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Best-In-BC · 09-06-2011, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks

Nice try, but it's the creeping socialism in the USA that is causing the problems.

sperbonzo · 09-06-2011, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

That IS the problem. The middle class CANNOT grow as long as the rich are hording money. 70% of our economy is consumer spending. Now when if you take $1 trillion and give it to the top 1% or you take that $1 trillion and give it to the bottom 50% guess who is actually going to spend it in way that will get the economy moving and create jobs? The bottom 50%. The idiot republitards thinks it's perfectly ok for the top 1% to have 95% of al the wealth because they "earned" it. Well guess what, even if you could make a case for that it's an unsustainable system and eventually they won't have any wealth either. It's not healthy for the economy for the top 1% to have that much money. If some dude has to earn "only" $1 bil a year instead of $2 bill well that guy will just have to learn how to live on "only" $2.8 mil a day.

Of course the repubs and the rich are in denial. Just like the rich were in denial about their situations in the late 18th century in France and early 20th century in Russia. How did that turn out for them? But as they say those that ignore history are doomed to repeat it.

Wealth is a river, not a pie. it is created by new products and services, it is not a fixed sum. If your neighbor becomes rich, it doesn't mean you have less. Wealth in the world is not a zero sum game. And when people talk about the rich "hording" money, in the end the money is actually held in banks, who invest it in loans, etc.... in order to make profit. The rich don't stuff the cash under their mattresses.

Why can't people understand this basic fact? Is everyone so blinded by the class envy crap? Too busy whining about "Waaaaaa! He has more than me! Waaaaaaa!" ?

In the end, it's about freedom, or lack thereof. If you want the state to run everything, to determine how much you can make, what you can produce, etc.... then make your little prison country and good luck with that. You all are welcome to trust in a huge power structure to run your lives. Funny that statists think that people are too stupid and greedy to be trusted with freedom, and then think that the people in government that they give power and legal use of force to enforce that power, are any less stupid and greedy. The only difference between my stupid greedy neighbor and my stupid greedy congressman is that my neighbor can't legally use force to take my stuff.

Personally I prefer Freedom. INCLUDING the freedom to fail.

Carry on.

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sperbonzo · 09-06-2011, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

It's funny how a country in which all the politicians are bought and paid for by the big corporations has a "creeping socialism" problem. Because we all know how big corps love socialism.

Actually Big corporations DO love big overreaching government control. It gives them the ability to influence corrupt politicians that have too much power, to create laws, taxes and regulations that squeeze out the small guys who might be potential competition and take some of their market share. So yes. Big Corps do love socialism/corporatism.

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BloodFart · 09-06-2011, 09:01 AM

I cant wait for the next civil war. As the other side gets crushed while waiting for their free guns and ammo and arguing about just how much fighting they will do before someone else should do it for them.

Cherry7 · 09-06-2011, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by CHMOD

I am sorry buddy, I have read them in french. I don't know the exact title in english.

I only speak 5 languages and I sometimes make misstakes when I write or speak
another language than my native one.

But tell me. Was it your only argument ?

I apologize ( But still hold to my point ) and It would be great to meet you in person, it sound like you would be an interesting person to talk to

Cherry7 · 09-06-2011, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by SimonScans

A few numbers on deaths due to communism.

65 million in the People's Republic of China
20 million in the Soviet Union
2 million in Cambodia
2 million in North Korea
1.7 million in Africa
1.5 million in Afghanistan
1 million in the Communist states of Eastern Europe
1 million in Vietnam
150,000 in Latin America

I thinking being dead would be the ultimate definition of not "fulfilling their human potential"

Who says?

Vietnam to take an example...The communists are responsible for what part of that countries history...?

The Japanese invasion - where the communists were on our side against the Japaneses

Against the French - when they tried to make it their colony again - thats the communists faults ?

Against the Americans - when they support the French and then go it alone in all out war...?

Chalk those deaths up to capitalism.

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BloodFart Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 728	I cant wait for the next civil war. As the other side gets crushed while waiting for their free guns and ammo and arguing about just how much fighting they will do before someone else should do it for them. __________________ Jesus = harry potter 2000 years ago.