I'm looking for traffic sellers.

[Paul Markham]

I have a client whose setting up a mainstream site and he needs male traffic from US, Canada, Australia & EU mainly.

So traffic sellers, hit me up on ICQ or Skype. He's looking for a lot.

[drysky]

Getting traffic is the easiest job in porn Paul. Just do it yourself.

[WarChild]

Originally Posted by drysky

Getting traffic is the easiest job in porn Paul. Just do it yourself.

[u-Bob]

* trafficholder.
* trafficshop.

[Jakez]

Not sure if serious.. don't even feel like getting the image..

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by drysky

Getting traffic is the easiest job in porn Paul. Just do it yourself.

Cheaper and easier to get off traffic sellers.

See how easy it is to get.

Thanks Bob, if they want the business that know where I am.

[jimmycooper]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

if they want the business that know where I am.

Here are a few words of advice, Paul.

If you insist on giving traffic brokers the impression that you will be a demanding and difficult client, something that's usually not a recommended first move but can be on a situational basis, and given that you started off the thread by mentioning that you will almost certainly not be the decision maker when it comes to executing the buy, and might possibly just be an annoying middle man trying to squeeze out a cut, the least you could do is provide them with an RFP.

Though you're clearly not very good with the whole inputting of accurate data part of the process, you do seem to be at least somewhat competent when it comes to actually building spreadsheets. So, after you figure out all the variables that you'll be considering, make a spreadsheet sans data which looks just like how you will want your final spreadsheet to look like when analyzing all final offers and highlight the cells that you need filled out by each agency. Email it to them and tell them to fill out those exact cells and those exact cells only and that if they fill out anything other than those exact cells or if they add their little additional notes or whatever to the spreadsheet, that you will not consider them for the buy. Also tell them that if they want to include a pitch, standard rate card, or any other type of data other than what you have indicated on the rfp, tell them that they need to put it on a PDF and NOT in the text of the email. If more than one attachment, tell them to put them in a zip but attach the spreadsheet separately.

I've never purchased traffic before, but I oversaw all local print negotiations for a client who is at least one of the top 10 US advertisers, probably top 5, and if I wanted to open like an asshole, that's probably how I'd do it.

Good luck, champ!

[DamianJ]

Originally Posted by jimmycooper

Here are a few words of advice, Paul.

If you insist on giving traffic brokers the impression that you will be a demanding and difficult client, something that's usually not a recommended first move but can be on a situational basis, and given that you started off thread by mentioning that you will almost certainly not be the decision maker when it comes to executing the buy, and might possibly just be an annoying middle man trying to squeeze out a cut, the least you could do is provide them with an RFP.

Though you're clearly not very good with the whole inputting of accurate data part of the process, you do seem to be at least somewhat competent when it comes to actually building spreadsheets. So, after you figure out all the variables that you'll be considering, make a spreadsheet sans data which looks just like how you will want your final spreadsheet to look like when analyzing all final offers and highlight the cells that you need filled out by each agency. Email it to them and tell them to fill out those exact cells and those exact cells only and that if they fill out anything other than those exact cells or if they add their little additional notes or whatever to the spreadsheet, that you will not consider them for the buy. Also tell them that if they want to include a pitch, standard rate card, or any other type of data other than what you have indicated on the rfp, tell them that they to put it on a PDF and NOT in the text of the email. If more than one attachment, tell them to put them in a zip but attach the spreadsheet separately.

I've never purchased traffic before, but I oversaw all local print negotiations for a client who is at least one of the top 10 US advertisers, probably top 5, and if I wanted to open like an asshole, that's probably how I'd do it.

Good luck, champ!

Good advice. Although with traffic a lot of brokers sell utter shit. So I would get a short list of brokers. Set up accounts with all of them. Do some small buys, work out the CPA and measure that against the lifetime value of the customer.

Then you can start to begin to calculate which is the better broker for you. Although be aware, most of them that I have dealt with do act as if they don't even want your business. Putting a tender request here won't get you many suppliers. You need to be proactive.

Go for it Paul. I am sure you will provide an excellent middleman service for your client.

[jimmycooper]

Originally Posted by DamianJ

Good advice. Although with traffic a lot of brokers sell utter shit. So I would get a short list of brokers. Set up accounts with all of them. Do some small buys, work out the CPA and measure that against the lifetime value of the customer.

