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Old 10-21-2011, 07:30 PM   #1
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If your woman ever comes down with thyroid issues, just kill yourself

Believe me.. just do it.. Fucking, just, do it.
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well what happened?
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Funny...mine was just diagnosed.
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Old 10-21-2011, 07:35 PM   #4
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Kill yourself? In your case that's probably a good idea.

Why don't you get really drunk and listen to this on repeat and see if any other ideas come to you though:
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you could always get another one.
Yeah, well, I was trying not to bail on someone for getting sick.

Long story short, she's been to the doctor several times now and they can't figure out what is wrong. And she is a nightmare.

Last weekend she simply disappeared.. Found out she has been alone in her room just laying there... And had gone to the hospital saturday for a huge mental episode

No internet no phone at her place.. and she won't come to the door .. so just climbing walls since saturday hoping she's okay .... it has me beside myself

And I don't think the bitch could care less than she does.. I mean she is just devoid of any conscience. It is too bad. I know there is a hell of a woman there if she could get well.

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Funny...mine was just diagnosed.
Run
Away

Quickly

It ain't worth it. I have never been hurt or used so much, in my life. And it makes them turn right around and not give a FUCK. No matter how loving and caring they were, before.

Get rid of her N O W
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Run
Away

Quickly

It ain't worth it. I have never been hurt or used so much, in my life. And it makes them turn right around and not give a FUCK. No matter how loving and caring they were, before.

Get rid of her N O W
She will have to take thyroid medicine or it will only get worse as she descends in to
clinical dementia.

I've seen it, it's real.

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dude, it's just a coincidence that she went bat shit crazy now, it has nothing to do with her thyroid issues... and actually 99% of women are like that...
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Relationships are just as much about the bad times as they are the good. That doesn't mean a caregiver doesn't need their own TLC though.
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She will have to take thyroid medicine or it will only get worse as she descends in to
clinical dementia.

I've seen it, it's real.

They won't decide what treatment she needs.. She supposedly had an appointment with a new doc, I did talk to her maybe for ten minutes monday...

A couple of weeks ago she had an apointment at the best place in the state- then we find out the endo there has terrible reviews, and for a reason

What the fuck do I do, now.. she has no phone or internet... the land woman has a house phone, but she won't call me or answer it

I went by and she would not come to the door

This is the most god damned frustrating stupid thing this woman has ever fucking done
I ain't ate or slept since saturday over here
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I'm going for a quick diagnosis here ... Her erratic behavior started just after meeting you correct?

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Relationships are just as much about the bad times as they are the good. That doesn't mean a caregiver doesn't need their own TLC though.
I saw that correction
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Relationships are just as much about the bad times as they are the good. That doesn't mean a caregiver doesn't need their own TLC though.
Yeah and if she doesn't provide some TLC soon I'll go get it from a foxxxy lady friend out in Cali

I sure have had it
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I'm going for a quick diagnosis here ... Her erratic behavior started just after meeting you correct?

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Sorry to hear that, you sound like a good soul for helping all you can and sticking by her through all of this, despite her behavior.

Make sure you take care of yourself too though.
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Sorry to hear that, you sound like a good soul for helping all you can and sticking by her through all of this, despite her behavior.

Make sure you take care of yourself too though.

Thanks. I have not looked out for myself on this one. You would not believe all I did for her. Wore my car out driving the wheels off for her, paid most of her rent, dealt with ridiculous behavior, etc

I NEVER pay for things for a woman so this is out of character for me. I really see something in her, and want to do anything I can to get her fixed. But god damn... This being kept in the dark is the one thing I can't seem to deal with
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Any lab numbers to share? TSH, T4, T3, Reverse T3, TPO Antibodies??
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Any lab numbers to share? TSH, T4, T3, Reverse T3, TPO Antibodies??
We have them but they are at her place.. the one she "rented" about a month ago and still hasn't been able to pay a dime, for



I will see if I can possibly get them and post them some way.. The original round of tests showed her to be hyper... now this new doc says her levels were normal but she may be hypo? What the fuck is that shit? And the nodules on her thyroid, we STILL do not know if they are cancerous. There are several.

