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Old 08-25-2011, 04:27 AM   #1
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America becomes a food stamp nation: 15 percent and climbing

More than 45 million Americans, or 15 percent of the population, use government-subsidized food stamps to feed their family today, signaling an increase of 74 percent since 2007.

http://rt.com/usa/news/food-stamps-social-security-007/

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Hell yeah. Why take that lower paying job.. I was the adf of the ced department at my last job.

I will take unemployment and food stamps instead.
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you think most people really want to live in poverty? some do and some do other things under the table.
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We've been running job ads in the USA for a while, the applicants we get are poorly prepared for telephone interviews, sloppy with presentation of CV', some cannot even construct sentences and those we have hired thus far have been relatively lazy. Compared to our Filipino staff most of them cannot compete. Which is an indictment on the US education system.
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I read one single mom get a whole 210 welfare. She cant find a job it must be living that good life on 210 a month. People have to stop listening to rightwing bullshit.
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I love it how for some reason the insane right wing seem to think that people want to sit around doing nothing living off food stamps. What about 'fair trade' agreements which were not fair in any way to America. 'Fair Trade' agreements enabled massive companies to move their whole workforce abroad at cheaper rates hence making redundant a huge slice of the American population.
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We've been running job ads in the USA for a while, the applicants we get are poorly prepared for telephone interviews, sloppy with presentation of CV', some cannot even construct sentences and those we have hired thus far have been relatively lazy. Compared to our Filipino staff most of them cannot compete. Which is an indictment on the US education system.
Ive worked with offshore filipinos, they took off all the time and generally were very sloppy with thier work. And tried to get over whenever they could.
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I love it how for some reason the insane right wing seem to think that people want to sit around doing nothing living off food stamps. What about 'fair trade' agreements which were not fair in any way to America. 'Fair Trade' agreements enabled massive companies to move their whole workforce abroad at cheaper rates hence making redundant a huge slice of the American population.
Amen you hit the nail right on the head. I think 9 percent unemployment will be the new normal.
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I read one single mom get a whole 210 welfare. She cant find a job it must be living that good life on 210 a month. People have to stop listening to rightwing bullshit.
like i said it cant be your main source of income. you have to hustle dope, copper thief, hair dress, cooking for people , cleaning
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let's get some facts straight.

Whats with these facts? Come on now people are partying on welfare cheese and 210 a month. No one one wants to face there is extreme poverty in the richest nation in the world. And if there is someone starving its their fucking fault
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You must have found poor staff, my team are excellent , the only two people I have had to part with are one who died and another who married a westerner and stopped working.
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You must have found poor staff, my team are excellent , the only two people I have had to part with are one who died and another who married a westerner and stopped working.
Just like all places some good some bad.
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someone bought a bag of chips with food stamps once. the whole program is invalid.
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Some people need food stamps and some abuse it, just the way it is. Some people can get 600 - 700 in food stamps a month, just depends on their situation. Some people sell their food stamps for 50/75 cents per dollar as well. I don't think everyone abuses it, but quite a few do. As stated above you can find small businesses that don't want to give you insurance, or pay for taxes and can hire you under the table.

There's one chick with kind of a loud mouth at my gf's job that admits she gets like 600 bucks but drives a nice car. She gets money from her man and put the car in her mom or dads name. She has a few kids and they get breaks on section 8, food stamps and medicare so she can afford to spend her job and mans money on the finer things like purses, shoes/clothes and her car. She also gets a few k back every year on her tax returns thanks to the kiddies.

Again, not saying everyone abuses it but not everyone is an angel either.

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I agree with u , its like everything some abuse things some dont. But when everyone is painted with a board stroke it annoys me
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More than 45 million Americans, or 15 percent of the population, use government-subsidized food stamps to feed their family today, signaling an increase of 74 percent since 2007.
We had the same problem here in Russia during lean years of "perestroyka".
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I agree with u , its like everything some abuse things some dont. But when everyone is painted with a board stroke it annoys me
I understand. My grandma has a few friends who live off of a small monthly ssi check, a couple hundred bucks in food stamps, and medicare for their meds a month. Most of their family is dead or in another country and they can't work anymore. They worked hard at one point cleaning rooms, or some other type of factory or manual labor, but now are just too old. Without that they would have no way to live out the rest of their lives somewhat comfortably.

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Amen you hit the nail right on the head. I think 9 percent unemployment will be the new normal.
real unemployment numbers are a lot higher. about half a million US workers have been leaving the workforce every month since the recession and of course they are not counted as unemployed any more.

instead of creating jobs they changed how workers were counted.

who knows what the real numbers are.
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Amen you hit the nail right on the head. I think 9 percent unemployment will be the new normal.
That's funny, they said the same thing when Carter was the president. Things changed when we got a good leader in there.

And you want to blame fair trade and the right wing?

