Don't lose your time submitting watermarked videos to tube sites!!!

[Crazy Enough]

Hy folks,

I have something to share with you! For the past few months, I was working on something:

I was submitting watermarked videos to tube sites.

I realize that there are only two tube sites that can generate an extreme source of traffic! They are XVIDEOS and Tube8. All others are a piece of shit because they will delete your videos in a matter of hours or days like TNA Flix do, or they will keep your videos out of the home / category pages so the videos will not generate almost any views / traffic (PornHub, RedTube).

My websites have received a lot of traffic, but the sales aren't increased.

So based on my experience I have to say that submitting watermarked videos with the url of your website to popular tube sites will generate CRAP TRAFFIC that doesn't convert at all.

People that are on the tube sites already have free content, even with bad quality, but they don't care. Who are most concerned about the quality will download full movies through torrent.

I'm not saying that porn is dead, but the source of traffic must be good in order to convert in sales.

The question is, what is a good source of traffic? How can I identify that?

By the way, I'm receiving 50% of that traffic from the USA, and the other 50% from several countries.

Some videos that I've submitted have received more than 200k views...

Anyway, this experience made me stop promoting pay sites and invest more in dating / cams.

[Agent 488]

well what sites were you sending them to? how many type in? what kind of lander?

[Diomed]

Ga ga ga genius...

[Captain Kawaii]

Time better spent stealing other peoples content then making a deal with Playboy...

[Goldmaniacs]

the secret is to edit the video just right, this way they visit and sign up to your paysite

[lazycash]

Originally Posted by Goldmaniacs

the secret is to edit the video just right, this way they visit and sign up to your paysite

What are some of your editing techniques for maximizing clickthroughs?

[Jayvis]

I've heard this same thing from plenty of my own affiliates. You're definitely not alone but honestly what did you expect from tube traffic? I would suggest building organic traffic with your own blogs. Is it going to be anywhere near the volume you're receiving rather easily now? Definitely not, but at least you'll be getting qualified visitors that are far more likely to be willing to pay. Just my good luck either way.

[papill0n]

how many typeins have you actually got from the traffic ?

where are you sending it ?

does the landing page match the niche of the video ?

how is your sales pitch ? does this sales pitch sell for your other traffic sources ?

Brazilian girls are awesome - you got a sister ?

[Agent 488]

Originally Posted by Goldmaniacs

the secret is to edit the video just right, this way they visit and sign up to your paysite

how you do that?

[Bill8]

I think we've all seen the videos that are edited to drive signups.

They take a video, chop chunks out of it to jump from scene to scene, running the series of scenes up to a part short of the scene's best hook.

Then they cut off the end. Whatever the niche is, they take the ultimate niche scene and play half - then the vid ends.

The experience of teh video sends the implied message to the viewer that they can see the good parts somewhere - and you hope they will sign up to finish the experience.

[JohnRingo]

thinking someone on a tube site with access to tons of free videos is going to type in an address url is assinine

[Cash4Me]

Originally Posted by Pussy Lover

The question is, what is a good source of traffic? How can I identify that?

Simple, any source with users in "buying mode" and tube sites are not this kind of source.
Think about ROI when you search a source and not simply raw numbers of users.
I prefer 1k users in buying mode than 100k tube users.

[Vjo]

The bigger the free site the shittier the traffic.

Pretty much holds true. But since they got a LOT of shitty traffic something sells.

Or some THING sells...

Anyone want to buy popunders?

[Agent 488]

Originally Posted by JohnRingo

thinking someone on a tube site with access to tons of free videos is going to type in an address url is assinine

and yet they do.

[GetSCORECash]

Originally Posted by Jayvis

You're definitely not alone but honestly what did you expect from tube traffic? I would suggest building organic traffic with your own blogs. Is it going to be anywhere near the volume you're receiving rather easily now? Definitely not, but at least you'll be getting qualified visitors that are far more likely to be willing to pay. Just my good luck either way.

As suggested above.

[AdultKing]

Originally Posted by Pussy Lover

The question is, what is a good source of traffic? How can I identify that?

Google, followed a long way back by Yahoo and Bing,is the best source of targeted traffic that converts.

A good strategy to start with is to go get Market Samurai then learn how to use this excellent tool to target long tail keywords which get continual traffic. Keep repeating the cycle and before you know it you will have a site with 20,000 visitors a month who are actually looking for what you are offering them. These people are much more likely to become sales as they have been actively seeking what you are offering. Just make sure your keywords are relevant to what you're promoting and it's like shooting fish in a barrel.

This is a much better strategy than throwing shitty traffic at a site where the visitors already know where to get what they want for free.

