Domain Age Relevance - GoFuckYourself.com

barcodes · 08-20-2011, 09:21 AM

Hello everyone.

I am hoping you fine folks can help me figure this out. I like to check the sell and buy forums from time to time and I have seen people trying to sell domains, posting that though they recently purchased it, they are listed on the wayback archive from 2005, 2003, etc...

So, for example, I own coedporno.com, If I go to the internet archive, I see this,
http://web.archive.org/web/200008161...coedporno.com/

I understand the value of having a domain in your possession for a long time but do wayback records really make a huge difference as far as the value for the domain? If I put anything in Google, I don't get wayback links but I am a noob so maybe there is something I don't understand.

I have a few domains like this that are archived from back in the day (2000-2001), should I put more focus on developing these than ones that aren't archived?

Thanks guys, as always, I appreciate all of your feedback very much. I hope you all are having a great weekend.

Frosty · 08-20-2011, 09:31 AM

It makes no difference, but it could help to someone who's interested in history of the site. But yeah, that's about it.

DaddyHalbucks · 08-20-2011, 09:38 AM

Google automatically penalizes adult domains. "Experts" on this board will claim otherwise, but it is a fact.

An old porn domain is still a porn domain, for the purposes of Google.

An old crappy mainstream domain is still a crappy domain.

An old great mainstream domain --that's what you want ;)

baddog · 08-20-2011, 09:39 AM

Age is a very important factor.

Finike · 08-20-2011, 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog

Age is a very important factor.

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MrCain · 08-20-2011, 09:47 AM

Coedporno.com is not an old domain. It was registered in 2011. Domain age is an important factor if the domain has been continuously renewed.

barcodes · 08-20-2011, 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrCain

Coedporno.com is not an old domain. It was registered in 2011. Domain age is an important factor if the domain has been continuously renewed.

I didn't say it was an old domain. What I was trying to say above is that what I have seen were people buying expired domains and trying to sell them, saying "but its archived". That's why I was curious if it being in the archive meant anything at all. I thought the same about age as what you posted, but wasn't sure why someone would point that out for a newly purchased domain unless there was something I didn't know about.

MrCain · 08-20-2011, 10:10 AM

"Being archived" by TheWayBackMachine means nothing.

iancant · 08-20-2011, 10:11 AM

The whole age thing comes in to play as Google like to see the stability of a website, therefore the age of a domain can be hugely important as long as it has been in continuous operation, not just the domain but a site on that domain too.

How important its effects are difficult to justify, as you could only see a significant effect where you are very close (in all other aspects) to another domain. If your domain has better anchor texts or load speeds then the impact of this would be less reaching.

barcodes · 08-20-2011, 10:32 AM

Thanks for all of the info everyone. I had purchased and have been working on some domains without an archive before I purchased the ones with a history. I just wanted to be sure I was right that being archived meant nothing. If it did then maybe I would have switched over to building sites for said names. Since it doesn't they will just stay parked until I can get to them.

cooldude7 · 08-20-2011, 12:58 PM

not only domain age, but the history also matters a lot.
like was that domain indexed b4,

how many oages was indexed b4.

what keyword was the domain taregetted b4.

and so on., imho.

CYF · 08-20-2011, 01:34 PM

domain age might be a factor, but simply being listed on the internet archive/wayback machine doesn't mean shit.

Chris GAMBA · 08-20-2011, 06:39 PM

Being in the waybackmachine is meaningless. I don't know much about SEO, but for commercial emailing, a domain having been renewed continuously for years, AND being registered for 5-7 years in the future, has an effect on sendscores.

DBS.US · 08-20-2011, 06:43 PM

If the domain has changed owners make any difference?

GAMEFINEST · 08-20-2011, 06:48 PM

i dont see domain age being a big difference

V_RocKs · 08-20-2011, 07:45 PM

It factors in, but what the site was doing also does too.

Best-In-BC · 08-20-2011, 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrCain

"Being archived" by TheWayBackMachine means nothing.

Unless its already been placed in a blacklist which I had happen to me, i just trashed the domain

marlboroack · 08-20-2011, 09:20 PM

If the name is good and the domain has a good rep the price goes up in value. It's worth what someone would pay for it.

d-null · 08-20-2011, 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrCain

Coedporno.com is not an old domain. It was registered in 2011. Domain age is an important factor if the domain has been continuously renewed.

exactly, wayback machine archive.org means nothing, google knows when a domain was first registered and if the domain is allowed to drop it starts all over again

slavdogg · 08-21-2011, 02:05 AM

wayback machine doesnt matter to the value of a domain or any SEO benefits.

If you guys like way back machine, here is another much more useful tool
Screenshot History from domaintools.com
http://www.screenshots.com

Vendot · 08-21-2011, 03:47 AM

Domain Age is hugely relevant for ranking - at least it is in Google.

Age of the domain is just one thing that absolutely cannot be gamed. Thus Google has an objective, honest measure to look at and if a domain was registered longer ago its more likely to be one which has a level of committment accorded to it.

Its only one factor but it is an important one. If you look at the top ranking sites across a range of very major keywords, youll find that the top ranking sites domain names generally were not registered in the last two or three years. They tend to be older domains.

chickahoona · 08-21-2011, 09:48 AM

Domain age is highly relevant?

Its a one factor yes, but the thing is more that "old domains" come with "old hardlinks" and thats what google likes.
You can have old domains getting 0 hits from google while a 1 year old domains get already 100k from SE daily...

So i wouldnt count much on the domain age when i buy a domain...

