PastorSinAlot

Judge Mathis Weighs In On The Execution Of Troy Davis!


Georgia, Really Tho? The Same Parole Board That Killed Troy Davis Gave Clemency To A White Male

Fight the power

Babaganoosh

I don't know the circumstances in either case and I am betting you don't either. One would need to know the circumstances before making a decision. Not everything is racially motivated. You people need to get over it already.

L-Pink

I'm sure both cases were absolutely identical except for skin color.

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Bladewire

Bringing people together seems a better option then dividing us by our differences

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Caligari

Now hold on their my good man, don't forget that its the white folks who pay more taxes to fund the prisons to put the coloreds in, and I might add they do get three square meals a day!*








*please god bring back the Chapelle show

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PastorSinAlot

You cant bring people together, if you out to destroy them.
Black Americans get more time for the same crime as white, that is a fact.
Georgia should be the last state to hurt any black people for all the wrong they did in the past.
Like 4 times a year Dna testing have proven blacks didnt do the crime.

Dvae

no doubt

I figure after 15 or 20 years of appeals and you have not been able to convince anyone of your innocence then it will probably never happen.

And just because witnesses recanted their testimony is not a surprise after about 5 years I would probably say I'm not so sure what I saw either.
I would hope they had more then eyewitness testimony to convict if not then thats a problem.

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Babaganoosh

2 of the 5 members of the board are black by the way. Let me guess, they're sellouts?

http://www.pap.state.ga.us/opencms/opencms/

Grapesoda

more innocent brothers being poicked on by whitey

http://hoodtube.com/934/cop-runs-for...hotgun-at-him/

Dvae

You mean like OJ Simpson?

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PastorSinAlot

" The parole board in the state of Georgia spared a convicted killer from execution hours before he was due to die by lethal injection on Thursday and commuted his sentence to life in prison. The Georgia Board of Pardons and Paroles made its decision less than three hours before Samuel David Crowe, 47, was to be executed, according to a spokeswoman for the state's prisons. "After careful and exhaustive consideration of the requests, the board voted to grant clemency. The board voted to commute the sentence to life without parole," the parole board said. Crowe's death would have marked the third execution since the U.S. Supreme Court lifted an unofficial moratorium on the death penalty last month. Crowe was not present at the parole board hearing in Atlanta. He had already eaten his last meal and was preparing to enter the execution chamber at the prison in Jackson, Georgia, Mallie McCord of the Georgia Department of Corrections said. In March 1988, Crowe killed store manager Joseph Pala during a robbery at the lumber company in Douglas County, west of Atlanta. Crowe, who had previously worked at the store, shot Pala three times with a pistol, beat him with a crowbar and a pot of paint. Crowe pleaded guilty to armed robbery and murder and was sentenced to death the following year. "David (Crowe) takes full responsibility for his crime and experiences profound remorse," according to Georgians for Alternatives to the Death Penalty, an advocacy group, who welcomed the board's decision. At Thursday's hearing, his lawyers presented a dossier of evidence attesting to his remorse and good behavior in jail, according to local media reports. The lawyers also said he was suffering from withdrawal symptoms from a cocaine addiction at the time of the crime. The U.S. Supreme Court on April 16 rejected a challenge to the three-drug cocktail used in most U.S. executions, which opponents claimed inflicted unnecessary pain. Georgia then conducted an execution on May 5. Georgia has executed 41 men since the Supreme Court reinstated the death penalty in 1973 and this week it had 109 prisoners on death row." - Reuters

Grapesoda

fact: federal sentencing guidelines. more facts: no one is alive in Georgia from 1865 and before. another fact: racist, someone primarily concerned with race

PastorSinAlot

Fact: More blacks do more time for the same crime as whites. Right the fuck now

marketsmart

these two cases were very different..

troy davis was guilty and thats a fact...

i'm glad al sharpton got all the baboons riled up because it just shows that blacks will claim racism without even spending the time to learn the facts..

you dont like it here? then go live somewhere where there is no racism...

maybe antarctica...




