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brassmonkey · 08-02-2011, 07:09 AM

one day this shit will end

people will become tired.

Eleven-year-old aspiring veterinarian, Skylar Capo, sprang into action the second she learned that a baby woodpecker in her Dad's backyard was about to be eaten by the family cat.

"I've just always loved animals," said Skylar Capo. "I couldn't stand to watch it be eaten."

Skylar couldn't find the woodpecker's mother, so she brought it to her own mother, Alison Capo, who agreed to take it home.

"She was just going to take care of it for a day or two, make sure it was safe and uninjured, and then she was going to let it go," said Capo.

But on the drive home, the Capo family stopped at this Lowes and they brought the bird inside because of the heat. That's when they were confronted by a woman from the Department of Fish and Wildlife.

"She was really nervous. She was shaking. Then she pulled out a badge," said Capo.

The problem was that the woodpecker is a protected species under the Federal Migratory Bird Act. Therefore, it's illegal to take or transport a baby woodpecker. The Capo's say they had no idea.

"I was a little bit upset because I didn't want my mom to get in trouble," said Skylar.

So as soon as the Capo's got home, they opened the cage, the bird flew away, and they reported it to the Department of Fish and Wildlife.

"They said that's great, that's exactly what we want to see," said Capo. "We thought that we had done everything that we could possibly do."

But two weeks later, that same woman from the Department of Fish and Wildlife showed up at the Capo's front door. This time, Capo says she was accompanied by a state trooper. Alison Capo was cited for unlawfully taking a migratory bird and now she's been slapped with a $535 fine.

"I feel harassed and I feel angry," said Capo.

"Kids should be able to save a baby bird and not end up going home crying because their mom has to pay $535. I just think that's crazy," said Skylar.

9NEWS NOW has tried repeatedly to contact the Department of Fish and Wildlife. So far, they have not returned any of our calls. If convicted, Capo could face up to a year behind bars.

sperbonzo · 08-02-2011, 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

one day this shit will end

people will become tired.

Eleven-year-old aspiring veterinarian, Skylar Capo, sprang into action the second she learned that a baby woodpecker in her Dad's backyard was about to be eaten by the family cat.

"I've just always loved animals," said Skylar Capo. "I couldn't stand to watch it be eaten."

Skylar couldn't find the woodpecker's mother, so she brought it to her own mother, Alison Capo, who agreed to take it home.

"She was just going to take care of it for a day or two, make sure it was safe and uninjured, and then she was going to let it go," said Capo.

But on the drive home, the Capo family stopped at this Lowes and they brought the bird inside because of the heat. That's when they were confronted by a woman from the Department of Fish and Wildlife.

"She was really nervous. She was shaking. Then she pulled out a badge," said Capo.

The problem was that the woodpecker is a protected species under the Federal Migratory Bird Act. Therefore, it's illegal to take or transport a baby woodpecker. The Capo's say they had no idea.

"I was a little bit upset because I didn't want my mom to get in trouble," said Skylar.

So as soon as the Capo's got home, they opened the cage, the bird flew away, and they reported it to the Department of Fish and Wildlife.

"They said that's great, that's exactly what we want to see," said Capo. "We thought that we had done everything that we could possibly do."

But two weeks later, that same woman from the Department of Fish and Wildlife showed up at the Capo's front door. This time, Capo says she was accompanied by a state trooper. Alison Capo was cited for unlawfully taking a migratory bird and now she's been slapped with a $535 fine.

"I feel harassed and I feel angry," said Capo.

"Kids should be able to save a baby bird and not end up going home crying because their mom has to pay $535. I just think that's crazy," said Skylar.

9NEWS NOW has tried repeatedly to contact the Department of Fish and Wildlife. So far, they have not returned any of our calls. If convicted, Capo could face up to a year behind bars.

...And people all want to belittle the Tea Party types for trying to make the Federal Government less powerful.....

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L-Pink · 08-02-2011, 07:20 AM

That's why I keep it to myself when I have barbecued bald eagle. Tastes like chicken by the way ......

brassmonkey · 08-02-2011, 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink

That's why I keep it to myself when I have barbecued bald eagle. Tastes like chicken by the way ......

i went fishing i thought i was going to have to kill one. he was getting pretty close maybe he was hungry. their pretty big so i get my mossberg ready.

wehateporn · 08-02-2011, 07:41 AM

The US Gov don't care about the bird, they just want the $535

dyna mo · 08-02-2011, 07:48 AM

fuck woodpeckers.

we don't need no fucking woodpeckers.

protected species under the Federal Migratory Bird Act? fuck that.

and furthermore, ignorance of the law should be a valid defense.

i didn't know that, your honor.

oh, no worries then, carry on. and fuck woodpeckers.

potter · 08-02-2011, 07:51 AM

I love people that use edge scenarios like this to try and prove a point.

