Why is there no sex in porn ?

[Cherry7]

Do people who make porn really like sex?.

Take a scene from a mainstream movie

MAINSTREAM FILM

"Head in the Clouds"

Boy is studying in college room, a knock at the door it is a hot girl, she is soaked through, its raining out.

GIRL


GIRL ( Charlize Theron)

Can I stay here ? The Warden is looking for me and I'll be in dead trouble if I'm caught.


BOY (Stuart Townsend)

Of Course


You are soaked through, you must take those wet clothes off, come near the fire.

The GIRL slowly takes off her dress until she is standing in her beautiful underwear.


BOY

You better stay the night


I'll sleep on the floor


GIRL

"No, I can't allow that. I'll share the bed with you"

LATER

The boy is in the bed looking at the girls pretty feet.

She shifts around and her feet hit his erection

BOY

Embarrassed (I'm Sorry )

GIRL

"Don't be I'm flattered"



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BRAZZERS winning script...

http://www.brazzers.com/tour3/?action=auditions


Minute after minute of dialog about the difficulties of teaching, amateur acting and tired unconvincing sex....



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Film Parody's about, Star Trek , Firemen ,,,,,and the sex like something that has to be done to justify the awful film.


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The mainstream film wastes no time in pointless stupid dialog, the whole subject matter is erotic it is about sex.

Why is there no real sex in porn ?

Being forbidden is not enough any more, we have complete freedom to show something sexy and yet how much really hot stuff is there out of the 10000s of hours of material.

[sponsorpimp]

Each to their own. No sex in porn - where do you live under a rock?

[CurrentlySober]

Theres no sex in MY porn... And I have been making a pretty good living off of it

Believe it or not, I actually understand you, and I agree

[zeuse]

Head in the clouds is a sweeping romantic drama set in 1930's, Brazzers isn't.

[Cherry7]

Originally Posted by zeuse

Head in the clouds is a sweeping romantic drama set in 1930's, Brazzers isn't.

Yes, but they keep on the subject - sex, the erotic, romance....


Not yak yak yak about God knows what in these porn "movies" .....What's that got to do with porn, sex or anything hot ?

If your making a movie about sex shouldn't that be the main subject ?

[mineistaken]

There is sex in the porn. In most of it. There is small portion (niched and stuff) without it though.

[Cherry7]

Originally Posted by mineistaken

There is sex in the porn. In most of it. There is small portion (niched and stuff) without it though.

I don't think you get what I am trying to say, if sex is the business why is it so badly done?

Why so fake ? Why the story lines about anything BUT sex....

The amateur stuff is also pretty lame at times with people just going through the motions with fake groans etc...

Badly shot does not make it real either...

[PR_Glen]

i think you mean that there is no seduction. The brazzers scene had its own version of it though, but I get what you are saying...

btw seduction helps sales ;)

[CaptainHowdy]

Porn = sex parody. Welcome.

[wehateporn]

The brain is the biggest sexual organ

[seeandsee]

i like "Real" porn more than standart hardcore action, i really dont know why they cant make a little drama

[JamesGw]

Someone needs to set the standard. Go ahead. Do it.

[drmadcat]

i dont need sex in porn as i ejaculate before the pizza boy puts down his bag

[d-null]

OP is obviously a woman, or a gay male

[Sophie Delancey]

There are some sites out there that are offering porn with more focus on the sex itself, it's just slightly less prevalent at the moment. The Art of Blowjob is an excellent example.

[NaughtyRob]

Like 85% or more of porn buyers are men. Men want action aka gonzo. Not romance.

[cooldude7]

i dont get it., whats the diff., in porn & sex.

ref: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/in...9010324AAhNTMO

[cooldude7]

okie., now i get it.,

Porn is phony and the figment of some enterprising person's imagination. It's acting and not real; it doesn't come from the heart and guts.

Sex is an expression of emotions like love, togetherness, affection and fun.

Big difference.

[_Richard_]

old european porn is great for this

[Cherry7]

Originally Posted by zeuse

Head in the clouds is a sweeping romantic drama set in 1930's, Brazzers isn't.

But why is there more sex in "head in the Clouds" than in the Brazzers movie ?

Why in the "Head in the Clouds" the subject matter is SEX and in Brazzers the subject is

TEACHING TEENAGERS IS DIFFICULT !

WTF is going on, the Subject in porn should be SEX SEX SEX not stupid plots about the everything but sex.

And gonzo just cause is badly lit, crap sound and shot by a camera resting on the hotel table does not make it great real sex.


What I am saying is there is a real lack of good fucking in the millions of hours of porn and that may be a reason why people don't won't to pay

[Joshua G]

the reason is because the consumers like their porn hard & dirty. If erotica was preferred by the consumer, thats what would be all over the tubes.

another reason is that the best film producers stay away from producing porn.

[camperjohn64]

I was thinking about this all day - I bet if you could pull this off, consistantly, you could be the Brazzer's of female signups.

Girls dig this shit, but they don't buy porn, because of what porn currently is - hard and fast. That's for guys.

just my 2 cents.

[garce]

Originally Posted by Cherry7

Do people who make porn really like sex?.

Take a scene from a mainstream movie

MAINSTREAM FILM

"Head in the Clouds"

:

No sense writing plot-driven scripts for people who suck cock and get fucked in the ass for a living - particularly when your audience is going to watch your video in 3 to 10 minutes bites.