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L-Pink

Equality in the justice system? Next you'll be wanting a black president.

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PastorSinAlot

The National Institute of Drug Abuse estimated that while 12 percent of drug
users are black, they make up nearly 50 percent of all drug possession
arrests in the U.S. (The Black and White of Justice, Freedom Magazine, Volume 128)
According to the National Drug Strategy Network, although African Americans
make up less than one-third of the population in Georgia, the black arrest
rate for drugs is five times greater than the white arrest rate. In addition,
since 1990, African Americans have accounted for more than 75% of persons
incarcerated for drug offenses in Georgia and make up 97.7% of the people in
that state who are given life sentences for drug offenses.

In six California counties independently surveyed in 1995, 100% of those
individuals sent to trial on drug charges were minorities, while the
drug-using population in those same counties was more than 60% white. (The
Black and White of Justice, Freedom Magazine, Volume 128)
A CNN article in 1996 sited U.S. government figures that show more than 90
percent of all federal prosecutions for crack cocaine in 1995 were of African
American defendants. In addition, unlike convictions for powered cocaine and
other drugs (which wealthy, Caucasian defendants are more likely to use), a
conviction for selling crack cocaine can carry a lengthy prison term without
benefit of parole.

Just Alex

Texas executed white guy on the same day as Georgia did with Davis. Did you hear anyone bitching about it? No !

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Just Alex

Bullshit. But blacks are 5 times more likely to commit crime. And thats a fact.

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NaughtyVisions

I only spent a few minutes glancing over the details of each case, and, along with what was mentioned regarding Troy Davis in ShelleyCrash's thread, it seems as though:

Crowe killed one person, and has since expressed deep regret and remorse.

Davis killed multiple people (the off duty cop, someone else earlier in the night that he admitted to killing). Having one murder conviction is going to affect sentencing dramatically compared to someone who does not have a previous murder conviction.
That falls into the federal sentencing guidlelines BM Bradley mentioned.

The problem with this complaint, Pastor, is that the cases are not the same, therefore the two criminals cannot be compared. Compare Davis' plight to someone who had a previous murder conviction.

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L-Pink

Previous convictions are supposed to not be mentioned while on trial for a crime. They are however relevant when sentencing. (I think)

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NaughtyVisions

Yeah, I'm almost 100% they affect sentencing. Which is why I mentioned that other murder conviction as related to BM Bradley's mentioning of federal sentencing guidelines.


Edit: previous convictions do impact sentencing:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal...ing_Guidelines

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PastorSinAlot

White Americans do the same crime and get less or not time.

_Richard_

the guy who was to be executed admitted to the killing, which was horrific

pays to have a well connected family i suppose

pornguy

Based on these two videos you posted here you can NOT compare them.. There is ZERO information about why the other was granted.

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BlackCrayon

black people also typically have more priors too.

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PastorSinAlot

Black men are mostly arrested for non-violent crimes such as drugs crimes, not for crimes like mass murders, serial killing, white collar crime.
Also, black men serve more time in jail than a white men even when they commited the same crime.

And it is also base on racism:
" U.S. studies showed that blacks were commonly sent to prison at higher rates and for longer prison terms than whites for the same crimes."

"Over half of those sentenced for drug offenses were black in 1998, even though 70% of drug users are white"

"Blacks were much more likely to be sent to prison than placed on probation"
Jack this

NaughtyVisions

You keep saying that, yet the example you gave didn't prove it, nor are you acknowleding that fact. Kind of reminds me of when SallyRand gets called out on something, and he/she/it posts the exact same thing five more times in the same thread.

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amateurbfs

Typical ignorant black American.