The .gov did nothing wrong in this case. Yes, it sucks for the family - but that's life. Ignorance is NOT an excuse for breaking the law. The government cannot simply start ignoring laws because the criminals didn't know about the law, and tried to make things right. Because then the whole system is fucked and there isn't any point to it all. Think of someone stealing something, they get caught, so the criminal says "oops, I didn't know" and returns the item. So now that's an excuse? Now that makes it ok? No, it doesn't. The law NEEDS to be black and white. You break it, you pay the price. You start creating a grey area for people like the above, and all that does is open up a grey area for serious criminals. Which is not acceptable.

potter · 08-02-2011, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

fuck woodpeckers.

we don't need no fucking woodpeckers.

protected species under the Federal Migratory Bird Act? fuck that.

and furthermore, ignorance of the law should be a valid defense.

i didn't know that, your honor.

oh, no worries then, carry on. and fuck woodpeckers.

brassmonkey · 08-02-2011, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by potter

I love people that use edge scenarios like this to try and prove a point.

The .gov did nothing wrong in this case. Yes, it sucks for the family - but that's life. Ignorance is NOT an excuse for breaking the law. The government cannot simply start ignoring laws because the criminals didn't know about the law, and tried to make things right. Because then the whole system is fucked and there isn't any point to it all. Think of someone stealing something, they get caught, so the criminal says "oops, I didn't know" and returns the item. So now that's an excuse? Now that makes it ok? No, it doesn't. The law NEEDS to be black and white. You break it, you pay the price. You start creating a grey area for people like the above, and all that does is open up a grey area for serious criminals. Which is not acceptable.

well funny how the goverment is blocking sb1070 knowing that there is a big problem

grey area my ass.

Sly · 08-02-2011, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by potter

I love people that use edge scenarios like this to try and prove a point.

The .gov did nothing wrong in this case. Yes, it sucks for the family - but that's life. Ignorance is NOT an excuse for breaking the law. The government cannot simply start ignoring laws because the criminals didn't know about the law, and tried to make things right. Because then the whole system is fucked and there isn't any point to it all. Think of someone stealing something, they get caught, so the criminal says "oops, I didn't know" and returns the item. So now that's an excuse? Now that makes it ok? No, it doesn't. The law NEEDS to be black and white. You break it, you pay the price. You start creating a grey area for people like the above, and all that does is open up a grey area for serious criminals. Which is not acceptable.

The law is not black and white. People like to claim that it is, but it's not.

You know something, you get off. The prosecutor has another agenda, you get off. You know the right person, you get off.

Going after someone that legitimately tried to do something good "in the name of the law" is an abuse of power and goes against any shred of common sense. There was no malice. No ill intent. And the "guilty party" resolved the situation when informed of the law. No harm was done.

dyna mo · 08-02-2011, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Sly

The law is not black and white. People like to claim that it is, but it's not.

You know something, you get off. The prosecutor has another agenda, you get off. You know the right person, you get off.

Going after someone that legitimately tried to do something good "in the name of the law" is an abuse of power and goes against any shred of common sense. There was no malice. No ill intent. And the "guilty party" resolved the situation when informed of the law. No harm was done.

that's not up to the bureaucrat issuing the citation. just like speeding. you get a citation, you are more than free to defend yourself in a court of law and a jury of your peers can decide.

that's the system as i understand it.

sperbonzo · 08-02-2011, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

that's not up to the bureaucrat issuing the citation. just like speeding. you get a citation, you are more than free to defend yourself in a court of law and a jury of your peers can decide.

that's the system as i understand it.

The Prosecuters office has discretion as to what it pushes forward with and what it does not. Notice how the Federal Agents are refusing to enforce immigration laws?

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potter · 08-02-2011, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

well funny how the goverment is blocking sb1070 knowing that there is a big problem

grey area my ass.

96ukssob · 08-02-2011, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink

That's why I keep it to myself when I have barbecued bald eagle. Tastes like chicken by the way ......

