![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
||||
Welcome to the GoFuckYourself.com - Adult Webmaster Forum forums. You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today! If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us. |
![]() ![]() |
|
Discuss what's fucking going on, and which programs are best and worst. One-time "program" announcements from "established" webmasters are allowed. |
|
Thread Tools |
![]() |
#1 |
Confirmed User
Industry Role:
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: At The Mountains Of Madness
Posts: 5,414
|
![]() A few years back you could find many webmasters talking about the death of blogs and how tubes were taking over
![]() Tubes are huge, but this year I have seen far more threads/posts about blogs than tubes, and many tube threads are about WP versions of tubes and tgps;) Many talk about how much better tubes are doing in search but...i've seen alot of blogs trumping tubes on google or at the very least keeping pace. To the point- I think its a matter that WP has taken a major leap in media delivery and their upgrades have been amazing and the platform is simply far more adjustable than tube platforms imo. Alot of people think it's the best CMS and I agree... Thoughts, objections, GFY's?
__________________
![]() ------------------------------------------------ Animal Rescue Click Here to Feed An Animal for Free |
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#2 |
Confirmed User
Industry Role:
Join Date: Jul 2001
Posts: 3,766
|
WP blogs are well established with SEO. The tube packages we have used are a bit choppy in its implementation comparatively (can't speak for all)
Perhaps the hidden factor, maybe in the adult industry, is good prefers blog listings over a tube site for the potential legalities involved? A sort of way of policing or minimizing the internet, its possible if your into conspiracies lol. Given that WP is used by tens of millions of people in every single country - I think this collaberative effort renders a better package, favorability and just more resources online on how to get the best SEO you can for free.
__________________
![]() be our partner - join nichepartners today will.assum.producer @ AmateurCanada.com / icq: 30146166 / facebook.com/will.assum / #amateurcanada |
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#3 |
BANNED
Industry Role:
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: In Your Head
Posts: 25,083
|
Yes, obviously when you use Wordpress, you magically become a better, more relevant result for a given phrase.
__________________
. Yes, fewer illegal immigrants working equates to more job opportunities for American citizens. Rochard |
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#4 | |
Confirmed User
Industry Role:
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: At The Mountains Of Madness
Posts: 5,414
|
Quote:
what turns a potential member on with porn? reading about it, visuals or a good combination of both? with many tubes i see the same recycled videos with little to no text but if a blog has the right combo of scintillating text and image/video i find it more interesting personally. then there are text triggers which can usher in a sale where a pic or video might not be enough.
__________________
![]() ------------------------------------------------ Animal Rescue Click Here to Feed An Animal for Free |
|
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#5 |
Consigliere
Industry Role:
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 1,771
|
Sign of the times: tubes typically cost more (scripts / bandwidth) and profit less (small tubes may find ad dollars scarce, etc.) than WP-based blogs, which are basically free to setup and run.
If you have no money, the WP route is best. Thus, lots of "how can I...?" posts ![]() |
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#6 |
So Fucking Banned
Industry Role:
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 1,732
|
blogs are way better than tubes and are more alive than ever.
tube conversion -> 1:10,000 blog conversion -> 1:500 |
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#7 | |
Confirmed User
Industry Role:
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: At The Mountains Of Madness
Posts: 5,414
|
Quote:
__________________
![]() ------------------------------------------------ Animal Rescue Click Here to Feed An Animal for Free |
|
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#8 |
So Fucking Banned
Industry Role:
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 25,214
|
|
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#9 |
Too lazy to set a custom title
Industry Role:
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 10,166
|
every major adult keyword is 95% dominated by tubes.
your theory needs to go back to the drawing board. |
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#10 | |
Confirmed User
Industry Role:
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: At The Mountains Of Madness
Posts: 5,414
|
Quote:
![]() Google.com the term Femdom What's that? 1- site 2- tube 3- wiki 4- site 5- tgp a total of 3 tubes on top ten results. this does not equal 95% domination for a major search term. perhaps you should learn how to count;) --------------------------------------------- now beyond that, you can keep your "major keywords" cuz that shit is tired. and if you are relying on terms like "sex" and "porn" keep working those please.
