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Barefootsies · 10-24-2011, 06:03 AM

I am not a big fan of cams, however over the weekend I did some poking around at the different known (GFY advertised) cam sites out there. Out of the dozens of different sites, MFC seems to be the most popular, with a solid, diverse, selection of races, and looking women (i.e. not all Thai or Pinos as an example).

Is there anything out there better than MFC in regards to features, or offerings? Or has Leo and crew locked down the market in regards to innovations, models, studios and clients.

ilnjscb · 10-24-2011, 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies

I am not a big fan of cams, however over the weekend I did some poking around at the different known (GFY advertised) cam sites out there. Out of the dozens of different sites, MFC seems to be the most popular, with a solid, diverse, selection of races, and looking women (i.e. not all Thai or Pinos as an example).

Is there anything out there better than MFC in regards to features, or offerings? Or has Leo and crew locked down the market in regards to innovations, models, studios and clients.

Unless there is a disruptor, it looks pretty locked down. Many cam viewers imprinted on MFC, and with their lounges, status system and robust notification features, they encourage a group atmosphere. They break alot of credit card payment resistance. I don't know Leo at all, but I asked this same question a bit back, and they said he had perfected the model over years.

lazycash · 10-24-2011, 06:14 AM

I like streamate.com in regards to their layout, features and streaming quality.

Slick · 10-24-2011, 06:16 AM

I don't think there's anything better, it's a great concept, where you can just have people chip in tips to get girls to do stuff and if you don't feel like spending, you can still get a free show out of the deal. I know when I first discovered it, I spent a few bucks on tips

ArsewithClass · 10-24-2011, 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by ilnjscb

Unless there is a disruptor, it looks pretty locked down. Many cam viewers imprinted on MFC, and with their lounges, status system and robust notification features, they encourage a group atmosphere. They break alot of credit card payment resistance. I don't know Leo at all, but I asked this same question a bit back, and they said he had perfected the model over years.

Our models also think the site is simple to use & offers an easy approach with involvement to the surfer, client... with the profiles & rules.

I am happy with our models using MFC

Mickey_ · 10-24-2011, 06:30 AM

www.livejasmin.com

BIGTYMER · 10-24-2011, 06:31 AM

I think my cam sales have withered thanks to MFC. It's a race to give as much free content as possible!

When I got in adult webmasters would bitch if there was a boob shot in an fhg. Boy have we came a long way..

Barefootsies · 10-24-2011, 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by BIGTYMER

When I got in adult webmasters would bitch if there was a boob shot in an fhg. Boy have we came a long way..

That is really soooooooooo true. I remember the long ass debates back in the days of hun, FHG's and MPG2, and all that yoke. As we've seen over time,... the Hun, Manwin, MFC have had the last laugh taking over the marketplace.

Perhaps gideongallery consults for them.

Jarmusch · 10-24-2011, 06:41 AM

That's all about to change with the arrival of MyRealCamGirls.

digitalfantasies · 10-24-2011, 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Jarmusch

That's all about to change with the arrival of MyRealCamGirls.

LatinaCrazy · 10-24-2011, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Jarmusch

That's all about to change with the arrival of MyRealCamGirls.

Hay guys, even I am starting to feel sorry for the fellow that made that post...

LatinaCrazy · 10-24-2011, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by BIGTYMER

I think my cam sales have withered thanks to MFC. It's a race to give as much free content as possible!

I agree with you, the problem we have is that when a model has worked MFC for a while it is very difficult for her to cross over and be successful on another site..

While models who are successful on other sites can be successful on MFC.

MFC while is huge and has lots of ways for models to earn money there are still sites out there that convert better for the models...

This too shall pass.

porno jew · 10-24-2011, 08:34 AM

the people who bet on the free or freemium over the last decade won big time. there is a lesson in there.

Mutt · 10-24-2011, 08:39 AM

as a surfer, MFC would be the only cam site i'd ever visit. it's pure amateur, i like that girls make 50-60% of the revenue. I like girls making money, porn comes with a price for girls who do it so I like them to bank as much as they can so they don't feel they have been exploited.