Then you can start to begin to calculate which is the better broker for you. Although be aware, most of them that I have dealt with do act as if they don't even want your business. Putting a tender request here won't get you many suppliers. You need to be proactive.

Go for it Paul. I am sure you will provide an excellent middleman service for your client.

Good adice as well and all the more reason to not use the 'Big Swinging Dick' method when you're starting the business relationship b/c the brokers with good traffic will almost certainly have an existing set of clients who are aware of that fact. While they probably don't like to turn a bunch of business away, they also probably don't want to spend too much time dealing with demanding pseudo-clients!

[Roald]

Originally Posted by drysky

Getting traffic is the easiest job in porn Paul. Just do it yourself.

HAHAHA

Hit me up Paul, got a ton of it. Not cheap though, but hey im sure your "client" wants to pay for quality too huh. I mean, pay peanuts get monkeys right ;)

[Babaganoosh]

I can send traffic from a few of my tube sites. Let me know if you're interested.

[Lisa_trafficshop]

Hey Paul,Trafficshop can feed your client's site with lots of targeted traffic from the countries you listed. Hitting you up on icq.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by jimmycooper

Here are a few words of advice, Paul.

If you insist on giving traffic brokers the impression that you will be a demanding and difficult client, something that's usually not a recommended first move but can be on a situational basis, and given that you started off the thread by mentioning that you will almost certainly not be the decision maker when it comes to executing the buy, and might possibly just be an annoying middle man trying to squeeze out a cut, the least you could do is provide them with an RFP.

Though you're clearly not very good with the whole inputting of accurate data part of the process, you do seem to be at least somewhat competent when it comes to actually building spreadsheets. So, after you figure out all the variables that you'll be considering, make a spreadsheet sans data which looks just like how you will want your final spreadsheet to look like when analyzing all final offers and highlight the cells that you need filled out by each agency. Email it to them and tell them to fill out those exact cells and those exact cells only and that if they fill out anything other than those exact cells or if they add their little additional notes or whatever to the spreadsheet, that you will not consider them for the buy. Also tell them that if they want to include a pitch, standard rate card, or any other type of data other than what you have indicated on the rfp, tell them that they need to put it on a PDF and NOT in the text of the email. If more than one attachment, tell them to put them in a zip but attach the spreadsheet separately.

I've never purchased traffic before, but I oversaw all local print negotiations for a client who is at least one of the top 10 US advertisers, probably top 5, and if I wanted to open like an asshole, that's probably how I'd do it.

Good luck, champ!

Thanks for the advice.

Truth is I am not a middle man, just someone doing someone a favor. Not getting a cut.

The client will deal direct with them, he just asked me to come up with some people who have traffic to sell. Rather than going into buying online adult traffic blind. He's not selling or giving away porn, yet still wants a lot of male traffic. Go figure the product.

He has built different sites and will test it, the man is no fool. He's made too much money in business to be anything but very clever.

I'm not chasing people, I'm the person with the contact. I'm not getting paid. I'm doing someone a favor.

If some of the traffic sellers want to sell. They need to come talk to me.

Thanks for quoting Damian. Yes I appreciate most of the traffic from adult will be poor quality for online adult. Still this client isn't selling porn. Yes sites are being set up to test traffic brokers traffic. As for them wanting me to come cap in hand?

[porno jew]

Originally Posted by jimmycooper

I've never purchased traffic before ....

in a way, the perfect person to advise paul.

[DamianJ]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

I'm not chasing people, I'm the person with the contact. I'm not getting paid. I'm doing someone a favor.

If some of the traffic sellers want to sell. They need to come talk to me.

Thanks for quoting Damian. Yes I appreciate most of the traffic from adult will be poor quality for online adult. Still this client isn't selling porn. Yes sites are being set up to test traffic brokers traffic. As for them wanting me to come cap in hand?

Paul, not sure you understood.

Traffic brokers do not chase after clients. Especially for small tests. It's a pain to set up, and it's more than likely you won't use them again. If you arrogantly post here saying they have to come to you and you are the big I am etc, you're gonna get no where.

People don't like dealing with arseholes. Try and be nice and human and you will get further. Especially as you are not the decision maker and are not really involved in any meaningful way.