__________________
![]() ------------------------------------------------ Animal Rescue Click Here to Feed An Animal for Free |
|
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#11 | |
BANNED
Industry Role:
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: In Your Head
Posts: 25,083
|
Quote:
The answer is an obvious no. What popular tubes are targeting "femdom"? Why are you using that as an example when blogs aren't beating tubes for that term? Practically all major search terms go to tubes/tgps/old sites or spam pages. As was noted, almost all traffic phrases go to tubes and that should be the obvious answer to your question. There is nothing magic about a "blog" or "wordpress". If you want to rank for traffic phrase, you have to work for it. It's that simple. It doesn't matter what platform you use to rank a page. ![]() What's your next analysis going to be? Search "teen sex" and claim popular news sites are outranking adult wordpress blogs?
__________________
. Yes, fewer illegal immigrants working equates to more job opportunities for American citizens. Rochard |
|
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#12 | |
Too lazy to set a custom title
Industry Role:
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 10,166
|
look at porn, free porn, xxx, porno, porn tube, sex videos, free porn videos and naked girls. the top adult search terms.
i left out the names of the porn tubes like "pornhub" and "xnxx" which are just as big as those terms above now. Quote:
|
|
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#13 |
Too lazy to set a custom title
Industry Role:
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 10,166
|
blogs sure may trump some low to mid sized adult keywords because the competition is weaker, not because blogs are somehow able top rank better. stupid thread.
|
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#14 |
Confirmed User
Industry Role:
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: En la reverendisima concha de tu madre!
Posts: 3,034
|
Yes, and for those big search terms, tubes dominate, followed close by torrent sites and file sharing...
|
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#15 |
Too lazy to set a custom title
Industry Role:
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 10,166
|
|
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#16 | ||
Confirmed User
Industry Role:
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: At The Mountains Of Madness
Posts: 5,414
|
Quote:
Nothing to do with blogs ranking on the term, do you understand that? at least? Quote:
![]()
__________________
![]() ------------------------------------------------ Animal Rescue Click Here to Feed An Animal for Free |
||
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#17 | |
Confirmed User
Industry Role:
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: At The Mountains Of Madness
Posts: 5,414
|
Quote:
![]() And as i said before those terms are so generic their actual value now in terms of ROI for the tubes is pretty weak.
__________________
![]() ------------------------------------------------ Animal Rescue Click Here to Feed An Animal for Free |
|
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#18 |
Too lazy to set a custom title
Industry Role:
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 10,166
|
yah people spend small fortunes working 24/7 trying to rank for the big adult terms because there is no return. sure thing dude.
|
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#19 | |
Confirmed User
Industry Role:
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: At The Mountains Of Madness
Posts: 5,414
|
Quote:
i personally do not like razor thin ROI so no thanks. but i encourage people to keep spending small fortunes ranking for those oh so valued major keywords...
__________________
![]() ------------------------------------------------ Animal Rescue Click Here to Feed An Animal for Free |
|
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#20 |
GFY's Halfpint
Industry Role:
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: UK
Posts: 15,223
|
I have had very good search traffic from blogs whith hardly any promotion and no SEO work done on them. I have hundreds of outgoing links and not many incomming links. I think the key is unique text content (your own stuff) It keeps users on the site as they read which stops bounce rate
|
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#21 |
Too lazy to set a custom title
Industry Role:
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 10,166
|
just because you can't achieve something does not make it invalid. that's loser thinking.
|
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#22 |
Confirmed User
Industry Role:
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: En la reverendisima concha de tu madre!
