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Old 09-17-2011, 03:15 PM   #101
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Old 09-17-2011, 03:23 PM   #102
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Being $100 short on $1300 a month rent isnt exactly letting them ride, don't you think it cost more than $100 to evict and hire a team to clear out the house? The owner is an investment corporation. I've owned half a dozen rentals and thank god I never lost my compassion. And yes, people have died from being homeless.
"homeless" lol thats funny. They were renters. Just because they could not rent any more from that location, that means they can't rent a new house or perhaps an apartment or something cheaper that they could afford. Granted the house wasn't exactly nice but I am sure they could still rent something for at least $250 - $500 a month cheaper which sounds like more of what they can afford.

Kick a renter out = homeless? It was never their home to begin with. You pay monthly for the ability to live there. You cease to pay, you cease to live there. They just as easily can go rent somewhere else. And if they can't afford to rent somewhere else then that is not anyone's fault but their own. So if they have no money and can't pay for rent they made themselves homeless, not anyone else.

Fucking liberals and entitlement thinking people who are over dramatic about situations exactly like this is what is wrong with this country.

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yeah because there isn't renters who are unable to pay in other countries. Fucking anti-american haters on this board... last I checked there wasn't exactly many countries that were having a thriving economy and no poverty. It has nothing to do with "america" and their american dream is still alive, if they go out there and take advantage of it, unlike in other countries where there is no oportunites.

DWB, I know you live in a 3rd world shit hole and you love it because of cheap hookers and you can bribe people, but what is your original country of origin ?
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Old 09-17-2011, 03:41 PM   #103
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And yes, people have died from being homeless.
Have died but still it does not mean that you let them die when you make them homeless. Its like saying that you let your kids die when you take them camping to the woods because people have died in the woods. No need to overreact with "let them die" stuff..
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Old 09-17-2011, 03:56 PM   #104
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Try all the Scandinavian countries for a start, and here in the UK the State pays for housing if you are unemployed and the council has to house families with children.

And yes the USSR and socialist countries housed all the populations.

BUT the richest country in the world throws families on the street.

The banks are too big to fail in capitalism, the rich get a bail out, throw the kids on to the street.

The problems of our societies? Its the poor 50% with 2% of the wealth and no power, it's their fault, not the 1% who have 80% of the wealth, and all the power.
He's not unemployed dumbass and nowhere does it say he could not afford the rent or that he did not have the $100.
He called the landlord and the courts bluff and lost. So sad too bad.
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Old 09-17-2011, 04:35 PM   #105
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How many times had they been to rent court?

In a lot of jurisdictions the landlord can ask you to be set out no matter what after a few go arounds because you're a deadbeat and wasting everybody's time.
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Old 09-17-2011, 04:41 PM   #106
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Exactly. Think of the lesson it taught them... dont fuck around with the rent money.
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Old 09-17-2011, 04:56 PM   #107
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In which planet is this civilized country you speak of?
Argentina, Uruguay, Chile, Brazil and most of Europe are the first ones that come to my mind. I don't know about the exact process in other countries, but in Argentina FAMILIES are protected for up to 6 months until they regularize their situation or find another place to live. You can also ask for a social services provider to assist in the process.

Now, when you rent, you have to present 2 guarantees. If you don't pay, your house owner may ask the guarantees to pay the debt or they may have their houses auctioned. It doesn't work all of the times, but for most parts it does. But even if there's an eviction, social services locates the families in a temporary place such as a hotel or a very low rent house.

If you're alone, that's a whole different story, you're pretty much on your own, but families with kids are protected in most countries I know
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Old 09-18-2011, 12:12 AM   #108
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$100? I don't just call bullshit, that is bullshit. As if they don't know anyone that could loan them $100 or have anything worth $100 they could pawn.
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Old 09-19-2011, 09:32 AM   #109
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Ideally it takes months. In a lot of cases... It takes under a month...
I'm sure it varies by state, but in Florida it takes much less than a month.
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There are no extenuating circumstances, who are you kidding, they jerked the landlord around and so they got kicked out, it's as simple as that... don't let the "over $100" media spin fool you...

and if you really owned any properties you would know damn well that when tenant falls behind on payment it is bad news... you get rid of them ASAP to minimize your losses...
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other people have no problem with drafts or wars

perhaps they'd like to pay the real cost
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From what I got out of it the CO eviction process is this:

tenant falls behind on rent
landlord issues 3 day notice to pay in full or face eviction
If rent is not paid after time has expired landlord can file eviction lawsuit
Tenant has until court date to pay rent in full
If rent is still not paid in full by court date judge can issue possession judgment
Possession Judgment orders tenant to vacate the premises within 48 hours
If tenant has not vacated after 48 hours has passed landlord must file for writ of restitution
If Writ of Restitution is granted by judge landlord must then notify local law enforcement
Tenant is forcibly removed

The article is worded to sound fucked, but to have them thrown out of their home their landlord had to appear before a judge twice. All I saw looking over things is it takes on average between 5 to 10 business days after filing paperwork with the clerk for court date to be scheduled and notices sent, the court date could be set anywhere from a week to month from there.