Oh and the new doc says she was negative for graves

At this rate she will end up being committed

What the hell can I even do

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They won't decide what treatment she needs.. She supposedly had an appointment with a new doc, I did talk to her maybe for ten minutes monday...

A couple of weeks ago she had an apointment at the best place in the state- then we find out the endo there has terrible reviews, and for a reason

What the fuck do I do, now.. she has no phone or internet... the land woman has a house phone, but she won't call me or answer it

I went by and she would not come to the door

This is the most god damned frustrating stupid thing this woman has ever fucking done
I ain't ate or slept since saturday over here


If she has hypothyroidism then she will have to get on medication and stay on it.

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Hypothyroidism is a medical condition that occurs when your thyroid gland does not produce enough of certain chemicals or hormones required for proper functioning. Dementia is a commonly overlooked symptom of the condition that often becomes misdiagnosed.

Read more: Dementia Due to Hypothyroidism | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/facts_5505433_de...#ixzz1bTpEq2RI
This shit is for real!!

I've seen it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Disclaimer : I hate quoting ehow, but it was easy.
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What can I do, go and break the door down? Sigh
This has been as hard on me as it has her, I tell you
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I see why a lot of men prefer to see this bitch, that slut and some other hoe ..... It is so they don't end up in shit like this. I do not want to see different women all of the time. I just want one good one to be a partner in crime with. I am fiercely loyal. Like that pitbull why tore the bumper off of a Police car.

I made a vanilla sucker out of myself on this one. FUCK
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Perhaps it's time to take a break.let her work out her issues and hopefully she will be ok.
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i agree with Spunky, you need some distance from this. i wouldn't normally ever say this when your partner is ill but hanging around being treated like garbage and left in the dark is obviously eating you alive. you can't force her to deal with this and you cant let it take you down too. best of luck and feel better doll
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I can only pray that one day you get sick and are given the same care and consideration you have given her.
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I can only pray that one day you get sick and are given the same care and consideration you have given her.
Thanks?

If anyone ever cared for me, this much, I would have a coronary right there on the spot
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i agree with Spunky, you need some distance from this. i wouldn't normally ever say this when your partner is ill but hanging around being treated like garbage and left in the dark is obviously eating you alive. you can't force her to deal with this and you cant let it take you down too. best of luck and feel better doll
I know that you two are right.. But love must be a real thing because I have the feeling in the pit of my stomach... like one has when they believe someone may be coming over to kill them..

Thank you angel, because you called me doll, so big kisses all over for you
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I do think of running away to see a lady friend or some kind of thing.. I just can see a really good blowjob from some other woman making my eyes heavy instead of feeling good

Love is real I think

Well it is the lower brain I guess .. sigh
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I can only pray that one day you get sick and are given the same care and consideration you have given her.
Nice fantasy.

The reason people go through so much strife to help other people is because
other people have no fucking clue about how much strife they cause.

This chick will incorrectly think he tried to kill her when this shit is finally over
and blame him for all her massive fuck ups.
And sadly, she will be believed by all of his friends.



It's only funny because it's true.
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Nice fantasy.

The reason people go through so much strife to help other people is because
other people have no fucking clue about how much strife they cause.

This chick will incorrectly think he tried to kill her when this shit is finally over
and blame him for all her massive fuck ups.
And sadly, she will be believed by all of his friends.



It's only funny because it's true.

You called it.. only I ain't got any friends (by choice)
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Did they confirm thyroid? Yes, i'm guilty of scanning the thread. I'll go back and read. The first thing i assume she needs is full blood panel done. See what/or if anything is lacking.

Now...this is a long shot, but hear me out. I went through something a few years ago that i never experienced before. I woke one day out of the blue in a 'doom and gloom' mood. Through out the day, it got more extreme. Over the next few days, it got worst and worst. After a few more days, it got so bad that i wouldn't get out of bed. There was no joy in anything...i was dead inside. Went to Dr's and they told me i was depressed and needed medication (of course they did). I told the Dr's that i don't have a history of it. They didn't care, they wanted me on medication.

