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Old 07-29-2011, 03:17 PM   #1
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It's funny even now 2011 most script suck.

In fact in my experience wordpress is the only I can some what trust.

zencart, oscommerce, all are hackable now.

No dating scripts are worth anything that I can find.

Tube and social scripts are all spam field trips.

News scripts are garbage

I was going to do a page rank script and it sucked after $100 of coding and then google blocked me shortly after anyways.

It's just amazing how hard it is to get a decent script and have some actually support it long term.
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Old 07-29-2011, 03:56 PM   #2
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I agree. I upgraded to the new php a couple weeks ago and it completely broke a script I had on a site.
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Old 07-29-2011, 04:31 PM   #3
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most people gave up on making free scripts and no one is buying software
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Old 07-29-2011, 04:34 PM   #4
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I agree. I upgraded to the new php a couple weeks ago and it completely broke a script I had on a site.
Jeez what a shitty script. It can't even predict the future or anything

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Old 07-29-2011, 04:44 PM   #5
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zencart, oscommerce, all are hackable now.

It's just amazing how hard it is to get a decent script and have some actually support it long term.
You're an idiot.

Zen Cart releases security updates immediately if there is any known vulnerability, and they release new updates that keep improving on security.

Go try and hack an up-to-date Zen Cart...

ALL good scripts need to constantly be updated.

Zen Cart IS constantly upgraded.

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Or perhaps you meant:

Why can nobody give me a free script that is 100% un-hackable, updates itself when advances in technology are made, and makes me billions of dollars because it's so genius.
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Old 07-29-2011, 04:59 PM   #6
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agreed, most scripts do suck. Most "programmers" these days have never taken a single class nor read a book without "for dummies" in the title.

I hate to tell you I've found the Wordpress devs to be among the worst for security. I reported the same bug repeatedly for over a year sa nd they just couldn't understand the simple problem. Only after thousands of sites were hacked did one of them get it.
They just have the wrong mindset, assuming that all input is friendly and everything will always be just as they assumed it would be.
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Old 07-29-2011, 07:02 PM   #7
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Now is the time for All good scripts to come to the aid of their country.
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Old 07-29-2011, 07:25 PM   #8
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Nobody wants to pay, so there is no incentive to make something good to sell?

Free is great until it's 2011 and everything for free sucks.


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Old 07-29-2011, 08:06 PM   #9
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Jeez what a shitty script. It can't even predict the future or anything
it wasn't even a major upgrade, it was like 5.3.1 to 5.3.6
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Old 07-29-2011, 08:23 PM   #10
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Jeez what a shitty script. It can't even predict the future or anything
Zend deprecates things about five years before they remove them, so the author had five years warning. Yesterday I saw a new script using a dangerous function that was deprecated four years ago. Simple cluelessness on the part if the author.
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Old 07-29-2011, 08:33 PM   #11
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I was going to do a page rank script and it sucked after $100 of coding and then google blocked me shortly after.

A custom system that you are betting your Google rep on?
Sounds like the type of project that needs a couple hundred dollars worth of design before any coding starts.

Off the shelf software should be done right. If someone is going to offer it for sale, they should first make the R&D and testing investment. For custom systems, on the other hand, there aren't a thousand other users sharing design, R&D and testing costs, so the purchaser should be prepared to pay those. If you don't pay for design, R&D, and testing, don't expect there to be any. If you just pay for an hour of code monkey time expect to get something that hasn't been designed as a proper system and hasn't been properly unit tested.
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Old 07-29-2011, 10:59 PM   #12
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Old 08-02-2011, 11:48 AM   #13
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So which one of those did you pay for?

See the thing is everybody wants the scripts for free. Nobody is willing to pay. Programmers can't pay their rents on 'Download counts'.

Hey landlady, I have no money, but 100,000 people downloaded my script this month!
Most of my scripts I have paid for, and more after on changes and tweaks.

Still just a waste in the end when the script breaks or becomes outdated.

I wish paying for a script means it's better but in my 12 years of making websites only two or three scripts have held up. And two of them where free.
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Old 08-02-2011, 12:19 PM   #14
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In fact in my experience wordpress is the only I can some what trust.

zencart, oscommerce, all are hackable now.

No dating scripts are worth anything that I can find.

Tube and social scripts are all spam field trips.

News scripts are garbage

I was going to do a page rank script and it sucked after $100 of coding and then google blocked me shortly after anyways.

It's just amazing how hard it is to get a decent script and have some actually support it long term.
you get what you pay for
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Old 08-02-2011, 12:33 PM   #15
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