Um, you do know Clinton signed NAFTA?
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real unemployment numbers are a lot higher. about half a million US workers have been leaving the workforce every month since the recession and of course they are not counted as unemployed any more.

instead of creating jobs they changed how workers were counted.

who knows what the real numbers are.
presidents have been changing the numbers for a long time, Clinton changed it to count the military to make him look better
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We've been running job ads in the USA for a while, the applicants we get are poorly prepared for telephone interviews, sloppy with presentation of CV', some cannot even construct sentences and those we have hired thus far have been relatively lazy. Compared to our Filipino staff most of them cannot compete. Which is an indictment on the US education system.
Its cultural. The education system is obviously failing, but its not the education system that breeds the "I don't fucking care, fuck you, i'm entitled, you owe me something" attitude that leaves people unprepared for the world. Shitty parenting I would say is a much bigger factor than schools. Schools in the USA are just babysitting factories, as are TV's and XBOX's. Parenting in this country is pretty much a thing of the past. The idiocracy is coming.
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I read one single mom get a whole 210 welfare. She cant find a job it must be living that good life on 210 a month. People have to stop listening to rightwing bullshit.
You are waaaaaay low for an average number, but, OK..

$210 X 10,000,000 single moms X 12 months X 50 years = beaucoup bucks

Now add-in all the baby mamas with multiple babies getting more, and the illegal aliens getting in-state tuition, and all the SSDI fraudsters, and all of the no-show/ unnecessary government jobs, and, and, and..

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real unemployment numbers are a lot higher. about half a million US workers have been leaving the workforce every month since the recession and of course they are not counted as unemployed any more.

instead of creating jobs they changed how workers were counted.

who knows what the real numbers are.
You are correct. The real numbers are crazy.

The government fudges alot of the numbers. They count people on unemployment as being employed. Liars.

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That's funny, they said the same thing when Carter was the president. Things changed when we got a good leader in there.

And you want to blame fair trade and the right wing?

Um, you do know Clinton signed NAFTA?
Clinton was another right wing light president and the boom during reagan happened after he did the largest tax increase during peacetime. Comw to think of it the other boom was after clinton raised taxes. Maybe their something there hmmmm
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I love it how for some reason the insane right wing seem to think that people want to sit around doing nothing living off food stamps.
yeah, its probably because that insane right wing goes out and finds another job when they get laid off that gives them the audacity to expect others to do the same.
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If the fucking fuel prices would go down, so would the food prices. But with milk at $6 a gallon (yes it is almost that much at walmart) and a bag of apples $6, it sort of makes it hard for poor people to afford food.

Down here the walmart has as much local food as they can so they save on transport costs (gas). Local stuff is cheaper, but only seasonal, and you get what you get.

I do the grocery shopping and if you don't spend like $100 at the store you don't get shit. I bet people are getting their food stamps. I see it at the checkout everytime. And no, it isn't just ghetto queens.
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I read one single mom get a whole 210 welfare. She cant find a job it must be living that good life on 210 a month. People have to stop listening to rightwing bullshit.
210 for Cash, but How much for Food stamps, im guessing around $450

She must be working or living with someone to reduce the benifits also.

Use logic she would be living in the street on $210.

Welfare offers child care, and job training. Min wag job pays more than that, go get one, and YEP her day care will be paid for.

Guess she also needs to find the babys daddy and get child support!
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I also forgot if she isnt living in the street, she is in section 8 housing which can be as low as Zero a month. I know a girl living in 1 year old apartments, she has a nice 2 bedroom for $40 a month. She gets $1,200 in the winter for heating and electric, and in hot summers gets up to another $500.

Bottom line,
No answer coveres everyone.
Some people abuse the system some don't, some need more.
Some people LIKE living the way they do, some do not.
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You are mistaken. There were coupons to control the demand, nothing was for free. In the US they use food stamps since Columbus ( lol ), every Jewish immigrant from ex USSR uses them to get food for FREE.
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Just for the record it isn't just the lefties that collect welfare/foodstamps and wait for the government to help them.

I grew up in a small redneck, conservative town. The towns motto might as well have been guns, god and country. It was a logging town. When I was around 12-13 some shit hit the fan and there was a dispute over the legality of logging this one area. That led to all three of the mills scaling way back. They went from working 24/7 to working one shift 5 days per week. Unemployment was through the roof in the town. I would guess that the town had at least a 25% unemployment rate because of that situation. After the first court case there was no end in sight and the mills were told that the this particular piece of land would be held up in court for years. So they had to go out and get other land to log. This would take time and money.

So did the right wingers just pick themselves up, dust themselves off and go get new jobs? Hell no! They drew unemployment and got food stamps. When that ran out many of them went on welfare and got Section 8 housing. They decided they were going to wait until the government fixed the problem with the logging area instead of getting new jobs.

That piece of land never did open back up but over the next few years the mills started buying and opening up new land so some people eventually got their jobs back, but I grew up with a handful of people who grew up on welfare and their family had no intention of ever coming off of it because they felt it was the government's fault that they lost their job. All the while they screamed about the government staying out of their lives and leaving them alone.
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Food coupons in the USSR were free.
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Just for the record it isn't just the lefties that collect welfare/foodstamps and wait for the government to help them.