The next day i got to a place in mind where i thought to myself, there is no fucking way i'm going to live like this. If this is the way it is, i'm fucking out of here. Yes, it was that bad. Again, never in my life have i ever went through any of this. I always hear of people having depression, but i never believed (or understood) how bad it can really get.

Now my girl is a nutrition whore. She came in with the thought of taking a list of everything i've eaten over the past week. After an hour of going through this process, she sat there staring at the page. She told me to "wait here and don't kill yourself till i get back."

Next I hear the blender going and she comes back with a drink and makes me drink it. After i slam it, she gives me another. Over the next 5 minutes, i swear to god, that doom and gloom drained from my body. I can't even explain that drain feeling. From then on, never experienced it again.

The problem? Lack of protein in my diet. What she gave me was a protein drink she put together. But what exactly happened? During my process of learning to eat vegetarian, i was cutting out/skipping some of the most basic principles. And that was my fault because i want to learn myself so it'll stick. If someone walks me through it, i won't remember it. Tough lesson learned.

I'm not saying at all the diet is the cure all or answer, but it's place to consider and certainly research. If it wasn't for her, i would be on medication right now, or dead.
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We have them but they are at her place.. the one she "rented" about a month ago and still hasn't been able to pay a dime, for



I will see if I can possibly get them and post them some way.. The original round of tests showed her to be hyper... now this new doc says her levels were normal but she may be hypo? What the fuck is that shit? And the nodules on her thyroid, we STILL do not know if they are cancerous. There are several.

Oh and the new doc says she was negative for graves

At this rate she will end up being committed

What the hell can I even do
Post them and I'll tell you what is wrong.

I used to be hypo... I know quite a bit about treating thyroid / metabolic issues. You'd be surprised at how many doctors treat thyroid issues improperly. My mom was on thyroid medication for many years and never felt any better... I helped her adjust her protocol and medication and now she feels 100x better.

The problem with doctors & thyroid issues is that the range on labs is so broad and as long as you're in range, a doctor will say "you're fine." You have to be pretty severely hypo to be outside of the normal range (for the "standard" marker, TSH), and by that time you're already suffering pretty badly.

Most doctors use the TSH marker to determine if someone is hypo. If TSH is high, it tells the doctor that the brain is sending a signal (TSH) to the thyroid gland to produce more thyroid hormone because there isn't enough to properly raise metabolism.

This is flawed. First because the range of TSH on labs that doctors will review is so broad (approximately 0.6 - 4.5), and second, because ANY thyroid medication a doctor prescribes will suppress TSH levels (i.e., bring them down). But this does not necessarily mean that you have a sufficient amount of thyroid hormone.

Then the doctor looks at your new TSH lab result and says, "ok you're fine now, it must be something else, here take these anti-depressants."

Essentially, if the dose of thyroid hormone one is prescribed is too low, you may be simply replacing the same amount of thyroid hormone you would naturally be producing and at the same time, making an incompetent doctor believe you're all better because TSH is now in range.

The best way to treat your thyroid properly is to either find a doctor that specializes in the condition (most GPs don't give a shit), or self medicate. After going to 4 doctors for my own issues for almost 2 years and failing; I was forced to educate myself tremendously on the subject and self-medicate.
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I understand your point about doctors, for sure!!

What the hell can I do, right now, though?

I can't sit still until I do something
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Did they confirm thyroid? Yes, i'm guilty of scanning the thread. I'll go back and read. The first thing i assume she needs is full blood panel done. See what/or if anything is lacking.

Now...this is a long shot, but hear me out. I went through something a few years ago that i never experienced before. I woke one day out of the blue in a 'doom and gloom' mood. Through out the day, it got more extreme. Over the next few days, it got worst and worst. After a few more days, it got so bad that i wouldn't get out of bed. There was no joy in anything...i was dead inside. Went to Dr's and they told me i was depressed and needed medication (of course they did). I told the Dr's that i don't have a history of it. They didn't care, they wanted me on medication.