Finally, you don't need to set up test sites to test the traffic. You just buy the traffic, send it to your ordinary site and using something like google analytics you plug in your goal URL and hey presto, it tells you what source is converting.

What you need to do is find a list of mainstream brokers, approach them all saying you are doing test buys, see who can do what you need in terms of geo etc, then test them.

Standing here acting as if it is a buyers' market will leave you with no leads for your friend, I promise you that.

HTH.

PS well done for keeping pretending I'm on ignore.

[porno jew]

paul you are just going to waste money sending traffic to your blog. honestly, the quality of writing is just too poor for anyone to bookmark and come back to it. i could write something for you, but honestly i doubt you could afford me. i don't write for peanuts.

[Wizzo]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

He's looking for a lot.

What is your idea of alot? Will he be spending over $100k a month?

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by Wizzo

What is your idea of a lot? Will he be spending over $100k a month?

Depends on the quality of the traffic. He can definitely afford to.

[WarChild]

Can't be that clever of a guy considering he's looking for traffic advice from somebody who doesn't know thing one about traffic.

I hope you advised him he should just buy some quality magazine content instead. Everyone knows once you do that the traffic just magically appears!

[Wizzo]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Depends on the quality of the traffic. He can definitely afford to.

Of course, just trying to get idea of what you think is alot as some of your posts would lead me to believe your idea of "alot" and mine might be different.

[WarChild]

Originally Posted by Wizzo

Of course, just trying to get idea of what you think is alot as some of your posts would lead me to believe your idea of "alot" and mine might be different.

I think Paul's idea of many words would differ from yours.

For example, after 30+ years of running a "successful" business, Paul has nothing to show from it except his pension.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by Wizzo

Of course, just trying to get idea of what you think is alot as some of your posts would lead me to believe your idea of "alot" and mine might be different.

His companies are worth millions and not in the low millions.

If you have something to offer 213 327 873.

[Kenny B!]

#1- Why are you looking for adult traffic for a mainstream site?
#2- Remind your client content is king, and not to worry about the traffic, you've reminded us of that enough times.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by Kenny B!

#1- Why are you looking for adult traffic for a mainstream site?
#2- Remind your client content is king, and not to worry about the traffic, you've reminded us of that enough times.

#1 Online porn traffis is 99% male.

#2 Yes and all he needs is male, preferably married and definitely with a CC, traffic.

I'm done chatting, I'm dong someone a favor and not earning. Hit me up or email me.

[jimmycooper]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Truth is I am not a middle man, just someone doing someone a favor.

I'm not exactly sure what your definition of 'favor' is or how your offering to do the favor came about, but people have to realize that the favor occurs at the point of offer. After that it's just shit that need to get done.

So, if your buddy was talking about how he was needing to buy some traffic and then you said something along the lines of 'Oh, I know a bit about buying traffic. I can do it for you!' you've already completed the favor portion of the process. Now you have a job to do and you need to deliver the goods because that is what your friend expects. Don't approach it in a way where it's like 'Oh, this is just a favor, so I can just kind of wing it because he's lucky I offered to do it for him in the first place."

If you do that and you end up coming back with crap, you'll be fucking him more than you'll be helping him. And if he has a deadline and will end up having to scramble around at the last minute doing what he thought you were supposed to be doing, coming back with crap is like fucking him with 12 inches of prison cock.

Sorry, this just happened to me. To make it worse, the person who fucked me was doing a favor to repay a favor. A favor where I know that I delivered the goods. That's like 14 inches of uncut federal prison cock. lol What a stupid fucking cunt.

Anyway I wasn't going to post anything here as it's for a mainstream project, but if anyone is expert level with Google Docs spreadsheets, shoot me an email. ICQ is for fags.

jimmycooper /@/ starletsheet /./ com

[Roald]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Cheaper and easier to get off traffic sellers.

See how easy it is to get.

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

#2 Yes and all he needs is male, preferably married and definitely with a CC, traffic.

I dont get it though, you always preach how most porn traffic is worthless with only 1:1000 or even worse buying. Yet here you are willing to buy cheap traffic?!

You know most of the traffic the brokers are selling is from the same sources you always whine about right?