Streamate is slicker and professional, big turnoff for me. I checked out Streamate the other night and saw a completely fake recorded video posing as a live model, you don't see that shit on MFC. LiveJasmin is just one big Euro webcam studio to me.

no cam site will ever have more young American chicks on it as MFC does.

I know a girl who just started camming on MFC, been on a month, not an amazing looking girl - just a typical 19 year old California chick. she's already making 5K a month and if she sticks at it and grows her fan base she'll be making 10K a month.

i should hate MFC, i do believe it sucks traffic and potential members away from solo girl sites which are how i make a living.

DVTimes · 10-24-2011, 08:48 AM

yes it looks good

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LMAO

8char

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I like cams.com (click here to promote it) and xlovecam.com (click here to promote it)

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Vendzilla · 10-24-2011, 10:02 AM

Everyone is going to have there favorite. Flirt4free is growing every month and we have many models making over $100k a year, both female and male. We had a whale last year that spent $225k.

fris · 10-24-2011, 10:30 AM

think leo has it covered, and he probably employes 80% staff less than the larger cam companies

Barefootsies · 10-24-2011, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla

Everyone is going to have there favorite. Flirt4free is growing every month and we have many models making over $100k a year, both female and male. We had a whale last year that spent $225k.

Nice to hear they nabbed that whale.

mafia_man · 10-24-2011, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jarmusch

That's all about to change with the arrival of MyRealCamGirls.

Yeah ok.

MFC is a great site, just lacks polish on the UI.

Rick Diculous · 10-24-2011, 04:37 PM

Where can I signup to promote MFC ???

HardlinkSells · 10-24-2011, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick Diculous

Where can I signup to promote MFC ???

U wish :d

Brujah · 10-24-2011, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by porno jew

the people who bet on the free or freemium over the last decade won big time. there is a lesson in there.

Yet, Manwin isn't applying the same free model to dating or cams are they?

Dubya · 10-24-2011, 05:28 PM

mfc or cam4.

kane · 10-24-2011, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by porno jew

the people who bet on the free or freemium over the last decade won big time. there is a lesson in there.

I don't see myfreecams as a freemium service, but more like a groupon kind of thing. Before if you wanted to see a hot girl impale herself with a huge dildo you had to take her private and pay $5 per minute. With MFC 1,000 guys can all tip her 20 tokens and she will do it. It is like crowd-sourcing.

Vendzilla · 10-24-2011, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by kane

I don't see myfreecams as a freemium service, but more like a groupon kind of thing. Before if you wanted to see a hot girl impale herself with a huge dildo you had to take her private and pay $5 per minute. With MFC 1,000 guys can all tip her 20 tokens and she will do it. It is like crowd-sourcing.

You need to keep up with the times, they aren't the only one that does that

go to http://flirt4free.com and click on the group chat link upper right.

porno jew · 10-24-2011, 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kane

I don't see myfreecams as a freemium service, but more like a groupon kind of thing. Before if you wanted to see a hot girl impale herself with a huge dildo you had to take her private and pay $5 per minute. With MFC 1,000 guys can all tip her 20 tokens and she will do it. It is like crowd-sourcing.

you can watch for free no? if you want more you have to pay. freemium.

there can be a crowdsource-like element but if you are the only person in the room getting her to strip for tokens where is the crowd?

porno jew · 10-24-2011, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Brujah

Yet, Manwin isn't applying the same free model to dating or cams are they?

webcams.com is a disaster so who knows what is going on there.

lazycash · 10-24-2011, 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kane

I don't see myfreecams as a freemium service, but more like a groupon kind of thing. Before if you wanted to see a hot girl impale herself with a huge dildo you had to take her private and pay $5 per minute. With MFC 1,000 guys can all tip her 20 tokens and she will do it. It is like crowd-sourcing.

Most of the big cam programs have the "group" option. Actually with MFC, most of the girls will get naked and play at some time in public, some do it after getting tips and others do it to get tips.

adultmobile · 10-24-2011, 05:50 PM

Those myfreecams threads are the only ones in gfy without affiliate signup links, this should give an idea.

