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Old 08-08-2011, 09:16 AM   #51
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So tube sites DO NOT help people profit in the adult industry?

Dishing out tens of thousands of porn clips in all niches, FOR FREE, doesn't lead to more sign-ups?!

Wow, I'm shocked!


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Old 08-08-2011, 09:26 AM   #52
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lol at frisky saying tube traffic converts amazing while being hired to sell ads spaces on tubes...
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Old 08-08-2011, 09:53 AM   #53
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lol at frisky saying tube traffic converts amazing while being hired to sell ads spaces on tubes...
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Im not hired to just sell ads, i do a lot more then that lol.
Selling ads is the easy part, and unsold spots we use to do our own pps. If it wouldnt cost time to get them sold i'd do pps on them 24/7.

Keep thinking tubes dont convert though ;)
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Old 08-08-2011, 10:03 AM   #54
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Idiot.

If they renew every month that's not a great sign.

They're unsure of the value of the ad for longer than a few months. If they forward booked 3, 6, 12 months it would be a great sign.

So "most" companies forward book. Which leaves you space to sell.

The fact that they need you to sell space isn't a good sign. Most advertising personnel in "papermags from the 80s" were little more than order takers. The space was so good it had to be pre booked and selling it wasn't required. It was supplied. The last thing they needed was some person going around trying to sell space.

Yes online ads can be rotated, magazines could of increased pages of adverting, but there's still space to be had and some people don't like it enough to cancel and others don't like it enough to only renew every month. The Tubes could just offer 6 months with a discount which is your cut and then you're not needed.

There was a guy on here recently spamming Tube ads and hitting people up on ICQ. Not a good sign.
LOL !

Amazing. That is your way to quote "make you look like a fool" ?
For real?

Yeah man, i guess companies renewing their spots 8 months in a row must mean they are losing out on a lot of money. Its really really shitty that they do this. Porn is dead.

Get your nurse in there old man, you are rambling. Let them up the medicine again.
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Old 08-08-2011, 02:29 PM   #55
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Why most tube sites are using PPC instead of PPS?

They are using AdXpansion, Ero Advertising, ExoClick.

They don't care about sales because they know that there are no sales happening.

They use PPS for dating / cams sponsors.

The question is how they pay the costs for all that traffic?
Are they data center owners?

I honestly cannot understand these people.
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Old 08-08-2011, 03:22 PM   #56
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From the looks of it you indeed dont understand much about it.

Why are tubes selling adspots..

Why is google selling them?
Why is every newspaper selling them?
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Old 08-08-2011, 03:50 PM   #57
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Tubes sell spots to any asshole - but very few make PROFITS using these ads. Not paysites, or extremely few, that's for sure. Pills, mind fuck chicks, make your dick GROW, want a date in ur city, cams - THESE make a profit, and enough of one so that's it's a mathematical equation for them to make a profit, tho many companies find they plateau. So it's really finding that 'sweet spot' on not buying too much and not enough traffic.

But again, MAN does it depend on your landing pages and what the fuck you're trying to sell in order to recoup that 20k+ these tubes charge you.

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Most of our advertisers are happy with the 4-6times cash on sales of what the ads cost them.

Funny how there are this many experts on tubes, but all the ones bitching about them never ran any or saw them from the inside
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Old 08-08-2011, 05:15 PM   #59
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Most tubes do not sell traffic CPC its all CPM
If you have any to sell at CPC I will test it out
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Most tubes do not sell traffic CPC its all CPM
If you have any to sell at CPC I will test it out
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Old 08-09-2011, 09:16 AM   #61
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Homegrown Video knows how to convert tube traffic

Our conversions have steadily improved on tubes. I know other programs that convert just as well if not better. They aren't going to come on here and say it becasue they are happy others have yet to figure it out that, yes, you actually can sell paysites to tube traffic. You can also generate sweet organics which even trumps targetted search traffic so that should be weighed in as well. Whoever says no one will type in a url off a branded clip I just have to respectfully disagree with.

We improve our tube conversion ratios every month. Call bullshit all you want. Let's have the conversation in a year or two and see who is still in business.

People can just as easily blow through a ton of cash on google traffic and not get sales as they can buying traffic from any adult traffic broker.
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