Female Porn Star Speaks Out About Industry Talent Escorting - Page 2 - GoFuckYourself.com

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 09-06-2011, 06:27 AM

50 Porn Stars Escorting...

I feel like we in the jizz biz are all somehow related to Charlie Sheen through Tiger Blood (or some other bodily fluid).

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mariahxxx · 09-06-2011, 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

For girls with a "name"...they have ALWAYS hooked on the side. Always. This isn't some brand new, never before happened thing.
But the hard working escorts out there aren't doing that. They are tested monthly for their porn shoots, and their rich married customers INSIST on condom use.

Or maybe you could all keep babbling about them being escorts and say goodbye to some of the best girls in the porn side of the adult business.

First of all I have a "name" and in my 13 years shooting porn never once fucked off camera for a gift or cash or any other "donation" whether I had a boyfriend or not. I was approached by a madam back in 1999 when I had become established and was shooting 4 or 5 days a week and she guaranteed me 10 times what I was making then. I met with her twice and thought about it for a week and when it came down to it I couldn't do it. I wouldn't be able to live with myself if I walked into a hotel room and just let some stranger fuck me no matter the amount of money offered. I was recently offered to go to Dubai for 5 days via private plane for $50,000. I laughed at how ridiculous that is that someone would pay that much for pussy and deleted the email. But four other girls I know well went and got paid their money. More power to them, I just couldn't do it. And by the way, one of the girls that I know told me her Talent Testing test was accepted and there was no condom use by anyone there during her trip and the Prince had a test that was 19 days old.

And you are absolutely wrong about rich married customers demanding condoms. I personally know someone who is a porn star / escort and she straight up told me that if the guy has a test and pays $300 extra she'll fuck him without a condom if he's a regular of hers. She goes on escort trips with other girls all being known porn stars and she said she doesn't know a single girl who won't do bareback for extra money if the guy has a test.

And that comment about girls worrying about the cost of health care if they get sick? lol Are you fucking serious with that? These girls don't give a shit if they are going to be able to eat lunch tomorrow much less about paying for health care. What business do YOU work in?

My article wasn't about HIV, it was about the silence of the industry on this subject when virus and high risk discussions are very heated as of late. Where is the outrage that most of the big name porn stars with some exceptions of course, are sucking and fucking uncovered dicks?

To take it one step further... as men put yourself in the shoes of the escort customer. He has a date to fuck his favorite porn star. A girl he has jacked his dick to a hundred times and thinks is God's gift to cock. How long do you think he's going to last when she does the things to him he sees her do in her movies? Legs behind her head or whatever? Think it's gonna be more than a minute? I don't. But here he's paying $3500 for an hour and he's busted his nut in 60 seconds... what's he gonna do? He's gonna keep going thanks very much to the good folks at pfizer and now she's got a pool of his unborn babies swimming inside her. I guarantee that shit happens on a regular basis.

So anyone who says porn stars escorting isn't a risk to the rest of the industry they are retarded. I have never had an STD of any kind and I wish to keep it that way.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 09-06-2011, 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by mariahxxx

First of all I have a "name" and in my 13 years shooting porn never once fucked off camera for a gift or cash or any other "donation" whether I had a boyfriend or not. I was approached by a madam back in 1999 when I had become established and was shooting 4 or 5 days a week and she guaranteed me 10 times what I was making then. I met with her twice and thought about it for a week and when it came down to it I couldn't do it. I wouldn't be able to live with myself if I walked into a hotel room and just let some stranger fuck me no matter the amount of money offered. I was recently offered to go to Dubai for 5 days via private plane for $50,000. I laughed at how ridiculous that is that someone would pay that much for pussy and deleted the email. But four other girls I know well went and got paid their money. More power to them, I just couldn't do it. And by the way, one of the girls that I know told me her Talent Testing test was accepted and there was no condom use by anyone there during her trip and the Prince had a test that was 19 days old.

And you are absolutely wrong about rich married customers demanding condoms. I personally know someone who is a porn star / escort and she straight up told me that if the guy has a test and pays $300 extra she'll fuck him without a condom if he's a regular of hers. She goes on escort trips with other girls all being known porn stars and she said she doesn't know a single girl who won't do bareback for extra money if the guy has a test.

And that comment about girls worrying about the cost of health care if they get sick? lol Are you fucking serious with that? These girls don't give a shit if they are going to be able to eat lunch tomorrow much less about paying for health care. What business do YOU work in?

My article wasn't about HIV, it was about the silence of the industry on this subject when virus and high risk discussions are very heated as of late. Where is the outrage that most of the big name porn stars with some exceptions of course, are sucking and fucking uncovered dicks?

To take it one step further... as men put yourself in the shoes of the escort customer. He has a date to fuck his favorite porn star. A girl he has jacked his dick to a hundred times and thinks is God's gift to cock. How long do you think he's going to last when she does the things to him he sees her do in her movies? Legs behind her head or whatever? Think it's gonna be more than a minute? I don't. But here he's paying $3500 for an hour and he's busted his nut in 60 seconds... what's he gonna do? He's gonna keep going thanks very much to the good folks at pfizer and now she's got a pool of his unborn babies swimming inside her. I guarantee that shit happens on a regular basis.

So anyone who says porn stars escorting isn't a risk to the rest of the industry they are retarded. I have never had an STD of any kind and I wish to keep it that way.

Thanks for posting Mariah. It's nice to have some alternative voices in here.

And damn, you are a hottie!

I love girls with big boo...er, big brains!