I grew up in a small redneck, conservative town. The towns motto might as well have been guns, god and country. It was a logging town. When I was around 12-13 some shit hit the fan and there was a dispute over the legality of logging this one area. That led to all three of the mills scaling way back. They went from working 24/7 to working one shift 5 days per week. Unemployment was through the roof in the town. I would guess that the town had at least a 25% unemployment rate because of that situation. After the first court case there was no end in sight and the mills were told that the this particular piece of land would be held up in court for years. So they had to go out and get other land to log. This would take time and money.

So did the right wingers just pick themselves up, dust themselves off and go get new jobs? Hell no! They drew unemployment and got food stamps. When that ran out many of them went on welfare and got Section 8 housing. They decided they were going to wait until the government fixed the problem with the logging area instead of getting new jobs.

That piece of land never did open back up but over the next few years the mills started buying and opening up new land so some people eventually got their jobs back, but I grew up with a handful of people who grew up on welfare and their family had no intention of ever coming off of it because they felt it was the government's fault that they lost their job. All the while they screamed about the government staying out of their lives and leaving them alone.
growing up, you had no idea how the adults voted or knew whether they were conservative or liberal.
nice story though.
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Old 08-25-2011, 11:31 AM   #42
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Holy crap this is scary , this sounds exactly like the UK and not the US
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growing up, you had no idea how the adults voted or knew whether they were conservative or liberal.
nice story though.
You're right. Because half (well not literally,but a large amount) the vehicles in town were pickup trucks with shotguns in the gun rack and that you couldn't go anywhere without seeing an endless sea of Reagan bumper stickers and the town had 2,000 people in it and had 14 churches screams liberal. Never mind the fact that I lived in that town form the time I was seven until I was 21 so I had a pretty good grasp of what it was like when I was a little older and it hadn't changed at all during that time.

My state in general is very liberal, but it has pockets that are very conservative and I grew up in one of those pockets. You never set foot in the town and while you are a powerful and handsome man, I can assure you I know a little more about its political leanings than you do.

All I am pointing out is that there are white trash republicans out there who live off the system, but have it in their heads that what they are doing is fine for one reason or another. I grew up around a good number of them.
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i used to buy big 50lb sacks of jasmine rice at this chinatown asian grocery store because it was cheaper there and they had the good thai milagrosa rice. anyway. in checkout lines nearly 100% of the 100% asian customers paid with ebt. buying pallets of rice, soya sauce etc. I would assume they have restaurants or whatnot and use food stamps to buy their food. These same said asians have credit cards, paypal cards, and whatnot in their wallets next to their food stamp card. business as usual. so if you think its just shaneequa loading up her cart with ribs and lunchables off the food stamp program think again.
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i used to buy big 50lb sacks of jasmine rice at this chinatown asian grocery store because it was cheaper there and they had the good thai milagrosa rice. anyway. in checkout lines nearly 100% of the 100% asian customers paid with ebt. buying pallets of rice, soya sauce etc. I would assume they have restaurants or whatnot and use food stamps to buy their food. These same said asians have credit cards, paypal cards, and whatnot in their wallets next to their food stamp card. business as usual. so if you think its just shaneequa loading up her cart with ribs and lunchables off the food stamp program think again.
When I was in high school I worked at a grocery store. There were a few people that would come in and buy around $500+ in groceries pay with food stamps then load those groceries in the $40,000 trucks and SUV's. I didn't really know them so I don't know what their situation was, but the face of food stamps in this country is not just a bunch of scamming black people, there are people of all races and walks of life using them.
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When I was in high school I worked at a grocery store. There were a few people that would come in and buy around $500+ in groceries pay with food stamps then load those groceries in the $40,000 trucks and SUV's. I didn't really know them so I don't know what their situation was, but the face of food stamps in this country is not just a bunch of scamming black people, there are people of all races and walks of life using them.
thank you for not referring to just mythological rich black people on welfare and broadening your perspective to including mythological rich white people on welfare. very perceptive.
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thank you for not referring to just mythological rich black people on welfare and broadening your perspective to including mythological rich white people on welfare. very perceptive.
I never said they were rich. Here is my take. Two people get married, have a couple of kids, buy a house that is too expensive, buy a couple of cars they can barely afford and tread water. So long as they are working everything is fine. Mom stays home with the kids and dad works and they live the idealistic middle class life and are up to their eyes in debt. Then one day dad gets laid off. They still have the cars, but likely are not making the payments. They get just enough on unemployment to pay a few bills and keep themselves afloat so they get food stamps. If he gets another job things will be fine, but if not eventually they will lose the cars and likely the house and have to move and start over. Meanwhile they come to the store, buy $400 worth of groceries on food stamps and load them into their $40,000 SUV that is weeks from being repo'd.

Also, part of the reason you see illegals with very nice cars and using food stamps is that if they get deported they can take the car with them so they spend their money on cars and jewelry and cars and things they can either give to friends and family, take with them or have shipped to them.
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