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harvey · 10-21-2011, 03:10 PM

fiddy take overs!

signupdamnit · 10-21-2011, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by InfoGuy

There are some ND sites that still convert at better than 1:200.

Using whose stats though? As I understand it those aren't raws. I don't believe they are even first page uniques, are they?

signupdamnit · 10-21-2011, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Kenny B!

You're starting to sound like Pauly M. My father taught me to never count someone else's money and to never pay attention to anyone's bank account, but my own.

He also told me not to talk about things I have no clue about, but this is gfy after all, if people followed that piece of advice the board would have very few posts.

Not to knock your dad. He was/is probably a great guy. But . . .Yet you feel the need to reply and chastise him for stating his opinion. On one hand you're a great sage on the other hand everyone else is ignorant, knows nothing, and should just shut up. Interesting. I must ask what makes you any better than him or the rest of us? Why are you the only one who should be allowed to speak and state opinions?

Did I see you also in the Melissa Money and the FNCash threads? I thought I did. Can't be sure now and don't have the time to check but I think I recall you making a certain impression on me...

Dubya · 10-21-2011, 03:22 PM

probably true else Nathan or someone from RK would be here denying it.

InfoGuy · 10-21-2011, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by signupdamnit

Using whose stats though?

ND stats

Vjo · 10-21-2011, 05:00 PM

When they raised the min to $300 beginning of the year (or end of last year), that was a sign of things to come.

That ALWAYS means the affil is gonna get fucked eventually.

Links pulled.

JA$ON · 10-21-2011, 05:04 PM

No, it is NOT true

IndustryTruth · 10-21-2011, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by JA$ON

No, it is NOT true

Really? Is that why the old new age location is going to be for webcams and they're going to shoot content at the RK studio. Guess you're wrong bro

BlackCrayon · 10-21-2011, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Vjo

When they raised the min to $300 beginning of the year (or end of last year), that was a sign of things to come.

That ALWAYS means the affil is gonna get fucked eventually.

Links pulled.

min payout is still 50 bucks..

Mr Pheer · 10-21-2011, 06:35 PM

When they buy Penthouse/AFF, I'll retire from adult that same day.

Vjo · 10-21-2011, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

min payout is still 50 bucks..

Not for me. 50, 100, 200 are grayed out. Starts at $300.

I thought this was pretty common knowledge that they went to min $300 but maybe not. Anyone else at $50?

Sly · 10-21-2011, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Vjo

Not for me. 50, 100, 200 are grayed out. Starts at $300.

I thought this was pretty common knowledge that they went to min $300 but maybe not. Anyone else at $50?

It could be dependent on your location or payout method as well.

WarChild · 10-21-2011, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Vjo

Not for me. 50, 100, 200 are grayed out. Starts at $300.

I thought this was pretty common knowledge that they went to min $300 but maybe not. Anyone else at $50?

I think $300 is the minimum wire payment. $50 is for checks. Are you sure you're using checks?

Vjo · 10-21-2011, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by WarChild

I think $300 is the minimum wire payment. $50 is for checks. Are you sure you're using checks?

Oh shit man. Thanks. I am using wires. Duh.

Links not pulled.

Pays to read GFY. Now I got a payment coming next period.

Sigh. I think I am getting a little slower in my advancing age. Thanks again.

Edit: And thanks BlackCrayon and Sly too.

For a long time $50 was the min for wires so I ASSuMEd...

It's the little stuff that goes first. hehe

Vjo · 10-21-2011, 07:21 PM

Confirmed. I am set for $50 now. I feel a whole lot better about ND again now. I was thinking for months they raised it.

Hopefully they will continue to rock. I have always been their #1 fan. In the day, my bank's $13 wire fee didnt matter. Now days I am glad to go with check and save it.

Robbie · 10-21-2011, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Kenny B!

My father taught me to never count someone else's money and to never pay attention to anyone's bank account, but my own.

Promoted Jug Cash from back when they first started. When I was making 200 sales month with Nasty Dollars simply running their hosted galleries...I'd make maybe 30 sales a month with Jug Cash. They just never were a big seller for us. And my other friends in this business who had big traffic like we did reported the same thing.

I do know that Pornhub has millions of unique visitors per day and that they are making a killing off of their white label for streamate. Enough just there to buy a big program.
And I do know that their paysites are feeling the same (self-induced in their case) pain that all major generic paysites are feeling when everything is free.

