Are you religious?

[CyberHustler]

If so, why and what religion? What brought you into it?

If not, why not?

I grew up catholic, turned agnostic at about 16 years old and stayed that way. It just seemed easier to not care.

[candyflip]

Pretty much the same story here. I might have rebelled a bit sooner, like around 12, as I was forced to go to Catholic school.

[martinsc]

no. I find it hard to believe in any kind of god....

[CaptainHowdy]

I haven't seen (or read) anyone on GFY that doesn't have a religious attitude ...

[V_RocKs]

I am morally compassed.

[Redrob]

Joseph Campbell made the following observation:

He asked do you know what a metaphor is?

Ex 1: John fights like a bear. (No, it is a simile)

Ex 2: John is a bear. (Yes, it is a metaphor)


He then observed that God is a metaphor for the great unknown mysteries of life: our purpose, our afterlife, our beginning, etc., and the metaphor predates modern science.

He then realized that there were basically two types of people:

Type 1: Those who accept the metaphor as fact, ie. "absolute truth". They are the religious believers.

and,

Type 2: Those who accept the metaphor as a metaphor. They are the agnostics who believe that any ultimate reality is unknown and probably unknowable.

If you are a Type 1, no scientific facts will ever change your mind as your beliefs are not founded in reality; but, belief in the reality of a metaphor.

At least I get to enjoy my Sundays off from work.

[Babaganoosh]

I don't believe in God because there is no evidence in any kind of supreme being. Show me proof and I will change my opinions. Any organization which worships a supreme being without having a shred of evidence supporting the existence of said being is completely crazy.

The concept of "faith" that all churches promote tells you that it's a valuable trait to keep your head in the sand and always believe despite overwhelming evidence that the bible is complete trash. To me, that's disgusting.

[barcodes]

Originally Posted by Babaganoosh

I don't believe in God because there is no evidence in any kind of supreme being. Show me proof and I will change my opinions. Any organization which worships a supreme being without having a shred of evidence supporting the existence of said being is completely crazy.

The concept of "faith" that all churches promote tells you that it's a valuable trait to keep your head in the sand and always believe despite overwhelming evidence that the bible is complete trash. To me, that's disgusting.

[Grapesoda]

faith: whether you think you can, or think you can't, you're probably right.

[Chosen]

Originally Posted by Babaganoosh

I don't believe in God because there is no evidence in any kind of supreme being. Show me proof and I will change my opinions. Any organization which worships a supreme being without having a shred of evidence supporting the existence of said being is completely crazy.

The concept of "faith" that all churches promote tells you that it's a valuable trait to keep your head in the sand and always believe despite overwhelming evidence that the bible is complete trash. To me, that's disgusting.

Being religious and believe in God is not the same thing

[The Demon]

Originally Posted by Babaganoosh

I don't believe in God because there is no evidence in any kind of supreme being. Show me proof and I will change my opinions. Any organization which worships a supreme being without having a shred of evidence supporting the existence of said being is completely crazy.

If there was solid evidence of a supreme being, then it wouldn't be called "Religion". The concept of religion is mostly faith based so your post doesn't make any sense.

The concept of "faith" that all churches promote tells you that it's a valuable trait to keep your head in the sand and always believe despite overwhelming evidence that the bible is complete trash. To me, that's disgusting.

Faith has been around before churches rofl. Also, is that any more disgusting than humans trying to rationalize every retarded decision by calling it "relative"? Not sure how you can argue that faith is disgusting but leave that one open rofl. Also, LOL@overwhelming evidence that the bible is absolute trash. I'm not sure you understand what constitutes as "evidence". I advice you to think next time rather than letting your retarded prejudices get in the way.

Being religious and believe in God is not the same thing

It could be. The two aren't mutually exclusive.

[SallyRand]

Originally Posted by Dedi

If so, why and what religion? What brought you into it?

If not, why not?

