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Robbie · 10-17-2011, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K

they ONLY showed burning cars and violent images.

The media will not benefit from the movement, so they will continue to vilify it.

I don't think they are trying to "villify" it. ESPECIALLY MSNBC which is crazy left biased.

I think they are showing the burning cars in ROME because they want ratings.
And the times I've seen the burning cars footage the reporter sounds pretty sympathetic to the protestors.

You know they always spin that stuff.
Just like when the Libyan Army tried to go into a town held by rebels. We bombed the fuck out of them and our govt. controlled media "reported" that it was to stop Ghadafi from slaughtering his citizens.
Now they show footage of the town Serta (I think that was the town) and it shows the NEW Libyan govt. forces (the former "rebels") rolling through town with military vehicles and the whole town is in ruins. And they "report" that the new govt. forces are trying to "take control" of the city full of "pro-Ghadafi" "forces".

In other words...it's okay for "our side" to slaughter civilians. lol

The media is 100% run by the U.S. Govt.
As is every aspect of your life.

Robbie · 10-17-2011, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

Did she make this sign?

She probably didn't. But the words are 100% true and apply to our country all the way. We definitely aren't "Free" even though we think we are.

sperbonzo · 10-17-2011, 10:22 AM

?If the natural tendencies of mankind are so bad that it is not safe to permit people to be free, how is it that the tendencies of these organizers are always good? Do not the legislators and their appointed agents also belong to the human race? Or do they believe that they themselves are made of a finer clay than the rest of mankind??
― Frédéric Bastiat, The Law

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The Demon · 10-17-2011, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

What are you talking about? What "corporate-run media outlet" have you heard say that?

Dude...you are so caught up in being a "democrat" that you can't see things clearly.
I for one, haven't heard any newscasts say "blame the govt., not corps"

Matter of fact, all I hear is the opposite. The media in our country doesn't question our govt. at all.

As I said in another post...back during the 1960's and 1970's the media was all over the govt.

Now? They just "report" whatever is on the sheet of paper they receive from the White House press secretary.

For the last 20 years or so I don't see the press EVER do any real investigative reporting on the corruption going on in Washington.

Forgive his ignorance. Only on the internet do you find semi retarded human beings who play the "someone is pulling the strings while you are all sheep" routine. It's hysterical.

devilspost · 10-17-2011, 10:24 AM

I would occupy that pussy.

devilspost · 10-17-2011, 10:34 AM

Robbie · 10-17-2011, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by devilspost

Nope. You're too late. Thoughtful people have already begun to have a real discussion that requires reading skills and an attention span.

Barry-xlovecam · 10-17-2011, 10:40 AM

Suckin' mama's tit ...

Shotsie · 10-18-2011, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by kane

Makes a lot of sense. I graduated high school in 1989. I grew up in a small town that was a lumber milll town. At that time the minimum wage was around $3.25 per hour. A person at 18 years old could get a basic job in one of the lumber mills and make around $10 per hour. My brother did and within a few years he was making $14. So he was 21 making about four times the minimum wage.

Here is the kicker. The wages at the mill have been stagnate. My brother left because he knew that his future there was not good and had a better opportunity and it was the best thing he ever did. In the town I grew up in there were three mills. One of them has shut down and the others only run a day shift, not 24/7 like they used to. The starting jobs there are now around $11 per hour, but minimum wage in my state is now $8.50.

The country is changing. The number of jobs a typical high school grad can get right out of school that turn into jobs that they can live a normal middle class life on are quickly disappearing. It is sad that now the choice seems to be to live on much lower wages, or go to school and get $50-$100K in debt in order to get a better paying job.

The problem is that we were sold this bullshit about America moving towards a service sector economy that has come home to roost. The problem with a service sector economy is that there is nothing tangible produced to support a nation's currency, it's all stuff like "consulting" and "finance", and it's caused massive inflation. Not to mention most well paying service sector jobs require a college degree.

The American quality and standard of living will be stagnate over the next few generations, perhaps it will degrade slightly. As the global economy settles in on some equilibrium, developing nations standards of living will need to increase. Until that time, there is nothing that can be done short of out-and-out protectionism. And no self-respecting American consumerbot would ever go for that.

