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Old 09-07-2008, 09:24 PM   #1
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Have you seen the new corn syrup propaganda commercials?

Ive seen now two of them in two days. Someone is offered something and the person says no thank you that has high fructose corn syrup. The person offering says why is that bad ? The person has a blank look on their face. Then they talk about how fine it is in moderation.
People must be dropping their consumption of it, good fuck them.
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Ive seen now two of them in two days. Someone is offered something and the person says no thank you that has high fructose corn syrup. The person offering says why is that bad ? The person has a blank look on their face. Then they talk about how fine it is in moderation.
People must be dropping their consumption of it, good fuck them.

I think the new bill gates commercial is fucking wierd with Jerry.
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Go go purple drank!

Wait, that's made with cane sugar or beet sugar.. People aren't drinking enough Pepsi!

On the other hand, if we deplete the corn syrup conglomerates, maybe that'll get rid of that fucking worthless ethanol additive.

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aspartame is a lot worse than corn syrup..
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aspartame is a lot worse than corn syrup..
Based on what?

Corn Syrup certainly makes you fatter.
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Based on what?

Corn Syrup certainly makes you fatter.
Oh, I don't know.. that whole causing cancer thing.
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They charted it and the growth of obesity in this country and the use of high fructose syrup are almost parallel.
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99.6% of Tony404 facts are made up on the spot. The other 0.4% someone else made up, and he found on Wikipedia.
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Based on what?

Corn Syrup certainly makes you fatter.
http://www.sweetpoison.com/

there are a ton of other sources out there...

now, i dont believe everything i read, but i do know aspartame is found in a ton of products these days and so probably harder to keep intake down unless you are actually making an effort to...
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I drink a ton of Diet Pop with Aspartame. I'm in great shape too.

You're trying to tell me Aspartame is dangerous. You know what's dangerous? Being morbidly obese. Analyze that wording a little bit guys.

No, I'd argue I'm far healthier than most people intaking high amounts of sugar. Period.
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Flagging for "weasel words".

Not that you seem biased, you just look like you may be sitting on one.
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I drink a ton of Diet Pop with Aspartame. I'm in great shape too.

You're trying to tell me Aspartame is dangerous. You know what's dangerous? Being morbidly obese. Analyze that wording a little bit guys.

No, I'd argue I'm far healthier than most people intaking high amounts of sugar. Period.
So, cancer > diabetes. Gotcha.
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99.6% of Tony404 facts are made up on the spot. The other 0.4% someone else made up, and he found on Wikipedia.
yep all fake you got my number.
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So, cancer > diabetes. Gotcha.
Okay so medical science believes drinking Aspartame gives you cancer? As far as I know, no conclusive evidence has been found based on actual case study.

It's a debate. Some studies showing adverse effects, others not. There's no difinitive answer in Medicine, and yet here you are telling me it's going to give me cancer.

Meanwhile, we know for sure the dangers posed by Obesity. Everything from Diabatese, to heart disease to high blood pressure and cholestory, etc etc. Not to mention the measurable decrease in quality of life.

No, I'm sorry I'm not convinced. The average fat ass Pepsi swilling American would be doing himself a giant favour switching to Diet Pepsi.
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Okay so medical science believes drinking Aspartame gives you cancer? As far as I know, no conclusive evidence has been found based on actual case study.

It's a debate. Some studies showing adverse effects, others not. There's no difinitive answer in Medicine, and yet here you are telling me it's going to give me cancer.

Meanwhile, we know for sure the dangers posed by Obesity. Everything from Diabatese, to heart disease to high blood pressure and cholestory, etc etc. Not to mention the measurable decrease in quality of life.

No, I'm sorry I'm not convinced. The average fat ass Pepsi swilling American would be doing himself a giant favour switching to Diet Pepsi.
how about cutting out sugar all together.. people are fat because they eat way more calories then they expend.. its not just a problem with sugar and high fat foods, its a problem with a society based on junk food, fast food, and poor exercise habits...
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Not that you seem biased, you just look like you may be sitting on one.
no bias.. i can think for myself...

also, i like to poke things with sticks...

and sometimes even state an opinion that contradicts what i actually believe...
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No, I'm sorry I'm not convinced. The average fat ass Pepsi swilling American would be doing himself a giant favour switching to Diet Pepsi.
My point was that there was evidence that it can give you cancer. That you'd wish cancer on someone whose already so lazy that they sit around and swill cola like it's air, well, is just sadistic.

A fatass isn't going to stop being a fatass just because they switch to diet cola; it requires a lot more than that - it requires a lifestyle change.

So, if you're going to dispell my evidence, yous needs to be a bit better than 'hey i think I'm think and I don't have cancer'.
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http://www.sweetpoison.com/

there are a ton of other sources out there...

now, i dont believe everything i read, but i do know aspartame is found in a ton of products these days and so probably harder to keep intake down unless you are actually making an effort to...
I sure make the effort to, aspartame sucks - Anyway, indeed, not healthy. Also fooling your body/brain, you taste something sweet (180x sweeter than sugar) so your body thinks you are consuming sugar. Your body prepares itself but doesnt get any sugar. It fucks you up and makes you crave more sugar.

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Oh, and lawl at fat people at macdonalds that ask for a diet coke
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BTW Tony, do you have a graph or something that shows the correlation between obesity and corn syrup sales/production in this country.

I'd like to read the article.
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I hear people say that all the time but you don't understand. Once you get used to diet soda, regular soda tastes like syrup. You just can't drink it. So even if you never diet again, diet soda is what you'll be drinking once you acquire a taste for it.
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So even if you never diet again, diet soda is what you'll be drinking once you acquire a taste for it.
I have to back this up.