The next day i got to a place in mind where i thought to myself, there is no fucking way i'm going to live like this. If this is the way it is, i'm fucking out of here. Yes, it was that bad. Again, never in my life have i ever went through any of this. I always hear of people having depression, but i never believed (or understood) how bad it can really get.

Now my girl is a nutrition whore. She came in with the thought of taking a list of everything i've eaten over the past week. After an hour of going through this process, she sat there staring at the page. She told me to "wait here and don't kill yourself till i get back."

Next I hear the blender going and she comes back with a drink and makes me drink it. After i slam it, she gives me another. Over the next 5 minutes, i swear to god, that doom and gloom drained from my body. I can't even explain that drain feeling. From then on, never experienced it again.

The problem? Lack of protein in my diet. What she gave me was a protein drink she put together. But what exactly happened? During my process of learning to eat vegetarian, i was cutting out/skipping some of the most basic principles. And that was my fault because i want to learn myself so it'll stick. If someone walks me through it, i won't remember it. Tough lesson learned.

I'm not saying at all the diet is the cure all or answer, but it's place to consider and certainly research. If it wasn't for her, i would be on medication right now, or dead.
Protein is the primary building block of our bodies. If you were building a brick house, they'd be the bricks.

Our cells are constantly turning over and if you don't have enough protein you'll enter a catabolic state where lean mass (muscle, organs, bones) start to break down in order to support this metabolic process. Your body basically begins eating away at itself.

Add to this insufficient calories via carbohydrates and fats (i.e., only eating vegetables) and you'll feel miserable as hell. You're essentially fasting.

In turn your metabolism will slow down tremendously making you extremely weak, tired, and lethargic. It does this as a survival mechanism. It will be hard to think clearly, cognition will suck, etc. The neurological impacts of an impaired metabolism are tremendous and can definitely lead to an altered / gloomy (and sometimes dreamlike) state of mind.

Glad to hear you're better.
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Old 10-21-2011, 11:07 PM   #37
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I understand your point about doctors, for sure!!

What the hell can I do, right now, though?

I can't sit still until I do something
Is she on any thyroid medication at all? Get her labs and I'll give you my thoughts on what I see. You can then at least approach a doctor with some valid concerns and a treatment plan, or buy some thyroid meds online and treat her yourself.

I'm most interested in these numbers and ranges if you have them: TSH, Free T4, Total T4, Free T3, Total T3, Reverse T3, Thyroid Antibodies (Anti TPO). The most useful would be TSH, Total T4, and Free T3.
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Old 10-21-2011, 11:10 PM   #38
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Is she on any thyroid medication at all? Get her labs and I'll give you my thoughts on what I see. You can then at least approach a doctor with some valid concerns and a treatment plan, or buy some thyroid meds online and treat her yourself.

She has them at her place, they're a couple of months old now.. I could also try to get copies of the most recent ones but I will need her to sign and fax (at the least) a form....

This is my fault or feels that way
If I would have worked or done anything to make more money all year she would be fixed and neither of us would have to go through this

If she dies fuck me I can't live with myself

Part of it is just panic mode or some thing because on the way back from going to her place to see about her my car broke down and I am stuck here ... I have to do something though .. fuck
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She doesn't have any medicine
Before I knew her some doctor put her on pristique and wellbutrin
I think because they missed the thyroid problem
She has been on antis for well over a decade
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Old 10-21-2011, 11:18 PM   #40
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Protein is the primary building block of our bodies. If you were building a brick house, they'd be the bricks.

Our cells are constantly turning over and if you don't have enough protein you'll enter a catabolic state where lean mass (muscle, organs, bones) start to break down in order to support this metabolic process. Your body basically begins eating away at itself.

Add to this insufficient calories via carbohydrates and fats (i.e., only eating vegetables) and you'll feel miserable as hell. You're essentially fasting.