I hope this favor turns out well for your "cllient"

[Mike Dutch]

what kind of traffic for what kind of product?

[DamianJ]

Paul, if your friend wants traffic of ABC1 males with a credit card, I wouldn't advice you recommend porn traffic to him. Mainly, as I am sure you are aware, that currently comes from free sites. Therefore almost instantly getting rid of one of the variables your friend is looking for.

He'd be better off buying mainstream traffic from brokers that could give him credit card holders.

Obviously be more expensive, but as you are looking at spending 100k a month at least then clearly money isn't the issue.

[blofer80]

This guy is so naive

[jollyhumper]

Originally Posted by drysky

Getting traffic is the easiest job in porn Paul. Just do it yourself.

I so believe you
But please, please, please (with sugar on top)
PLEASE tell me HOW!!!!

This will, as it seems now, baffles me to death

Jolly

---

Yea, basically: Noob, but a nice fellow. So figure your standing

[DamianJ]

Originally Posted by jollyhumper

I so believe you
But please, please, please (with sugar on top)
PLEASE tell me HOW!!!!

This will, as it seems now, baffles me to death

Jolly

---

Yea, basically: Noob, but a nice fellow. So figure your standing

It was a joke. Paul Markham has repeatedly said traffic is easy to get, anyone can do it, and it is shooting content that is hard.

So, some unkind people are posting mocking him for having to post here asking for traffic. They are also mocking him for asking for traffic from free tube sites (as he hates those and blames them for the demise of the industry he made millions in). They are also mocking him for thinking that even buying traffic is easy.

I think they are all meanies and I am trying to help Paul, as is the guy with the hot avatar.

Traditionally Paul isn't good at asking for help, or taking advice when given it. But this time I am sure he will come round.

@Paul, another thought I had is that as you are talking 6 figures a month, your friend would also be wise to consider other forms of marketing. A loose insert in a mag with demogs that match your needs would be good. If you use the NRS and TGI surveys you can find which titles will have a higher % of credit card ownership. Loose inserts make testing easier. Also, just buying some banners on some reputable sources would probably convert better than free tube porn traffic. Direct mail would also be a good one to look at as you could rent lists from publishers and ONLY target those with a credit card. Might want to look into radio spots or cable too.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by Roald

I dont get it though, you always preach how most porn traffic is worthless with only 1:1000 or even worse buying. Yet here you are willing to buy cheap traffic?!

You know most of the traffic the brokers are selling is from the same sources you always whine about right?

I hope this favor turns out well for your "cllient"

Well maybe you could inform us of what ratios you get per porn viewer on your site to buyers. Not banner clicks. So far only people count the people who can be bothered to click an ad or link. You know very well the people who have their hunger for porn satisfied for free, has killed more sales than it ever created.

The client already has one very good contact from this already, who is looking at business and not being blinkered into missing out on an opportunity.

Originally Posted by Mike Dutch

what kind of traffic for what kind of product?

Males in countries with a good living standard, CC and preferably married. So US, Canada, EU, AU, Japan, etc.

Product is free and non porn.

And that's all I'm saying.

Originally Posted by jollyhumper

I so believe you
But please, please, please (with sugar on top)
PLEASE tell me HOW!!!!

This will, as it seems now, baffles me to death

Jolly

---

Yea, basically: Noob, but a nice fellow. So figure your standing

It is easy to get. It's the numbers needed to get a sale that's hard. Some can finely tune and cast off the "bad" traffic. Still they have to start with it. Some can use SEO and get a decent quality yet mostly low numbers, some buy adwords and some just put up lots of free product, the product most of the porn was trying to sell, get 1 in 1,000s to buy and claim a victory.

Basically traffic is easy to get. buy it from Roald. Turning it into money is the hard part.

[Roald]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Well maybe you could inform us of what ratios you get per porn viewer on your site to buyers. Not banner clicks. So far only people count the people who can be bothered to click an ad or link. You know very well the people who have their hunger for porn satisfied for free, has killed more sales than it ever created.

The client already has one very good contact from this already, who is looking at business and not being blinkered into missing out on an opportunity.

you are predictable Paul, why not tell us why it now all of a sudden is ok to buy low quality traffic? You are looking for quality traffic yet dont want to pay for it.