I started drinking Diet Rite, which was, well, like flat cola. After this, I can't really even stand non-Splenda diet colas.. I can taste the chemicals, and if I'm wasting 200 calories, it's not on a goddamn fizzy drink.
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BTW Tony, do you have a graph or something that shows the correlation between obesity and corn syrup sales/production in this country.

I'd like to read the article.
I think I still have the book , I will scan it for you. I also posted a url for an article on it from the ap news wire
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I hear people say that all the time but you don't understand. Once you get used to diet soda, regular soda tastes like syrup. You just can't drink it. So even if you never diet again, diet soda is what you'll be drinking once you acquire a taste for it.
Once I got used to eating healthy as part of my daily routine, the idea of drinking any kind of cola or soda made me nauseous. Diet soda is definitely better than non-diet soda, but it's still sugary and chemically tasting swill. I prefer iced tea and water now.
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Once I got used to eating healthy as part of my daily routine, the idea of drinking any kind of cola or soda made me nauseous. Diet soda is definitely better than non-diet soda, but it's still sugary and chemically tasting swill. I prefer iced tea and water now.
Well I'm just not as clean and pure as you are Jim, I guess I'll have to live with that.
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I'm not really buying that "totally", corn syrup is a small part of a bigger problem.

Like I was saying before, when my parents were kids they ate pure sugar, fried chicken in crisco animal shortening, put real butter on their bread, all kinds of shit that people usually don't do today for "health reasons"
Yet they were much skinnier than we are.

The reason?

Food is so cheap.

When my parents were kids the grocery bill was more than the mortgage....that's almost never the case today.
Since food is so cheap and plentiful, people are eating more and more of it.

One of the reasons food is so cheap is farm subsidies. One of the biggest subsidies goes to corn growers. This made corn syrup cheaper to use than sugar, so food manufacturers started using it.

So while obesity and corn syrup are plotting the same graph....I think it's more for the reason that corn syrup made food cheaper and people started eating more of it....not that corn syrup is more "evil" than something like sugar or molasses.
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The reason why there are ads for this type of stuff. Is so that they spend enough money in ad revenue that they have clout over the network if one of their news organizations digs up some dirt on them. It's a common practice. Remember those bizarre ads for the plastics industry?
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fact: diet soda tastes like chemical shit death.

regular soda tastes like syrup. I usually cut it at least in half with seltzer at the fountain.
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I'm not really buying that "totally", corn syrup is a small part of a bigger problem.

Like I was saying before, when my parents were kids they ate pure sugar, fried chicken in crisco animal shortening, put real butter on their bread, all kinds of shit that people usually don't do today for "health reasons"
Yet they were much skinnier than we are.

The reason?

Food is so cheap.

When my parents were kids the grocery bill was more than the mortgage....that's almost never the case today.
Since food is so cheap and plentiful, people are eating more and more of it.

One of the reasons food is so cheap is farm subsidies. One of the biggest subsidies goes to corn growers. This made corn syrup cheaper to use than sugar, so food manufacturers started using it.

So while obesity and corn syrup are plotting the same graph....I think it's more for the reason that corn syrup made food cheaper and people started eating more of it....not that corn syrup is more "evil" than something like sugar or molasses.
actually when we were kids the grocery bill was alot cheaper.We were talking about it this weekend. MY mother said I dont know how families do it now its so expensive to shop. When you were kids , only your father worked and we ate 3 meals a day at home 7 days a week and 6 of those meals had meat. My mother said I dont know how families do it now.
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Corn syrup does have a much higher glycemic index than regular sugar if I remember correctly. So if you drink a HFCS beverage with a meal, your body will go into storage mode.

They use it because it's cheaper.

I rarely drink cola anymore but once in while I'll get an ice cold Coke and it tastes soooooooo good.
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Old 09-08-2008, 11:12 PM   #45
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i dont see how people even drink pop when they're thirsty. it dehydrates the shit out of you.
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Old 09-09-2008, 12:16 AM   #46
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I didn't even know this is news worthy. I figured people who eat more sugar based substance would realize that it's extra calories. Moderation is key with most things. Except porn. SELL MORE! SEE SIG!
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Old 09-09-2008, 05:10 AM   #47
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Old 09-26-2008, 11:52 AM   #49
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actually when we were kids the grocery bill was alot cheaper.We were talking about it this weekend. MY mother said I dont know how families do it now its so expensive to shop. When you were kids , only your father worked and we ate 3 meals a day at home 7 days a week and 6 of those meals had meat. My mother said I dont know how families do it now.
I know this isn't a brand new thread but.....our mother's memory and the facts are at odds.

Sure in terms of spending $X per week at the grocery store, things were cheaper then....but as a percentage of a families income, food is cheaper now than at any time in human history.

The numbers may be a little off because there has been a spike in food prices just this year, but speaking in terms of the last decade or so.....cheapest food and biggest variety of food in human history.
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Old 09-26-2008, 12:13 PM   #50
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Okay so medical science believes drinking Aspartame gives you cancer? As far as I know, no conclusive evidence has been found based on actual case study.

It's a debate. Some studies showing adverse effects, others not. There's no difinitive answer in Medicine, and yet here you are telling me it's going to give me cancer.

Meanwhile, we know for sure the dangers posed by Obesity. Everything from Diabatese, to heart disease to high blood pressure and cholestory, etc etc. Not to mention the measurable decrease in quality of life.

No, I'm sorry I'm not convinced. The average fat ass Pepsi swilling American would be doing himself a giant favour switching to Diet Pepsi.
Why drink any kind of soft drinks at all? Water is better for you.
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