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Old 07-25-2011, 01:45 AM   #51
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Complete ignorance.
I'm going to assume that you're talking about those who didn't know this above and that this is a well-known fact to you, if not then your comment is ironic...Let's look at Measles as an example. It is those who are deficient in Vitamin A who are most likely to have problems.

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What is the relationship between measles and malnutrition?

There is a close and important relationship between measles and malnutrition (i.e. undernutrition).

Measles is far more severe in children who are malnourished, especially if they are also vitamin A deficient. In addition, complications are more common and more serious in malnourished children.

Measles, especially with complications such as diarrhoea, often results in failure to thrive. Measles may lead to kwashiorkor or marasmus in children who are underweight at the time that they get measles. Therefore, measles may result in, or aggravate, malnutrition.

Measles is more severe in malnourished children and may make the existing malnutrition worse.
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Old 07-25-2011, 03:50 AM   #52
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Chemtrails

3..2..1..go!
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Old 07-25-2011, 03:55 AM   #53
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Chemtrails

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haha...these guys will need a break for now...oh go on then, even if you just watch it for the great music in the first 10 minutes

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Old 07-25-2011, 08:13 AM   #54
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and yet cloud seeding happens all the time..
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Old 07-25-2011, 08:34 AM   #55
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In fact, Mumps, Measles etc leave us immune to various cancer, they toughen up our immune systems. Vaccines leave us with couch-potato immune systems.

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Here's a fact for you, those diseases killed people before they got cancer. Does your youtube research cover this? It seems kind of relevant...
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Old 07-25-2011, 10:03 AM   #56
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Here's a fact for you, those diseases killed people before they got cancer. Does your youtube research cover this? It seems kind of relevant...
Only if malnourished, but vaccines all take down the malnourished
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i gotta respect wehateporn, he does have his bases covered and also doesn't resort to name calling and the typical conspiracy theorist's debating style of dodge & deflect.

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Old 07-25-2011, 10:10 AM   #58
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i gotta respect wehateporn, he does have his bases covered and also doesn't resort to name calling and the typical conspiracy theorist's debating style of dodge & deflect.

nice work.
appreciated dyna mo
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Since the heavy vaccination schedule was introduced we now have 6 times as many people going down with diabetes type 1
and this statement proves what?
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Do your research. Many vaccines prove to not be very effective. So kids get stuck with a needle full of viral garbage and preservatives yet end up with the sickness anyway. Plus some kids die from vaccines. Lots of kids get really sick within a few days of getting vaccinated. Our daughter had to be hospitalized after she got one shot and became very sick with a dangerously high fever. And of course a nice bonus is when the vaccines are tainted with other diseases. It happens. Again, do your research. I had done my research but after so many doctors (whores of the pharmaceutical companies) lobbied to get us to vaccinate our daughter we relented and thought we would at least get a whooping cough vaccine.

If you are one of the enlightened individuals walking this earth then you would make sure your kids eat only organic non gmo foods with many of them being raw, purify your indoor air and drinking water, stay away from vaccines, and make sure you kids play with other kids who have parents who are not typical brain dead tv addicted turds. Doing this will show your kids that your truly love them enough to protect them.
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My general stance on topics like this are that I don't know enough to have a valid opinion. Until I spend a year researching every bit of data I can find, I clearly won't know what I'm talking about.

But...

My gut feeling is that there is something valid about the current vaccination schedule being dangerous. My son became very sick after his first set of vaccines at 4 months old, and it was terrifying for me to see him that way. His doctor decided to wait until he was over a year old to give him any further vaccines, and then she spread them out as far apart as she could before he would need them to be enrolled in preschool.

If you've got a shitty doctor or shitty health coverage, which is often the case in low income areas, you probably wouldn't even be given the option as I was to dramatically slow down the government suggested vaccination schedule.
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vaccinations are better then nothing for sure

however i will agree that sometimes they test shit on people..usually unfortunate third world countries..people with no voice etc

lets hope the drug companies and governments dont decide to test here, and keep the good stuff coming here only..lol
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i get/got what was necessary for college 6 years ago but i dont run out and get a flu vaccine or anything "new" when it comes out. I cant even remember the last time I had a shot or vaccine and I plan on keeping that way as long as possible.
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Old 07-26-2011, 08:09 AM   #65
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i get/got what was necessary for college 6 years ago but i dont run out and get a flu vaccine or anything "new" when it comes out. I cant even remember the last time I had a shot or vaccine and I plan on keeping that way as long as possible.
They are annoying the way they leave their jobs in the Pharm one day, take a job on a board the next day and start putting rules into place about having to receive vaccines to go to school, once that's done they quit their job and go back to their old Pharm job
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vaccinations are better then nothing for sure

however i will agree that sometimes they test shit on people..usually unfortunate third world countries..people with no voice etc

lets hope the drug companies and governments dont decide to test here, and keep the good stuff coming here only..lol
The third world certainly does get the worst of it, they don't have governments and media who will protect them, so people aren't scared of treating them like farm yard animals

The recent Swine Flu and Cervical Cancer vaccines are the first time that covert fertility reduction has been attempted in the West.
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My general stance on topics like this are that I don't know enough to have a valid opinion. Until I spend a year researching every bit of data I can find, I clearly won't know what I'm talking about.