You're comparing a Charlize Theron film to porn? Really???

[CDSmith]

In order to get the kinds of scenes you're describing into porn the porn production companies would have to spend money on things like... writers. As in writers with some talent. And in taking the time to coach the so-called actors to get their lines and their marks and their takes right. Time is money and that kind of time is rarely spent on fuck scenes.

There are certain people who are putting out some fairly well done romantic porn, but few these days also add in the writing and extra effort in the acting department. Especially web-based porn. Occasionally there is still the odd adult film released on DVD that doesn't completely suck... but none are ever going to be that "Hollywood film injected with porn" type of movie you seem to be asking for.

[Cherry7]

What you are posting is not true...Look at the Brazzers clips ! Its NOT hard sex from the get go. Thats my point. It is talk, talk talk , for more than 6 minutes.... and talk about sex ?

No talk about TEACHING !!!!!

I know you will tell the punter will fast forward to the action, so why do it ?

It does not need big buck writers and crews, but what it does need is an interest in the subject SEX, new ideas for making hot films..

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by Cherry7

I don't think you get what I am trying to say, if sex is the business why is it so badly done?

Why so fake ? Why the story lines about anything BUT sex....

The amateur stuff is also pretty lame at times with people just going through the motions with fake groans etc...

Badly shot does not make it real either...

I've been saying the same for a very long time. Not just about online porn, but also offline porn as far as videos are concerned.

The reason is simple. Over production and under funding.

When the video industry went to loading the shelves with more and more titles, they thought it would lead to more revenue. It didn't but the dye was cast and they kept increasing the numbers hoping it would work. The problem is the numbers bought didn't increase at the same rate as the numbers produced. So every title sold less.

Online porn decided anyone with a camera and naked girl could shoot porn, which was clearly wrong. They said the porn consumer was tired of buying dull porn valley type scenes. The truth was they wouldn't or couldn't afford to shoot anything better.

Many of the so called "Amateur" scenes were true in the sense that the shooter was an amateur and the model professional.

Prices paid for custom work were derisory and no decent shooter would work for online porn, unless his own site. Many sites paid $1500 for 5 solo girl scenes, set and video. No girl can deliver 5 good scenes in a day. No good shooter will work for that. The same applies to GG and BG.

So it was content just churned out with models going through their usual routine and the orgasms were as real as Father Christmas and the Tooth Fairy.

Those who tried to change this were shot down, as it meant spending more on content.

I remember fondly the days when a girl on a porn shoot actually had a good fucking time. LOL

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by Cherry7

What you are posting is not true...Look at the Brazzers clips ! Its NOT hard sex from the get go. Thats my point. It is talk, talk talk , for more than 6 minutes.... and talk about sex ?

No talk about TEACHING !!!!!

I know you will tell the punter will fast forward to the action, so why do it ?

It does not need big buck writers and crews, but what it does need is an interest in the subject SEX, new ideas for making hot films..

Porn comes in many different versions. There can be a lead in of comedy where the actors perform in their roles. Private made some great porn like that years ago.

However when it comes to the sex part there has to be reality. The shooter has to know how to achieve that. Not the director, producer or content manager. The guy or guys holding the cameras, they have to know how to construct a scene and produce the right environment for the models to bring out the passion and emotion of a porn scene.

Bringing a girl to an orgasm in a porn scene is hard, often they have to fake it. There are ways to make it more real.

Yet if the model has her way, she won't bother, she will just put on the same standard performance that has been done 20 or 200 times before. And with some newbies they've seen on porn Tubes thinking it's right. Tell her it's not good enough and she might get up and walk out. There are ways to get it right. Today the model is about "Feel the width, not the quality."

The price is all that matters. Except to the members, they do care.

[buildingfutures]

Haven't read all the posts but IMO it's pretty obvious..

First of all, as far as I know female friendly porn exists, so if you want all that stuff, get into that niche.

Secondly, if you can do it better, do it.

Thirdly, most of these plots are "fantasies" to a LOT of guys. Sitting in a classroom, teacher walks in and turns out to be fucking hot as SHIT. She just talks like your regular teacher would. About non-related sex matters, but then; oops! She touched your cock.

Same goes for the doctor scenes. You go to a doctor and well would you look at that incredible ass. She doesn't ask to suck your dick immediately. You talk about actual medical issues. Then she needs to have a look at your dick. Then she wants to put it in her mouth.

They're called fantasies. People dig them.

[jimmycooper]

Originally Posted by CDSmith

In order to get the kinds of scenes you're describing into porn the porn production companies would have to spend money on things like... writers. As in writers with some talent. And in taking the time to coach the so-called actors to get their lines and their marks and their takes right. Time is money and that kind of time is rarely spent on fuck scenes.

There are certain people who are putting out some fairly well done romantic porn, but few these days also add in the writing and extra effort in the acting department. Especially web-based porn. Occasionally there is still the odd adult film released on DVD that doesn't completely suck... but none are ever going to be that "Hollywood film injected with porn" type of movie you seem to be asking for.

You clearly don't know what you're talking about. I'm sure you think you know what you're talking about, but you don't. Though, I guess it is easy to see how one can lose touch with reality after averaging nearly 13 posts per day on GFY for the past 10 years. The quality of both the acting and writing in feature length porn movies has improved dramatically over the past decade. It's like night and day.

[slapass]

Ever look at Viv Thomas?