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Old 09-24-2011, 12:15 AM   #1
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Joan Irvine "face of the porn industry"

http://http://www.xbiz.com/news/138883 God Help Us....

"Stressing that using .XXX “is going to be an option, not mandatory” for adult sites. Irvine noted that the ICM Registry would take action if an individual country decided to make using the domain mandatory."

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Old 09-24-2011, 01:09 AM   #2
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Fuck that motherfucker!
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Old 09-24-2011, 01:30 AM   #3
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"Stressing that using .XXX ?is going to be an option, not mandatory? for adult sites. Irvine noted that the ICM Registry would take action if an individual country decided to make using the domain mandatory."
i'll fix that link for you ...

http://www.xbiz.com/news/138883
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"Stressing that using .XXX “is going to be an option, not mandatory” for adult sites. Irvine noted that the ICM Registry would take action if an individual country decided to make using the domain mandatory."



More and more countries & businesses will completely block the extension.
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Old 09-24-2011, 03:24 AM   #5
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?A lot of it is so people can feel more comfortable. A lot of people were getting scared to go to adult sites, afraid there?d be child pornography and viruses.?
.XXX will surly make me feel more comfortable visiting adult sites. I'll click on anything if I know it links to a .XXX site.
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I dont recall who appointed her to be the "Face "of the adult industry ?

"Her new challenge is to provide self-regulation in a usable format for everybody and to help mold an organization and industry, Irvine noted"
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Old 09-24-2011, 05:19 AM   #7
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I think Paul Markham should be involved in all that, it would give him an excuse to run his mouth 24/7 without saying anything like he already does, he would feel important and he'd be too busy cutting underhanded deals under the table to post here. Plus maybe his poor wife wouldn't have to support him, it's a win/win.
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Old 09-24-2011, 05:27 AM   #8
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i'll fix that link for you ...

http://www.xbiz.com/news/138883
i told them in Amsterdam but i will say it here again:

they should simply point out that this is a business for them and everyone needs to decide if they want to take up their offer or not

but this child protection bullshit is a flat out lie and that alone totally discredits their business. she should shut the fuck up

Joan, i make sure to tell that right to your face next time

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Old 09-24-2011, 05:28 AM   #9
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Lol, yeah I can see it now. A country decides .xxx is mandatory and every adult site owner in their country needs to use one and Joan expects us to believe that Lawley is going to fight against that, even though it would millions in new revenue.
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Old 09-24-2011, 06:11 AM   #11
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but this child protection bullshit is a flat out lie and that alone totally discredits their business.
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and i will just say for article content blah blah
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“There are benefits to adult entertainment companies to buy a .XXX and there will be returns on investment,” Irvine said. “Along with having McAfee protecting the site and having child protections built into the domain, ICM Registry will be developing a .XXX portal to help people find sites.

“A lot of it is so people can feel more comfortable. A lot of people were getting scared to go to adult sites, afraid there’d be child pornography and viruses.”

Irvine told the Times that the industry is frustrated over how the public associates adult entertainment with child porn and noted that studies show about 90 percent of the material originates from sources such as organized crime. “Everyone assumes it’s the [adult] industry, but it’s not. The industry has every reason to want to self-regulate, support child protection and reinforce its distance from illegal activity,” Irvine said.

What a load of bullshit, nice try on the spin.
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Joan is the face of the adult industry? Really? I like to hear her thoughts about double penetration and gang banging.
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What an ugly old cunt.. lol at the "business professional" , she looks like a typical feministic whore who tries to gain influence to control the business because of her own interests.

These twats should spend all their "business" efforts fighting the real problem this business faces which is content piracy, not CP. CP is very well eliminated by laws and police, but content piracy is tolerated and ignored.

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She is charming tho.

That alone will go a long way for her. She'll talk a lot of people into believing her.
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I for one am not thrilled that they are out there purporting this falsity. I'm writing a letter to the Department of Pornography and Obscenity immediately.
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Yeah he would "take action" in the form of payoffs and throwing a party if a country was to make using .xxx mandatory for porn. Especially if it was the US, Canada, Australia or Western European country.


I hate that Joan bitch. She was paying herself about 25% of all money collected from ASACP when she was running it. So much for "protecting the kids" when you got to pay yourself a fat salary first. Between the money she paid herself and the money she spent on going to shows, traveling, and advertising to collect more money, very little of it was spent on "protecting the kids". Just another fucking Con artist, like Stuart who hid behind "protecting kids" when all they are worried about is stuffing their pockets and they could give a shit about the kids.
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Stronger copyright laws would allow us to move porn behind adult verification again. I love how they rage at the industry but we don't offer up free porn; or make it available to minors on the mass scale.. the thives do that.
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I never trusted her and I certainly would NOT ever trust her now.