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iamtam · 09-06-2011, 07:32 AM

so wait. piracy causes pornstars to be hookers? wow.

vsex · 09-06-2011, 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

I've been offered NFL cheerleaders as well as mainstream Hollywood actresses (no, none of the ones who are really rich of course...but the mid level stars, yes)

How do I get me some of those?

JamesGw · 09-06-2011, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix

she must have a computer installed in the kitchen

I admit, I lolled.

mariahxxx · 09-06-2011, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by iamtam

so wait. piracy causes pornstars to be hookers? wow.

Piracy has caused many of the studios to close and the reveneu of the sites that hire talent to lower their rates to the point that girls are making much less per scene, and I would assume making escorting more attractive to them. I have heard that there are girls in LA doing bg scenes for $400! I know that's the normal rate in Tampa lol but in LA? That's loooooooooooow

iamtam · 09-06-2011, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by mariahxxx

Piracy has caused many of the studios to close and the reveneu of the sites that hire talent to lower their rates to the point that girls are making much less per scene, and I would assume making escorting more attractive to them. I have heard that there are girls in LA doing bg scenes for $400! I know that's the normal rate in Tampa lol but in LA? That's loooooooooooow

but all the freetards out there keep saying that piracy has no effect and has no cost because it is just a copy, not a lost sale.

Robbie · 09-06-2011, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by mariahxxx

And you are absolutely wrong about rich married customers demanding condoms. I personally know someone who is a porn star / escort and she straight up told me that if the guy has a test and pays $300 extra she'll fuck him without a condom if he's a regular of hers. .

Of course they would fuck someone with a test and not use a condom. Who wouldn't?
I wish that women would come up to me in a nightclub and show ME a test! I'd be happy as pie! LOL!

And I appreciate what you are saying...but I'm telling you that number one: You're missing out making an extra $250,000 to $500,000 a year. And "yes" you can use a condom EVERY time.

And if you decided to only fuck on film for some moral reason...I don't know what to say. That's your choice. But this IS the adult industry. And shooting porn is merely a small offshoot of the sex industry.

I'm a "live and let live" kinda guy. And I personally think that you writing your op-ed piece will get you patted on the back and praised by some. And at the same time it puts a LOT of girls in danger of being arrested.

I'm sure that you are hoping that article will get picked up in a big way by the mainstream press and translate into traffic to your website and free publicity for you. I can understand that.

I still stand by my own experiences in this world. Escorting is a major business. Sex is one of the best things a person can enjoy in this life. And men will always pay to have a fantasy "cum" true.

I don't know what else to say on a adult business forum. And I don't want to argue about it as this isn't an issue I care to go on and on about. People in this business that stop and think about it for a second understand. Those that don't never will.

Robbie · 09-06-2011, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by iamtam

so wait. piracy causes pornstars to be hookers? wow.

No...piracy has hurt the producers, DVD sales, paysites, and male talent. The girls have ALWAYS escorted and danced at clubs.

The piracy has driven the overall revenue the girls make way UP because they are now more famous than ever. In other words more people are seeing their FULL scenes (killing all of our money) but at the same time the girls starring in the scenes are getting more people than ever in history seeing them do full scenes. And they are able to command more money escorting and stripping than ever before.

And escorting and stripping is where the money has always been for women in porn. If you don't believe me...come here to Nevada, go to the Mustang Ranch. Take an unknown girl and Sara Jay in to work there. Watch which one makes a fortune.

Then take them both to the Spearmint Rhino...watch which one makes the most money in the VIP room.

Robbie · 09-06-2011, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by mariahxxx

I was recently offered to go to Dubai for 5 days via private plane for $50,000. I laughed at how ridiculous that is that someone would pay that much for pussy and deleted the email.

Mariah...they weren't looking to "pay that much for pussy"

You are in the ADULT FANTASY business.

That is what they wanted. A fantasy. You are a star in their eyes. What do you think you are doing when you shoot a porn scene? You are providing a fantasy to men. The same thing you do on webcams. You are in the sex industry. And you are someone that your fans fantasize about being with.

So no...I wouldn't have "laughed" at someone trying to fulfill a fantasy. Charlie Sheen sure fulfilled his.

And he's not the only one. It happens all the time.

When a man works and achieves the kind of money to have the finer things in life...he does. And "pussy" is not what they were offering to pay you for.

They wanted to have the opportunity to scratch off something from their "bucket list". Hell, who doesn't fantasize those kinds of things? The difference is, that some guys actually have the means to do it.

In this current economy we struggle in...I'm glad that you were able to turn down $50,000. But goddamn...for $50 grand I'd put a wig and a pair of falsies on myself and go.

drmadcat · 09-06-2011, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

Mariah...they weren't looking to "pay that much for pussy"

You are in the ADULT FANTASY business.

That is what they wanted. A fantasy. You are a star in their eyes. What do you think you are doing when you shoot a porn scene? You are providing a fantasy to men. The same thing you do on webcams. You are in the sex industry. And you are someone that your fans fantasize about being with.

So no...I wouldn't have "laughed" at someone trying to fulfill a fantasy. Charlie Sheen sure fulfilled his.

And he's not the only one. It happens all the time.

When a man works and achieves the kind of money to have the finer things in life...he does. And "pussy" is not what they were offering to pay you for.

They wanted to have the opportunity to scratch off something from their "bucket list". Hell, who doesn't fantasize those kinds of things? The difference is, that some guys actually have the means to do it.