After being formally evicted they could have paid the rent in full and it could not have made any difference.

I do feel bad for the children, but their parents should have taken measures to prevent them from having to live through this humilation. They knew this was coming at least a week out, most likely alot longer. Pack that shit up, put it in a storage unit, stay with friend or family- do what you have to do. It fucking sucks but the parents already knew they had been evicted.
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Argentina, Uruguay, Chile, Brazil and most of Europe are the first ones that come to my mind. I don't know about the exact process in other countries, but in Argentina FAMILIES are protected for up to 6 months until they regularize their situation or find another place to live. You can also ask for a social services provider to assist in the process.

Now, when you rent, you have to present 2 guarantees. If you don't pay, your house owner may ask the guarantees to pay the debt or they may have their houses auctioned. It doesn't work all of the times, but for most parts it does. But even if there's an eviction, social services locates the families in a temporary place such as a hotel or a very low rent house.

If you're alone, that's a whole different story, you're pretty much on your own, but families with kids are protected in most countries I know
Actually, in the US, if you have children, you are given instant access to a space in a homeless shelter, with no waiting. The only way that you can be denied access is if you are using drugs or booze. As long as you are clean and sober, you have shelter if you have kids. When you see stories of people with kids living in cars, it is because the parents chose to keep on using, and eventually CPS will step in and take the kids so that at least they have shelter.



Just FYI .
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the landlord has the right to evict someone if he wants imo
the article doesn't give any details, as why would anyone want details from news, its supposed to be headlines.

however, doing so over 100?? seems fishy...i suspect these two guys had a beef for sometime. probably the family owed the landlord money for awhile.

Evicting them like that is not the way to go, they could have been told to leave, and given time to leave providing they pay the rent.
60 days to get out...then evict.
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I bet $100 that these people paid their cable bill every month. As well as plenty of junk food, beer, soda, DVDs, and other garbage for the body and mind.
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Actually, in the US, if you have children, you are given instant access to a space in a homeless shelter, with no waiting. The only way that you can be denied access is if you are using drugs or booze. As long as you are clean and sober, you have shelter if you have kids. When you see stories of people with kids living in cars, it is because the parents chose to keep on using, and eventually CPS will step in and take the kids so that at least they have shelter.



Just FYI .
I never said that is not the case in US, I never speak about things I don't know, and when I do, I always make clear I THINK it might be that way. I can also be wrong on things I think I know, of course, but in general, I try to be very precise on what I say and how I say it. I just answered Jarmusch who asked "in what civilized country is is different" so maybe you should address your answer to him.

Anyway, I wasn't speaking about homeless shelters either, I'm talking about real homes or hotel rooms (they're HORRIBLE, not saying they are cool or anything. I have seen 6 members families in a hotel room with 2 beds or 8/10 people in a 2 rooms apartment).
Homeless shelters are terribly sordid and exists only in big cities here, smaller cities usually handle this type of things with churches (as in "oh, look how good I am, I'll let those poor people sleep at the door--- OUTSIDE").

But the whole point is evictions aren't common, and when there's any, it's in the news. And they never, ever, EVER are left in the street, a truck comes to pick up the evicted people's belongings so they're safe until they decide where to go and social assistants help the families. At least, that's how it works in my country. And yes, it's a system that sometimes is abused, but the truth is people is safer and owners are paid. Period.

A very different issue is "occupied homes/lands". They usually end with violence and even deaths and it's used by scrupulousness politicians as a way to cause turmoil: they usually send very poor people, mainly immigrants from Bolivia, Peru and Paraguay to take abandoned houses or lands claiming for our Constitutional guarantee of the "right to a home" and when police tries to take them out they start to battle. We have one or two of those per year and it usually ends like this: at least 1 death and government re-locating people to "cut the scandal".
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Actually, in the US, if you have children, you are given instant access to a space in a homeless shelter, with no waiting. The only way that you can be denied access is if you are using drugs or booze. As long as you are clean and sober, you have shelter if you have kids. When you see stories of people with kids living in cars, it is because the parents chose to keep on using, and eventually CPS will step in and take the kids so that at least they have shelter.



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And if the parents were pornographers ? Would they be beyond the pale ?
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If they can afford to bail out the bankers why cant the bail out the average family on the street in America.
Do the math. Had they given that cash to the people and not the car companies and bankers. How much would each family have gotten??
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and if you really owned any properties you would know damn well that when tenant falls behind on payment it is bad news... you get rid of them ASAP to minimize your losses...
that is under the assumption that he was a shitty landlord who was living week to week money wise.. most aren't...
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other people have no problem with drafts or wars

perhaps they'd like to pay the real cost
the last draft was before either of us were born and in the us only and held with extreme criticism...

Believe it or not we live in a country where they could institute a draft if it were deemed necessary as well... Nobody is above that.
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