Ben Franklin wanted the national bird to be the turkey

Phoenix · 08-02-2011, 08:09 AM

you know who is at fault here?

the fishing and game warden...she was not able to use any sort of reasonable (judgement/judgment) ? spelling....anyway, she handled the situation poorly i think. She should have recognized what was going on, and then tried to educate the little girl. She could have even commended her for trying to help the animal, i think its a girls guide badge for christs sake..lol

The law is there to defend the woodpeckers, not to empower some moron who was shaking mad at a rona store.

brassmonkey · 08-02-2011, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo

The Prosecuters office has discretion as to what it pushes forward with and what it does not. Notice how the Federal Agents are refusing to enforce immigration laws?

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that's just the surface the judge also stated that the known illegals can still work.

brassmonkey · 08-02-2011, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by bossku69

Ben Franklin wanted the national bird to be the turkey

wasn't he making a sandwich around that time?

dyna mo · 08-02-2011, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo

The Prosecuters office has discretion as to what it pushes forward with and what it does not. Notice how the Federal Agents are refusing to enforce immigration laws?

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unemployment in mexico is ~4.5%, i'd be looking for mexico to be building a wall soon.

sperbonzo · 08-02-2011, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

unemployment in mexico is ~4.5%, i'd be looking for mexico to be building a wall soon.

The Mexican Government is already very strict in it's laws and treatment of illegals in their country.

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Sly · 08-02-2011, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

that's not up to the bureaucrat issuing the citation. just like speeding. you get a citation, you are more than free to defend yourself in a court of law and a jury of your peers can decide.

that's the system as i understand it.

Wow, did you really use speeding as your example? People get off for speeding and a wide range of infractions nonstop. Let's start a poll asking the women of GFY how often they've gotten out of speeding tickets or other traffic violations.

Citations, tickets, fines, violations... they don't go by the book. Maybe they should in order to be "fair." But pretending that they do is laughable. They are all based on the discretion of the issuer.

Rochard · 08-02-2011, 08:33 AM

So what the fuck is the problem here?

The people of the United States passed a law. Someone somewhere thought it was a good idea to have the woodpecker be a protected species. (When was the last time you saw a fucking woodpecker? Exactly) She violated the law by taking a protected species, putting it into a cage, and transporting it. She claims that she was "trying to save it" by removing it and protecting it from the cat, but that's irrelevant. She obviously cannot prove the cat was going to attack the woodpecker, and it sounds like a very fucking convenient excuse for breaking the law.

She broke a stupid fucking law and gets a stupid fucking fine, end of story.

dyna mo · 08-02-2011, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Sly

Wow, did you really use speeding as your example? People get off for speeding and a wide range of infractions nonstop. Let's start a poll asking the women of GFY how often they've gotten out of speeding tickets or other traffic violations.

Citations, tickets, fines, violations... they don't go by the book. Maybe they should in order to be "fair." But pretending that they do is laughable. They are all based on the discretion of the issuer.

thanks for proving my point. i never said anything about "going by the book".

what i did say is the system is set-up for a defendant to be tried in court. not at the point of the citation being issued. if the bureaucrat let's you go with a warning or decides to not issue a citation is not a violation of the system.

you can start any poll you wish.

Vendzilla · 08-02-2011, 08:43 AM

LMAO, Ignorance of the law is not an excuse, Fuck You

California had 725 new laws on the books for 2011

Virginia had 900

Do you know all these laws?

Shit, they pass so many laws in hopes of no one noticing I think

JamesGw · 08-02-2011, 08:44 AM

That game warden was on a power trip.

sperbonzo · 08-02-2011, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla

LMAO, Ignorance of the law is not an excuse, Fuck You

California had 725 new laws on the books for 2011

Virginia had 900

Do you know all these laws?

Shit, they pass so many laws in hopes of no one noticing I think

+1

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Sly · 08-02-2011, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

thanks for proving my point. i never said anything about "going by the book".

what i did say is the system is set-up for a defendant to be tried in court. not at the point of the citation being issued. if the bureaucrat let's you go with a warning or decides to not issue a citation is not a violation of the system.

you can start any poll you wish.

