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Glad to see this thread Chris. I never got in on the other threads but read a couple cringing at the amount of drama. Good luck with every!

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Not sure if weve met but I like you.....

I am pretty happy in cali.. i think if i ever move it would be to south beach or spain....

Lessons learned man - i learned it the hard way.....

I tend to do everything the hard way, but I think you can see that....

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Miss you shey. I have some good news for you..hit me on icq or skype sometime to catch up...

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Skip the mortgage (if you can) and pay cash, other than that I stand by what I said.

Fuck the banks. 120K is fuck you money.

If you are making that kind of money you should realize the ying and yang rule is in affect. What is that?

In life nature sees to it that noone gets it all. If you are a major money earner maybe you have a nagging wife. Maybe you end up like JFK junior. Maube you have health issues. By being frugal with your money you are not spitting in yings face. Therefore yang wont show up someday to teach you a lesson.

Just a theory.

Vjo

You are not alone. I have done everything the hard way twice.

I have a hard time saving money. I fig if I got a little left over there will always be more. But that is the kind of thinking that creates problems. Money is God. Without it you can be in hell.

Remember after 50, maybe about 15 years for many of you, you are not gonna want to go find a new job or go to work at a real 9-5 somewhere. You will be in HELL if that happens.

Vjo

I am easy to like. Because I am a loner and have no other people around at least no wife.

Happy is the man (only 3% of males never marry) who can live without all their bs. lol

Then again every form of refuge has it's price

You get used to being alone and like it that way. But for a man to get old on his own is very tough. Women are stronger over 50. Or at least better at doing the never ending housework. Housework is where I think I made the wrong choice. Eliminate the housework I am good to go. Let's party.

So I might leave the 3% someday.

Coup

Welcome to the Communist Party, Comrade.

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married 13 years..... most of it good....

I admire your independence.... I think only now I could do that.

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And yes I like girls. lol I can see the wheels turning out there.

How do you make it to 50 without getting married? Just like you many of you are doing right now. Start at 35 in this biz as an affil. Blink and you are 50. 15 years sitting on your ass in this stupid (altho sometimes giving) business.

Money is my mistress.

there is nothing a man should aspire to be more than secure as their own boss

As soon as I am secure, Ill move on to the next level and GET THE FUCK out of here and this stupid chat board. hehe j/k

Taking forever!

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Dont start joking now...... you see where that got me.

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I never had any issue with you until you sold out to ICM Registry. OK people are allowed mistakes but being a traitor is a BIG mistake, if you ever read "The Divine Comedy" you know that the innermost circle of hell is reserved for traitors and betrayers, and justly so. You aided and abetted someone who not only wants to make big bucks he wants to destroy this industry, as if we need the help....that's where the problem is, people like you are all too wiling to help if it makes them a buck. I still have no real ill will for you other than to say you reap what you sow.

You should serve as an example to others in the biz.....

Ya Im back.....

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It's No wonder I took up drugs and alcohol, it's the only way I could dumb myself down enough to cope with the morons in this biz.

Vjo

I took you for a single guy for some reason although like I say only 3%.

I was studying engineering way too long. Graduated at 31. Then delivered a few pizzas, smoked a lot of doob lol with guys 10 years younger than me (yes I was the oldest guy at the pizza place too) and today I still hang with guys 10-15 years younger than me.

Really I never grew up. That is why I am so much fun while other guys my age are total lamers. lol

I wasted my good years studying:
Time and Motion study.
Mechanical Drafting (now obsolete)
and other major boring stuff.

But had a great time with the ladies as college rules for meeting the ladies.

Anyhow congrats. All my friends are now married. So I am the odd guy who goes over and visits them and gets a little female food and tlc once in a while.

Vjo

One last thing then i got to stfu. As far as Im concerened you dont work for the xxx outfit so frankly peoples anger should be directed somewhere else. Your a good guy. I can tell. A lot like me when I was posting in the 90s. A little shoot from the hip.

Yes people including me are dead set against xxx and so anyone who comes along is going to catch major flack.