I grew up catholic, turned agnostic at about 16 years old and stayed that way. It just seemed easier to not care.

No.

Religion is a mental illness.

[GAMEFINEST]

Not really im atheist

[The Demon]

Originally Posted by SallyRand

No.

Religion is a mental illness.

So is the rationalization of relativism. Here, it's simple to end this discussion instead of watching everyone here rationalize to feel better about themselves.

Religious people that try to prove to the nonreligious that God exists, are morons.

Secularists and atheists that try to prove God doesn't exist, are morons.

Problem solved.

[Fabien]

Well if you believe, you then have to believe in Santa Clause, the tooth fairy etc... Without saying a fucking word !

Each religion is 100% sure they are THE ONE with the right stuff.

So pathetic.

[The Demon]

Originally Posted by Fabien

Well if you believe, you then have to believe in Santa Clause, the tooth fairy etc... Without saying a fucking word !

Each religion is 100% sure they are THE ONE with the right stuff.

So pathetic.

Not really sure why if you subscribe to the belief of a supreme being, you have to believe in Santa Clause, which has actually been proven to be a story, by the creators. What's more pathetic is the rationalization about each religion, while also validating your life with relativism. Looking for a logical argument

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by The Demon

The concept of religion

the concept of religion is to define 'G_D' by a set of rules and regulations so as to control the populace by their sexual drives. $.02

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by Fabien

Well if you believe, you then have to believe in Santa Clause, the tooth fairy etc... Without saying a fucking word !

Each religion is 100% sure they are THE ONE with the right stuff.

So pathetic.

do I have to give the presents back then?

[The Demon]

Originally Posted by bm bradley

the concept of religion is to define 'G_D' by a set of rules and regulations so as to control the populace by their sexual drives. $.02

The concept of relativism is to claim there is no right and wrong, everything is relative, and therefore do whatever your heart desires under that banner. One of these definitions is true, one of them doesn't actually exist but serves as a valid rationalization against religion.

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by The Demon

The concept of relativism is to claim there is no right and wrong, everything is relative, and therefore do whatever your heart desires under that banner. One of these definitions is true, one of them doesn't actually exist but serves as a valid rationalization against religion.

Aleister Crowley: do what thou whilst is the whole of the law

https://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=18240925&postcount=17

[SallyRand]

Originally Posted by bm bradley

the concept of religion is to define 'G_D' by a set of rules and regulations so as to control the populace by their sexual drives. $.02

"G_D"?

Now there is some primitive Bronze Age bullshit.

[Fabien]

Originally Posted by The Demon

Not really sure why if you subscribe to the belief of a supreme being, you have to believe in Santa Clause, which has actually been proven to be a story, by the creators. What's more pathetic is the rationalization about each religion, while also validating your life with relativism. Looking for a logical argument

The point is, why should we believe in (let's say) the Christian version of the thingo while deny the Santa Clause one ? Who can confirm what's right or not ?
No one, so every theory is right then.

[pornmasta]

I can't afford to be religious.
Time to work...

[Fabien]

Also, God/religion is men worst enemy. Don't take my word for it, just check out the stats ! It's the number one killer of all time. PERIOD

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by SallyRand

"G_D"?

Now there is some primitive Bronze Age bullshit.

[MediumPimpin]

Fuck The Pope!

[Babaganoosh]

Originally Posted by The Demon

If there was solid evidence of a supreme being, then it wouldn't be called "Religion". The concept of religion is mostly faith based so your post doesn't make any sense.



Faith has been around before churches rofl. Also, is that any more disgusting than humans trying to rationalize every retarded decision by calling it "relative"? Not sure how you can argue that faith is disgusting but leave that one open rofl. Also, LOL@overwhelming evidence that the bible is absolute trash. I'm not sure you understand what constitutes as "evidence". I advice you to think next time rather than letting your retarded prejudices get in the way.


It could be. The two aren't mutually exclusive.