She sold her soul to .XXX, helped to sell out this industry and is continuing to do so.

In my opinion, she is scum like the rest of the organizations pushing this
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I hate that Joan bitch. She was paying herself about 25% of all money collected from ASACP when she was running it. So much for "protecting the kids" when you got to pay yourself a fat salary first. Between the money she paid herself and the money she spent on going to shows, traveling, and advertising to collect more money, very little of it was spent on "protecting the kids". Just another fucking Con artist, like Stuart who hid behind "protecting kids" when all they are worried about is stuffing their pockets and they could give a shit about the kids.
I remember a while back seeing the tax filing forms of past years from that group in a thread and found some of it interesting. Of course the best part from that thread which went unanswered and was never solved was, the secret board members that no one will reveal the names of.
I thought that names were public information, especially when it comes to non profit business, but no names are to be found.

Maybe family members, friends....only one who knows is helmy and close friends, probably ;)
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I called this shit out early. Welcome to another round of "Fuck The Industry", courtesy of .XXX and Joan Irvine.
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I remember a while back seeing the tax filing forms of past years from that group in a thread and found some of it interesting. Of course the best part from that thread which went unanswered and was never solved was, the secret board members that no one will reveal the names of.
I thought that names were public information, especially when it comes to non profit business, but no names are to be found.

Maybe family members, friends....only one who knows is helmy and close friends, probably ;)
I am on the advisory council of ASACP and I know very well where all the money donated to ASACP is used. I am not affiliated with .xxx.
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but this child protection bullshit is a flat out lie and that alone totally discredits their business. she should shut the fuck up

Joan, i make sure to tell that right to your face next time
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Yeah, um, I bet you won't.

You know that if you try to talk to her the way you claim, she wouldn't hesitate to put you in your place and do it in front of everyone.

Here's a better idea. If you disagree with what she says on anything I'm sure if you approach her and ask her to sit down with you for a while so you can explain her side and permit her the same curtsy, she would be more than happy to do so and I'm pretty sure she would listen to you.

The whole .XXX thing is pretty confusing but you won't get anywhere talking to Joan like that.
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Yeah, um, I bet you won't.

You know that if you try to talk to her the way you claim, she wouldn't hesitate to put you in your place and do it in front of everyone.

Here's a better idea. If you disagree with what she says on anything I'm sure if you approach her and ask her to sit down with you for a while so you can explain her side and permit her the same curtsy, she would be more than happy to do so and I'm pretty sure she would listen to you.

The whole .XXX thing is pretty confusing but you won't get anywhere talking to Joan like that.
Holy fuck, shut the fuck up you fucking CANADIAN. LOL Jesus-fucking-Christ. "Don't talk to Joan like that, be polite, it won't get you anywhere, I'm Canadian and an appeaser and please like me and don't hit me, eh?"

Holy fuck Canuck, grow some balls.
I refer you to every South Park episode on this subject.

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OMFG "Please Joan, don't talk back to me, I'm a Canadian and let's just get along and sit down over a lager, eh?" Hahahahaha!

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Yeah, um, I bet you won't.

You know that if you try to talk to her the way you claim, she wouldn't hesitate to put you in your place and do it in front of everyone.

Here's a better idea. If you disagree with what she says on anything I'm sure if you approach her and ask her to sit down with you for a while so you can explain her side and permit her the same curtsy, she would be more than happy to do so and I'm pretty sure she would listen to you.

The whole .XXX thing is pretty confusing but you won't get anywhere talking to Joan like that.
HAHAHAHAHA!!! "Put you in your place". HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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Yeah, um, I bet you won't.

You know that if you try to talk to her the way you claim, she wouldn't hesitate to put you in your place and do it in front of everyone.

Here's a better idea. If you disagree with what she says on anything I'm sure if you approach her and ask her to sit down with you for a while so you can explain her side and permit her the same curtsy, she would be more than happy to do so and I'm pretty sure she would listen to you.

The whole .XXX thing is pretty confusing but you won't get anywhere talking to Joan like that.
I lol'ed @ your post
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Yeah, um, I bet you won't.

You know that if you try to talk to her the way you claim, she wouldn't hesitate to put you in your place and do it in front of everyone.