Yeah maybe you didnt handle it perfect but chat boards can be tricky. There are no emotions and sometime humor or sarcasm is missed.

As someone said, prob wont be anyone on this board promoting .xxx as they will catch major hell.

In fact there may be a couple guys who are saying, why is Vjo being nice and chatting to him. Well cause.. read above. he made a mistake, he no longer works for them. Ya dont have to like him but lets allow him do his thing.

Ya know everyone here has always been so nice. I know I can be gabby but they let me do my thing and I let them do their thing. In fact giving you a little shit (really advice) in my first post is not my style. So i felt I owed ya a little chat and since I am in the mood to chat... my sponsors are doing well this month.

And you need NO advice from me. Keep making 200K or even 1/2 that and you got my respect. They dont give money like that away to ANYONE without them earning it.

Money talks and my BS walks.

Grapesoda

no thanks, I drive in the mountains all the time... never seen a beemer doing anything impressive except race around in inappropriate areas of town, like on the freeway, side streets and mulholland etc... who you gotta watch out for are the volvo station wagons... man those guys are driving maniacs

Grapesoda

hard to save 60k a year off 200k... the gov really gets all over that one

Grapesoda

get maid servics and stay in the 3%.. that's what I'm doing

Grapesoda

Mike you are a traitor the entire adult biz. all you do is look for the dirt or misrepresent stuff and blow it way out there... you pushed AHF agendas by attacking AIM. how is that helping anything other than traffic for YOU?

Vjo

lol Thanks man. That actually sounds like a good idea.

Agent 488

who gives fuck?

forward ..

Vjo

You got to move to the midwest and live modestly. I fig 200K is 120K after taxes. You can easily live fine off 60K espec if you have housing already taken care of. If you moved then it is a little tight as you will need to rent or maybe buy but you then save 1/2 or 60K a year. Also if you already have a decent car, that helps.

Even if you give 3000/month to housing and all overhead ($1500 mortgage if needed, $500 car payment if needed, 1000 covers insurance, prop tax, all of the rest.

You then have $500 a week. Ok $100 a week for food covers ya. You now have $400 a week to play with as discretionary income.

It can be done. Like I say already being here and having housing certainly makes things workout better. Then you really have decent money left on 60K/year.

L-Pink

That's what I do, twice weekly for 1/2 day (my dog sheds like a buffalo) The added benefit to a perfect house is how women react to fresh flowers, sheets, laundry and spotless kitchen. That alone is worth the price of a regular housekeeper.

datatank

With all due respect and the state of things its going to be a long time before you see 200k again. IMO..

Grapesoda

I gotta keep up with the dishes, the laundry, emergencies etc but everything else is maid service. twice a month right now

Grapesoda

unfortunately my work is area specific and has been since '82

Vjo

Man that is nice. Yeah very good points all round. I will aim for that. Housework really crimps one's style.

Grapesoda

yeah, gotta have a spotless place when you bring broads by for a bit of entertainment

Vjo

It is the vacuuming, dusting and bathroom that is the worst. Cooking is no prob.

Without maid service life is really kind of hard if you want things looking half way decent all the time. With it would be much better. When ya get around 50 you dont want to be dusting all the time. I even sold a few tables and all my knick knack stuff so there is less to dust.

When you live alone nothing makes less sense than dusting the same table over and over.

Grapesoda

yup... maid is the way to go... have a crew come in every 2 weeks... been using them for 7-8 years or so. I just take off and let them have the place... I have 5 bedrooms and 4.5 baths as well as dining room, kitchen, living room, entrance, bar etc... so it takes a 1/2 day for them.. the 1/2 day, twice a week sounds great for your situation. make life so much better

hate dust and I have a damn black car

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Vjo!! Hey-OOOOOO!

Vjo, you are THE man - living alone in Minisoda, all cold and blustery, making your millions, too good for the midwest riff-raff who just wants to marry you and bleed you dry. "Take of me Vjo!!!" "No way honey, I'm a single MAN." LOVE IT!!!!!!

(Vjo is a very, very good man people, this is why I bust his chops.)