It amazes me how many people seem to miss out on this simple and reliable way to get quality FREE traffic. I should run an online course on this.

[2MuchMark]

Tube sites are simply "too sticky". It is much easier for a user to click a link to see the next video vs stopping what he was doing to type in your domain name.

[lazycash]

Originally Posted by **********

Tube sites are simply "too sticky". It is much easier for a user to click a link to see the next video vs stopping what he was doing to type in your domain name.

Exactly, the average tube surfer has one hand on his cock and the other on his mouse. You better have a damn enticing way of putting your url on the video to make him take his hand off his cock and type in your domain. Simply watermarking your video usually isn't enough.

[Jack Sparrow]

You guys are all doing it wrong.

Its amazing how easy it is to get sales from tube sites, even those with full time videos on them. If you cant figure that out, you might as well say "porn is dead" but add "for me" to that line.

[AdultKing]

Originally Posted by Jack Sparrow

You guys are all doing it wrong.

Its amazing how easy it is to get sales from tube sites, even those with full time videos on them. If you cant figure that out, you might as well say "porn is dead" but add "for me" to that line.

This is why your masters are selling advertising rather than keeping all this wonderful traffic to monetize for themselves.

If you can demonstrate tube traffic working better than targeted search traffic for the affiliate programs most people on GFY promote then go for it, until then you're blowing smoke.

[mamaliga]

Originally Posted by Jack Sparrow

You guys are all doing it wrong.

Its amazing how easy it is to get sales from tube sites, even those with full time videos on them. If you cant figure that out, you might as well say "porn is dead" but add "for me" to that line.

Ideed, if you do not sell memberships

[margarita]

If you fail in one thing sometimes it can be your fault.

[Jack Sparrow]

Originally Posted by AdultKing

This is why your masters are selling advertising rather than keeping all this wonderful traffic to monetize for themselves.

If you can demonstrate tube traffic working better than targeted search traffic for the affiliate programs most people on GFY promote then go for it, until then you're blowing smoke.

You are once again mistaken.

We do not sell all adspot, we use a lot of them to promote programs on a pps or revshare basis. Maybe you should ask around a bit before jumping to conclusions

There are many reasons to sell adspace. If you dont know them, learn them.

I could post screenshots of proof all day long, and we all know what the general reply would be here on gfy.

[Lykos]

That's just one way to get some traffic..
I know some ppl for which it worls.

[AdultKing]

Originally Posted by Jack Sparrow

You are once again mistaken.

We do not sell all adspot, we use a lot of them to promote programs on a pps or revshare basis. Maybe you should ask around a bit before jumping to conclusions

I am not mistaken. I said your masters sold advertising. I didn't say that they did this exclusively. Do not misquote me. The point I was making was that if it was so profitable why would you sell it ?

There are many reasons to sell adspace. If you dont know them, learn them.

Monetization for profit and spreading the revenue streams around would be the obvious choice. If there is some other magic formula then it is lost on me.

I could post screenshots of proof all day long, and we all know what the general reply would be here on gfy.

Nobody asked for screen shots of anything. Simply asked that you back up your statement. Now rather than blow smoke, as you are so good doing, why not post a tangible example of how the average webmaster promoting affiliate programs can make a profit from tube traffic.

[Jack Sparrow]

Why should i. You obviously have no clue and im obviously not going to help you out. Again, why should i?

The magic formula isnt that magically, its pretty simple if you know how to do what.

People that do biz with us know how to make big cash from our network of tubes, while the bunch of you are crying about tubes.

[AdultKing]

Originally Posted by Jack Sparrow

Why should i. You obviously have no clue and im obviously not going to help you out. Again, why should i?

The magic formula isnt that magically, its pretty simple if you know how to do what.

People that do biz with us know how to make big cash from our network of tubes, while the bunch of you are crying about tubes.

Frisky, you're selling tube traffic, so it's obvious you'll blow smoke about how good tube traffic is, it's your job. It's totally understandable - however - you can not sit their straight faced and claim that tube traffic is better than targeted search traffic without posting some evidence that contradicts generally accepted fact.

[Paul Markham]

Lot of truth here.

Originally Posted by **********

Tube sites are simply "too sticky". It is much easier for a user to click a link to see the next video vs stopping what he was doing to type in your domain name.

Yes and the video isn't good enough to warrant a type in.

Originally Posted by lazycash

Exactly, the average tube surfer has one hand on his cock and the other on his mouse. You better have a damn enticing way of putting your url on the video to make him take his hand off his cock and type in your domain. Simply watermarking your video usually isn't enough.

Agreed. Amazing me and Lazy agreeing.