In this current economy we struggle in...I'm glad that you were able to turn down $50,000. But goddamn...for $50 grand I'd put a wig and a pair of falsies on myself and go.

in perth you could make 50g in a few weeks escorting

Robbie · 09-06-2011, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by drmadcat

in perth you could make 50g in a few weeks escorting

You mean me personally?

I may have to fly out there on "business" for a couple of weeks.

drmadcat · 09-06-2011, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

You mean me personally?

I may have to fly out there on "business" for a couple of weeks.

well i could try give me a call when you get here

Robbie · 09-06-2011, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by drmadcat

well i could try give me a call when you get here

PR_Glen · 09-06-2011, 11:08 AM

We appreciate to hear your side of the matter Mariah, but blaming recent events on escorting is pretty pointless. Even if it is true there is absolutely no way to control it whether they escort or not, and no real way to prove if they have or not.

The only thing that would help is to have tighter regulation on testing, have people tested shortly before shooting, a month is far too much time. A few days would even be better, I'm no expert but I'm pretty sure it can't infect you to the point of spreading it after only a few days--correct me if i am wrong though.

oops not really posted by her, my bad.

Porno Dan · 09-06-2011, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

And I appreciate what you are saying...but I'm telling you that number one: You're missing out making an extra $250,000 to $500,000 a year. And "yes" you can use a condom EVERY time.

Things have changed a lot in the last few years.

I know a LOT of porn stars that work for the two biggest escort agencies out here, TLC and MPP, and they do NOT get the option of using condoms.

In fact almost all of the calls they do are done bareback

Also the girls don't make anywhere near what they used for escort calls. Most porn stars see guys for around $300 to $500.

One of the main reasons these guys pay the premium for a porn star is so they can fuck them without a condom.

This is one of the main reasons we have such a high rate of chlamydia and gonorrhea in the adult industry, if everyone was only fucking people that were tested and people got treated when they tested positive there would not be so many stds.

Kenny B! · 09-06-2011, 12:11 PM

Mariah's opinion is as worthless as she is, the whore can't even pay back a $200 loan.

Cunt!

JP-pornshooter · 09-06-2011, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Porno Dan

Things have changed a lot in the last few years.

I know a LOT of porn stars that work for the two biggest escort agencies out here, TLC and MPP, and they do NOT get the option of using condoms.

In fact almost all of the calls they do are done bareback

Also the girls don't make anywhere near what they used for escort calls. Most porn stars see guys for around $300 to $500.

One of the main reasons these guys pay the premium for a porn star is so they can fuck them without a condom.

This is one of the main reasons we have such a high rate of chlamydia and gonorrhea in the adult industry, if everyone was only fucking people that were tested and people got treated when they tested positive there would not be so many stds.

finally a good post by Dan

fact if escorting pays more than modeling, it is less work and your family cant find pics of you smoking dick....

but i think it is still illegal, perhaps time to legitimize it and demand "health cards" updated monthly with testing.

Robbie · 09-06-2011, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Porno Dan

Things have changed a lot in the last few years.

I know a LOT of porn stars that work for the two biggest escort agencies out here, TLC and MPP, and they do NOT get the option of using condoms.

In fact almost all of the calls they do are done bareback

Also the girls don't make anywhere near what they used for escort calls. Most porn stars see guys for around $300 to $500.

One of the main reasons these guys pay the premium for a porn star is so they can fuck them without a condom.

This is one of the main reasons we have such a high rate of chlamydia and gonorrhea in the adult industry, if everyone was only fucking people that were tested and people got treated when they tested positive there would not be so many stds.

Those are girls working for agencies. That's not where the money is and I can guarantee you that the girls making the most money out here call their own shots and DO use condoms.

You should know that.

Robbie · 09-06-2011, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Kenny B!

Mariah's opinion is as worthless as she is, the whore can't even pay back a $200 loan.
Cunt!

Don't you think that's a little uncalled for? This is a discussion, not a name-calling session.

Kenny B! · 09-06-2011, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

Don't you think that's a little uncalled for? This is a discussion, not a name-calling session.

Maybe I should have started with...
We all sell sex in one form or another and it's still much safer to be having sex with someone who is in the industry than a random hook-up from a bar. If she doesn't like the way the industry as a whole operates than she should find a new line of work.

Mariah has no problem calling out performers who sell sex on screen and off and says they can't be trusted. She's a liar, hypocrite and thief and anyone who is reading what she writes shouldn't take it at face value. If she had to borrow $200 from me and still can't pay it back then she shouldn't have deleted the email from Saudi royalty offering her $50k, but I don't believe that happened, maybe she confused it with another email from a Nigerian prince with $50k, in which case I've gotten a few emails from him and deleted them as well.

Mariah has fucked over a few people, so I have no issue coming in here and calling her names. I have her real name and a copy of her ID from when she was using my cam network yet I am decent enough to not make that info public. Let me have my fun, I haven't gotten my two hundred bucks worth yet

Casanova · 09-06-2011, 03:02 PM

Very well said Mariah. She identified the problem but offered no solution. Pornstars who escort will keep on doing it.

Robbie · 09-06-2011, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Casanova

Pornstars who escort will keep on doing it.

I really don't get what all the hoopla over that is anyway. Sex is FUN. Getting paid for doing something that is fun...is even better!

Nobody here can speak for what every girl in the adult industry does behind close doors, or what a "agent" in LA says or does. But the bottom line is this:
If the world suddenly turned upside down, and the vast majority of women suddenly would pay men to have sex...I'd be an escort. No doubt about it. I LOVE sex. I LOVE money.