In turn your metabolism will slow down tremendously making you extremely weak, tired, and lethargic. It does this as a survival mechanism. It will be hard to think clearly, cognition will suck, etc. The neurological impacts of an impaired metabolism are tremendous and can definitely lead to an altered / gloomy (and sometimes dreamlike) state of mind.

Glad to hear you're better.

Whats amazing is how fast the effects happen. That's exactly right and simliar to what my girl said!...I was fasting without knowing it. But yeah, i'm fine. Lasted a week and was cured in 5 minutes via the drink. But holy shit, that state of mind i don't wish on my worst enemy.
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She has them at her place, they're a couple of months old now.. I could also try to get copies of the most recent ones but I will need her to sign and fax (at the least) a form....

This is my fault or feels that way
If I would have worked or done anything to make more money all year she would be fixed and neither of us would have to go through this

If she dies fuck me I can't live with myself

Part of it is just panic mode or some thing because on the way back from going to her place to see about her my car broke down and I am stuck here ... I have to do something though .. fuck
Labs a couple of months old are fine.

Treating a thyroid is not hard and is EXTREMELY cheap. I mean, you can buy a year worth of thyroid medication online for around 75 bucks without a prescription. It's not a controlled substance either so there is no issue with importing them. Takes about two weeks to receive them though.
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Old 10-21-2011, 11:27 PM   #42
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Old 10-21-2011, 11:29 PM   #43
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Labs a couple of months old are fine.

Treating a thyroid is not hard and is EXTREMELY cheap. I mean, you can buy a year worth of thyroid medication online for around 75 bucks without a prescription. It's not a controlled substance either so there is no issue with importing them. Takes about two weeks to receive them though.

I will do what I can to get into contact with her, tomorrow. I do not know how to get over to her place but I will find a way and I'll stand my ass there till her stupid ass comes the fuck out if it takes three damned days for fuck sakes
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Old 10-21-2011, 11:33 PM   #44
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I do think of running away to see a lady friend or some kind of thing.. I just can see a really good blowjob from some other woman making my eyes heavy instead of feeling good

Love is real I think

Well it is the lower brain I guess .. sigh
This from the guy who

a) was staying with her but not paying half the bills because he's "a life changer"
b) is on here every other week with some hare brained scheme to make money without working
c) was whining and crying he was having to pay for stuff now

So really, which is it? And can you just shut the fuck up and man up and shoulder your goddamn responsibilities instead of coming here and whining and crying for sympathy and rewriting history already?

GET A FUCKING JOB.
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Old 10-21-2011, 11:40 PM   #45
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This from the guy who

a) was staying with her but not paying half the bills because he's "a life changer"
b) is on here every other week with some hare brained scheme to make money without working
c) was whining and crying he was having to pay for stuff now

So really, which is it? And can you just shut the fuck up and man up and shoulder your goddamn responsibilities instead of coming here and whining and crying for sympathy and rewriting history already?

GET A FUCKING JOB.

No- I paid a whole hell of a lot more than that when she lost/quit her job. Automobile registration, internet, utilities, the whole rent amount and more ...

But I still understand that it is my fault for not manning the fuck up and doing what I had to in order to get her treated- we did, finally, but it just is not going well

Her and I never had to go through this for so long. And you are right about me not manning up when I should have.

But I did pay the rent and drove the wheels off of my car taking her to places and everything else. I did not want to admit that I paid for EVERYTHING, before, because I am ashamed of being like a normal man- but I DID
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What does her poo look like? can you post pics of it? It might help???
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I unfortunately have one for a neighbor and it's a pain in the ass (she just woke me up screaming to her television set) ...
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Run
Away

Quickly

It ain't worth it. I have never been hurt or used so much, in my life. And it makes them turn right around and not give a FUCK. No matter how loving and caring they were, before.

Get rid of her N O W
We have three children, a house, etc...

It's not really that easy.
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maybe try to give her iodine instead of toxic drugs. Iodine is lacking in just about all modern food but it is a vital nutrition for the thyroid.
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