Posts: 3,034
|
Shit! Free porn search term, first 20 are all tube. Didn't go to third page
|
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#23 |
Confirmed User
Industry Role:
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 5,735
|
I don't include the word "free" in my blogs because I don't want to attract visitors who won't be willing to purchase memberships...so tubes ranking for free are irrelevant to my blogging strategy.
|
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#24 | ||
BANNED
Industry Role:
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: In Your Head
Posts: 25,083
|
Quote:
Quote:
They did die. They were everywhere, now they are relatively few. After the Big Daddy update, you couldn't just generate 50 billion pages, create unlimited PR and pass it around without building links to all those sub pages to get them counted. Wordpress is a good cms and you are confusing "blog" with "website" and "webpage" and making an imaginary distinction and supposed benefits that do not exist in Google's eyes. Just because a site happens to be a "blog" doesn't mean its relevant to search engines that its a blog. Blogs are not unique or special in SEO other than Wordpress provides a great platform for varies methods of automated search spam. Further, its quite obvious they are not taking over tube sites, that very idea assumes everyone suddenly decided they want to read about porn and not watch it.
__________________
. Yes, fewer illegal immigrants working equates to more job opportunities for American citizens. Rochard |
||
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#25 | |
Confirmed User
Industry Role:
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Heaven
Posts: 4,306
|
Quote:
if your blog is good/attractive then use word free, so people will come to your blog., few will go away coz of no free, few read blogs and become horny and they buy membership., even though they came by using word "free" |
|
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#26 |
Confirmed User
Industry Role:
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Heaven
Posts: 4,306
|
nope., but you can rank whatever you want.,
u cant buy a SERP, you have to earn it. |
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#27 |
Too lazy to set a custom title
Industry Role:
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 10,166
|
back to the original question, yes blogs are dying. research and studies - on the mainstream side anyway - shows blog creation and readership on a decline, trumped by social media. blog creation among younger people is near non-existent.
though blog/social media hybrids like tumblr are strong and growing. |
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#28 |
Confirmed User
Industry Role:
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: En la reverendisima concha de tu madre!
Posts: 3,034
|
|
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#29 | |
Confirmed User
Industry Role:
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: At The Mountains Of Madness
Posts: 5,414
|
Quote:
![]() or your idea of a blog is limited to blogger;) oh man...
__________________
![]() ------------------------------------------------ Animal Rescue Click Here to Feed An Animal for Free |
|
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#30 |
Too lazy to set a custom title
Industry Role:
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 10,166
|
|
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#31 |
Too lazy to set a custom title
Industry Role:
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 10,166
|
if you have another definition than what is commonly accepted to be for blog, let me know. can't have a discussion over a topic were are defining differently.
|
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#32 |
Confirmed User
Industry Role:
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 5,735
|
|
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#33 |
GFY's Halfpint
Industry Role:
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: UK
Posts: 15,223
|
I think he is on about the tube blogs with emeded movies which are starting to popup everywhere. You can also make them very social using plugins like mingle.
|
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#34 | |
Too lazy to set a custom title
Industry Role:
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 10,166
|
Quote:
you just can't change your definition of "blog" because you don't like those facts. if a what you call a blog is something else, give it a new name and discuss using that. |
|
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#35 |
Too lazy to set a custom title
Industry Role:
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 10,166
|
well sure, but in those long tail results are tons of news stories, twitters, youtubes, forum postings, torrents, file lockers, amazon listings and spam and doorway pages. why should we not claim any of those are "taking over" and "making a comeback?"
|
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#36 | |
GFY's Halfpint
Industry Role:
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: UK
Posts: 15,223
|
Quote:
|
|
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#37 |
GFY's Halfpint
Industry Role:
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: UK
Posts: 15,223
|
The other wp tube blog I have just started I am making a lot more social to give users the option of interaction with other users. You can in effect almost run them like tubes with social functions
|
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#38 | |
Too lazy to set a custom title
Industry Role:
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 10,166
|
well of course they will stay on video site longer, right? takes longer to watch videos than to read a blog post. and yeah i think part of the panda ranking factors is video. forgotten sites that had video on them suddenly started to rank this year.