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PastorSinAlot

PRove to me that black get equal time for the same crime?
But we for sure do more time for the same crime

Yes they do. But let me explain why. It is not because they are more violent than white men. It is because of the sentencing guidelines which are setup by white men which allow judges to have a heyday on whom they will. The United States only makes up 5% of the world population but has the world's largest prison system. Even larger than that of China. Black men only make up 6% of the US population but make up over 45% of the prison population. Asians and Hispanics make up about 25% of the prison population combined. White men make up about only 30% and this is mostly poor whites. Looking at the statistics one would think that black men are more criminal when they are no more criminal than any other race of men. The reason they out number all other race of men in prison is because they get horrendously long sentences for non-violent crimes. Black men are in prison for drug charges more than any other crime. Being a pedophile is a terrible crime. 80% of the males who commit this horrendous act are white. Though this is perceived to be an act of violence against a child, white men receive far less time than a black male who got caught smoking crack or got caught selling 10 rocks of crack cocaine. Google and see for yourself.

+ It is very unfortunate, that there is no outcry among African Americans for what is going on. I personally know of men who smoked marijuana at one time but stopped...but because they associated at one time or another with someone who did, they are serving 15 to 20 years in prison. Judges are able to do this through what is called "Conspiracy Charges". When you get a conspiracy charge, they (the feds) collect as much marijuana or cocaine as they can and charge each person they've arrested with that exact amount of drugs. It does not matter whether you personally ever even saw the marijuana or not. You are charged and sentenced as though you personally sold it. This action is legal because whites have made it legal, thus making it possible to imprison a huge number of black men for long periods of time and not one family member can do anything about it.
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+ Is it just? No, but then the Justice System has a horrendous history of allowing lynchings and rapes against blacks to go on in America without one arrest. So it is no wonder that it continues to be unjust in it's sentencing of blacks today.

Read more: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Do_black_m...#ixzz1YnInntbX

PastorSinAlot

Black man kills a dog gets life
White man plays with kids booty gets out in 12 months?

Just Alex

Bullshit. Prove it.

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Just Alex

Fuck off, will you? And please dont tell me its crackers killing black folks in da hood.

Im sure you know better.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_the_United_States

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NaughtyVisions

I must have missed when Michael Vick received his life sentence. I could have sworn he was the starting QB for my favorite NFL team.

Generally speaking, any man plays with kids booty gets his ass maimed in prison, and most likely comes out in a body bag.

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stephane76

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L-Pink

Even more incentive for "non whites" to be law abiding citizens. What's the problem?

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Barefootsies

Whitey will typically pay for an attorney.

Darkey will go with the public defender.

While I am sure this is not an absolute, but I would say it's true more times than not in whatever example you're citing. Hence O.J.. If you pay for legal representation, you tend to buy yourself a better brand of "justice". This is how the system works.

It's not about race. It's about socio-economic class. Welcome to the U.S.A..

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Just Alex

The author of this article attempts to deceive the reader by a lie of omission. He failed to mention that the $100 bank robber was convicted of first degree robbery. During the robbery he held his hand under his jacket to insinuate he had a gun, which makes it an armed robbery !

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blazin

Happens here in the UK too....

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Contempt

Because judges and juries know that white people are superior

marketsmart

very true..

a friend of my families just spent $150,000 to defend his son who killed a woman while drunk driving.. she had just got engaged and fiance and his friend were in the front seat and she was in the back seat with no seat belt.. the kid rear ended them causing their car to flip and the girl was ejected and died at the scene..

his son got 1 year in county jail and 2 years house arrest and 5 years probabtion and thats it.. he was 2.5 times legal limit and speeding..

if that was my fiance and her killer got off like that, i would kill that kid myself..

but on the flip side, would i do everything in my power to keep my kid out of jail?






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crockett

Perhaps they should hire better lawyers and not use public defenders? Can anyone say OJ he is a black guy right?

I bet people whom hire lawyers most likely do less time than people who use state provided public defenders.

