SteveBee

So I am thinking about selling my tube site - it's doing pretty well, but it's getting big and needs to move up to bigger servers and probably cdn in the near future. It's a good tube site in that it is all user generated videos, no full length dvdrig kind of crap. It's gotten to be more than 30,000 videos, and pulls good traffic; 20-30,000 unique visitors a month - consistent (mostly US, UK #2).

It's established, been online for a few years, does well for search terms (and always has) - nothing shady about this site - it's just getting big. I'm too lazy to track sales from the site specifically, as I do not do campaigns for each site I run, but anyone who knows their beans knows what it can turn if the right ads are placed and tracked with this kind of traffic.

So I wonder if anyone has any suggestions for the best way to sell, I have thought of putting it up for auction somewhere with a base price of 15,000 and let bids go from there for 30 days. Anyone have an escrow company they recommend / don't suggest? A best place to list or not?

Part of me wants to keep it and just monetize it more, but moving to servers that can handle more than 2TB of data, with future growth coming as well, is a bit beyond the scale of what I ever thought I'd have to mess with. I am swamped with work on my other sites, and this one is a good one that is growing faster than I ever expected, so what to do? Any good advice is certainly appreciated.

Mutt

doh - it's a tube site you're selling, i am interested in buying a sube site. nevermind.

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AdultKing

Is that a typo ????

SteveBee

@ mutt - rofl - dang it! That's what I get for posting at like 6am after working all night and getting dependent upon firefox to highlight spelling issues (which doesn't seem to work for post titles!) - thanks for pointing that out - wish there was a way that I can edit the post title! grr!

@ adultking - no, not a typo - that's what my awstats shows for past 6 months.. about 700 and more unique visitors a day. I've kept the site light on ads and popups and crap, which I guess keeps people coming back.. it's decent traffic I guess right? Last year averaged around 10k unique visitors each month - I had to switch hosts, then upgrade servers, the growth has been ridiculous.. but it got kinda popular a while back with people uploading lots of vid clips and it just keeps growing.. hard to keep up servers with the demand..

Mutt

i've done it before - sucks that they won't let you edit a thread title.

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AdultKing

700 unique visitors a day is a trickle of visitors, sorry the burst your bubble. I'd be selling a site that was two years old and only got 700 visitors a day too.

Nicky

30k vids and 700 visits a day

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SteveBee

yeah, it does 700 to a little over a thousand a day - so I know it's not a million dollar mega site. But it is a solid site with lots of potential for the right person / company.. a site with 30,000 pages that can be used is nice.. it's dynamic template driven, so easy to update..

@mutt, Glad I am not the only one! I mean editing of the thread title I could see being an issue of the site used pretty permalinks, but it's just showthread=9999 or whatever, so I'd think it wouldn't be a huge issue.. but what can ya do.

AdultKing

SteveBee, what percentage of those 700 - 1000 people per day click an ad ?

There is no way you will get $15k for a site getting 700 people visiting a day. I have 2 month old blogs that get many times that traffic.

Sly

I think that if you seriously expect to get $15,000 for that you're going to be very disappointed once a bid is placed, if you get a bid. I would just keep this site and let it run its course.

With that amount of traffic, I can't really imagine how you are killing a server unless you have it encoding videos often. Is this on a dedicated server?

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if you want to seel this sube in the 4digits it would have to be a sube in a very specific niche, and not in a general one imho, based on the traffic it currently get. Also you should track how much revenue it generates monthly : usually you can base your asking price to 6-8 months revenue or a little more if it's sub-niche.

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SteveBee

@ rstgp_stef - thanks for the advice - I appreciate the info!

@ Sly, thanks for the suggestion, and it's not killing the server as far as processing, it's the dang storage space - moving beyond 2TB or storage is not as cheap as I would like. , yeah dedicated.

@ adultking - boy I'd love to know how to get many times that traffic from a new blog - if you could clue me in on what I should be doing to grab more traffic - I've been so focused on design and security updates on so many sites I don't get to promotion at all, just kind of build for search engines and then have patience to see what happens - I guess there is much more I could / should be doing. - Not sure how many click an ad, like I mentioned in the initial post I don't do sub tracking ids on my sites, I guess I should start doing that.

Love Sex

well show us the site if you want sell?

Just Alex

15K?
I have shitty tube that gets 2000 visitors per day and I would consider $500 a fuck of a deal.

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AdultKing

Easy. So easy it's stupid. I really need to run an ABC's of blogging course

SteveBee

@ adultking - if you do publish some ABCs of blogging or whatever brings that kind of traffic I would really appreciate the info - seems like I work 12 hours a day on one aspect of the biz and don't get the parts that you do.

@Just_Alex - I am surprised you value yours at so little.. I would think you could sell links on your site for more and $500 per year, much less the entire site.. I appreciate your opinion though, it's always interesting to see how people around here value things.