So no, I find no fault with hot girls escorting and making lots of money. I'm just shocked that so many folks on an adult industry (which is the SEX industry) message board have problems with girls escorting.

Escorts, strippers, & porn stars are the cleanest girls on earth. I've caught the clap a few times since the 1980's and I never got anything from a girl in the sex industry. It was always from some "civilian" girl. First time was from a beautiful college coed that I fucked in Daytona Beach during spring break in 1984. Last girl in the world you would have thought would have the clap.

But sex industry girls? They make their living with that pussy. They can't take a chance on anything going wrong.

Anyway...I just hope that all this talk doesn't set the govt. to trying to arrest high dollar escorts now. Jesus Fuck, they have taken away almost every last goddamn thing that's any fun in this world. Please don't get them started and cost us our fantasy hookers too.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 09-06-2011, 04:44 PM

Fun Facts About the Oldest Profession:

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It is difficult to estimate the number of persons who currently work, or have ever worked as prostitutes for many reasons including the various definitions of prostitution. National arrest figures range over 100,000. The National Task Force on Prostitution suggests that over one million people in the US have worked as prostitutes in the United States, or about 1% of American women.(1)

-- Average prostitution arrests include 70% females, 20% percent male prostitutes and 10% customers.(2) In the 1990's some cities initiated client arrest programs which raised the percentage of client arrests. A disproportionate number of prostitutes arrested are women of color, and although a minority of prostitutes are women of color, a large majority of those sentenced to jail are women of color. 85-90% of those arrested work on the street though street work accounts for approximately 20% of prostitutes. (Figures vary from city to city.)

-- The ratio of on-street prostitution to off-street (sauna, massage parlor, in call-outcall escort) varies in cities depending on local law, policy and custom. Whereas street prostitution accounts for between 10 to 20% of the prostitution in larger cities such as Los Angeles, San Francisco and New York, (3) in some smaller cities with limited indoor venues (or when indoor venues are closed down) street prostitution may account for approximately 50%.(4)

-- Percentages of male and female prostitutes varies from city to city. Estimates in San Francisco suggests 20-30% of prostitutes are male; In San Francisco, it has been estimated that 25% of the female prostitutes are transgender.(5) (These figures are not necessarily representative of the gender of prostitutes in general.)

-- Incidence of substance use and addiction varies widely. Studies in the United States found prevalence of substance use and addiction ranging from 0% to 84%, depending on the population being studied, with substance addiction relatively common among street prostitutes (c. 50%)(6) but rare among women who work off the street. One study showed that nearly 50% of one population of women who used drugs did so before becoming prostitutes.(7)

-- The U.S. Department of Health consistently reports that only 3-5% of the sexually transmitted disease in this country is related to prostitution (compared with 30-35% among teenagers). There is no statistical indication in the U.S. that prostitutes are vectors of HIV. Although a small percentage of prostitutes may be HIV positive, William Darrow, CDC AIDS epidemiology official, cites no proven cases of HIV transmission from prostitutes to clients.(8)

-- Violence is one of the major problems for women and prostitutes. Figures vary, one report citing 60% of the abuse against street prostitutes perpetrated by clients, 20% by police and 20% in domestic relationships.(9) According to one massage parlor owner, over 90% of abuse against prostitutes (she has known) takes place within domestic relationships.(10) Between 35 and 85% of prostitutes are survivors of incest or early sexual abuse. (Figures vary widely for different populations.)(11) In a sample of clients from St. James Infirmary, a sex worker clinic in San Francisco 53% of their sample experienced "past or current occupational violence" including 32% by customers, 20% from employers and 15% by police. Only 3% reported incidents to the police. (12) A study of 130 street workers (primarily homeless) who engaged in prostitution or survival sex found that 80% had been physically assaulted.(13) Some prostitutes are raped between 8 and 10 times a year or more. 7% seek help (e.g.., from a rape crisis center), and only 4% report the rape to the police.(14) A study in Toronto showed that, in cases of (non-domestic) rape and abuse, 5% of the perpetrators identified themselves as police officers, often producing badges and police identification. (This does not include actual cases of police misconduct and rape.)(15) Although violence and the threat of violence is a serious problem, some populations of prostitutes show no higher incidence of violence and abuse than women in general.

--Some researchers suggest that prostitutes, in general, suffer from 'negative identities' or lack of self esteem. A 1986 study by Diane Prince, however, found call girls and brothel workers had higher self esteem than before they became prostitutes. 97% of call girls liked themselves 'more than before.' (This study also examines suicide rates, and is often misquoted, referring to a statistic regarding call-girls. In the context of pathologizing prostitutes, some mistakenly report that 75% percent of call girls have attempted suicide, however, according to this study 76% of call girls considered (not attempted) suicide, along with 61% of non-prostitutes, and only 42% of brothel workers.)(16)

-- Although little research has been done regarding client profiles, anecdotal reports and arrest statistic indicate that clients also vary widely in terms of race and class. In a study in London, England 50% of clients were married, or cohabiting. According to Kinsey's report, 70% of adult men have engaged in prostitution at least once. Male prostitutes sometimes report that their clients include married men who identify as heterosexual. Customers are rarely arrested more than once for prostitution and are infrequently jailed.

-- Police officers arrest prostitutes for 'public nuisance' or 'loitering' violations or by disguising themselves as customers. They will approach someone they suspect of prostitution, and solicit(17) their services until this person is deceived into agreeing to perform sex for money.(18) The individual is then arrested for offering or agreeing to an act of prostitution. Arrests of prostitutes necessarily include the use of entrapment, an invasion of privacy, and/or the use of discriminatory laws or tactics.