So your point was that inconsistent law enforcement is okay so long that the accused can stand in front of a judge?

jollyperv · 08-02-2011, 08:55 AM

dyna mo · 08-02-2011, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Sly

So your point was that inconsistent law enforcement is okay so long that the accused can stand in front of a judge?

inconsistent law enforcement? i never said that. law enforcement consists of human beings. it's nonsense to hold them to a higher standard simply because they have a badge.

fact is, your comment is exactly how the system works. lindsay lohen gets a deal, i don't. i understand that and live my life accordingly.

brassmonkey · 08-02-2011, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by jollyperv

that was funny when he thought he killed it.

astronaut x · 08-02-2011, 10:18 AM

Lets say your average american is person who works at wal mart, which is probably true by the way.

They cant even get a union in wal mart.

I dont think wal mart even has predator drones.

an uprising....LOL!!!

marketsmart · 08-02-2011, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla

LMAO, Ignorance of the law is not an excuse, Fuck You

California had 725 new laws on the books for 2011

Virginia had 900

Do you know all these laws?

Shit, they pass so many laws in hopes of no one noticing I think

you're lazy...

as a good american, i make sure i learn every new law passed in every state...

i thought you were a good american too?

i guess not...

how do you feel about woman being allowed for sub duty?

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marketsmart · 08-02-2011, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

unemployment in mexico is ~4.5%, i'd be looking for mexico to be building a wall soon.

where did you get that figure?

please dont tell me you went to tiajuana last weekend and came to your figure based on all the kids selling gum or playing guitar for tips?

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dyna mo · 08-02-2011, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by marketsmart

where did you get that figure?

please dont tell me you went to tiajuana last weekend and came to your figure based on all the kids selling gum or playing guitar for tips?

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plenty of kids sellign chicklets so i know there is work there.

actually, the whole post was a knock-off of a leno joke from last nite, the set-up, everything.

brassmonkey · 08-02-2011, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

unemployment in mexico is ~4.5%, i'd be looking for mexico to be building a wall soon.

$2/ hr jobs working in a factory making products for americans

dyna mo · 08-02-2011, 10:38 AM

i lolled.

TheSquealer · 08-02-2011, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

$2/ hr jobs working in a factory making products for americans

a country full of inept and corrupt fucks who can't make their own country function properly since its creation.

IllTestYourGirls · 08-02-2011, 11:42 AM

Get informed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jury_nullification

brassmonkey · 08-02-2011, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer

a country full of inept and corrupt fucks who can't make their own country function properly since its creation.

you could barely make gas and lunch money

and with 15 kids omg

brassmonkey · 08-02-2011, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls

Get informed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jury_nullification

IllTestYourGirls · 08-02-2011, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

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When a jury thinks the law is being wrongly applied or that the law itself is unjust they can still find the defendant not guilty.

kane · 08-02-2011, 12:05 PM

I think this is less a case of the government being overreaching and more a case of one person being an asshole.

08-02-2011, 07:09 AM	#1
brassmonkey Pay It Forward Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Yo Mama House Posts: 76,936	United States Gov. one day this shit will end people will become tired. Eleven-year-old aspiring veterinarian, Skylar Capo, sprang into action the second she learned that a baby woodpecker in her Dad's backyard was about to be eaten by the family cat. "I've just always loved animals," said Skylar Capo. "I couldn't stand to watch it be eaten." Skylar couldn't find the woodpecker's mother, so she brought it to her own mother, Alison Capo, who agreed to take it home. "She was just going to take care of it for a day or two, make sure it was safe and uninjured, and then she was going to let it go," said Capo. But on the drive home, the Capo family stopped at this Lowes and they brought the bird inside because of the heat. That's when they were confronted by a woman from the Department of Fish and Wildlife. "She was really nervous. She was shaking. Then she pulled out a badge," said Capo. The problem was that the woodpecker is a protected species under the Federal Migratory Bird Act. Therefore, it's illegal to take or transport a baby woodpecker. The Capo's say they had no idea. "I was a little bit upset because I didn't want my mom to get in trouble," said Skylar. So as soon as the Capo's got home, they opened the cage, the bird flew away, and they reported it to the Department of Fish and Wildlife. "They said that's great, that's exactly what we want to see," said Capo. "We thought that we had done everything that we could possibly do." But two weeks later, that same woman from the Department of Fish and Wildlife showed up at the Capo's front door. This time, Capo says she was accompanied by a state trooper. Alison Capo was cited for unlawfully taking a migratory bird and now she's been slapped with a $535 fine. "I feel harassed and I feel angry," said Capo. "Kids should be able to save a baby bird and not end up going home crying because their mom has to pay $535. I just think that's crazy," said Skylar. 9NEWS NOW has tried repeatedly to contact the Department of Fish and Wildlife. So far, they have not returned any of our calls. If convicted, Capo could face up to a year behind bars. __________________ TRUMP 2025 KEKAW!!! - Support The Laken Riley Act!!! END DACA - SUPPORT AZ HCR 2060 52R - email: brassballz-at-techie.com

