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gideongallery · 09-10-2011, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters

Isn't it amazing how resistant people are to understanding this simple law.

It's so basic : "If you didn't create it then pay for licensing or don't use it".

So simple.

it so simple because it totally wrong

vcr did not get permission or licience the tv shows they recorded

diamond rio did licience all the music they converted to mp3

fair use authorized that action without the "infringer" paying a cent in liciensing fees

RycEric · 09-10-2011, 05:31 PM

Just talked to a non-GFY copyright attorney about this thread.

The broadcast provider is not liable, as a provider, if they are NOT placing the content there themselves. In other words... if the girls are camming from their homes and through their connections.. this whole music deal is on them.

DWB · 09-10-2011, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by StripperCash

Ive found that fines backfire

You speaking as a cam site, model or studio?

It doesn't stop any of the girls from doing whatever it is they were fined for. Like strippers, hookers, and porn chicks, most cam girls have no concept of a dollar.

DWB · 09-10-2011, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by RycEric

Just talked to a non-GFY copyright attorney about this thread.

GFY armchair lawyers know better. Duh.

fris · 09-10-2011, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Deej

Its open to their discretion and it depends on what sort of video it is.

I just uploaded a video today that has copyright music in it. I did last week and I will continue to do so. Youtube emails each time before its even live to the public telling me they know and that I need not take any actions.

So, not sure what type of vid you are talking about, I have heard of this. But its never happened to me.

half the time i dont realize it cause i always have music playing in the background, i guess from now on i will have to turn my music off ;)

RycEric · 09-10-2011, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DWB

GFY armchair lawyers know better. Duh.

Argos88 · 09-10-2011, 06:10 PM

it's always funny to see some IDEALISTIC Ignorant HOPERS.. it reminds me that their mentality is the same the movie with sylvester stallone and wesley snipes.

bDok · 09-11-2011, 12:50 AM

OP troll doing it for the lawlz.

CurrentlySober · 09-11-2011, 12:53 AM

i cant afford copyright music, to upload to youtube. in order to check...

Ethersync · 09-11-2011, 04:23 AM

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Originally Posted by RycEric

Just talked to a non-GFY copyright attorney about this thread.

The broadcast provider is not liable, as a provider, if they are NOT placing the content there themselves. In other words... if the girls are camming from their homes and through their connections.. this whole music deal is on them.

Exactly.

Barry-xlovecam · 09-11-2011, 06:30 AM

Just avoid the whole issue ...

Don't do it — getting into a "pissing contest" is always a poor choice ...

Brad Mitchell · 09-11-2011, 06:39 AM

Employee training and employer oversight.. Not a novel concept.

Brad

helterskelter808 · 09-11-2011, 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by RycEric

Just talked to a non-GFY copyright attorney about this thread.

The broadcast provider is not liable, as a provider, if they are NOT placing the content there themselves. In other words... if the girls are camming from their homes and through their connections.. this whole music deal is on them.

It's 'on the performer' the same way as its 'on' someone who uploads content to any site. They might be responsible for what they upload, but the site is responsible for taking it down, once notified, as well as making sure it doesn't happen again - ie, warning the performer/user not to do it again or risk termination.

ArsewithClass · 09-11-2011, 08:17 AM

Copyright usic on live cam is one of my big issues at present. If they are showing from a studio, you may find they have paid PRS which entitles the music to be played in the background.

Myfreecams should not have to pay for this, this is down to the studio or model to pay.

ArsewithClass · 09-11-2011, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by DWB

You speaking as a cam site, model or studio?

It doesn't stop any of the girls from doing whatever it is they were fined for. Like strippers, hookers, and porn chicks, most cam girls have no concept of a dollar.

Ive looked into the payment to play music in my studio, and each cam studio has a seperate fee which means it can add up to a grand or so, but if I just want to be able to cover the models playing music in each room, rather than all over the public internet area at the front of the shop or in the offices it can work out much less. Its cost is over the area of square feet it is played in.