I don't need to know their exact numbers. I do have as much or more experience in this business as most anybody...and using my knowledge I can tell you that Brazzers didn't buy shit. Manwin did. And Manwin's main money in ADULT is from Pornhub and the dozens of other big porn tubes that they have acquired. Doesn't take a genius to figure that out.

gabe100 · 10-21-2011, 09:07 PM

Talked to a guy close to RK here in LA and he said straight out no. On another board, A rep from RK is saying nope, business as usual. Sources close to Brazzers say this shit is signed sealed and delivered. For sure, rock solid closed and xhamster is next.

Congrats to all.

DoubleT · 10-22-2011, 04:57 AM

Brazzers says yes, RK says no.

But it takes two to tango.

Would be nice if someone from one of these companies could jump in and set the record straight.

porkbrothersdotnet · 10-22-2011, 06:23 AM

I just thought of a positive. Maybe RK will offer rev-share. ChaChing!

CaptainHowdy · 10-22-2011, 06:31 AM

Have a great weekend, everyone ...

ladida · 10-22-2011, 08:31 AM

Yea, hard time believing this. If they bought rk, did they buy their hosting company as well? Their billing company? Other parts of RK branch (naked, fling, muffia) .... ?

Yea, don't think so.

MaDalton · 10-22-2011, 08:43 AM

the funny thing is that nowadays almost no one would be surprised anymore if that really happens

Oracle Porn · 10-22-2011, 08:45 AM

that's huge....poor affiliates...

The Porn Nerd · 10-22-2011, 09:13 AM

So c'mon Manwin, if you got that kinda cash then throw us all a few bones, eh? $50 per GFY post, let's go....

Caligari · 10-22-2011, 09:18 AM

Shap · 10-22-2011, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by MisterPeabody

So c'mon Manwin, if you got that kinda cash then throw us all a few bones, eh? $50 per GFY post, let's go....

Lol Fabian doesn't deal in denominations under 8 figures and it looks like he's moving that to 9 lol

Porno Dan · 10-22-2011, 10:00 AM

Merger would make a lot of sense.

Take the traffic of Manwin and drive it to the areas where they are lacking like cams (Naked) and dating (Fling)

Take the management experience of the talented people at RK TV and have them run the newest Manwin acquisition Playboy TV.

Both companies have branched away from recorded content in a subscription based format as their primary sources of income and this really does seem like the perfect merger.

porno jew · 10-22-2011, 10:25 AM

that's for wires. that was swictehd after epassporte went down.

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Originally Posted by Vjo

Not for me. 50, 100, 200 are grayed out. Starts at $300.

I thought this was pretty common knowledge that they went to min $300 but maybe not. Anyone else at $50?

porno jew · 10-22-2011, 10:41 AM

brazzers is one of the op three biggest paysites, out there, if not the biggest. i'm sure it is doing ok.

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Originally Posted by Robbie

Or like 2005 (when Brazzers was at it's height of sales as a medium selling group of paysites) buying 2001 (when Nasty Dollars was at it's height of sales as a tremendous selling group of paysites)

What you should say is that PORNHUB and all the other tube sites Manwin owns bought them. "Brazzers" doesn't make enough money to buy shit.

porno jew · 10-22-2011, 11:19 AM

hope they keep smutpost active.

CamChameleon · 10-22-2011, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Porno Dan

Merger would make a lot of sense.

Take the traffic of Manwin and drive it to the areas where they are lacking like cams (Naked) and dating (Fling)

Take the management experience of the talented people at RK TV and have them run the newest Manwin acquisition Playboy TV.

Both companies have branched away from recorded content in a subscription based format as their primary sources of income and this really does seem like the perfect merger.

bDok · 10-22-2011, 11:35 AM

I'm just confused if this isn't true why someone from RK isn't in here saying it isn't happening. The fact that someone from manwin or rk isn't here I think says something without saying anything at all.

Robbie · 10-22-2011, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by bDok

I'm just confused if this isn't true why someone from RK isn't in here saying it isn't happening. The fact that someone from manwin or rk isn't here I think says something without saying anything at all.

I haven't seen anybody from Nasty Dollars around here in a long time (or at least I haven't noticed them)

And Fabian hasn't posted on GFY in about a month.

You have to remember that most companies don't run all their biz on GFY. And with the affiliate business model on life support anyway (how many of y'all have any traffic?), I guess it's not a priority to rush to GFY to give details.

Blazing · 10-22-2011, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Porno Dan

Merger would make a lot of sense.

Take the traffic of Manwin and drive it to the areas where they are lacking like cams (Naked) and dating (Fling)

Take the management experience of the talented people at RK TV and have them run the newest Manwin acquisition Playboy TV.