I told you to contact me already. We got all the exact demographics you need. You are the one not willing to work with us and letting your board issues with me mess up a potentially good deal for your "client".

Great favor you are doing

EDIT: Dont bother contacting me if your client isn't willing to pay a good price. Quality has a price.

[porno jew]

how could putting paul in change of traffic buys go wrong?

his mystery benefactor must be a wizard whose jedi mind fuck marketing strategies are going right over my head.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by Roald

you are predictable Paul, why not tell us why it now all of a sudden is ok to buy low quality traffic? You are looking for quality traffic yet dont want to pay for it.

I told you to contact me already. We got all the exact demographics you need. You are the one not willing to work with us and letting your board issues with me mess up a potentially good deal for your "client".

Great favor you are doing

EDIT: Dont bother contacting me if your client isn't willing to pay a good price. Quality has a price.

I'm not looking, I'm not buying, I'm not doing any deals.

We are letting board issues stop you from making money and me passing your name on to the client. Who might give you a lot of business. At no time did I mention his budget except to Wizzo to say budget isn't a problem.

[stocktrader23]

Paul, this is going to end very badly and your friend is not going to be happy with you.

Edit: Even I may be able to help but I need to know what the end product is.

[DamianJ]

Bump for more brokers

[porno jew]

fuck traffic. what is the old saying? build a pay site filled with scared eastern european white slaves trembling why they take off their ripped panties and they will come?

[Jakez]

https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1034829

[Hollywood Horwitz]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

I have a client whose setting up a mainstream site and he needs male traffic from US, Canada, Australia & EU mainly.

So traffic sellers, hit me up on ICQ or Skype. He's looking for a lot.

Hey Paul,

I have exactly what your client is looking for, please have them contact me ( my sig is below) or LMK if I can contact them directly?

thanks!

[jimmycooper]

Originally Posted by porno jew

how could putting paul in change of traffic buys go wrong?

his mystery benefactor must be a wizard whose jedi mind fuck marketing strategies are going right over my head.

Hilarious. Just reading this now and am thankful to have chosen a Being John Malkovich analogy over the old faithful jedi analogy in another thread.

[papill0n]

haha well done paul

great follow up on your recent thread that told us all how easy traffic was to get

so easy in fact you had to start a thread asking where to get it

good shit paul

[edgeprod]

Depending on your budget, you might consider the bargain basement GTS price of 1500 hits for $9000 dollars. Only $6/click at this steal of a deal. And if you have some original ideas (what am I saying? it's Paul Markham, the KING of original thought!), he'll kindly "market test" them for you using his own sponsors and keeping the money.

Act fast, supplies are limited!

[Jakez]

Originally Posted by edgeprod

Depending on your budget, you might consider the bargain basement GTS price of 1500 hits for $9000 dollars. Only $6/click at this steal of a deal. And if you have some original ideas (what am I saying? it's Paul Markham, the KING of original thought!), he'll kindly "market test" them for you using his own sponsors and keeping the money.

Act fast, supplies are limited!

Why do you have to make it look so bad? GTS is actually the perfect place to go for what Paul needs.

[Just Alex]

Originally Posted by Jakez

Why do you have to make it look so bad? GTS is actually the perfect place to go for what Paul needs.

Hey baller, why did you removed link to your free scripts website after I asked you if it was ok to use nulled version?
What happened ?

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by Hollywood Horwitz;1hahahahaha29

Hey Paul,

I have exactly what your client is looking for, please have them contact me ( my sig is below) or LMK if I can contact them directly?

thanks!

Received your email and we can chat later.
I just need some initial details from you before I pass them on.
Then you deal direct.

[DVTimes]

Plugrush is great.

[MrCain]

Originally Posted by drysky

Getting traffic is the easiest job in porn Paul. Just do it yourself.

[edgeprod]

Originally Posted by Jakez

Why do you have to make it look so bad? GTS is actually the perfect place to go for what Paul needs.

Haha .. actually, good call! Yes, Paul, Mark from GTS can help you!

[Jakez]

Originally Posted by Just Alex

Hey baller, why did you removed link to your free scripts website after I asked you if it was ok to use nulled version?
What happened ?

Because no one buys the scripts anymore because they're out dated, so why have it in my sig any longer? Any more questions dumb faggot?