Most professional studios probably have paid PRS as said on previous post, its the models that log on from their homes & as you say, dont have a clue about business, just being paid money to spend on more clothes

I do not think it is down to the livecam site for the music copyrights to be paid, however, they would have to have a clause on the signup stating this. If this was the case though, it leads into much more, like whether the footage or what the model is doing is legal etc.

Maybe no music should be allowed at no time, if music is played, then the model may be banned from the website

TeenCat · 09-11-2011, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Jarmusch

Most cam sites out there have girls playing copywritten music in the background.

And there's a big difference between being sued and being shut down. Stop making BS thread titles, you sensationalistic bastard.

yeah, so what about the rest of cam studios, they have licence for the bg music?

lol ...

ArsewithClass · 09-11-2011, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by TeenCat

yeah, so what about the rest of cam studios, they have licence for the bg music?

lol ...

By law they should. Any shop or business playing music must have it. Were getting it.

JohnRingo · 09-11-2011, 09:34 AM

Yeah. Just like p2p filesharing networks can't be sued and shut down.

Cash4Me · 09-11-2011, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by cooldude7

strange this never happened to me, but again never uploaded copyright music video, but never seen a music link to itunes either.,
there are few vids muted.

If their algorithm finds in your video a music that is i their giant database of copyrighted stuff they can mute your video (with a little text in the description) or add a link to iTunes and other market places to buy that track and I am sure they send a referrer to earn affiliate fees (this depends on agreements they have settled with the majors)

ArsewithClass · 09-11-2011, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Cash4Me

If their algorithm finds in your video a music that is i their giant database of copyrighted stuff they can mute your video (with a little text in the description) or add a link to iTunes and other market places to buy that track and I am sure they send a referrer to earn affiliate fees (this depends on agreements they have settled with the majors)

In Britain, those using copyright music without licensing, shop, online or other profitable business. PRS for music can sue the a$$

2MuchMark · 09-11-2011, 10:51 AM

It may or may not be MyFreeCam's responsibility, but it certainly looks like billing companies like CCBill don't allow this.

http://www.ccbill.com/cs/client/poli...le_use-eu.html
Violation Of CCBill EU Policy
"Any attempt to display, sell, or transfer materials that violate or infringe any copyright, trademark, right of publicity, patent, statutory, common law or proprietary rights of others"

"CCBill EU reserves the right to cooperate with law enforcement and other authorities in investigating claims of illegal activity including, but not limited to, illegal transfer or availability of copyrighted material, trademarks"

Epoch:
https://epoch.com/copyright.html
COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT POLICY
Epoch may, in its discretion, suspend and/or terminate the accounts of any Epoch client that is accused of infringing intellectual property rights of others pursuant to the Digital Millennium Copyright Act ("DMCA").

So then, if someone from the RIAA heard copyright music STREAMING from a chat room, they just might decide to give their lawyers a call and look at who is doing it, or who is profiting from it, or both.

helterskelter808 · 09-11-2011, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by ArsewithClass

Most professional studios probably have paid PRS

You'll be claiming they pay tax next.

ArsewithClass · 09-11-2011, 12:14 PM

I suppose it could be the same for any live cam company... Im still wondering about buying into your platforms Mark, if so, we are purchasing licences for music to be played in our studio, however, maybe you also should look into who is online & what is being played on your platforms

ArsewithClass · 09-11-2011, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by helterskelter808

You'll be claiming they pay tax next.

Big commercial studios would, payments from the studios are bank transfer, so you cant get away with conning the tax man these days

CamTraffic · 09-12-2011, 04:29 AM

they aint going anywhere

Paul Markham · 09-12-2011, 04:37 AM

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Originally Posted by helterskelter808

Right. Okay for porn companies to piss and moan about their copyright and issue DMCAs left right and center, but when porn companies are infringing on the rights of other artists and creators, that's fine and dandy and any complaints should be disregarded?