I'm not far behind you (or BM Bradley for that matter). Early forties so I'm right behind you. LOL Wait, that sounded gay....ANYway: I live alone, too, married to my little 'World" but have a plan: get rich, hide the money, marry a nice girl. LOL We'll see....

Maid service: now this is an excellent idea! I tried a spanish maid a few months ago (found her on Craig's List, it was an agency) but when she came by she talked on the phone the entire time and only cleaned what was visible (no moving of chairs, tables etc to vacuum). So I was turned off by the whole "affair". Maybe I should've hired one of those sexy Spanish maids you see on porn sites; clean my house then clean my cock. LOL

But now, after months of rising dust, I think it's time to find someone to clean my shit. LOL We guys can be such slobs, even the tidiest amongst us.

Hope all is well Vjo! Fuck man, I'd move out to near you and follow your 200k/120k/60k plan if I didn't have to stay in the NYC/NJ area to take care of my mom and sister.

Oh - and 200k in NYC IS "good" but not great. You can be comfortable in that you can take taxis, order in, eat out when you want, but everything is SO damn expensive that it's really like making 80k somewhere else. Still good, no complaints, but to make 200K and live in, say, Georgia, you'd be a KING.

Hey-OOOOOO!

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L-Pink

My old dog, part St Bernard, easily accounts for 70% of the housekeeping. In just a few days there are tumble-weed bunches of fur, dog hair/dust on surfaces, goobers on the windows .... But she's 15 and I would gladly have her trash my house forever but that's not going to happen .......

Vjo

You have a nice place. Yeah there is no other option than maid service for that.

Kind of like having the benefits of a wife without the comittment and who knows maybe the maid is single.

Plus as L-Pink said it def helps with the ladies to say, "oh I have the maid take care of it"

Grapesoda

the place is my 'studio'. I rent a small room to live in and what I get a nice quiet place in the country with a pool and tennis court. 3 room aren't even furnished yet, only the content rooms really.

another great thing for the house is plants... and I have a guy that takes care of them as well. really makes the living space nice. might consider that as well.

recently I started letting scented candles burn all night as night lights. since the floors are slate I never worry about it or I place the candles in the fireplace where there is carpet. that really makes things nice around here.

C H R I S

LOL - I believe this thread is done. My maid comes once a week and does a bang up job!

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HeyyyyyyyyyyyyyooooooooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

MP my MAN!!! I have everyone reading my stuff today. hehe

I seem to click with the ten years after (me) crowd. The young crowd I strike out with. lol Oh well. damn generation gap.

But maid service.. I would have to go through and remove everything embarassing first but then it would work. lol I got to get that maid thing going.

Yes we call it the "200k/120k/60k" plan. I am telling you, you would love it. Constant change of seasons. From -10 all Feb to muggy and hot all July and Aug. Altho low humidty and great so far. Knock on wood. (table I dusted)

But the living is CHEAP here.

But yeah NYC is spendy. A shame tho that you are spending so much. 200K is same as 80K. Amazing, I used to think Missouri was perfect. Not too hot, well actually real hot but milder winters but then they get hit with twisters all the time.

I am dedicating these upcoming vids to the guys 10 years after me. Guys around 40 or a lil over. You are a cool gen. I still can relate to you guys. When I delivered pizzas in late 80s early 90s and everyone was 10 years younger than me, they were a really cool bunch.

After work we would go over and burn some herb and listen to guess what?

Metallica. Faith No More. Nirvana. Now as a 70's child I could actaully get into that hard metal a bit. But then the music got real fucken nuts for the guys ten years after you guys.

Anyhoo dedicated to a cool group now in ther early 40s including MP..







pretty good shit maynard



i bet the young guys today at the pizza place wont even burn one with me

Vjo

ok back to our regularly scheduled programming...

this happens whenever I get around these guys in their early 40s im telling ya

mikesouth

bmbradley you clearly don't know a damn thing about me....I don't like AIM but that doesn't mean I like AHF any better, I like them less...AIM was a blight on this industry in my opinion, poor testing methodology, no security, misrepresentation, just because AIM was OUR baby doesn't mean it wasn't an ugly baby. I call it the way I see it I want this industry to do better and I refuse to accept that AIM was the best we could do. If you don't like that...tough, I could care less but I refuse to accept ineptitude and bullshit when it comes to the health of the industry or the health of performers.

