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Choker · 10-23-2011, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc

A 3k sq foot house costs roughly $8-15k to have solar installed.... divide that over 5 years and it's cheaper than your electric bill is monthly, meaning it instantly starts returning on the investment, without a single tax break - and it instantly increase the value of your house - paying for it again when you sell the house.

The buy back is a bonus, you don't need it to get a return on your investment.

It helps States to get people on Solar, the tax benefit helps us in the long run more than it hurts... they're helping resupply the very over used power grids and they take none off of it, decreasing the strain on it.

Your estimates sound like they are direct from the manufacturer. The real cost is double what you quote. 8k is not gonna get enough solar panels to power a mobile home, let alone a 3k square foot house.

Jakez · 10-23-2011, 09:16 PM

Is it even possible to fully power your house on solar panels installed on the average sized suburban property?

Choker · 10-23-2011, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Jakez

Is it even possible to fully power your house on solar panels installed on the average sized suburban property?

No it's not. People brag about "selling" thier power back to the power company. What they forget to tell you is that in most situations for maybe 1 or 2 hours a day during the brightest time do they generate more than they consume. The rest of the time they are buying some if not all from the grid. Nighttime 100% from the grid. I have spent a lot on solar and use it for backup purposes. It's still far cheaper to use grid power than solar. I hope this changes soon but for now solar is not worth it, even with the rebates.

TheDoc · 10-23-2011, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Jakez

Is it even possible to fully power your house on solar panels installed on the average sized suburban property?

Depending on your location, ie: sunlight... yes, without question.

Jakez · 10-23-2011, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc

Depending on your location, ie: sunlight... yes, without question.

Well both me and Choker live in Orlando (plenty of sunlight) and he has experience and says no, not even close.. I'd have to agree with him or else I'd see them all over the place and not on just a few random (suckers) houses here and there.

TheDoc · 10-23-2011, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Choker

Your estimates sound like they are direct from the manufacturer. The real cost is double what you quote. 8k is not gonna get enough solar panels to power a mobile home, let alone a 3k square foot house.

Yeah, that's why I have a range, 8-15k, and if you double 8k, you get 16k, so I pretty much doubled it.

Costs depends on what your power needs are, if you use a lot or get little sunlight, it's going to cost a lot more in panels and labor, and that can be way more than double.

You can have solar and still use power, just pay a reduced bill... some people only get enough panels to power the house without heavy use, no hot-tubs, or anything extra really. Even if you only got 1 panel, it's a reduction in your cost.

So it can be even less than $8k.

TheDoc · 10-23-2011, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Jakez

Well both me and Choker live in Orlando (plenty of sunlight) and he has experience and says no, not even close.. I'd have to agree with him or else I'd see them all over the place and not on just a few random (suckers) houses here and there.

Well he's incorrect.... unless he's meaning you can't do solar at night, but then - come on.

The power companies buy from you during the day and you buy from them at night, at a reduced rate, you win... if you happen to need power and more than you put in, then no big deal you get a reduce bill then.

crockett · 10-24-2011, 03:36 AM

This site has been around quite some time and gives pretty detailed info on what they produce per month.

http://www.solarhouse.com/

I think if you have the roof space then it's likely easily enough to produce enough power. The problem is who the hell would want to deal with a 20 year contract via some rental plan.

cooldude7 · 10-24-2011, 03:56 AM

sorry for offtopic.,
but is this site has
http://www.vivintsolar.com/

video in html5 or something like that ??

Chris · 10-24-2011, 04:17 AM

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Originally Posted by bossku69

they pay to install and you pay them until they decide to jack up the costs and then when you cancel, you have to pay HUGE fees to have them removed

the contract states that they can not increase more than a total of 3.something % over the 20 years ..

grumpy · 10-24-2011, 05:12 AM

The best way to compare the value of two solar cells is to measure the dollars/watt ratio. The current best deals on solar cells is about $4.30 per watt. For a 50 watt solar panel, your total cost will be about $215. Keep this in mind when asesssing the cost and purchasing solar cells and panels.

devilspost · 10-24-2011, 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by grumpy

The current best deals on solar cells is about $4.30 per watt.

http://www.sunelec.com/ $1.34 /W

I predict solar modules prices will be quoted by the Chinese at Solar Power Int., In Dallas from the 16th to the 21st as follows: Grade A 85¢, Grade B (cosmetics) 50¢/Watt.

Barefootsies · 10-26-2011, 03:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Jakez

Cool idea, but a little far fetched, and where I'm at they will work on a section of road for years upon years, I can't imagine what it'd be like waiting for them to install glass roads.

The U.S. interstate system was not built overnight.

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cooldude7 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Heaven Posts: 4,306	sorry for offtopic., but is this site has http://www.vivintsolar.com/ video in html5 or something like that ??