Someone posted about this - music in cam sites - a few months ago, in thread pretty much met by the sound tumbleweed. Certainly no cam site wanted to touch it, IIRC, but as ADG said it's just another rule they need to create, and they should probably address it sooner rather than later.

You should of learned by now, us fucking them over is fine. Them doing it to us is very bad.

Get with the times Helter.

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Originally Posted by Mutt

if somebody takes my content and uses it as part of something else I would lose no sleep over it - he's not selling or giving away my content to the market I'm trying to sell to.

A camgirl dancing to a copyrighted song on the radio is hardly damaging anybody - in fact it's promoting the music.

it would look real good on the music industry to sue some 20 year old girl from Kentucky or Bucharest for copyright infringement. cam girls work as independent contractors on MFC, the music companies can't sue MFC, successfully anyway.

the law is an ass sometimes.

Because you choose for others to profit off your work without paying, doesn't mean others have to.

JohnRingo · 09-13-2011, 11:41 PM

ok ass hats... how many girls have a copyright myfreecams on their video... more than a few... how many of these girls dance to music with a copyright... all of them

so myfreecams is copyrighting a video containing music that is already copywritten... allow the law suits to begin..

the people i feel sorry for the most are those who are going to lose out on seeing a girl fist her ass hole for free while gyrating to any crap ass rap song that proves the ignorance of america... now GFY

Argos88 · 09-13-2011, 11:44 PM

they made 100 millions dollars with myfreecams.. they must not care if it can go down.

Jakez · 09-13-2011, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by fris

dont know, but i know when i upload a video on youtube, and i have music playing in the background, it mutes the video, and has a link to the itunes url for the song under the video.

It places the itunes link automatically? I thought the uploaders were doing that to make a commission.

icymelon · 09-14-2011, 12:10 AM

that doesn't fly. its like shutting down youtube for copy right issues

JohnRingo · 10-06-2011, 09:14 PM

YouTube fixed that. Whoever runs MFC gonna get a nice bill in the mail.

Matyko · 10-07-2011, 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Scott McD

Youtube does this ???

since several months ago: yes..
Its better than the threatening messages about closing your account if you continue uploading such stuff.

JohnRingo · 10-08-2011, 06:55 AM

I really can't wait. I saw a girl with a copywritten movie in the background. Scary

adultchatpay · 10-08-2011, 11:02 AM

These companies are watching too much porn.

Mutt · 10-08-2011, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnRingo

I really can't wait. I saw a girl with a copywritten movie in the background. Scary

very scary, i'm sure all the camgirls and MFC are shaking with fear. how will you sleep at night until this horrible nightmare of camgirls playing music on MFC is over?

HandballJim · 10-08-2011, 01:51 PM

How do you get a job viewing adult cams all day for free and report these infractions to the copy write people, probably the best job in the world.

FeelMyTube · 10-08-2011, 01:58 PM

good news for cam sites sales, i guess..

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Argos88 So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 1,732	it's always funny to see some IDEALISTIC Ignorant HOPERS.. it reminds me that their mentality is the same the movie with sylvester stallone and wesley snipes.

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ArsewithClass So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: UK Posts: 7,957	Copyright usic on live cam is one of my big issues at present. If they are showing from a studio, you may find they have paid PRS which entitles the music to be played in the background. Myfreecams should not have to pay for this, this is down to the studio or model to pay.

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JohnRingo So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 673	ok ass hats... how many girls have a copyright myfreecams on their video... more than a few... how many of these girls dance to music with a copyright... all of them so myfreecams is copyrighting a video containing music that is already copywritten... allow the law suits to begin.. the people i feel sorry for the most are those who are going to lose out on seeing a girl fist her ass hole for free while gyrating to any crap ass rap song that proves the ignorance of america... now GFY

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