Both companies have branched away from recorded content in a subscription based format as their primary sources of income and this really does seem like the perfect merger.

Sounds right to me.. ;)

bDok · 10-22-2011, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

I haven't seen anybody from Nasty Dollars around here in a long time (or at least I haven't noticed them)

And Fabian hasn't posted on GFY in about a month.

You have to remember that most companies don't run all their biz on GFY. And with the affiliate business model on life support anyway (how many of y'all have any traffic?), I guess it's not a priority to rush to GFY to give details.

I felt like I was seeing like scubasteve postings around as of late. He's with RK isn't he? Or maybe he's with bang bros. I get them confused.
Oh well. We will know at some point one way or the other.

Sly · 10-22-2011, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by bDok

I felt like I was seeing like scubasteve postings around as of late. He's with RK isn't he? Or maybe he's with bang bros. I get them confused.
Oh well. We will know at some point one way or the other.

scuba is BBO.

Kenny B! · 10-22-2011, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by signupdamnit

Not to knock your dad. He was/is probably a great guy. But . . .Yet you feel the need to reply and chastise him for stating his opinion. On one hand you're a great sage on the other hand everyone else is ignorant, knows nothing, and should just shut up. Interesting. I must ask what makes you any better than him or the rest of us? Why are you the only one who should be allowed to speak and state opinions?

Did I see you also in the Melissa Money and the FNCash threads? I thought I did. Can't be sure now and don't have the time to check but I think I recall you making a certain impression on me...

I'm not chastising anyone, I'm giving my opinion like everyone else does around here, that's how we have conversations. I don't claim to be a great sage or more knowledgeable than anyone else, and the only person I feel is ignorant is Paul with the crap he spews all the time. But even he made a living doing what he loved and seems happy so I wish the man well.

I don't come around here beating my chest, thinking I'm better than anyone or talking down to people, at best I bust some balls but I can give it and take it.

I don't recall posting in any FNCash threads, as for the MM thread I just said something to the effect of most people posting probably weren't even owed any money and those that lost a bit should move on. Which is mighty hypocritical of me considering Mariah Milano owes me a couple hundred bucks and I won't let it go, so ya got me there. But really what's wrong with telling people to move on over being owed a few bucks, people tell me that all the time and really they're right.

As for my comments to Robbie, I just don't get why people think they have any clue as to how well other people do, or why it matters. So many people speculate how Fabian made the money needed to buy all the web properties he owns, how much of the company he actually owns, how much he makes etc. But to say Brazzers doesn't make enough to buy anything is ridiculous and I was just commenting on that. From where I sit I just assume that a paysite ranking under 1000 on alexa (for whatever that's worth) with ads all over the net does some decent business... which makes me a hypocrite again making assumptions about what Brazzers does in sales, I'm doing the same thing as Robbie but coming up with a different assumption. I just don't get why people care some much about what others make.

Robbie seems to be a hard working guy, I have nothing but respect for that. I don't know him but I know the owners of solo slut cash quite well, they are great people and wouldn't be in business with anyone who wasn't good people. I happen to disagree with the way he feels about Bazzers/Fabian and felt the need to say so. Which of their properties makes the most is anyone's guess, what difference does it make when it's all just pieces of the same pie. It's all semantics anyways, no individual site is making or facilitation these acquisitions anyways.

I'm not sure what impressions you have of me, but I'm not a hater or know it all, a smart ass at times perhaps.

Robbie · 10-22-2011, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Kenny B!

But to say Brazzers doesn't make enough to buy anything is ridiculous

What I said quite clearly is that Brazzers (Jug Cash) was never one of the biggest selling paysites. It started a little late in the game to really hit the big time as far as generic porn sites go. It was a decent selling site for me.

And in 2011...it's selling a lot less than it was in 2005. Everything is as far as paysites go.

I was pointing out that "Brazzers" didn't buy anything. IF a sale took place...Manwin did the buying. And I don't care what Fabian tries to tell you...his biggest money in the Adult industry is coming from his tube sites off his whitelabels and pre-paid ad spots.

Nothing "wrong" with that. I was just making the observation that Brazzers is a paysite. It's not a person. It can't buy anything. And even if it could...they don't have enough paysite sales to buy Nasty Dollars.

Manwin obviously does have the money.

I get what you think you're trying to tell me. But I don't need to be told. I know enough about free sites and paysites to be able to make an educated guess that the paysite Brazzers isn't buying anything.

Manwin is.

And Manwin's main money in the adult business does not come from Brazzers.

