PayPal, IFPI and Police Collaborate To Strangle Pirate Music Sites

[Harmon]

Good news. Strangle those mother fuckers.
http://torrentfreak.com/paypal-ifpi-...-sites-110723/

[moeloubani]

Any time the police can do something without court approval it isn't good news.

They have the right idea but cops are known to get drunk with power and go on dumb rampages for no real reason.

[Young]

Nice start. I guess. But those are sites that are directly monetizing (ie accepting payments) the stolen music on their sites.

The easier targets would be the sites/programs giving away free music and are completely ad supported or supported by the big download sites (filesonic, fileserve, hotfile, rapidshare etc)

[SallyRand]

Originally Posted by moeloubani

Any time the police can do something without court approval it isn't good news.

They have the right idea but cops are known to get drunk with power and go on dumb rampages for no real reason.

There is no abuse of police power here as the only thing that the police are doing is reporting the sites to the CC processors so that the processors can enforce a rule which is already in place, namely that those selling music must be properly licensed by the copyright holders.

The complete article:

"PayPal, IFPI and Police Collaborate To Strangle Pirate Music Sites

According to an announcement by IFPI, online payment provider PayPal has agreed to help strangle the finances of sites offering unauthorized music. While it appears that the initial targets are Russian and Ukrainian MP3 services, the deal will also be of concern to torrent sites that rely on PayPal to accept site donations.

In March this year IFPI announced that they had reached agreement with MasterCard, Visa and the City of London Police to develop cooperation against sites selling unauthorized music. Under the deal, IFPI investigators hand evidence of infringement to the police who proceed to engage the payment processors.

?Once the police have verified the evidence, they notify MasterCard and Visa who require the acquiring bank providing the retailer with payment services to produce evidence of appropriate licenses to sell music or cease providing those services to the retailer,? IFPI explained.

It?s suggested by IFPI that the main targets of the action are Russian ?AllofMP3′-style clones, sites that often operate legally under domestic legislation much to the disappointment of the international music industry.

However, the engagement of a new and powerful ally this week has the potential to affect many ?private? members-only BitTorrent sites, wherever they may be.

While the March announcement from MasterCard and Visa would have been of little concern to the majority of torrent sites, the news that online payment processor PayPal is now getting on board will be viewed very differently and will sound a cautionary warning for the future.

Admittedly the relationships between PayPal and torrent sites don?t always run smoothly (accounts and funds are often frozen or completely lost), but nevertheless PayPal remains the long-standing donation service of choice for dozens, maybe hundreds, of torrent sites. Very often donations are their only source of revenue.

While in connection with this scheme IFPI specifically refer to the ?sale? of illicit music (something which the vast majority of torrent sites don?t directly engage in), previous anti-piracy cases have framed torrent site user donations as ?subscriptions? or ?paid memberships.? To the UK police, who have already been happy to arrest the admins of several torrent and other file-sharing sites, the difference may be academic.

?Today?s announcement shows that PayPal is very serious about fighting music piracy,? said Carl Scheible, PayPal UK?s managing director.

?We?ve always banned PayPal?s use for the sale of content that infringes copyright, and the new system will make life even harder for illegal operators. Our partnership with the music industry helps rights holders make money from their own content while stopping the pirates in their tracks.?

As highlighted in our earlier article, it is perfectly possible to run a few-hundred-thousand-peer private tracker for a fairly modest monthly outlay but with rising costs associated with topsite access (for obtaining new content quickly) and site-run seedboxes, outlay can begin to spiral out of control.

If the music industry does indeed pressure PayPal to take action against torrent site donations as well as sites directly selling unauthorized music, administrators will be forced to reconsider their positions. Some will undoubtedly call it a day."

Funny how many consider free tube sites to be piracy but don't give piracy of music a second thought!

[Paul Markham]

The easiest way to hit the pirates is their income. Make advertisers and payment options culpable for sites that break the laws.

Make Visa pull the rug from under the pirates and the whole thing shrinks.

If you advertise or process on/for a site that has masses of pirated content on, you might be standing in the dock.

Wouldn't wipe it out, but watch piracy shrink. The problem today is piracy is profitable.

[Paul Markham]

[QUOTE=SallyRand;18302111Funny how many consider free tube sites to be piracy but don't give piracy of music a second thought![/QUOTE]

They care if it costs them money, if it saves them money. They love it.

Where's Gideon to tell us how it won't work and that it's anti freedom to steal and profit from theft?

[SallyRand]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

They care if it costs them money, if it saves them money. They love it.

Where's Gideon to tell us how it won't work and that it's anti freedom to steal and profit from theft?

Great post Paul!

[SallyRand]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

The easiest way to hit the pirates is their income. Make advertisers and payment options culpable for sites that break the laws.

Make Visa pull the rug from under the pirates and the whole thing shrinks.

If you advertise or process on/for a site that has masses of pirated content on, you might be standing in the dock.

Wouldn't wipe it out, but watch piracy shrink. The problem today is piracy is profitable.

That's it in a nutshell!

Put a crimp in the money pipeline and taht is pretty much the end of it!

[L-Pink]

Harmon, who is the girl in your avatar? Any more photos?

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[iamtam]

Originally Posted by moeloubani

Any time the police can do something without court approval it isn't good news.

They have the right idea but cops are known to get drunk with power and go on dumb rampages for no real reason.

spoken like a true freetard running in hard retreat.

its pretty simple. the police are provided information of illegal activity. they ask the payment processors involved to show that their clients are legal and above board, and if they are not, the payment processor by their choice cuts them off.

the wild west age of the internet is quickly dying, abused by too many young turds with no respect. line up and pay for your shit already.