@Love_Sex - because of the controversy surrounding sube sites (lol) - and the amount of harsh criticism that is prevalent in the gfy boards, I will only be showing it to someone who is serious about it, and can prove they are in a position to offer more than 15k for the site.

willwank

Hey SteveBee, can you send me the site url on icq? 437654594

nm, saw the 15k, good luck.

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OneWhoKnows

Lol, about what I just wanted to post. My biggest tube has about 60k vistors a DAY and still would I never ask for $15k even in my dreams, as I'm still far from being one of the really big players out there.

Plus what exactly do you mean with "user generated content"? I guess you monitor each and every user upload for not being copyright protected somehow, right?

Adraco

You might be able to get a few hundreds for the site, maybe, just maybe even around $1000
for anything more than that, you need to have some kind of proven track record. You being "lazy" to not track income will end up biting you here.

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Klen

Lol i could get more traffic on one site in single day

LeRoy

15k for a site with 700 hits a day

I needed a good laugh for the day

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SteveBee

@ adraco - yeah, guess I will have to setup campaign ids for everything and start to pull that info together.

@ babagoonash - great pic!

@ Kelntaris - how do you do that exactly? Care to share?

@ LaRoy - I am always grad to provide laughs and entertainment for all, I chose the entertainment industry many years ago for that reason! - I disagree with the value of a site being based merely on traffic alone - there are many other factors to a sites value.

Babaganoosh

Justify your asking price then.

d-null

what script is the site running on and is a license included with the sale?

helterskelter808

Who gives a fuck what traffic your sites get compared to his 30k/a month? It doesn't mean jack if your 2k/60k/million a day doesn't convert into actual monies.

The only thing that matters is how much a site is making alongside how much potential it has, and the OP hasn't given any information on that.

So everyone here who has jerked off over themselves for having more traffic or LOLed at the asking price without even asking for details of how much the site makes or the kind of traffic and where it comes from, has just demonstrated they don't have a clue and I doubt have anything like 15k to spend either.

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SteveBee

@ babaganoosh - I think there are many different variables that should be considered with a site other than traffic and or sales. For example, I have a few web sites that have great page rank with plenty of all original content, they don't pull a lot of traffic or make any sales - but the value to me is pretty much priceless, as they provide the juice to make other sites perform well. With this site I am considering selling, it has a lot of pages, and it does not bleed traffic or PR, and it performs well in the serps. With that, it could be used to rank up other sites, not just sending traffic. Getting a link across 30,000 relative content pages may be very valuable to another webmaster, the exact value? That depends.

Another thing to consider is that it sounds like there are other webmasters here bragging that they easily pull 60,000 unique visitors in a day - well if that is true, then they could take over this site, and promote on their other sites and push the visitors to 60,000 in no time from what it sounds like - given that this site has so much content, it should be easy to convert those users into return visitors, and further promote other services as well.

So much of the work has already been done, this is not some out of the box script with content scraped and embedded with one of the scrapers out there - every video has been uploaded by users, and is hosted on site, they are all categorized and easy to surf through.

Obviously I am better at modding up scripts and doing other aspects of web site design than pushing massive traffic or tracking sales across all of my web sites, and it sounds like many others here are better at driving traffic and sales - that being the case an experienced gfy guru would probably change out the way I had setup ads to run, add some traffic, make bank, and gets lots of user love, along with SE love - all they would need to do is take the site and change some ad code, perhaps go with a premium player plugin to throw ads there - From the numbers I see being boasted and jokes being made, I would think that another webmaster could buy this site, make a few minor changes to it along with some cross site promo and make their 15k back within 90 days - plus they would have a pretty strong site to use in various other ways if they chose to.

I suppose you could also import affiliate vids, put relative banners around and pull extra income that way as well - I have yet to do any of that. The script is setup to import galleries and can pull in and convert X amount of vids per day, etc, although I have never needed to do that with this site - so there are many more possibilities that could be considered.

There are many other variables to consider when valuing a site as well, I do not expect 90% of the users here to consider those factors, as I mentioned in the first post, there are some webmasters out there that know the value of a site like this, and those users can afford the 15k and see an ROI in less than a year with other benefits as well.

@ d-null - Running a version of Tubex - custom modded templates and some custom functions added to them to make it easy to serve ads, contact pages and stuff like that. I should be able to include the license for the script as well, and I would allow the use of the custom template coding that has been done.

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i want some sube site

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Klen

Who is this "Kelntaris"you speaking of ?

BareBacked

30k videos and 20-30,000 unique users per MONTH?

Something is off here. But please sent me the info

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AdultKing

TubeX: $25
Indians to upload content: $500
Domain: $10
30,000 visitors a month: $90 @ $3 per 1000

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This thread has the makings of a classic

Just Alex

Point me to someone who would pay $500 for links on that kind of site?

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RebelR

Not to contradict you, but according to the OP.. he has no idea how much its making since he said he doesn't track sales "I'm too lazy to track sales from the site specifically, as I do not do campaigns for each site I run" So the valuation is based on what?, is what everyone is asking. Seems there are quite a few people lately, looking to get paid on the potential that their site/idea has, but they themselves are unable or unwilling do to. It just doesn't work that way.