You almost always argue semantics. That's a sure sign of someone who is talking out of his ass. Now hush, son. The grown ups are trying to talk.

[Fabien]

You know what's funny about the pop, 2 minutes before he got elected, no one knew shit about him ! They couldn't say his name nor recognize him in the street ! The second after, everybody's in trance, going nuts when seeing him hahahahahaha. Like if the jackass, (sorry the chosen one), have a cell phone/red phone with god now hahahahahaha
He is now in control of the hotline. NEAT !

[grumpy]

in 2011, dont think so

[wig]

Originally Posted by The Demon

The concept of relativism is to claim there is no right and wrong, everything is relative, and therefore do whatever your heart desires under that banner. One of these definitions is true, one of them doesn't actually exist but serves as a valid rationalization against religion.

Relativism, relativism, relativism... no matter how many times you say it you're still left with your sacred text in which your God permits slavery, the stoning of adulterers and homosexuals, and plenty of other moral atrocities.

Luckily, even most religious people have moved on from this stupidity.

There's not a single person here who could not improve upon your religions 10 commandments.

Of course, there are other arguments depending how one defines god. And there is plenty of evidence to illustrate that the Biblical writers engaged in blatant fabrications.

I think some courses on Hebrew/Biblical history and moral philosophy would do you some good.


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[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by wig

Relativism, relativism, relativism... no matter how many times you say it you're still left with your sacred text in which your God permits slavery, the stoning of adulterers and homosexuals, and plenty of other moral atrocities.

Luckily, even most religious people have moved on from this stupidity.

There's not a single person here who could not improve upon your religions 10 commandments.

Of course, there are other arguments depending how one defines god. And there is plenty of evidence to illustrate that the Biblical writers engaged in blatant fabrications.

I think some courses on Hebrew/Biblical history and moral philosophy would do you some good.


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hummm.... seven commandment's...10 for Jews and just 7 for gentiles

[AtlantisCash]

i m a deist, believing GOD, but not to an organized religion.

i razed as a muslim and i was one until almost 1 and half year ago (i m not sure what was the exact time).

when i read the Koran in the languages that i understand English/Turkish, i realized that it was nothing, but just a book that's written/made up by Mohammed himself.

he might be a schizophrenic man or a pragmatist who could make the sheeps follow behind him.

i don't know what was the reality, but there is something i know that we had enough with this all religions, races and what ever you name it

[B.Barnato]

Originally Posted by Babaganoosh

I don't believe in God because there is no evidence in any kind of supreme being. Show me proof and I will change my opinions. Any organization which worships a supreme being without having a shred of evidence supporting the existence of said being is completely crazy.

The Bible is full of proof of God. Not only does it tell us about how we came to exist but also what God expects from us and what he has envisaged for us.

How can you need any more proof than God's word itself?

[CyberHustler]

Originally Posted by B.Barnato

The Bible is full of proof of God. Not only does it tell us about how we came to exist but also what God expects from us and what he has envisaged for us.

How can you need any more proof than God's word itself?

[AtlantisCash]

Originally Posted by B.Barnato

The Bible is full of proof of God. Not only does it tell us about how we came to exist but also what God expects from us and what he has envisaged for us.

How can you need any more proof than God's word itself?

Hopefully this was a joke.

Let's say i m a pastafarian, i even made a book and i claim it's the GOD's (flying spagetti monster's) word, how do i know flying spagetti monsters exist? because the book filled with his words.

How's that?

Did i prove you Spagetti that monster exists?

[Nicky]

Originally Posted by B.Barnato

The Bible is full of proof of God. Not only does it tell us about how we came to exist but also what God expects from us and what he has envisaged for us.

How can you need any more proof than God's word itself?

[u-Bob]

Do I believe in God, a god, gods,.. ? No, I don't.