Also when the surfer hit's the site it needs to be a lot better than the samples. If you convert 1-100, or dream about doing it, you're losing 99 people interested enough to click to the site. If it's 1-1,000 999. The tour is the place that has the leaks that need to be fixed.

Originally Posted by AdultKing

This is why your masters are selling advertising rather than keeping all this wonderful traffic to monetize for themselves.

If you can demonstrate tube traffic working better than targeted search traffic for the affiliate programs most people on GFY promote then go for it, until then you're blowing smoke.

Most tubes support themselves in someway or another by advertising. Free surfers are worthless. Even a clip with a watermark is an advert.

Jack sells ads on Tubes, so he will talk them up. If Tube sites really converted, you couldn't buy an advert on them. They would all be sending traffic to themselves or to sponsors they signed up with. Adverts are easier, cheaper and more profitable.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by Jack Sparrow

Why should i. You obviously have no clue and im obviously not going to help you out. Again, why should i?

The magic formula isnt that magically, its pretty simple if you know how to do what.

People that do biz with us know how to make big cash from our network of tubes, while the bunch of you are crying about tubes.

You spin some good fables.

If it was that good you wouldn't be selling it in your signature.

Go away and think about it before I make you look foolish.

And if I can do it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[CamTraffic]

I'm not saying that porn is dead, but the source of traffic must be good in order to convert in sales.

Genius!!!!

Tube traffic is Shit, that's why every descent tube site sell their spots on Pre-paid.
Stop Fucking buying it

[AdultKing]

Originally Posted by CamTraffic

Genius!!!!

Tube traffic is Shit, that's why every descent tube site sell their spots on Pre-paid.
Stop Fucking buying it

You know what they say about fools and their money

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by AdultKing

You know what they say about fools and their money

Fools don't have a lot of it. Those with real money aren't fools. Are you admitting only fools by ads on Tubes?

Still waiting for you to realise how you're spinning a myth.

[AdultKing]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Fools don't have a lot of it. Those with real money aren't fools. Are you admitting only fools by ads on Tubes?.

I don't buy ads on tubes so I can't comment for those that do, however if you don't think fools can accumulate money then I think you need to get out more.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by AdultKing

I don't buy ads on tubes so I can't comment for those that do, however if you don't think fools can accumulate money then I think you need to get out more.

The problem is fools might make money, but they don't hang onto it for long.

As for Jack and his BS.

If his statement about advertising on Tubes was right, he wouldn't be able to sell the ads.

Because??????

The Tubes sites would be booked up to the hilt with future bookings. Future bookings would make it unnecessary to have people sell the spots. Even if they keep adding rotating banners there would be a point where it's full.

This ignores the situation of major Tube site owners only sending traffic to their own sites. All the Men's magazines knew the power of telephone sex and advertising the service. Many publications were full of their own adverts. Those who bought space booked it for years to get a small discount. Or to get a place.

[Jack Sparrow]

Originally Posted by AdultKing

Frisky, you're selling tube traffic, so it's obvious you'll blow smoke about how good tube traffic is, it's your job. It's totally understandable - however - you can not sit their straight faced and claim that tube traffic is better than targeted search traffic without posting some evidence that contradicts generally accepted fact.

Where did i say targetted search traffic is better/worse tgen tube traffic? Nowhere...

Any idea what amounts of targetted se traffic big tubes get on a daily basis?

Im selling adspots from our tubes, thats right. And most of them renew their spots every month. Why would that be?

Im also doing a shitload of sales on the spots we dont sell.

If you dont want to believe that its fine with me, i wont be losing any sleep over it.

[Agent 488]

the big tubes are sold out retard. go try and blow you years ad budget on a half hour on pornhub and see.

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

The problem is fools might make money, but they don't hang onto it for long.

As for Jack and his BS.

If his statement about advertising on Tubes was right, he wouldn't be able to sell the ads.

Because??????

The Tubes sites would be booked up to the hilt with future bookings. Future bookings would make it unnecessary to have people sell the spots. Even if they keep adding rotating banners there would be a point where it's full.

This ignores the situation of major Tube site owners only sending traffic to their own sites. All the Men's magazines knew the power of telephone sex and advertising the service. Many publications were full of their own adverts. Those who bought space booked it for years to get a small discount. Or to get a place.

[Agent 488]

most of the tubes in his sig have decent ranking yes.

Originally Posted by Jack Sparrow

Where did i say targetted search traffic is better/worse tgen tube traffic? Nowhere...

Any idea what amounts of targetted se traffic big tubes get on a daily basis?

Im selling adspots from our tubes, thats right. And most of them renew their spots every month. Why would that be?