You don't need to see their books to know that.

georgeyw · 10-22-2011, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Shap

Lol Fabian doesn't deal in denominations under 8 figures and it looks like he's moving that to 9 lol

There it is - Twistys sold for over 10 mil mark

I'm guessing either bang on 10

Shap · 10-22-2011, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by georgeyw

There it is - Twistys sold for over 10 mil mark

I'm guessing either bang on 10

10mil???? Ohhhh fuck I see what you did i'm including decimal points don't they count? If not drop that to 6 figures

bDok · 10-22-2011, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly

scuba is BBO.

Ok. Well then there goes that idea.

georgeyw · 10-23-2011, 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Shap

10mil???? Ohhhh fuck I see what you did i'm including decimal points don't they count? If not drop that to 6 figures

Definitely don't count - how many change tins do you have in your car / office / house / bedroom / kitchen. They don't count because no one uses it unless it's in your pocket at the exact moment you need it.

6 figures it not believeable

redhead · 10-24-2011, 03:37 AM

Bump...still no comment from either side??

DoubleT · 10-24-2011, 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by bDok

I'm just confused if this isn't true why someone from RK isn't in here saying it isn't happening. The fact that someone from manwin or rk isn't here I think says something without saying anything at all.

Monday morning and the silence is deafening.

redhead · 10-24-2011, 05:34 AM

Indeed, where are all the ITK's?

Lykos · 10-24-2011, 08:18 AM

Major steps from Fabian,as always...

vsex · 10-24-2011, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Shap

Lol Fabian doesn't deal in denominations under 8 figures and it looks like he's moving that to 9 lol

I see what you did there.

Robbie · 10-24-2011, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by DoubleT

Monday morning and the silence is deafening.

No shit! Don't these two major companies realize that the FIRST thing they need to do is come to a message board and tell a bunch of people using highschool nicknames (not directed at you personally...but the whole board) that may or may not be an affiliate of their cash programs (and in 2011 definitely DON'T have traffic unless your name is "FreeOnes") EXACTLY what they are doing!

Damn it! Who the hell do they think they are anyway? They do NOT want to piss of TeenCat or fatfoo!

MaDalton · 10-24-2011, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

No shit! Don't these two major companies realize that the FIRST thing they need to do is come to a message board and tell a bunch of people using highschool nicknames (not directed at you personally...but the whole board) that may or may not be an affiliate of their cash programs (and in 2011 definitely DON'T have traffic unless your name is "FreeOnes") EXACTLY what they are doing!

Damn it! Who the hell do they think they are anyway? They do NOT want to piss of TeenCat or fatfoo!

he... everytime i read "Robbie" i am reminded of my favorite childhood TV puppet show

DWB · 10-24-2011, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

They do NOT want to piss of TeenCat or fatfoo!

I think all of us walk on eggshells around fatfoo.

10-21-2011, 03:10 PM	#51
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10-21-2011, 07:21 PM	#65
Vjo So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Happy 4th of July :) Posts: 6,082	Confirmed. I am set for $50 now. I feel a whole lot better about ND again now. I was thinking for months they raised it. Hopefully they will continue to rock. I have always been their #1 fan. In the day, my bank's $13 wire fee didnt matter. Now days I am glad to go with check and save it. Last edited by Vjo; 10-21-2011 at 07:33 PM..

10-22-2011, 06:23 AM	#69
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10-21-2011, 03:22 PM	#54
Dubya So Fucking Banned Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 1,152	probably true else Nathan or someone from RK would be here denying it.

10-21-2011, 05:00 PM	#56
Vjo So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Happy 4th of July :) Posts: 6,082	When they raised the min to $300 beginning of the year (or end of last year), that was a sign of things to come. That ALWAYS means the affil is gonna get fucked eventually. Links pulled.

10-21-2011, 05:04 PM	#57
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10-21-2011, 06:35 PM	#60
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10-21-2011, 09:07 PM	#67
gabe100 Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 459	Talked to a guy close to RK here in LA and he said straight out no. On another board, A rep from RK is saying nope, business as usual. Sources close to Brazzers say this shit is signed sealed and delivered. For sure, rock solid closed and xhamster is next. Congrats to all.

10-22-2011, 04:57 AM	#68
DoubleT Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 39	Brazzers says yes, RK says no. But it takes two to tango. Would be nice if someone from one of these companies could jump in and set the record straight.

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10-22-2011, 09:13 AM	#74
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10-22-2011, 11:35 AM	#82
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10-24-2011, 03:37 AM	#93
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10-24-2011, 05:34 AM	#95
redhead Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 85	Indeed, where are all the ITK's?

10-24-2011, 08:18 AM	#96
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