Do I deny the existence of 'a supreme being'? No, I don't. Right now I have no reason to assume such a thing exists. However this does not mean I deny it (can) exists.
I have not yet seen any evidence or proof (be it empirical or axiomatic-deductive) or even any indication to assume such a thing, that religious people call God, exists.
I also have not yet looked for any evidence or proof of the existence of such a being.
And I have no inclination to look for any evidence or proof of the existence of such a being.
I simply don't care.

Am I anti-religion? No, I am not. Anything that may inspire people to do good, help others, lead a 'virtues' life,... has value imo.
However, I am aware of the fact that organized religion can and in the past has been abused by people with bad intentions. But this does not make me anti-religion. The fact that religious movements or organizations can be abused is not something that results from religion itself but from human individuals who decide to ignore their personal responsibilities and decide to follow a leader (any leader) or organization without respecting other people's fundamental (property) rights.

[wig]

Originally Posted by B.Barnato

The Bible is full of proof of God. Not only does it tell us about how we came to exist but also what God expects from us and what he has envisaged for us.

How can you need any more proof than God's word itself?

.

[CurrentlySober]

I like to think of myself as spiritual. But NOT religious...

[adultforum]

Im religious. I believe in God and in My Guardian Angel, the one who brings me lot of sales on cam sites

[CurrentlySober]

Originally Posted by CurrentlySober

I like to think of myself as spiritual. But NOT religious...

Sorry, I didn't explain myself. By Spiritual, I really mean 'Full of Spirits' - Usually Vodka - Sometimes Gin.

Hope thats clearer

[u-Bob]

Originally Posted by CurrentlySober

By Spiritual, I really mean 'Full of Spirits'

as opposed to "Full of shit"?

[CurrentlySober]

Originally Posted by u-Bob

as opposed to "Full of shit"?

i like being full of shit...

[moeloubani]

I am a devout Jew like sperbonzo

[nikki99]

yes I was for many years since my childhood till I was Robbed this year in my condo, that was an act of God?

[martinsc]

[B.Barnato]

Originally Posted by AtlantisCash

Hopefully this was a joke.

Let's say i m a pastafarian, i even made a book and i claim it's the GOD's (flying spagetti monster's) word, how do i know flying spagetti monsters exist? because the book filled with his words.

How's that?

Did i prove you Spagetti that monster exists?

Not sure why it is supposed to be a joke.

There is so much proof that the Bible is God's word it is mind blowing.

All the prophecies that came true, all the knowledge that was passed on and came to be true even in our lifetime.

How can such a book of wisdom survive such a long period of time and be passed along to us without God's protection?

If anyone bases their outlook on God upon scientific reasoning they are simpletons.

Science, like any other industry must show results to gain funding, be it in the private or public sector. Once a layer of science is accepted as fact it is easy to base future claims on this layer without questioning the truth.

lol we don't even know if there is or if there is no global warming, how does anyone want to tell me we came from mud with any amount of certainty...

[pornmasta]

Ok god exists:
Which one ?

[LongBucksVip]

I am atheist
But if I were religious, I'd choose buddhism ))

[CurrentlySober]

Originally Posted by Redrob

Joseph Campbell made the following observation:

He asked do you know what a metaphor is?

Ex 1: John fights like a bear. (No, it is a simile)

Ex 2: John is a bear. (Yes, it is a metaphor)


He then observed that God is a metaphor for the great unknown mysteries of life: our purpose, our afterlife, our beginning, etc., and the metaphor predates modern science.

He then realized that there were basically two types of people:

Type 1: Those who accept the metaphor as fact, ie. "absolute truth". They are the religious believers.

and,

Type 2: Those who accept the metaphor as a metaphor. They are the agnostics who believe that any ultimate reality is unknown and probably unknowable.

If you are a Type 1, no scientific facts will ever change your mind as your beliefs are not founded in reality; but, belief in the reality of a metaphor.

At least I get to enjoy my Sundays off from work.

QFT: Brilliant post...