I wish everyone luck, but its gonna be a tough sale!

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SteveBee

@adultking - please tell me where I can get Indians to upload 30,000 videos for $500, I will jump on that today! Also, how long do you think that would take? When you say buying traffic at that price, I also interested, I have never bought traffic from anyone, although I did sign up to a directory once that promised 100,000 clicks through, but that was not the quality traffic that was expected, nor the quantity that was promised. That kind of traffic buy you are talking about, is that blind links being bought or something? If there is this kind of deal for buying traffic I guess I need to focus less on design and updates and more on traffic buying.

@just alex - you said your site is pulling 2,000 visitors a day, then I would think that it would be worth it for me to buy a link on your site for $100 for a year - and I would think you could get 5 people to do that right? That was my point about you could easily make 500 a year just from links on your site, and that's without any else pulling in cash - yet you value your site at only $500 - maybe I need to change plans here and start buying sites from people. Alex if you would sell your site for $500 - maybe we should talk about that. Just let me know how much drive space it takes up.

RebelR - it's true that I do not track per site - it seems it's hard enough to keep up with site and software updates, much less which sponsors that fail to either update content or other things - so I just push a few sites on a majority of the ones I run and see how they fair. I am certainly willing to put in the work to make this site a success, but I guess I am missing what it is everyone else here is doing to be successful. My main concern is having to upgrade and pay for a bigger server, I was thinking there would be someone successful here that knew how to value and enjoy a good site, but it seems everyone here does not place a lot of value on adult sites these days. If you have any pointers for what work needs to be done make a decent size tube site gain more traffic and sales, I am all ears - I'm just nervous about moving up to the next level of having more dedicated servers to pay for. It sounds like everyone here has some secret to success, yet they are not sharing that info - and yet everyone puts such a low value on they have and what others are building - kind of strange.

Klen

Ah well at least this thread gave me a lot of laughs :D

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Babaganoosh

I'm not reading all of that. I barely skimmed. First, pagerank is completely irrelevant. No real webmaster pays any attention to it anymore.

As for people bragging about pulling 60k a day, that's not rocket science. I used to run a single mgp that did over 200k a day. There are a LOT of people here who know how to drive traffic. As one of those people, I have to ask why I would need your site? It's running a $25 tube script and has some "user generated" content.

It's worth no more than about $500 to be honest and it's only worth that because you've saved someone a little bit of work. If you get any offers of over $500 you should probably take it.

Denny

700 uv a day is really nothing, considering it's a tube site.

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AdultKing

*IF* this site was doing well in the SERPs you'd be getting many more than 700 visitors a day. It's clear from your posts here that you are either clueless or trolling. Nobody could believe that getting 700 visitors a day to a tube was good.

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SteveBee

@ babaganoosh - I understand your opinion, and it does sound like you have no need for a site like this, which makes sense that you would not put much value on it.

@ adult king - I see what you are saying, and you are right. I have not tried to get it to rank for "free porn" or anything, certainly that would drive much more SE traffic - maybe I should look at driving more of the short tail key phrases to jump that.. Right now what I mean by it doing well in serps is that there are some niche keywords that it has done well for for quite sometime. That does not mean that 100 people a day looking for a long tail set of keywords is super valuable, but it does mean that it is not hated in ggle - which gives it a lot of potential. Some sites are hated by ggle, and even if they were large sites or got lots of traffic would have little hope of driving good serps - so this is not one of those sites that is not setup well.

Guess I will just make the move to a bigger server and work harder to push more traffic and actually take the time to put relative ads instead of just the general ones I slapped on it. I never expected it to grow so fast, I figured I could let this thing grow for a long time and keep working on my other sites - but I guess it's time switch gears and get this one making more since it's gonna cost more.

AdultKing

This has to be a troll thread.

Any long tail keyword worth it's salt gets at least 50 searches a day. If you're only able to get 700 unique visitors a day with 30,000 videos / web pages then you're NOT doing well in the SERPs.

The fact the OP even thought such a site was worth $15k shows a complete and utter disconnect from reality.

porno jew

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AdultKing

I'm pretty sure the thread has to be a wind up, nobody objective could think those traffic numbers for a 30,000 video tube are anything other than dismal.

porno jew

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SteveBee

@ adult king - I am not sure what you mean by troll thread? The only definition of trolling that I know has to do with someone trying to come into a forum and troll for customers like I see cam girls do in one of the forums I maintain - is there a different definition you are referring to?

@ porn jew - yeah, I do spend most of my time working with mainstream sites these days, and have for the past couple of years - most of the adult sites that I have tried to make big money with never did more than a couple grand a month - so most of the adult stuff I have been working on is kind of sitting there aging and not doing a lot.

It sounds like you guys have some method of bringing lots of traffic for cheap, and that makes money by promoting good affiliate programs? maybe you can point me in that direction so I can try to be a successful adult webmaster like yourselves?