Mfc is the tube-facebook of cams, it does well because it pay nothing to affiliates (well there are affiliates on invite only, but they're not as needed).
I would like to warn those who think they clone mfc and will be rich.
The mfc type of site it work only if you are the #1 with lots traffic. Is like for facebook, if you do a site same as facebook it fail because you not find friends there and so on.
There would be dozens of mfc clones doing well if it was not this way, instead there are few and not as successful. Note that mfc started in 2004 and no one cared to it until 2008, it took the time, and they was the first (well cam4.com was there for free, should give credit to it, but was no tips site, and while viewers are many, the tips are not mfc level).
One thing nearly no one seems to know, it is that secretfriends.com and directsex.com was showing for free the video of every private already in 2004 (but not the chat text, that was the private thing), at the time I was wondering if this was crazy, but it was not eventually - however they did not used this first move advantage fully it seems.

The old style cam sites can still do well and even grow, but only by paying lots for the traffic and so less income for them and the models, while mfc grows auto pilot and free due to tube-facebook biz model, which I repeat, work only for #1 who is already big, not for others.

90% of the old style cam sites... are adding free shows for tips, as separate sites (ex: stripshow.com for cams.com) or sections (too many to list them all - some do it as very cheap group shows, others simply free shows). We done it too, tubecamgirl.com , and while it is paintful expensive to start it due to adverts, then I have to say it goes auto-pilot much better then the strictly pay per view (our is chatgf.com ).
So like prerecorded content sites setup or buy tubes, the classic ppv cam sites setup a mfc-type site or section, so to cover it too, but it does not replace the whole biz.
Especially note we made it a different domain name tubecamgirl.com and it is not linked from within chatgf.com , as it is a self-cannibalizing otherwise. You don't put a tube inside a pay member area I suppose.

A question someone made: mfc will force to close everyone else... my answer it is: the classic style cam sites who are well managed will continue do to well as long as well managed, especially those around since years (we also had whales but $90k a year, despite the mfc existed.. as if a guy like a girl and she's in our site and not in mfc, he will not care of 10000 girls in mfc but only to our one, that's the cool thing of cams).
However, it is true that mfc make it 10 times harder for totally new cam sites to be launched and stay up, either classic or mfc style - I mean if there was not mfc it was still difficult to launch a classic cam site because saturation of existing classic cam sites, but in addition to that, you can't have an easy launch even an mfc-type of site since mfc is there big and famous already. Is like if you want to launch a tube and you got already pornhub xhamster and xvideos, is not as easy as you launched a tube in 2007, you may agree on that.

LatinaCrazy · 10-24-2011, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by adultmobile

One thing nearly no one seems to know, it is that secretfriends.com and directsex.com was showing for free the video of every private already in 2004 (but not the chat text, that was the private thing), at the time I was wondering if this was crazy, but it was not eventually - however they did not used this first move advantage fully it seems.

t.

Very insightful, I thought that I was the only one who remembered SF and DX... In their day they were money making machines... I remember I asked DS one-time why they did not have audio. His reply was "It takes longer to type o baby o baby than to say it"

anexsia · 10-24-2011, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Jarmusch

That's all about to change with the arrival of MyRealCamGirls.

My Real Cam Girls will be dominating the cam world very soon. It's the real deal guys, all the bros will vouch for this amazing cam site. My Real Cam Girls.

Supz · 10-24-2011, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Brujah

Yet, Manwin isn't applying the same free model to dating or cams are they?

They will just buy MFC if they want.

lazycash · 10-24-2011, 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adultmobile

One thing nearly no one seems to know, it is that secretfriends.com and directsex.com was showing for free the video of every private already in 2004 (but not the chat text, that was the private thing), at the time I was wondering if this was crazy, but it was not eventually - however they did not used this first move advantage fully it seems.

.

Hmmm, I thought most everyone knew they were just recorded feeds using live chatters. They used it as long as they could, but as surfers got more savvy and wanted audio interaction, the model didn't hold up. Makes for difficult private sessions when you're using recorded feeds.

kane · 10-24-2011, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by porno jew

you can watch for free no? if you want more you have to pay. freemium.

there can be a crowdsource-like element but if you are the only person in the room getting her to strip for tokens where is the crowd?