Im also doing a shitload of sales on the spots we dont sell.

If you dont want to believe that its fine with me, i wont be losing any sleep over it.

[Jack Sparrow]

@the old fart named paul: i guess thats why most companies renew every single month lol.

Are you demented or just really really seriously retarded?

Go sell some papermags from the 80s dude. Please try and make me look stupid, cant wait to have things backfire in your old face lol.

[Agent 488]

if google's traffic is so good why do they have the adwords system? something shady going on there ...

[Jack Sparrow]

Originally Posted by Agent 488

if google's traffic is so good why do they have the adwords system? something shady going on there ...

Lol yeah. Couldnt have worded it better haha.

[JohnRingo]

U want to know how shitty tube traffic is? Look at all the major tubes using juicyads. Lol. Tubes = shit traffic 4 life.

[Jack Sparrow]

Originally Posted by JohnRingo

U want to know how shitty tube traffic is? Look at all the major tubes using juicyads. Lol. Tubes = shit traffic 4 life.

And yet another one to stupid to actually understand how to make money in the year 2011.

I lolleth

[Goldmaniacs]

Could not have put it better myself

Originally Posted by Bill8

I think we've all seen the videos that are edited to drive signups.

They take a video, chop chunks out of it to jump from scene to scene, running the series of scenes up to a part short of the scene's best hook.

Then they cut off the end. Whatever the niche is, they take the ultimate niche scene and play half - then the vid ends.

The experience of teh video sends the implied message to the viewer that they can see the good parts somewhere - and you hope they will sign up to finish the experience.

[signupdamnit]

It would be a lot more meaningful if we could see more of your numbers as well as the videos you are putting up.

I do think you are mostly going for an impulse buy now. Often the content is out there somewhere for free but you are hoping that it will be worth the $30 for people to simply save some time and join instead for a better experience. It's a sliding scale, the harder it is to find decent stuff free without paying the more who will buy.

[Lukke]

Porn is dead.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by Jack Sparrow

@the old fart named paul: i guess thats why most companies renew every single month lol.

Are you demented or just really really seriously retarded?

Go sell some papermags from the 80s dude. Please try and make me look stupid, cant wait to have things backfire in your old face lol.

Idiot.

If they renew every month that's not a great sign.

They're unsure of the value of the ad for longer than a few months. If they forward booked 3, 6, 12 months it would be a great sign.

So "most" companies forward book. Which leaves you space to sell.

The fact that they need you to sell space isn't a good sign. Most advertising personnel in "papermags from the 80s" were little more than order takers. The space was so good it had to be pre booked and selling it wasn't required. It was supplied. The last thing they needed was some person going around trying to sell space.

Yes online ads can be rotated, magazines could of increased pages of adverting, but there's still space to be had and some people don't like it enough to cancel and others don't like it enough to only renew every month. The Tubes could just offer 6 months with a discount which is your cut and then you're not needed.

There was a guy on here recently spamming Tube ads and hitting people up on ICQ. Not a good sign.

[mamaliga]

Originally Posted by Jack Sparrow

And yet another one to stupid to actually understand how to make money in the year 2011.
I lolleth

I must admite i have failed with tubes, myself i cannot even convert the tube traffic to cams or dating ,same shit for membership sites, this is the reason i use only juicy ads. To increase my juicy ads sales i need to build more tubes and this is what i have done.
How did you get sales from your tubes?

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by mamaliga

How did you get sales from your tubes?

From selling ads.

[pornmasta]

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[Agent 488]

you sum up in one post why you will never ever get the internet.

things change so fast on the internet what might sell one week on one site might literally wont the next week. doesn't mean things wont sell next week, but you have to be on top of things and be supple.

what if you bought a year on pornhub and the next day it got banned from google. that wouldn't make you a good businessman, that would make you a fool.


stop trying to use horse and buggy experience in the space age and go finish your puzzle.

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Idiot.

If they renew every month that's not a great sign.

They're unsure of the value of the ad for longer than a few months. If they forward booked 3, 6, 12 months it would be a great sign.

So "most" companies forward book. Which leaves you space to sell.

The fact that they need you to sell space isn't a good sign. Most advertising personnel in "papermags from the 80s" were little more than order takers. The space was so good it had to be pre booked and selling it wasn't required. It was supplied. The last thing they needed was some person going around trying to sell space.

Yes online ads can be rotated, magazines could of increased pages of adverting, but there's still space to be had and some people don't like it enough to cancel and others don't like it enough to only renew every month. The Tubes could just offer 6 months with a discount which is your cut and then you're not needed.

There was a guy on here recently spamming Tube ads and hitting people up on ICQ. Not a good sign.