Why do 80% of my $100+ affiliate sales to F.F.N. get refunded within three days? - GoFuckYourself.com

signupdamnit · 08-28-2011, 06:08 PM

I've been noticing that most of my sales of $100 - $200 with FFN get refunded within 2 - 4 days after being made. Is there something magical about that 2-4 day window which I am not aware of? What's going on with that.

lagcam · 08-28-2011, 09:06 PM

Shouldn't the question be "Why am I still sending traffic to a site that "refunds" 80% of my $100 to $200 sign ups?"

porno jew · 08-28-2011, 09:19 PM

much of the affiliate biz is a fraud, my friend.

signupdamnit · 08-28-2011, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by lagcam

Shouldn't the question be "Why am I still sending traffic to a site that "refunds" 80% of my $100 to $200 sign ups?"

I know the $99.95 sales I send to ccbill affiliate programs rarely if ever charge back or are refunded. But I'll wait to see if someone has another logical explanation for this one. I would understand it more if they were refunded a month or a few weeks out but almost every single one which gets refunded always seems to have this occur a couple days after the initial join. It's amazing the timing unless there is some special reason for it.

Chosen · 08-29-2011, 12:36 AM

I'm not surprised...

leg4 · 08-29-2011, 12:42 AM

much of the affiliate biz is a fraud, my friend.

V_RocKs · 08-29-2011, 03:23 AM

Send your sales to someone that doesn't have to do the bidding of their shareholders... If tomorrow Nasty Dollars went public I would send all of their traffic to the dark side (Manwin) because the only thing worse than greedy fucks is greedy fucking shareholders.

HOT/ICE · 08-29-2011, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by signupdamnit

I've been noticing that most of my sales of $100 - $200 with FFN get refunded within 2 - 4 days after being made. Is there something magical about that 2-4 day window which I am not aware of? What's going on with that.

Whats your gpid I can take a look at your transactions to see if there is a pattern or solution, it could be a matter of the payments failing or partial credits ...

Jarrett Lollis
Affiliate Marketing Manager
FriendFinder Networks
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Vendot · 08-29-2011, 11:36 AM

August has been an unusually dismal sales month at FFN.... anyone else?

CamJack · 08-29-2011, 12:08 PM

Our $99 1 year memberships rarely get credited or charge backed.

IllTestYourGirls · 08-29-2011, 04:36 PM

Wow, strange to see this thread because this just happened to me as well.

What I noticed was this.

Original charge to surfer: 143.82
Amount credited back to surfer: 116.83

Leaves me with $0/pps ?

Any explanations?

HOT/ICE · 08-29-2011, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls

Wow, strange to see this thread because this just happened to me as well.

What I noticed was this.

Original charge to surfer: 143.82
Amount credited back to surfer: 116.83

Leaves me with $0/pps ?

Any explanations?

Which leaves $26.99 (membership price) I suspect the member got a partial credit for ordering a year but only wanted a month...I'm under the impression this was the culprit in (signups) case also. What we could do is possibly retroactively credit you for the orders if applicable!!! If you guys want to truly get to the bottom of this my contact info will be here all day maybe even part of tomorrow, feel free to ask and i will look them up order by order if i have to just to prove there is no safer or sane place to send traffic period!!!

Jarrett Lollis
Affiliate Marketing Manager
FriendFinder Networks
Email: [email protected]
PH#: (408) 745-5478
ICQ - 632856608
Yahoo ? thebaysbest2006
AIM - thebaysbest2011

IllTestYourGirls · 08-29-2011, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by HOT/ICE

Which leaves $26.99 (membership price) I suspect the member got a partial credit for ordering a year but only wanted a month...I'm under the impression this was the culprit in (signups) case also. What we could do is possibly retroactively credit you for the orders if applicable!!! If you guys want to truly get to the bottom of this my contact info will be here all day maybe even part of tomorrow, feel free to ask and i will look them up order by order if i have to just to prove there is no safer or sane place to send traffic period!!!

Jarrett Lollis
Affiliate Marketing Manager
FriendFinder Networks
Email: [email protected]
PH#: (408) 745-5478
ICQ - 632856608
Yahoo ? thebaysbest2006
AIM - thebaysbest2011

Ill contact you tomorrow. But wouldn't it be best to have charge back to the affiliate? Most PPS already figure in the charge backs when they create a price point. Or why program it so that if there is a partial charge back it does not charge back the affiliate? Seems like a pretty easy fix to me.

08-28-2011, 06:08 PM	#1
signupdamnit Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 6,697	Why do 80% of my $100+ affiliate sales to F.F.N. get refunded within three days? I've been noticing that most of my sales of $100 - $200 with FFN get refunded within 2 - 4 days after being made. Is there something magical about that 2-4 day window which I am not aware of? What's going on with that.

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lagcam Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 2,892	Shouldn't the question be "Why am I still sending traffic to a site that "refunds" 80% of my $100 to $200 sign ups?" __________________ Working Cam site for sale - NOT affiliate.

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CamJack Old School Webmaster Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: NY Posts: 1,334	Our $99 1 year memberships rarely get credited or charge backed. __________________ Skype: promote.promote [email protected]

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IllTestYourGirls Ah My Balls Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Under the gold leaf ICQ 388-454-421 Posts: 14,311	Wow, strange to see this thread because this just happened to me as well. What I noticed was this. Original charge to surfer: 143.82 Amount credited back to surfer: 116.83 Leaves me with $0/pps ? Any explanations? __________________

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