Quote:
|
|
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#39 | |
GFY's Halfpint
Industry Role:
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: UK
Posts: 15,223
|
Quote:
![]() One thing I do find is that most tube sites only give a small description for the videos where as on a wp tube the descriptions are more like mini storys so whether that will have any effect on out ranking the tube sites I have no idea. |
|
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#40 | |
Confirmed User
Industry Role:
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: At The Mountains Of Madness
Posts: 5,414
|
Quote:
any good blog is a social hybrid. you do not need tumblr which is merely a company with a blogging platform to achieve this. webmasters have been making bank with social hybrid blogs for years, because that simply is what any good blog is, it enables you to reach a wide variety of other media.
__________________
![]() ------------------------------------------------ Animal Rescue Click Here to Feed An Animal for Free |
|
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#41 |
Confirmed User
Industry Role:
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 5,735
|
and I agree with this, I was replying towards the OP with my last comment. As a whole, I don't believe either "trumps" the other. You can make good money with a blog, tube, tgp, etc...there's so many variables that come into play. I believe they all have their good uses.
|
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#42 | |
Confirmed User
Industry Role:
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: At The Mountains Of Madness
Posts: 5,414
|
Quote:
he does not realize how expansive CMS models have become, which now encompass tube sites, tgps and just about anything else. this is why "blogs" are trumping tubes. tubes are just tubes, but blogs have rapidly advanced into a multitude of media delivery platforms.
__________________
![]() ------------------------------------------------ Animal Rescue Click Here to Feed An Animal for Free |
|
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#43 | |
Too lazy to set a custom title
Industry Role:
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 10,166
|
Quote:
|
|
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#44 | |
Too lazy to set a custom title
Industry Role:
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 10,166
|
Quote:
you are stating all things made with a cms are a blog, but that is not true. |
|
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#45 | ||
Confirmed User
Industry Role:
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: At The Mountains Of Madness
Posts: 5,414
|
Quote:
Quote:
the key here is growth and the ability to grow, and blogging platforms are allowing this.
__________________
![]() ------------------------------------------------ Animal Rescue Click Here to Feed An Animal for Free |
||
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#46 | |
GFY's Halfpint
Industry Role:
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: UK
Posts: 15,223
|
Quote:
Tubes are similar to facebook ect the surfers talk about them amongest themselves at work or everyday convos, they have become the social porn norm so to speak, and they will only evolve in the future, not go away. They have the edge on the surfers and that is going to take a lot to break if its ever done |
|
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#47 | |
Confirmed User
Industry Role:
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: At The Mountains Of Madness
Posts: 5,414
|
Quote:
"WordPress is an open source blog tool and publishing platform powered by PHP and MySQL." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WordPress wordpress is a blog tool with which you can now make tubes, tgps etc. but it's core is the blog.
__________________
![]() ------------------------------------------------ Animal Rescue Click Here to Feed An Animal for Free |
|
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#48 | |
Confirmed User
Industry Role:
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: At The Mountains Of Madness
Posts: 5,414
|
Quote:
__________________
![]() ------------------------------------------------ Animal Rescue Click Here to Feed An Animal for Free |
|
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#49 |
GFY's Halfpint
Industry Role:
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: UK
Posts: 15,223
|
I know from my own expereince running wp tube sites that they do attract a lot more surfers than normal blogs. And they do seem to get traffic from nowhere with little promotion and no seo. But compared to the traffic the tubes get mine is miniscule. Mine is now up to around 20k a month I think the higest month now has risen to 24k and this is without really doing much to it. I even stoped posting to it for about 4 months lol. Maybe its the niche maybe its the hand written posts or maybe its just the embeded videos I really dont know. I am finding the exact same thing with the newer wp blog i have just started ..traffic just comes to it lol. If I had done more to the older tube blog I most prob could be getting double the traffic now
|
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#50 | |
Too lazy to set a custom title
Industry Role:
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 16,116
|
Quote:
![]()
__________________
Your Paysite Partner Strength In Numbers! StickyDollars | RadicalCash | KennysPennies | HomegrownCash |
|
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |