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12clicks · 07-29-2011, 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by raymor

Also when Gore did a paper and presentation on the right way for the government to work with private industry, he used Haliburton as the case study. Al Gore showed how Haliburton was able to get jobs done at lower cost and much more quickly than the government could do it itself.

In fact Presidents have been giving awards and props Haluburton since 1963 because when you need 700 oil well fires extinguished NOW or you need a prison built in a few weeks nobody else can do it like they can. I've watched them work so I se what Gore was taking about.

Contrary to popular belief among the lefties, other companies DID bid on the Iraq contingency contracts. Those other companies needed several months and billions of dollars to hire people and aquire large equipment. Haliburton was ready to go because that's what they do. They handle big projects right and they are always ready to go. Need a refinery? Haliburton can build you one quicker than any government agency can approve the paint color.

hey now!
don't go confusing these failures with facts. Thats not what they're looking for.
At the end of the day, all these losers want is for someone other than them to pay for all the goodies the government promised they could have for free.

funny that the hangers on in this busienss still believe you can get things for free.

TheDoc · 07-29-2011, 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

hey now!
don't go confusing these failures with facts. Thats not what they're looking for.
At the end of the day, all these losers want is for someone other than them to pay for all the goodies the government promised they could have for free.

funny that the hangers on in this busienss still believe you can get things for free.

It's amazing how idiots like yourself support taking your tax dollars and giving it to corps but you don't support your own tax dollars helping you out instead.

When you pay into something and take something out later, that's not free, it's your f'in money being used on you. Idiot.

Mutt · 07-29-2011, 06:31 AM

you get the government you deserve the saying goes

time for a benevolent dictator, this simply isn't working out.

parliamentary system is looking like a better form of government for the US to me, majority party gets the Presidency and pretty much gets free reign to push forward what it deems best until the next election, the opposition has little power other than to bump its gums until they win a majority. dumb Democrats, had control of Congress and didn't get shit done.

There's very little difference between the parties now, the Republicans just have more clowns who are easier to hate as human beings while the Democrats have more clowns that you just laugh at or feel sorry for.

sperbonzo · 07-29-2011, 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

hey now!
don't go confusing these failures with facts. Thats not what they're looking for.At the end of the day, all these losers want is for someone other than them to pay for all the goodies the government promised they could have for free.funny that the hangers on in this busienss still believe you can get things for free.

. After hurricane Wilma hit us in north Miami every person on our street was eligible for $700 in fed money for lost food since we had lost power for 12 days and all the food people had in their fridges had gone bad. I couldn't believe how the government official was trying to push us to take the money. Obviously I refused since I'm not going to be a hypocrite and take government help as a libertarian, but the amount of pressure put on us to take the money was amazing and ridiculous. I bet that plenty of our neighbors, none of whom really needed it, probably took it. Sorry for bad typing from my iPhone

12clicks · 07-29-2011, 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc

It's amazing how idiots like yourself support taking your tax dollars and giving it to corps but you don't support your own tax dollars helping you out instead.

When you pay into something and take something out later, that's not free, it's your f'in money being used on you. Idiot.

dear rabble, please stop pretending you make enough to pay income tax.
you get a free ride.

oh, and shit stain, the intelligent understand that "paying" a corp to do a job is not "giving" it to them.

no wonder your on the bottom.

TheDoc · 07-29-2011, 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

dear rabble, please stop pretending you make enough to pay income tax.
you get a free ride.

oh, and shit stain, the intelligent understand that "paying" a corp to do a job is not "giving" it to them.

no wonder your on the bottom.

Damn, you're so poor you actually still pay income tax?

It's "giving" them our tax dollars when they don't pay it back, moron... the same exact way we would give welfare to someone, that doesn't pay it back.

I think the sun on the roof tops has baked your little brain a little too long.

12clicks · 07-29-2011, 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc

Damn, you're so poor you actually still pay income tax?

It's "giving" them our tax dollars when they don't pay it back, moron... the same exact way we would give welfare to someone, that doesn't pay it back.

I think the sun on the roof tops has baked your little brain a little too long.

dear rabble, I understand life is bitter for you but we're not talking about your welfare eligibility. In fact, we weren't even talking to you. If you'd like to join the discussion, re-read our posts about haliburton.

or you know, remain as clueless as always.

you choice will not surprise us.

TheDoc · 07-29-2011, 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

dear rabble, I understand life is bitter for you but we're not talking about your welfare eligibility. In fact, we weren't even talking to you. If you'd like to join the discussion, re-read our posts about haliburton.

or you know, remain as clueless as always.

you choice will not surprise us.

Oh yeah, your words hurt so much coming from a day laborer that failed in porn long ago.

Could you point out where you actually discussed anything, anywhere, in this entire thread, about 'anything' other than the spew you always let out? Anywhere, just once, would be great... I need a good laugh and would like to see the blue moon myself.

It must be raining in your neck of the woods.... you're not at work already.

12clicks · 07-29-2011, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc

Oh yeah, your words hurt so much coming from a day laborer that failed in porn long ago.