08-20-2011, 09:21 AM	#1
barcodes Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Florida Posts: 2,040	Domain Age Relevance Hello everyone. I am hoping you fine folks can help me figure this out. I like to check the sell and buy forums from time to time and I have seen people trying to sell domains, posting that though they recently purchased it, they are listed on the wayback archive from 2005, 2003, etc... So, for example, I own coedporno.com, If I go to the internet archive, I see this, http://web.archive.org/web/200008161...coedporno.com/ I understand the value of having a domain in your possession for a long time but do wayback records really make a huge difference as far as the value for the domain? If I put anything in Google, I don't get wayback links but I am a noob so maybe there is something I don't understand. I have a few domains like this that are archived from back in the day (2000-2001), should I put more focus on developing these than ones that aren't archived? Thanks guys, as always, I appreciate all of your feedback very much. I hope you all are having a great weekend.

08-20-2011, 09:31 AM	#2
Frosty Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 130	It makes no difference, but it could help to someone who's interested in history of the site. But yeah, that's about it. __________________ suicidalmedia at gmail dot com

08-20-2011, 09:38 AM	#3
DaddyHalbucks A freakin' legend! Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada USA Posts: 18,975	Google automatically penalizes adult domains. "Experts" on this board will claim otherwise, but it is a fact. An old porn domain is still a porn domain, for the purposes of Google. An old crappy mainstream domain is still a crappy domain. An old great mainstream domain --that's what you want ;) __________________ Boner Money

08-20-2011, 09:47 AM	#6
MrCain Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 3,332	Coedporno.com is not an old domain. It was registered in 2011. Domain age is an important factor if the domain has been continuously renewed. __________________ Sigmund

08-20-2011, 10:10 AM	#8
MrCain Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 3,332	"Being archived" by TheWayBackMachine means nothing. __________________ Sigmund

08-20-2011, 09:39 AM	#4
baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,089	Age is a very important factor.

08-20-2011, 10:11 AM	#9
iancant Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 44	The whole age thing comes in to play as Google like to see the stability of a website, therefore the age of a domain can be hugely important as long as it has been in continuous operation, not just the domain but a site on that domain too. How important its effects are difficult to justify, as you could only see a significant effect where you are very close (in all other aspects) to another domain. If your domain has better anchor texts or load speeds then the impact of this would be less reaching.

08-20-2011, 10:32 AM	#10
barcodes Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Florida Posts: 2,040	Thanks for all of the info everyone. I had purchased and have been working on some domains without an archive before I purchased the ones with a history. I just wanted to be sure I was right that being archived meant nothing. If it did then maybe I would have switched over to building sites for said names. Since it doesn't they will just stay parked until I can get to them.

08-20-2011, 12:58 PM	#11
cooldude7 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Heaven Posts: 4,306	not only domain age, but the history also matters a lot. like was that domain indexed b4, how many oages was indexed b4. what keyword was the domain taregetted b4. and so on., imho.

08-20-2011, 01:34 PM	#12
CYF Coupon Guru Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 10,973	domain age might be a factor, but simply being listed on the internet archive/wayback machine doesn't mean shit. __________________ Webmaster Coupons Coupons and discounts for hosting, domains, SSL Certs, and more! AmeriNOC Coupons \| Certified Hosting Coupons \| Hosting Coupons \| Domain Name Coupons

08-20-2011, 06:39 PM	#13
Chris GAMBA So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 101	Being in the waybackmachine is meaningless. I don't know much about SEO, but for commercial emailing, a domain having been renewed continuously for years, AND being registered for 5-7 years in the future, has an effect on sendscores.

08-20-2011, 06:43 PM	#14
DBS.US Geo Cities Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: North Captiva Island, Florida USA Posts: 11,830	If the domain has changed owners make any difference? __________________ Make a Free Chaturbate White Label site in 34 minutes and be making money tonight

08-20-2011, 06:48 PM	#15
GAMEFINEST Make STACK$ Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: sexy time Posts: 14,418	i dont see domain age being a big difference __________________ Compound interest.

08-20-2011, 07:45 PM	#16
V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,392	It factors in, but what the site was doing also does too.

08-20-2011, 09:20 PM	#18
marlboroack So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: ☣ Posts: 9,327	If the name is good and the domain has a good rep the price goes up in value. It's worth what someone would pay for it.

08-21-2011, 02:05 AM	#20
slavdogg Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 3,570	wayback machine doesnt matter to the value of a domain or any SEO benefits. If you guys like way back machine, here is another much more useful tool Screenshot History from domaintools.com http://www.screenshots.com __________________ Adult Traffic for Sale

08-21-2011, 03:47 AM	#21
Vendot Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Location: Malaysia Posts: 3,376	Domain Age is hugely relevant for ranking - at least it is in Google. Age of the domain is just one thing that absolutely cannot be gamed. Thus Google has an objective, honest measure to look at and if a domain was registered longer ago its more likely to be one which has a level of committment accorded to it. Its only one factor but it is an important one. If you look at the top ranking sites across a range of very major keywords, youll find that the top ranking sites domain names generally were not registered in the last two or three years. They tend to be older domains.

08-21-2011, 09:48 AM	#22
chickahoona Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 82	Domain age is highly relevant? Its a one factor yes, but the thing is more that "old domains" come with "old hardlinks" and thats what google likes. You can have old domains getting 0 hits from google while a 1 year old domains get already 100k from SE daily... So i wouldnt count much on the domain age when i buy a domain... __________________ ICQ: 15three-45four-84one Mail/MSN/AIM: myvibes at gmx dot net