Grapesoda

can you read? fact: federal sentencing guidelines

Grapesoda

black man post lame shit about black people on a porn message board

1835 a black slave in the south lived in a wood shack with a wood floor and lived to be aprox 35, 1835 an irish man in ireland lived in a mud house with a dirt floor and lived to be aprox 24...

nico-t

Pastorsinalot is an ignorant stupid racist.
Thread closed.

shimmy2

you should move here or any other black/brown country, you'll get kicks watching the policia extort all the white folks for seatbelt tickets and incorrect papers they have to pay on the spot... meanwhile 4 morenos drinking presidentes piled on a moped zip by running red lights. the only reason people of any race get exploited is because they can.

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Just Alex

Im sorry, I was wrong. 6 times.

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PastorSinAlot

I guess the USA didnt test STDs on blacks?
http://www.cdc.gov/tuskegee/timeline.htm
n 1932, the Public Health Service, working with the Tuskegee Institute, began a study to record the natural history of syphilis in hopes of justifying treatment programs for blacks. It was called the "Tuskegee Study of Untreated Syphilis in the Negro Male."
The study initially involved 600 black men ? 399 with syphilis, 201 who did not have the disease. The study was conducted without the benefit of patients' informed consent. Researchers told the men they were being treated for "bad blood," a local term used to describe several ailments, including syphilis, anemia, and fatigue. In truth, they did not receive the proper treatment needed to cure their illness. In exchange for taking part in the study, the men received free medical exams, free meals, and burial insurance. Although originally projected to last 6 months, the study actually went on for 40 years.

PastorSinAlot

http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v00.n771.a03.html
MORE WHITES USE DRUGS, MORE BLACKS IMPRISONED

The nation's war on drugs unfairly targets African Americans, who are far more likely to be imprisoned for drug offenses than whites even though far more whites use illegal drugs than blacks, according to a new report by the advocacy group Human Rights Watch.

The report, to be released today, said that African Americans accounted for 62 percent of the drug offenders sent to state prisons nationwide in 1996, the most recent year for which statistics are available, although they represent just 12 percent of the U.S. population. Overall, black men are sent to state prisons on drug charges at 13 times the rate of white men, according to the study, which analyzes a wide range of Justice Department information for 37 states to come up with its findings.

These disparities exist even though data gathered by the Department of Health and Human Services show that in 1991, 1992 and 1993, about five times as many whites had used cocaine than blacks, the report said. The report added that drug transactions among blacks often are easier for police to target because they more often occur in public than do drug transactions among whites.

"These racial disparities are a national scandal," said Ken Roth, executive director of Human Rights Watch, an international human rights organization. "Black and white drug offenders get radically different treatment in the American justice system. This is not only profoundly unfair to blacks, it also corrodes the American ideal of equal justice for all."

The disparities are particularly striking in individual states, where black men are sent to prison on drug charges at rates as much as 57 times greater than that of white men. In Maryland, for example, blacks make up 27 percent of the population and 90 percent of those sent to prison on drug charges – for a rate that is 28 times greater than whites.

In Virginia, meanwhile, blacks are 82 percent of those sent to prison on drug charges and just 20 percent of the population. Overall, they are sent to prison on drug charges at a rate 21 times greater than whites.

"More blacks were sent to state prison nationwide on drug charges than for crimes of violence," Jamie Fellner, associate counsel for Human Rights Watch, wrote in the report. "Only 27 percent of black admissions to prison were for crimes of violence – compared to 38 percent for drug offenses."

The Human Rights Watch report adds to a growing array of studies documenting racial disparities in the nation's criminal justice system. A report last month by the Leadership Conference on Civil Rights found that African Americans and Hispanics are treated more harshly than similarly situated whites at every level of the criminal justice system. And that report came on the heels of a study by the National Council on Crime and Delinquency showing that black and Hispanic youth are more likely than whites to be arrested, prosecuted, held in jail without bail and sentenced to long prison terms.

Remedies suggested in the Human Rights Watch report include the repeal of mandatory sentencing laws for drug offenders, increasing drug treatment and eliminating racial profiling as a police tactic.