-- From a report in the 1980s, average arrest, court and incarceration costs amount to nearly $ 2,000.00 per arrest. Cities spend an average of 7.5 million dollars on prostitution control every year, ranging from 1 million dollars (Memphis) to 23 million dollars (New York).(19)

--In 1949, the United Nations adopted a resolution in favor of the decriminalization of prostitution for individual prostitutes, which has been ratified by fifty countries (not by the United States). Many European countries including France and the United Kingdom decriminalize prostitution per se, leaving all related activities criminal such as soliciting, advertising, etc. In 1973 the National Organization for Women passed a resolution supporting the decriminalization of prostitution.

Be safe...

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Robbie · 09-06-2011, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

Be safe...

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There is nothing even close about streetwalkers and high dollar escorts. Completely different worlds between a girl who makes a quarter million to half a million dollars a year having sex with wealthy gentleman VS a girl on a street corner giving blowjobs for $50 to support a crack habit.

It doesn't even belong in this conversation.

shimmy2 · 09-06-2011, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

shooting porn is merely a small offshoot of the sex industry.

mariahxxx · 09-06-2011, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Kenny B!

.... I have her real name and a copy of her ID from when she was using my cam network yet I am decent enough to not make that info public. Let me have my fun, I haven't gotten my two hundred bucks worth yet

Yeah your cam network that decided on the day of payouts that the thousands of dollars I referred in sales should be charged back even though your rep went on GG&J saying that your company eats all chargebacks because of your high confidence in your scrubbing. On top of that you refused to provide one piece of evidence that my customer charged back and I continued to get sales notification emails for 2 weeks after the incident.

You are a douche bag internet porn dinosaur who has nothing more to do with his time than troll GFY and cry about $200 from 7 years ago. If I had $100 million I wouldn't give you 50 cents. I don't give a shit if you post my real name and ID. It would just show the type of person you are.

And once again I see someone doesn't have any reading comprehension and sees the article written about girls escorting when it really isn't. It's about the fact that it's rampant and it's bringing high risk to set every day yet no one is saying a fucking word about it. That's what the article is about. The focus being on the easier target of cross over male gay for pay.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 09-06-2011, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Kenny B!

Let me have my fun, I haven't gotten my two hundred bucks worth yet

Bitch fight!!!

Honestly, I don't have a whore...er, horse in this race

IMHO (In My Horny Opinion), Mariah wins by a pussy hair...although nice pro technique with the balls there Kenny!

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Biggy2 · 09-06-2011, 11:28 PM

1. Why is that way more men have been exposed to HIV, than women in this business, yet it is way more difficult for a man to get HIV from a female in sex?

2. As for escorting, if you can prove to me that with escorting girls are now more promiscuous than say 2-3 years ago off set, you might have an indirect point, but then you would have to totally ignore the stats and my implied point in #1.

Mariah, you should approach OSHA and see if they want to pay your fee to your next shoot, because I doubt the likes of Manwin, Naughty America, Hustler, or any other major producer is going to read your open-invite to OSHA for more regulation and be happy. If you feel your at risk, you have the ability to exert that influence on set, for when and if people book you, and when you feel there could be direct exposure.

The rest just sounds like bitterness and drama.

TiaLing · 09-06-2011, 11:51 PM

It really cracks me up to hear some of you rag on a porn girls intelligence given the stupidity of some of the statements in this thread.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 09-07-2011, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by TiaLing

It really cracks me up to hear some of you rag on a porn girls intelligence given the stupidity of some of the statements in this thread.

I think that it's either a male brain thing...

...or it's a dick thing:

I'll let you know after I rub one out and have some time to think about it...

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Robbie · 09-07-2011, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by TiaLing

It really cracks me up to hear some of you rag on a porn girls intelligence given the stupidity of some of the statements in this thread.

I think everybody should take a deep breath and a couple of steps back.

This should remain a conversation in my opinion. Not people ripping into each other...again.

There are lots of valid opinions and viewpoints here in this thread. Everyone has different experiences and knowledge from those experiences.

I'm of the viewpoint that writing that op-ed piece was not a good thing to do. Everything that is put out like that ends up being ammunition for the govt. and the enemies of our industry to use against us.

That was my gripe. I just didn't see any need for that piece. Everybody in and out of the industry already knows the score. Hell, there are entire websites with girls and rates posted.

In my humble opinion...with no animosity at all...I just disagree with Mariah writing that. It becomes something that anti-porn forces can point to and say: "See! One of their own said it!"

gideongallery · 09-07-2011, 03:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

No...piracy has hurt the producers, DVD sales, paysites, and male talent. The girls have ALWAYS escorted and danced at clubs.

The piracy has driven the overall revenue the girls make way UP because they are now more famous than ever. In other words more people are seeing their FULL scenes (killing all of our money) but at the same time the girls starring in the scenes are getting more people than ever in history seeing them do full scenes. And they are able to command more money escorting and stripping than ever before.

And escorting and stripping is where the money has always been for women in porn. If you don't believe me...come here to Nevada, go to the Mustang Ranch. Take an unknown girl and Sara Jay in to work there. Watch which one makes a fortune.

Then take them both to the Spearmint Rhino...watch which one makes the most money in the VIP room.

lol

you do realize that when you were arguing with me you claimed the exact opposite.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 09-07-2011, 04:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

I think everybody should take a deep breath and a couple of steps back.