08-02-2011, 07:41 AM	#5
wehateporn Promoting Debate on GFY Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 27,173	The US Gov don't care about the bird, they just want the $535 __________________ Sexy Girls Teasing

08-02-2011, 07:51 AM	#7
potter Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Denver Posts: 6,559	I love people that use edge scenarios like this to try and prove a point. The .gov did nothing wrong in this case. Yes, it sucks for the family - but that's life. Ignorance is NOT an excuse for breaking the law. The government cannot simply start ignoring laws because the criminals didn't know about the law, and tried to make things right. Because then the whole system is fucked and there isn't any point to it all. Think of someone stealing something, they get caught, so the criminal says "oops, I didn't know" and returns the item. So now that's an excuse? Now that makes it ok? No, it doesn't. The law NEEDS to be black and white. You break it, you pay the price. You start creating a grey area for people like the above, and all that does is open up a grey area for serious criminals. Which is not acceptable. __________________

08-02-2011, 08:09 AM	#15
Phoenix BACON BACON BACON Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Poems everybody, the laddie fancies himself a poet Posts: 35,457	you know who is at fault here? the fishing and game warden...she was not able to use any sort of reasonable (judgement/judgment) ? spelling....anyway, she handled the situation poorly i think. She should have recognized what was going on, and then tried to educate the little girl. She could have even commended her for trying to help the animal, i think its a girls guide badge for christs sake..lol The law is there to defend the woodpeckers, not to empower some moron who was shaking mad at a rona store. __________________ Skype Phoenixskype1 Telegram PhoenixBrad https://quantads.io

08-02-2011, 08:33 AM	#21
Rochard Jägermeister Test Pilot Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: NORCAL Posts: 72,857	So what the fuck is the problem here? The people of the United States passed a law. Someone somewhere thought it was a good idea to have the woodpecker be a protected species. (When was the last time you saw a fucking woodpecker? Exactly) She violated the law by taking a protected species, putting it into a cage, and transporting it. She claims that she was "trying to save it" by removing it and protecting it from the cat, but that's irrelevant. She obviously cannot prove the cat was going to attack the woodpecker, and it sounds like a very fucking convenient excuse for breaking the law. She broke a stupid fucking law and gets a stupid fucking fine, end of story. __________________ “The choice is no longer between right or left. The choice is between normal and crazy.” - Sarah Huckabee Sanders YNOT MAIL \| THE BEST ADULT MAILING SOLUTION

08-02-2011, 07:20 AM	#3
L-Pink working on my tan Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Florida/Kentucky Posts: 39,152	That's why I keep it to myself when I have barbecued bald eagle. Tastes like chicken by the way ......

08-02-2011, 07:48 AM	#6
dyna mo The People's Post Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: invisible 7-11 Posts: 63,911	fuck woodpeckers. we don't need no fucking woodpeckers. protected species under the Federal Migratory Bird Act? fuck that. and furthermore, ignorance of the law should be a valid defense. i didn't know that, your honor. oh, no worries then, carry on. and fuck woodpeckers.

08-02-2011, 08:43 AM	#23
Vendzilla Biker Gnome Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: cell#324 Posts: 23,201	LMAO, Ignorance of the law is not an excuse, Fuck You California had 725 new laws on the books for 2011 Virginia had 900 Do you know all these laws? Shit, they pass so many laws in hopes of no one noticing I think __________________ Webair died? Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants think about that

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08-02-2011, 10:18 AM	#30
astronaut x Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: May 2011 Location: From this www and beyond! Posts: 4,844	Lets say your average american is person who works at wal mart, which is probably true by the way. They cant even get a union in wal mart. I dont think wal mart even has predator drones. an uprising....LOL!!!

08-02-2011, 10:38 AM	#35
dyna mo The People's Post Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: invisible 7-11 Posts: 63,911	i lolled.

08-02-2011, 11:42 AM	#37
IllTestYourGirls Ah My Balls Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Under the gold leaf ICQ 388-454-421 Posts: 14,311	Get informed. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jury_nullification __________________

08-02-2011, 12:05 PM	#41
kane Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: portland, OR Posts: 20,684	I think this is less a case of the government being overreaching and more a case of one person being an asshole.