Could you point out where you actually discussed anything, anywhere, in this entire thread, about 'anything' other than the spew you always let out? Anywhere, just once, would be great... I need a good laugh and would like to see the blue moon myself.

It must be raining in your neck of the woods.... you're not at work already.

as I said, we're not surprised at all.
so much bitterness and you don't even have the pressure of being the bread winner.
seriously son. you should be much more focused on the little picture. Once you have that in order you can waste time on your evil corporations rant.
The intelligent don't care about your idiot thoughts and the idiots who side with you can't help you.

TheDoc · 07-29-2011, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

as I said, we're not surprised at all.
so much bitterness and you don't even have the pressure of being the bread winner.
seriously son. you should be much more focused on the little picture. Once you have that in order you can waste time on your evil corporations rant.
The intelligent don't care about your idiot thoughts and the idiots who side with you can't help you.

Damn, you don't even know what you've said in the last few posts, let alone this thread.

well, that's because your stupidity knows no bounds.

I guess we will never get to see you actually discuss a topic, but no worries champ, you've got the 3rd grader come backs down like nobody else on gfy, and that's something to be proud of!

12clicks · 07-29-2011, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc

Damn, you don't even know what you've said in the last few posts, let alone this thread.

well, that's because your stupidity knows no bounds.

I guess we will never get to see you actually discuss a topic, but no worries champ, you've got the 3rd grader come backs down like nobody else on gfy, and that's something to be proud of!

ouch!
coming from someone of your stature, that really hurts!
thank god for house husbandry, eh?

wig · 07-29-2011, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Tom

More and more people feel they have no representation under the current system. Why pay taxes when you have no representation? Kind of rings a bell.

Only an option if you actually pay taxes, but also live paycheck to paycheck and therefore have nothing really to lose.

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wig · 07-29-2011, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Connor

The economic conditions in different countries aren't always the same, to state the obvious... so with Canada, it works pretty well because living conditions in Canada and the U.S. aren't too far apart. But when you consider countries without these living conditions ... like Mexico ... free trade allows large American corporations to effectively set up shop in these countries and leech off of the cheap labor there. This costs jobs in places where the labor force can't accept such low wages because of the cost of living. It seems to me that the end result from all this "free trade" is a reversal of all the standard of living increases that were hard won on the backs of early labor unions. Whether you feel labor unions went too far or not ... I don't think many people here want to go back to the labor conditions chronicled in, for example, The Grapes of Wrath.

Isn't it interesting that 50+ years ago a middle class family with a single income in America (and I'm assuming Canada too) could meet the basic necessities of life, and even grow a savings account and enjoy the occasional vacation. Now, you can accomplish the same with two incomes. That's not a horrible fate, especially given houses are better now and we have more comforts, but it's still a step back -- and it requires people in that position to depend on someone other than themselves. But unchecked free trade, I believe, threatens to put even that situation in jeopardy.

If I am competing with someone in another under-developed country for the same job, and that person shares a house with 8 other people in his family -- who can afford to accept the lowest wage, him or me? So my only response then is to downgrade my quality of life, unless I'm one of the fortunate who get to live an elite life of power afforded by the corporations who are pursuing all this shit.

Have you given any consideration to all the impacts of Comparative Advantage? Mainstream economics contends that there is more gains than losses. It seems your analysis is one dimensional, narrow and is missing part of the equation.

It also seems your make the leap to connect free-trade with quality of life changes as if they are directly related. Aren?t there other factors that impact why a certain % of families have dual incomes, no savings, higher debt or whatever other observation one may cite?

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drmadcat · 07-29-2011, 10:04 AM

crockett · 07-29-2011, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc

I think everyone here will love this....

Dennis Kucinich

Heh, the problem is he actually makes sense but that doesn't go far in Washington. Then again for all I know it's typical 30 second sound bite and they guy probably gets millions from big business pickle farmers or some shit.

wig · 07-29-2011, 03:16 PM

Yes, it was a rhetorical question. :-)

Of course, what you describe is correct -- generally speaking anyway.

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davecummings · 07-29-2011, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by davecummings

I am, and have been for many years, a registered Libertarian; I vote in every election; I have no potential solutions to offer, but I hope somehow a magic wand appears and make my next paragraph happen.

I wish politicians would stop being political and making everything they do be intended to help their Re-election. Instead, they should work hard for the best thing for America, not a political party or their re-election:-(. I wish we had 2-5 year term limits for ALL offices at ALL levels, thus letting us get real "work" out of those elected, instead of subjective politics. Heck, with the aforementioned, we might even entice more qualified candidates to run for office, work hard for the good of America, and chuck politics/lobbying/re-election subjectivity/etc aside!?

We need quality, hardworking, honest, NON-POLITICAL, rational, and down-to-earth legislators and elected officials -----IMO, Connor is someone I would definitely vote for if he ran for office (in fact, ANY office at any level!). He's the type of person America needs!

NETbilling · 07-29-2011, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ajrocks

He came into office after biggest idiot in the world ran your country into the ground. Now you blame the guy after him? It doesn't matter who is in power now, or what they do, you can't come back from this.

We can come back but it will take more time, money and some big changes.

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