I see what you are saying. I guess my point was this. I use Spotify. You can use it for free, but if you want the extra features/benefits you have to pay. Freemium.

The option I don't have is to have 20 different people each pitch in 50cents per month for me to get the premium service. Sure, there are true private 1on1 shows on MFC and in those there is no crowd, but my experience with it (admittedly pretty limited) seems like most of the girls either collect tips and once they hit a number they do a public show or they do a group show.

I guess, in the end it is a little bit like all of them. It is one part freemium, one part groupon and one part crowdsource.

BIGTYMER · 10-24-2011, 08:14 PM

Don't worry guys something even better will come along one day. Good things NEVER last.

porno jew · 10-24-2011, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by BIGTYMER

Don't worry guys something even better will come along one day. Good things NEVER last.

yes the one great / terrible thing about the internet is if you are concerned with what is dominating just wait a year or two, it will be gone.

fris · 10-24-2011, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Supz

They will just buy MFC if they want.

that would be huge, note on the dating front, they already tried it and failed, with peopletraffic, they closed the program after people were being paid too much for free profile conversions.

Supz · 10-24-2011, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by fris

that would be huge, note on the dating front, they already tried it and failed, with peopletraffic, they closed the program after people were being paid too much for free profile conversions.

Not sure why they would even pay people for free profiles when they can get more free profiles per minute then anyone else. Is it possible they are having a harder time converting from free porn to dating then they are free porn to cams / paysites? Are they better off getting paid for the free profiles then actually collecting them for there own use. hmmmmm

Brujah · 10-24-2011, 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adultmobile

I would like to warn those who think they clone mfc and will be rich.
The mfc type of site it work only if you are the #1 with lots traffic. Is like for facebook, if you do a site same as facebook it fail because you not find friends there and so on.
There would be dozens of mfc clones doing well if it was not this way, instead there are few and not as successful. Note that mfc started in 2004 and no one cared to it until 2008, it took the time ...

The role of #1 has been changing for many years, and will change again. It won't always be MFC. It won't always be Facebook. Who that will be? Someone who took the risk of failing and stuck it out for years, not someone who didn't even try.

porno jew · 10-24-2011, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Supz

Not sure why they would even pay people for free profiles when they can get more free profiles per minute then anyone else. Is it possible they are having a harder time converting from free porn to dating then they are free porn to cams / paysites? Are they better off getting paid for the free profiles then actually collecting them for there own use. hmmmmm

the moment manwin took over they axed people traffic. i just assumed because it was a piece of shit filled with fake profiles and a potential liability.

Fob · 10-25-2011, 01:22 AM

what about a myrealcamgirls clone with an affiliate program?

seeme · 10-25-2011, 04:10 AM

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Originally Posted by BIGTYMER

Don't worry guys something even better will come along one day. Good things NEVER last.

Very true.

Barefootsies · 10-25-2011, 05:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIGTYMER

Don't worry guys something even better will come along one day. Good things NEVER last.

The only constant is change...

signupdamnit · 10-25-2011, 07:14 AM

The biggest advantage MFC has is the billing model. But it's always been mostly about the quality of the models. In that regard I think cams.com as well some others are still in the same league. MFC is great and definitely a big money maker for the owners but I still see areas for improvement. For instance the interface could be improved upon.

NewNick · 10-25-2011, 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Brujah

Yet, Manwin isn't applying the same free model to dating or cams are they?

Watch this space.....

fris · 10-25-2011, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by BIGTYMER

Don't worry guys something even better will come along one day. Good things NEVER last.

true, to that fact, i was making almost $12,000 every month from refering this one webmaster last year, now its down to a $1,000 a month this year.

adultmobile · 10-25-2011, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by lazycash

Hmmm, I thought most everyone knew they were just recorded feeds using live chatters. They used it as long as they could, but as surfers got more savvy and wanted audio interaction, the model didn't hold up. Makes for difficult private sessions when you're using recorded feeds.

No these was real feeds and I know as I had my studios there too, but it is true that lots of people think this is not live, even in tubecamgirl.com the most frequent question is: "if you are live wave the hand", since he did not sent tip and waving hand is stupid, the girl not do it (also there may be dozens of other requests- and she may be splitcamming in MFC etc.) then he say: "this is not live", then there's big debate with others that this is live or not live.

Barefootsies · 10-26-2011, 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by NewNick

Watch this space.....

Indeed.

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Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	as a surfer, MFC would be the only cam site i'd ever visit. it's pure amateur, i like that girls make 50-60% of the revenue. I like girls making money, porn comes with a price for girls who do it so I like them to bank as much as they can so they don't feel they have been exploited. Streamate is slicker and professional, big turnoff for me. I checked out Streamate the other night and saw a completely fake recorded video posing as a live model, you don't see that shit on MFC. LiveJasmin is just one big Euro webcam studio to me. no cam site will ever have more young American chicks on it as MFC does. I know a girl who just started camming on MFC, been on a month, not an amazing looking girl - just a typical 19 year old California chick. she's already making 5K a month and if she sticks at it and grows her fan base she'll be making 10K a month. i should hate MFC, i do believe it sucks traffic and potential members away from solo girl sites which are how i make a living. __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

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10-24-2011, 06:03 AM	#1
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10-24-2011, 06:31 AM	#7
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10-24-2011, 05:50 PM	#31
adultmobile No, I am not banned Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: ChatGF.com Posts: 5,345	Those myfreecams threads are the only ones in gfy without affiliate signup links, this should give an idea. Mfc is the tube-facebook of cams, it does well because it pay nothing to affiliates (well there are affiliates on invite only, but they're not as needed). I would like to warn those who think they clone mfc and will be rich. The mfc type of site it work only if you are the #1 with lots traffic. Is like for facebook, if you do a site same as facebook it fail because you not find friends there and so on. There would be dozens of mfc clones doing well if it was not this way, instead there are few and not as successful. Note that mfc started in 2004 and no one cared to it until 2008, it took the time, and they was the first (well cam4.com was there for free, should give credit to it, but was no tips site, and while viewers are many, the tips are not mfc level). One thing nearly no one seems to know, it is that secretfriends.com and directsex.com was showing for free the video of every private already in 2004 (but not the chat text, that was the private thing), at the time I was wondering if this was crazy, but it was not eventually - however they did not used this first move advantage fully it seems. The old style cam sites can still do well and even grow, but only by paying lots for the traffic and so less income for them and the models, while mfc grows auto pilot and free due to tube-facebook biz model, which I repeat, work only for #1 who is already big, not for others. 90% of the old style cam sites... are adding free shows for tips, as separate sites (ex: stripshow.com for cams.com) or sections (too many to list them all - some do it as very cheap group shows, others simply free shows). We done it too, tubecamgirl.com , and while it is paintful expensive to start it due to adverts, then I have to say it goes auto-pilot much better then the strictly pay per view (our is chatgf.com ). So like prerecorded content sites setup or buy tubes, the classic ppv cam sites setup a mfc-type site or section, so to cover it too, but it does not replace the whole biz. Especially note we made it a different domain name tubecamgirl.com and it is not linked from within chatgf.com , as it is a self-cannibalizing otherwise. You don't put a tube inside a pay member area I suppose. A question someone made: mfc will force to close everyone else... my answer it is: the classic style cam sites who are well managed will continue do to well as long as well managed, especially those around since years (we also had whales but $90k a year, despite the mfc existed.. as if a guy like a girl and she's in our site and not in mfc, he will not care of 10000 girls in mfc but only to our one, that's the cool thing of cams). However, it is true that mfc make it 10 times harder for totally new cam sites to be launched and stay up, either classic or mfc style - I mean if there was not mfc it was still difficult to launch a classic cam site because saturation of existing classic cam sites, but in addition to that, you can't have an easy launch even an mfc-type of site since mfc is there big and famous already. Is like if you want to launch a tube and you got already pornhub xhamster and xvideos, is not as easy as you launched a tube in 2007, you may agree on that. __________________ TubeCamGirl.com

10-24-2011, 08:14 PM	#37
BIGTYMER Junior Achiever Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Walled Garden Posts: 17,066	Don't worry guys something even better will come along one day. Good things NEVER last.

10-25-2011, 01:22 AM	#43
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10-25-2011, 07:14 AM	#46
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