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Grapesoda

let me get this right.... Sony, Citibank and a few other major corporations get hacked yet AIM a little shoe string operation is a total piece of worthless shit because they get hacked... I get that right? I'll lay money that AIM has done one hell of a lot more for the industry than you ever have.

Mike it is very easy to find issues and difficult to find solutions in the best of times. AIM was constantly attack yet AIM did a good job... I'm not sure what you know or don't know however I'm here everyday with these performers day in and day out. AIM let no one down that I can see, and AIM was able to contain both HIV outbreaks, the one 2004 and the recent exposure...

the performers heath was guarded as closely has possible with out going to full hazmat suits. the industry has a MUCH lower and better safety record than LA county does on a %, we both know that. hell everyone know that. if you had an issue with Mitchell, so what? I work with people all the time I would prefer not too. that's what being a grown up is about.

try running a lareg organzation with 20+ people and see what kind of stuff goes on. AIm did a good job for a long time with what they had to work with

harvey

you can eat a whole week for $100? Last time I went to US food was really expensive. Obviously, prices are higher for tourists, but still we spent around $100 A DAY (me and my wife and nothing fancy). And way above 100 A MEAL if we went to a nice place.

Anyway, you're right in everything you said (I learned it the hard way, but at least I bought 2 houses before everything went to to the crapper), it's stupid to spend everything you earn in such a volatile business, I have variations of up to 500% on a month per month basis and nowhere close to what I made 8-10 years ago, when I was in a position where I could buy a nice home every single year without even having to make an effort.

Nowadays, if I had to rent the house that I live in (plus my office, which I rent) while keeping the same lifestyle, I don't know if I'd be able to pay for it every single month. Pretty sure I would be always delayed, with some months not paying and some months paying 2 months together. And we don't have a very rich lifestyle, just living pretty comfy, but nothing extreme. And even when I live in a pretty wealthy neighborhood and in a pretty big place, the bottom line is that no more than 5 years ago I would never have an issue to pay for this. (sorry to all my fans that believe I've a Ferrari and several mansions )

Another thing is that when you have kids, financial plans are very difficult to follow, there's always something new, and to make it worse, if my daughters ask for something i just gave them as much as I can, I need to work that behavior

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bmbradley

AIM didnt get hacked....there was NO security to hack them. Anyone with access could dump the entire database and someone did and gave./sold it to Donny long....that was the last of many nails in AIMs coffin....AHF didn't get AIM shut down, AIM got AIM shut down. It's that simple. You may not like hearing the truth but it is no less the truth....so I'm not going to respond here any further because this thread is already derailed, you wanna open a new thread go for it.

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MaDalton

$100 a day? are you crazy?

ever heard of buying groceries and cooking yourself?

man, food is not exactly super cheap here and i can live from $100 easily for 2 weeks

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Mike I worked for ICM for 3 weeks.... not even enough time to make a sale. Most of my time employed by them was spent posting on GFY. I made a mistake, SORRY........

I really dont feel they are the evil you make them out to be, time will tell.

Dont hate me, there are PLENTY of hypocrites you can direct your anger at, plenty of people who hide behind "I hate .XXX." but quietly have NDA's signed. At least I am honest about what I did, I worked as a consultant for 3 weeks. Does that destrot 14 years of experience in this industry - I think not fine sire. ;-) (BF)

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Like I said, AS A TOURIST, I can't cook in a hotel! Anyway, in Buenos Aires you need at least $30/40 a day for a 4 members family just buying groceries and cooking, let alone going to a restaurant, then you'd need at least $25 a day PER PERSON.

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Great GIF Mike....

AIM did a great job for years. Their time is done. End of story.

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We don't hate you, you fucked yourself. End of story.

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