
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no. even if the seas parted & the US stopped aid to israel, the al queda types will find other reasons to attack the USA. al queda has never had the palestinians as a high priority, more like a talking point.

But US aid to israel will never end. because AIPAC & lockheed make money off the conflict. Defending against terror is a multibillion dollar industry, one that will never settle for peace.
Yes the same evil Al CIA DA that we're arming in Libya.
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no. even if the seas parted & the US stopped aid to israel, the al queda types will find other reasons to attack the USA. al queda has never had the palestinians as a high priority, more like a talking point.

But US aid to israel will never end. because AIPAC & lockheed make money off the conflict. Defending against terror is a multibillion dollar industry, one that will never settle for peace.
So you think that al Qaeda people are just born with the desire to die fighting in a war with the United States? You think that's what they want? That they are born evil?

Palestinians may not be a big point for al Qaeda but invading Afghanistan to protect Israel is a big point.
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I think you don't know the basics of writing in the English language and as such should refrain from calling others dumb in English.

If the US stopped aiding Israel it would give the 'terrorists' no reason to hate the US. Do you really think that if people have no reason to hate the US that they would hate them anyway? The reason that the US aids Israel is because AIPAC controls congress so well that they have no choice. Didn't you want Netanyahu get more standing ovations than even Obama ever has? 50+ standing ovations during Netanyahu's speech to congress is pretty crazy.
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Old 06-08-2011, 01:44 AM   #32
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So you think that al Qaeda people are just born with the desire to die fighting in a war with the United States? You think that's what they want? That they are born evil?

Palestinians may not be a big point for al Qaeda but invading Afghanistan to protect Israel is a big point.
You are one piece of fucking shit. invading Afghanistan wasnt to protect Israel it was because bin laden 9/11 attack killed over 3000 Americans. How stupid fuck are you?
I would knock the fuck out of you seriously .
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Bottom line. Middle East is not for America to rule or bother with.
It's not our business. We get nothing out of it except over priced oil. Other than the over priced oil its dirt. Nothing to gain, no real resources that we could not make our selves.

Middle East has always been the way it is today, nothing will ever change that.
The destruction of Israel would have no barring on the United States whats so ever.

Though many in power believe Israel is of some importance it has no importance other than being historical to religions of the world which sadly and oddly enough make for very stupid decisions in US foreign policy regarding Israel.

I always thought maybe Israel should have just been given a small part of Texas... No one would give a shit and no one would be trying to blow up Israel.

So maybe... Israel should just take my advice and buy alot of land in Texas and call it New Jerusalem. It certainly would make the people of New Israel rest much easier and far less to worry about Terrorist wise.
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So you think that al Qaeda people are just born with the desire to die fighting in a war with the United States?
According to the US government, yes. "They hate us for our freedom."

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You are one piece of fucking shit. invading Afghanistan wasnt to protect Israel it was because bin laden 9/11 attack killed over 3000 Americans. How stupid fuck are you?
I would knock the fuck out of you seriously .
Bin Laden was killed in Pakistan, Afghanistan had nothing to do with that. It would be like the KKK attacking Mexico and the Mexican army using that as a reason to invade the US.

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According to the US government, yes. "They hate us for our freedom."

Exactly and you can even hear Bin Laden talk about freedom in his little rants and how he is all for it.

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Bin Laden was killed in Pakistan, Afghanistan had nothing to do with that. It would be like the KKK attacking Mexico and the Mexican army using that as a reason to invade the US.
So just because he was in Pakistan at the time he was killed, Afghanistan didnt have nothing to do with 9/11 , maybe he'd escape to England, and then it was England's fault and the U.S should bomb them too.
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If we never bothered being Israel's buddy and sticking our nose in the middle east the terrorists wouldn't even be bothering us in the first place.
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So just because he was in Pakistan at the time he was killed, Afghanistan didnt have nothing to do with 9/11 , maybe he'd escape to England, and then it was England's fault and the U.S should bomb them too.
Ok you tell me then, what did Afghanistan have to do with 9/11 that warranted the invasion of Afghanistan other than the fact that it borders Israel's most dangerous enemy, Israel.

In fact two wars started in two separate countries and together they straddle Iran. Anyone with half a brain can see that the invasion of Iraq and the invasion of Afghanistan was done after given the order from Israel.

To Israel American lives are worthless so they don't mind sending the US in to kill and be killed as long as Israel itself doesn't have to lose any citizens.

Tell me, how many soldiers did Israel lose in Afghanistan? How about Israeli soldiers killed while fighting in Iraq? 0.

Compare that to thousands of American lives and you can see how Israel uses American lives as pawns ruining thousands of American families just so Israel can keep murdering little babies.
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Ok you tell me then, what did Afghanistan have to do with 9/11 that warranted the invasion of Afghanistan other than the fact that it borders Israel's most dangerous enemy, Israel.


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Too mad to come up with a real response? Or just too stupid?
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Too mad to come up with a real response? Or just too stupid?
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Don't know why you're showing me a map, does Afghanistan not border Iran? What about Iraq?
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One unmentioned player in the Israel discussion is the role of religious extremism.

Religion became powerful as a force because it helped humans cope with inexplicable phenomena in the natural world. Science has answered the vast majority of these questions, rendering religion a relic of a less evolved people.

& thats what you see in the far east today. Cultures dominated by religious fundamentalism are stuck in social norms of centuries past. Muslims feel the need to cover up women, & stone them in the name of "honor." Jews covered in black feel the need to drive palestinians into the jordan river, because somehow the bible says its jewish land. & 911 happened because a wealthy wahhabi took offense to US boots on sacred saudi land during the 1990 gulf war.

Until world leaders understand the true enemy of humankind is religious fundamentalism, we will always be fighting straw men.

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The irony, it's YOU'RE. When calling someone dumb make you've mastered the english language.

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One unmentioned player in the Israel discussion is the role of religious extremism.

Religion became powerful as a force because it helped humans cope with inexplicable phenomena in the natural world. Science has answered the vast majority of these questions, rendering religion a relic of a less evolved people.

& thats what you see in the far east today. Cultures dominated by religious fundamentalism are stuck in social norms of centuries past. Muslims feel the need to cover up women, & stone them in the name of "honor." Jews covered in black feel the need to drive palestinians into the jordan river, because somehow the bible says its jewish land. & 911 happened because a wealthy wahhabi took offense to US boots on sacred saudi land during the 1990 gulf war.

Until world leaders understand the true enemy of humankind is religious fundamentalism, we will always be fighting straw men.
Those israeli's arrested on 911 had nothing to do with it. /end sarcasm
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You certainly know how to get a debate going AJC. I'll be keep out of this one for sure, but I've recently become aware that this one is far more complex than most think.
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America does not need Israel...period...but Israel does need America.
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