An 80¢/hr. factory worker in a plant in Xian Shaanxi Province is not improbable, but impossible to compete with today. The only thing to do is wait until his wages go up 400%(better hope they unionize over there and quick), and our buying power comes down 50%. At that point, when he is making about $2.80/hr, then and only then will domestic manufacturing begin to return, and thats in a scenario where some enterprising fool doesn't open a new plant in Burundi, Ethiopia, or the Democratic Republic of Congo.

The Demon · 10-18-2011, 09:47 PM

GregE · 10-18-2011, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Shotsie

The problem is that we were sold this bullshit about America moving towards a service sector economy that has come home to roost. The problem with a service sector economy is that there is nothing tangible produced to support a nation's currency, it's all stuff like "consulting" and "finance", and it's caused massive inflation. Not to mention most well paying service sector jobs require a college degree.

The American quality and standard of living will be stagnate over the next few generations, perhaps it will degrade slightly. As the global economy settles in on some equilibrium, developing nations standards of living will need to increase. Until that time, there is nothing that can be done short of out-and-out protectionism. And no self-respecting American consumerbot would ever go for that.

An 80¢/hr. factory worker in a plant in Xian Shaanxi Province is not improbable, but impossible to compete with today. The only thing to do is wait until his wages go up 400%(better hope they unionize over there and quick), and our buying power comes down 50%. At that point, when he is making about $2.80/hr, then and only then will domestic manufacturing begin to return, and thats in a scenario where some enterprising fool doesn't open a new plant in Burundi, Ethiopia, or the Democratic Republic of Congo.

The American public was never sold on the idea of a service sector economy.

Instead, that concept was shoved down their throats by both political parties.

Let's not forget that had he not flaked out, Ross Perot may well have become this country's first elected third party president on the strength of his condemnation of NAFTA alone.

Since then, both political parties have continued to sing the same song regarding all but a handful of bullshit peripheral issues like "family values" and such.

Bottom line: At present, the ballot box offers no real alternative for a lot of pissed off American voters. Hence, the popularity of, first the teabaggers and now, the Occupy Wall Street movement.

BFT3K · 10-18-2011, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by The Demon

This guy is a fear-mongering moron. No wonder you like him. Birds of a feather.

Almost every one of his idiotic videos is about the end of the world.

The Demon · 10-18-2011, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K

This guy is a fear-mongering moron. No wonder you like him. Birds of a feather.

Almost every one of his idiotic videos is about the end of the world.

Translation: I have no idea what he's saying because I don't have common sense nor a basic understanding of economics, so I'm going to call you a sheep or whatever while I continue my leftist sheep mentality without even attempting a logical argument.

As usual, good show BFT3K.

porno jew · 10-18-2011, 10:14 PM

no one was ever sold the idea of a "service sector" economy. what was pushed was alvin-toffler bs about a third wave information society. while everyone was focused on that carrot unions were crippled and real wage jobs sent overseas. the reality that was left was a service sector economy, because lets face it tech and computer jobs will always be for a small sector of the population.

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Originally Posted by Shotsie

The problem is that we were sold this bullshit about America moving towards a service sector economy that has come home to roost. The problem with a service sector economy is that there is nothing tangible produced to support a nation's currency, it's all stuff like "consulting" and "finance", and it's caused massive inflation. Not to mention most well paying service sector jobs require a college degree.

The American quality and standard of living will be stagnate over the next few generations, perhaps it will degrade slightly. As the global economy settles in on some equilibrium, developing nations standards of living will need to increase. Until that time, there is nothing that can be done short of out-and-out protectionism. And no self-respecting American consumerbot would ever go for that.

An 80¢/hr. factory worker in a plant in Xian Shaanxi Province is not improbable, but impossible to compete with today. The only thing to do is wait until his wages go up 400%(better hope they unionize over there and quick), and our buying power comes down 50%. At that point, when he is making about $2.80/hr, then and only then will domestic manufacturing begin to return, and thats in a scenario where some enterprising fool doesn't open a new plant in Burundi, Ethiopia, or the Democratic Republic of Congo.

Barry-xlovecam · 10-18-2011, 10:15 PM

9-9-9 is idiotic drool ...