Here's a better idea. If you disagree with what she says on anything I'm sure if you approach her and ask her to sit down with you for a while so you can explain her side and permit her the same curtsy, she would be more than happy to do so and I'm pretty sure she would listen to you.

The whole .XXX thing is pretty confusing but you won't get anywhere talking to Joan like that.
i've been arguing with Greg Dumas and Vaughn Liley on their presentations and in person. i have told both of them exactly what i wrote above (the child protection bullshit part) - yet i have been always polite and aside our disagreement about their business i have no personal problems with them at all.

and i don't think i need lessons in how i tell people what i think
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i've been arguing with Greg Dumas and Vaughn Liley on their presentations and in person. i have told both of them exactly what i wrote above (the child protection bullshit part) - yet i have been always polite and aside our disagreement about their business i have no personal problems with them at all.

and i don't think i need lessons in how i tell people what i think
Both morons. Seriously Stefan, consider the source of the advice.
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?There are benefits to adult entertainment companies to buy a .XXX and there will be returns on investment,? Irvine said. ?Along with having McAfee protecting the site and having child protections built into the domain, ICM Registry will be developing a .XXX portal to help people find sites.

?A lot of it is so people can feel more comfortable. A lot of people were getting scared to go to adult sites, afraid there?d be child pornography and viruses.?

Irvine told the Times that the industry is frustrated over how the public associates adult entertainment with child porn and noted that studies show about 90 percent of the material originates from sources such as organized crime. ?Everyone assumes it?s the [adult] industry, but it?s not. The industry has every reason to want to self-regulate, support child protection and reinforce its distance from illegal activity,? Irvine said.

What a load of bullshit, nice try on the spin.
What part was spin?
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Old 09-25-2011, 08:17 AM   #43
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She is just part of the problem not part of any reasonable solution ...
What "problem" is she part of?
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Old 09-25-2011, 08:22 AM   #44
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Yeah, um, I bet you won't.

You know that if you try to talk to her the way you claim, she wouldn't hesitate to put you in your place and do it in front of everyone.

Here's a better idea. If you disagree with what she says on anything I'm sure if you approach her and ask her to sit down with you for a while so you can explain her side and permit her the same curtsy, she would be more than happy to do so and I'm pretty sure she would listen to you.

The whole .XXX thing is pretty confusing but you won't get anywhere talking to Joan like that.
My opinion: you won't get anywhere with her talking like that either
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Old 09-25-2011, 08:28 AM   #45
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What part was spin?
"how the public associates adult entertainment with child porn and noted that studies show about 90 percent of the material originates from sources such as organized crime" - Most average people do not associate porn with cp, just religious or right wing types.

"The industry has every reason to want to self-regulate, support child protection and reinforce its distance from illegal activity" - The industry including the ASACP where Joan last worked already does that.

Selective statements used to support her agenda of .xxx promotion.
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Old 09-25-2011, 08:36 AM   #46
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"how the public associates adult entertainment with child porn and noted that studies show about 90 percent of the material originates from sources such as organized crime" - Most average people do not associate porn with cp, just religious or right wing types.

"The industry has every reason to want to self-regulate, support child protection and reinforce its distance from illegal activity" - The industry including the ASACP where Joan last worked already does that.

Selective statements used to support her agenda of .xxx promotion.
Already does it or tries to do it? I suggest the latter. The one thing ICM has that ASACP does not is money. Lots and lots of money. To suggest that people do not think the adult industry is responsible for CP is being naive. To think that we can not use all the help we can get in that field is inane. The industry may have every reason to want to self-regulate does not mean that we do. I can not think of any self-regulation in this biz. Can you?
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Old 09-25-2011, 08:36 AM   #47
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That bitch is nothing more than a leech in this industry.
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Old 09-25-2011, 08:42 AM   #48
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Lloyd, remember our conversation in the lobby that night? i think that article is proof enough that this topic wasn't dropped
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Old 09-25-2011, 08:49 AM   #49
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“A lot of it is so people can feel more comfortable. A lot of people were getting scared to go to adult sites, afraid there’d be child pornography and viruses.”

That is why pornhub is the 70th largest site in the world according to Alexa and no mention of any virus or cp in the reviews:

http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/pornhub.com
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Old 09-25-2011, 08:53 AM   #50
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Site ranked #50 in the world by Alexa is LiveJasmin, people complain about lots of details like their use of popunder promotion, customer service etc. Not one mention of viruses or cp:

http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/livejasmin.com
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