This should remain a conversation in my opinion. Not people ripping into each other...again.

There are lots of valid opinions and viewpoints here in this thread. Everyone has different experiences and knowledge from those experiences.

I'm of the viewpoint that writing that op-ed piece was not a good thing to do. Everything that is put out like that ends up being ammunition for the govt. and the enemies of our industry to use against us.

That was my gripe. I just didn't see any need for that piece. Everybody in and out of the industry already knows the score. Hell, there are entire websites with girls and rates posted.

In my humble opinion...with no animosity at all...I just disagree with Mariah writing that. It becomes something that anti-porn forces can point to and say: "See! One of their own said it!"

I think when diverse viewpoints are expressed, it is a positive thing which shows that the adult industry, like the public-at-large, has a wide range of attitudes, beliefs, and practices.

I've had a few assumptions challenged, and even learned a few things, in this thread.

I for one am pleased to have articulate women in this industry speak up and make their voices heard, even though I may not always agree with them completely.

Since I shoot a lot of glam and softcore in addition to hardcore, I know that there are lots of models/performers for whom the sideshow fame which the adult industry offers is more fame than they ever possibly imagined (videos, magazines, tradeshows) - it can all be very exciting and seductive for them.

When models who have dreamed of modeling most of their lives are picked up and taken out for a manicure/pedicure, then get to sit in a make-up chair for the first time, and have a whole crew scurrying around to help them look and do their best, some practically forget about the pay.

Granted, many if not most girls in LA/Miami/NYC, are often more jaded, and for some it's all about the money first. For them, perhaps it's not such a big leap into escorting.

Anyway, I have mixed feeling on the whole issue, in part because I believe that prostitution (if you want to call it that), should be legalized, and protected for health and safety (even if that requires some regulation, taxation, etc).

Since I am in the content side of the industry, my primary interest is focused on ensuring the health and safety of our performers, which is difficult enough as is. I think it just gets way more complicated when civilians are added to the mix.

In a perfect world, it would be nice perhaps if we could pay our adult performers well enough that escorting would need not be a financial consideration, but this is far from a perfect world.

At the end of the night I say say dance this mess around!!!

ADG

eroticsexxx · 09-07-2011, 10:07 AM

Mariah does make a very good point, but as usual Robbie tells it how it is, raw and honestly.

I'm still trying to wrap my mind around the idea that escorting is somehow morally different than having sex on a porn set. You're getting paid to have sex in both instances.

Seeing that the industry already has an image issue in regards to how the general public perceives its participants, we all should be very careful about how we portray our own and what we say about our own.

Escorting does increase the risk of STI's spreading throughout the industry, but when it comes to the money it's a clear winner. If a client decides that she and her friends want to be fucked all weekend while their husbands are on a "hunting trip" and are willing to pay $15,000, including travel costs, I would be there with my cock in hand. Hypothetically speaking, that is.

Casting blame here and there solves nothing. We all know the risky behaviors involved with this industry. Voicing them is good, but we should take care not to be too judgmental. If there is one group of persons that should be open-minded in regards to what goes on during sex between consenting adults, it should be us.

The industry actually guides the fantasies involved with one of the most powerful human desires on the planet. Why aren't we collectively using that power to change public and government perception in our favor? Different viewpoints should not be allowed to hamper such a force.

Let's get it together, shall we?

JP-pornshooter · 09-07-2011, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by mariahxxx

And once again I see someone doesn't have any reading comprehension and sees the article written about girls escorting when it really isn't. It's about the fact that it's rampant and it's bringing high risk to set every day yet no one is saying a fucking word about it. That's what the article is about. The focus being on the easier target of cross over male gay for pay.

but we need hookers...

and we cant fix that problem so its easier just to put all blame on them gheys..

Phoenix · 09-07-2011, 11:16 AM

Mariah has her own affiliate program

check it out http://pornstarpayday.com/

she has tons of content

some good sites as well
www.fuckedwithastrapon.com looks like it will sell for sure

Just Alex · 09-07-2011, 11:26 AM

She's right on the money, but it will never happen. Too much drugs involved in this.

Qbert · 09-07-2011, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix

Mariah has her own affiliate program

check it out pornstarpayday.com

she has tons of content

Which hasn't been updated in nearly a year.

Kenny B! · 09-07-2011, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

Bitch fight!!!

Honestly, I don't have a whore...er, horse in this race

IMHO (In My Horny Opinion), Mariah wins by a pussy hair...although nice pro technique with the balls there Kenny!

ADG

Now that was funny!

That damn pic will haunt me forever, you put one fake cock in your mouth and no one let's you forget it! Sure hope I didn't catch the aids!

LoriAnderson · 09-07-2011, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by czarina

well said! I completely agree with her point. But it's not only the escorting girls, it is talent in general... how about porngirls who go to a bar, pick up a guy and have unprotected sex just because?
how about gay talent who pick up guys at a party and spend a weekend of wild sex, then again unprotected?
Don't tell me it doesn't happen. I've been in this industry for a looooooooooong time and have seen it all

Agreed

nikki99 · 09-07-2011, 04:26 PM

interesting reading..........

TiaLing · 09-07-2011, 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie

I think everybody should take a deep breath and a couple of steps back.

This should remain a conversation in my opinion. Not people ripping into each other...again.

There are lots of valid opinions and viewpoints here in this thread. Everyone has different experiences and knowledge from those experiences.

I'm of the viewpoint that writing that op-ed piece was not a good thing to do. Everything that is put out like that ends up being ammunition for the govt. and the enemies of our industry to use against us.

That was my gripe. I just didn't see any need for that piece. Everybody in and out of the industry already knows the score. Hell, there are entire websites with girls and rates posted.

In my humble opinion...with no animosity at all...I just disagree with Mariah writing that. It becomes something that anti-porn forces can point to and say: "See! One of their own said it!"

I didn't start the ripping .... the same people always seem to rip the very talent that supports their living. While ripping them .... as producers , shooters or whatever, they don't even know What an Elisa test, PCDNR test or Western Blot test is. Sorry, but if you're a producer / shooter you should know that.

Mariah can post whatever she wants .... Freedom of speech, and to some degree she's right .... it is a problem. It's become a more recent problem than 4 or 5 years ago because back then there was more than enough work to go around and girls didn't have to escort to make their money, but these days it's become the norm. Sorry, if you think that most agents in the business don't set up escorting your just being nieve or turning your head, because most of them do . Maybe not all, but most, and a lot of them are the larger agents. However, when I say she's right to some degree .... I mean it's only the beginning of the issue. Like some others have said, it's just as much escorting as it is Male / female talent banging someone else the night before after partying that isn't in the industry and not tested. Hell that's probably a bigger issue. Question is , what can you do to prevent it .... nothing ... even if you stopped the escorting , which i have no idea how you would, how are you gonna stop some party maniac from banging anyone and everyone any chance they get ? This most recent Hiv scare is a perfect example .... regardless of whether pt 0 turned out negative, people on the quarantine list were still running around trying to bang people. Some people just don't give a shit . It's a scary thought .... but it is what it is. 15 day testing would be a great step in the right direction. If you're gonna complain about it as a model , well then go back to your old job before porn, plain and simple.

Robbie · 09-07-2011, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by TiaLing

Mariah can post whatever she wants .... Freedom of speech, and to some degree she's right .... it is a problem. It's become a more recent problem than 4 or 5 years ago because back then there was more than enough work to go around and girls didn't have to escort to make their money,

On the subject of the conversation turning nasty, Tia I wasn't talking about you girls. I was talking about how some of the discussions on here quickly degenerate...and it's mostly us guys doing it.

As for freedom of speech...of course we all have that. But keep in mind that by posting that kind of thing the govt. will use our "freedom" of speech to possibly take away more of our freedoms in the process. They use those kind of statements as "proof" that the porn industry is "evil". You know how they are and how they twist stuff.

As for escorting? It has never been a "problem". Girls have ALWAYS done it...and it's not a "problem" at all. And the money made for a porn shoot has NOTHING to do with it.

I was talking to a friend of mine today who is the husband of a VERY well known porn star who got into the business at the end of the 1980's and just caught the tail end of the "big time" in porn.

He told me that she would get $35,000 to be shot for 3 sets of photos for a magazine. She was flown in to exotic locations, given a big suite, a limousine. he told me they even had a private chef on set for him and her. Guess what? She was still a high dollar escort.

It has nothing to do with the money being paid by guys shooting porn scenes. They have never and never will match the money that girls with a name make escorting.

And yeah, I know that a lot of porn girls get burnt out and don't even enjoy sex as much anymore. But not all of them. Some girls LOVE sex. And men LOVE to pay them for it.

I see no "problem" there. I'm just kinda surprised that you call it a "problem" and that many others in this business are calling it that.

Way before you or even I were in this business...the girls escorted. They always have and always will. This is not something that suddenly started happening a lot 4 to 5 years ago. It really isn't.

My first taste of "porn star" escort was in 1999 when I flew to L.A. to talk some business with a company. They laid out the red carpet for me. When they asked me what I wanted to do while in L.A., I mentioned a girl who was on the cover of one of the "big 3" porn mags.

They told me "no problem". She showed up at my hotel room that night at 10 p.m. and I had a fantastic time seeing one of my fantasies come true.

That was twelve years ago. And this particular girl was making more money than you can imagine at the time. Didn't mean she was going to walk away from making even MORE easy money.

Flash forward to 2011...the ONLY thing I see different is the fact that there are escort sites which list them now. Back then, it was more on the down low. But please trust me...if I had had the money back in the 1980's I could have fucked any major studio porn star girl that I wanted. I wasn't old enough in the 1970's or I would have been able to do it then too. Of course same for the 1990's and 2000's.

It's not a "problem". It's a part of the adult industry...which is the SEX industry. I would think that people in our business would be a little more broad minded and not so hung up.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 09-07-2011, 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie

On the subject of the conversation turning nasty, Tia I wasn't talking about you girls. I was talking about how some of the discussions on here quickly degenerate...and it's mostly us guys doing it.

As for freedom of speech...of course we all have that. But keep in mind that by posting that kind of thing the govt. will use our "freedom" of speech to possibly take away more of our freedoms in the process. They use those kind of statements as "proof" that the porn industry is "evil". You know how they are and how they twist stuff.

As for escorting? It has never been a "problem". Girls have ALWAYS done it...and it's not a "problem" at all. And the money made for a porn shoot has NOTHING to do with it.

I was talking to a friend of mine today who is the husband of a VERY well known porn star who got into the business at the end of the 1980's and just caught the tail end of the "big time" in porn.

He told me that she would get $35,000 to be shot for 3 sets of photos for a magazine. She was flown in to exotic locations, given a big suite, a limousine. he told me they even had a private chef on set for him and her. Guess what? She was still a high dollar escort.

It has nothing to do with the money being paid by guys shooting porn scenes. They have never and never will match the money that girls with a name make escorting.

And yeah, I know that a lot of porn girls get burnt out and don't even enjoy sex as much anymore. But not all of them. Some girls LOVE sex. And men LOVE to pay them for it.

I see no "problem" there. I'm just kinda surprised that you call it a "problem" and that many others in this business are calling it that.

Way before you or even I were in this business...the girls escorted. They always have and always will. This is not something that suddenly started happening a lot 4 to 5 years ago. It really isn't.

My first taste of "porn star" escort was in 1999 when I flew to L.A. to talk some business with a company. They laid out the red carpet for me. When they asked me what I wanted to do while in L.A., I mentioned a girl who was on the cover of one of the "big 3" porn mags.

They told me "no problem". She showed up at my hotel room that night at 10 p.m. and I had a fantastic time seeing one of my fantasies come true.

That was twelve years ago. And this particular girl was making more money than you can imagine at the time. Didn't mean she was going to walk away from making even MORE easy money.

Flash forward to 2011...the ONLY thing I see different is the fact that there are escort sites which list them now. Back then, it was more on the down low. But please trust me...if I had had the money back in the 1980's I could have fucked any major studio porn star girl that I wanted. I wasn't old enough in the 1970's or I would have been able to do it then too. Of course same for the 1990's and 2000's.

It's not a "problem". It's a part of the adult industry...which is the SEX industry. I would think that people in our business would be a little more broad minded and not so hung up.

Can I come live with you and Claudia Marie?

ADG

marlboroack · 09-07-2011, 10:45 PM

Look, i love asian women. Leave me alone.

Robbie · 09-07-2011, 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

Can I come live with you and Claudia Marie?

ADG

I have often thought that eventually you and I would team up in superhero costumes to fight crime.

But seriously...after reading Tia's threads, I'm starting to come to the sad realization that I'm never gonna have a fantasy one on one private session with Tia Ling.

Tia, please reconsider.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 09-07-2011, 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie

I have often thought that eventually you and I would team up in superhero costumes to fight crime.

But seriously...after reading Tia's threads, I'm starting to come to the sad realization that I'm never gonna have a fantasy one on one private session with Tia Ling.

Tia, please reconsider.

I could always hire both of you for an Asian Diva Girls scene...

As for teaming up as Superheroes, I've been giving some thought to that too, "Ace":

ADG

Robbie · 09-08-2011, 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

As for teaming up as Superheroes, I've been giving some thought to that too, "Ace"
ADG

So instead of being "ADG" you would be one half of "AGD" ?

09-06-2011, 06:27 AM	#51
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09-06-2011, 11:08 AM	#66
PR_Glen Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 9,058	We appreciate to hear your side of the matter Mariah, but blaming recent events on escorting is pretty pointless. Even if it is true there is absolutely no way to control it whether they escort or not, and no real way to prove if they have or not. The only thing that would help is to have tighter regulation on testing, have people tested shortly before shooting, a month is far too much time. A few days would even be better, I'm no expert but I'm pretty sure it can't infect you to the point of spreading it after only a few days--correct me if i am wrong though. oops not really posted by her, my bad. __________________ webmaster at pimproll dot com Last edited by PR_Glen; 09-06-2011 at 11:17 AM..

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09-06-2011, 11:28 PM	#80
Biggy2 Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 1,821	1. Why is that way more men have been exposed to HIV, than women in this business, yet it is way more difficult for a man to get HIV from a female in sex? 2. As for escorting, if you can prove to me that with escorting girls are now more promiscuous than say 2-3 years ago off set, you might have an indirect point, but then you would have to totally ignore the stats and my implied point in #1. Mariah, you should approach OSHA and see if they want to pay your fee to your next shoot, because I doubt the likes of Manwin, Naughty America, Hustler, or any other major producer is going to read your open-invite to OSHA for more regulation and be happy. If you feel your at risk, you have the ability to exert that influence on set, for when and if people book you, and when you feel there could be direct exposure. The rest just sounds like bitterness and drama. Last edited by Biggy2; 09-06-2011 at 11:31 PM..

09-06-2011, 07:32 AM	#54
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09-07-2011, 10:07 AM	#86
eroticsexxx Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nassau, Bahamas Posts: 3,133	Mariah does make a very good point, but as usual Robbie tells it how it is, raw and honestly. I'm still trying to wrap my mind around the idea that escorting is somehow morally different than having sex on a porn set. You're getting paid to have sex in both instances. Seeing that the industry already has an image issue in regards to how the general public perceives its participants, we all should be very careful about how we portray our own and what we say about our own. Escorting does increase the risk of STI's spreading throughout the industry, but when it comes to the money it's a clear winner. If a client decides that she and her friends want to be fucked all weekend while their husbands are on a "hunting trip" and are willing to pay $15,000, including travel costs, I would be there with my cock in hand. Hypothetically speaking, that is. Casting blame here and there solves nothing. We all know the risky behaviors involved with this industry. Voicing them is good, but we should take care not to be too judgmental. If there is one group of persons that should be open-minded in regards to what goes on during sex between consenting adults, it should be us. The industry actually guides the fantasies involved with one of the most powerful human desires on the planet. Why aren't we collectively using that power to change public and government perception in our favor? Different viewpoints should not be allowed to hamper such a force. Let's get it together, shall we? __________________ Last edited by eroticsexxx; 09-07-2011 at 10:14 AM..

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