But...

My gut feeling is that there is something valid about the current vaccination schedule being dangerous. My son became very sick after his first set of vaccines at 4 months old, and it was terrifying for me to see him that way. His doctor decided to wait until he was over a year old to give him any further vaccines, and then she spread them out as far apart as she could before he would need them to be enrolled in preschool.

If you've got a shitty doctor or shitty health coverage, which is often the case in low income areas, you probably wouldn't even be given the option as I was to dramatically slow down the government suggested vaccination schedule.
This is a good point you raise, in Japan they stopped all vaccines for under 2's, as a result of this Cot Death completely disappeared. Japan had the best childhood mortality rate in the world. This obviously posed a big problem, something had to be done or else it would be obvious that vaccines are causing more harm that good. Intense pressure was placed on Japan to start vaccinating at a younger age (Opium War Style) so they moved the minimum age down to 1. Cot Death returned, Japan dropped in the childhood mortality rankings.

This is of course the reason why the USA doesn't have a good childhood mortality rate compared to the other wealthy countries, as soon as they started giving vaccines to newborns that was it, there was a huge drop. No one else gets as many as in the US, it's got out of control!
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Do your research. Many vaccines prove to not be very effective. So kids get stuck with a needle full of viral garbage and preservatives yet end up with the sickness anyway. Plus some kids die from vaccines. Lots of kids get really sick within a few days of getting vaccinated. Our daughter had to be hospitalized after she got one shot and became very sick with a dangerously high fever. And of course a nice bonus is when the vaccines are tainted with other diseases. It happens. Again, do your research. I had done my research but after so many doctors (whores of the pharmaceutical companies) lobbied to get us to vaccinate our daughter we relented and thought we would at least get a whooping cough vaccine.

If you are one of the enlightened individuals walking this earth then you would make sure your kids eat only organic non gmo foods with many of them being raw, purify your indoor air and drinking water, stay away from vaccines, and make sure you kids play with other kids who have parents who are not typical brain dead tv addicted turds. Doing this will show your kids that your truly love them enough to protect them.
It sounds like you've read a lot on the topic. My sister was in a similar situation to you, the doctors managed to push her into the HiB vaccine for her son. She knew not to go near Whooping Cough vaccine as it almost killed her husband, she knew to avoid lots of the others. Eventually, she agreed her son could receive the Hib and Polio vaccines. Unfortunately the Hib gave him type 1 diabetes. I wish I had been able to speak to her beforehand and warn her. The Hib vaccine is worse than pointless. It leaves more children serverly disabled than the amount of lives it's meant to save. As soon as Hib was brought into the UK and USA vaccine schedules there was a sharp rise in Diabetes Type 1 in both countries. Despite all the evidence, it's still there. The only conclusion I can draw from that is that Type 1 diabetics make the Pharms a lot of money, they are lifelong customers.
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and this statement proves what?
The statement itself doesn't prove a thing, I'm using it to point you in a direction where you'll find an incredible amount of evidence that vaccines are the main cause of Diabetes Type 1

The Hep B vaccine is the worst offender and Hib is second
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As someone who has put a lot of time, energy and research into this... I strongly recommend that you vaccinate your children. Please.

Not just for your children but for those babies, children and others that have yet or are unable to vaccinate that you put at risk.
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As someone who has put a lot of time, energy and research into this... I strongly recommend that you vaccinate your children. Please.

Not just for your children but for those babies, children and others that have yet or are unable to vaccinate that you put at risk.
Stuart and I have had our differences and I certainly don't know the details of his siutation. From what I do know, I trust completely that he has infact done the research he says. This might be the most informed oppinion in the whole post.
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As someone who has put a lot of time, energy and research into this... I strongly recommend that you vaccinate your children. Please.

Not just for your children but for those babies, children and others that have yet or are unable to vaccinate that you put at risk.
I appreciate what you say, the main point I will make is that it's best to also research outside of what the Pharms and Health Organisations (with the Pharm people sitting on them CDC, WHO etc), as otherwise it would be like asking McDonalds if their food is healthy.
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so much for measles happening to only the malnourished huh?

http://news.health.com/2010/03/22/me...cinated-child/

found this from cnn today, no idea why an old article was found on the main health page, but doesn't make it less true...
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so much for measles happening to only the malnourished huh?

http://news.health.com/2010/03/22/me...cinated-child/

found this from cnn today, no idea why an old article was found on the main health page, but doesn't make it less true...
Measles can be caught by anyone who doesn't already have immunity to it. It is the malnourished who are damaged by it.

Measles is good for you if you're not malnourished, after measles we go on a growth spurt, we are left immune to various tumours, our immune system has learned how to kick ass. It's also been observed that artistic ability takes a giant stride forward.

Saying we should vaccinate against measles is like saying we should vaccinate caterpillars to stop them from going into cocoons. To the uninformed it will look like a caterpillar is dying in the cocoon, lying there motionless, but if we vaccinated them against going into cocoons we'd wipe them out.
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