Any sales tax that includes food and prescription drugs and other medical services (are services to be taxable too? -- They are also "sales") is totally regressive horseshit -- are rents also taxable? I didn't hear of stocks, bonds or other financial instruments and real estate transactions being taxable. How about capital gains? Would they be taxed at 9% instead of todays reduced rate of 15%?

Almost all mainstream politicians and economists discredit the 9-9-9 proposal.

I could support a fair flat tax even though it would cost me some money but this 9-9-9 is total bullshit.

SleazyDream · 10-18-2011, 10:22 PM

occupy wall street is no different then what happened with the early credit card bangers in porn.

yes it was wrong, but no violence happened. so no one was punished, they got away with it. yes a couple of people were made examples of, but only a SMALL percentage. basically the vast majority of bankers got away with it, and rubbed it in everyone's face when they got the bailout and then all took bonuses.

so I think what everyone is protesting about is that they were all too stupid to get in on it when the getting was good, that there is no real law. Law exists only for those with money. Money buys right. and as much as we all don't want to think that's true, that's the way it is.

BFT3K · 10-18-2011, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

occupy wall street is no different then what happened with the early credit card bangers in porn.

yes it was wrong, but no violence happened. so no one was punished, they got away with it. yes a couple of people were made examples of, but only a SMALL percentage. basically the vast majority of bankers got away with it, and rubbed it in everyone's face when they got the bailout and then all took bonuses.

so I think what everyone is protesting about is that they were all too stupid to get in on it when the getting was good, that there is no real law. Law exists only for those with money. Money buys right. and as much as we all don't want to think that's true, that's the way it is.

Yeah, it was the poor people's fault for not being rich enough to rip-off the poor people.

Cool analogy!

The Demon · 10-18-2011, 10:28 PM

Yea, it was the rich people's fault for living beyond their means. It was the rich people's fault for getting hilariously low ARMs that they couldn't afford. That's the beauty about the left. You don't need to take responsibility for anything, just blame someone else.

Shotsie · 10-18-2011, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by GregE

The American public was never sold on the idea of a service sector economy.

Instead, that concept was shoved down their throats by both political parties.

Let's not forget that had he not flaked out, Ross Perot may well have become this country's first elected third party president on the strength of his condemnation of NAFTA alone.

Since then, both political parties have continued to sing the same song regarding all but a handful of bullshit peripheral issues like "family values" and such.

Bottom line: At present, the ballot box offers no real alternative for a lot of pissed off American voters. Hence, the popularity of, first the teabaggers and now, the Occupy Wall Street movement.

I was just a kid during that election. The only thing I remember about Ross Perot is that he reminded me of Frank Perdue - the guy who sold chickens. The fucked up thing is, that's probably all that most people who were adults at the time remember, too. His policies actually made a lot of sense though.

BFT3K · 10-18-2011, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by The Demon

Yea, it was the rich people's fault for living beyond their means. It was the rich people's fault for getting hilariously low ARMs that they couldn't afford. That's the beauty about the left. You don't need to take responsibility for anything, just blame someone else.

Can you see the world around you, with your head jammed that far up your own ass?

The Demon · 10-18-2011, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K

Can you see the world around you, with your head jammed that far up your own ass?

I have to give credit to the people in the white jackets at the mental asylum. They finally got you typing barely coherent sentences, regardless of their stupidity.

BFT3K · 10-19-2011, 10:30 AM

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2011/10...esident-obama/

GregE · 10-19-2011, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Shotsie

I was just a kid during that election. The only thing I remember about Ross Perot is that he reminded me of Frank Perdue - the guy who sold chickens. The fucked up thing is, that's probably all that most people who were adults at the time remember, too.

The fact that he didn't look like the sort of guy Hanes hires to model their shirts didn't help any. What really killed his chances though was his dropping out of and then reentering the race.

That's when he made it breathtakingly easy for his opponents to portray him as a headcase.

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Originally Posted by Shotsie

His policies actually made a lot of sense though.

Damn straight they did

Minte · 10-19-2011, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2011/10...esident-obama/

The message came from activist (and traitor) Melissa Brookstone,

sperbonzo · 10-19-2011, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2011/10...esident-obama/

BFT3K · 10-19-2011, 11:38 AM

Cool, here's one back for you...

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics...treet-20111018

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