How many joins a day combined does the adult net do? - Page 2 - GoFuckYourself.com

Kimmykim · 02-07-2003, 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by stocktrader23

In the article I read that I mentioned above they said the average retainment overall was 2 months per member. That is how they justified paying $50 per signup. You have to take into account they have been in business for years. I'm sure their average is great with the members that never leave. But if they weren't retaining 2 months they couldn't pay their affiliates and make a profit.

Well then the guy that wrote the article you read was smoking crack. NO ONE has a retention rate that would average ALL their members at 2 months stay. Most sites are lucky to get 1/3 or so of their members to make it past the trial and onto a monthly recur.

Most likely you have misunderstood what the article said -- someone saying their average retention is 2 months would generally indicate the surfers that did convert from trial to full stayed that long, NOT directly mean that all their trials converted and stayed two months. Perhaps that sounds ambiguous in its' wording but nonetheless it's the only way to take such a statement to have meaning.

And yes, they could still pay their affiliates and their bills on the numbers I am laying out without stealing from anyone provided their payouts weren't ridiculously high.

drunkdollars · 02-11-2003, 01:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kimmykim

Well then the guy that wrote the article you read was smoking crack. NO ONE has a retention rate that would average ALL their members at 2 months stay. Most sites are lucky to get 1/3 or so of their members to make it past the trial and onto a monthly recur.

Most likely you have misunderstood what the article said -- someone saying their average retention is 2 months would generally indicate the surfers that did convert from trial to full stayed that long, NOT directly mean that all their trials converted and stayed two months. Perhaps that sounds ambiguous in its' wording but nonetheless it's the only way to take such a statement to have meaning.

And yes, they could still pay their affiliates and their bills on the numbers I am laying out without stealing from anyone provided their payouts weren't ridiculously high.

Anymore pics ? That last one was hot !!!

OneHungLo · 02-11-2003, 01:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by stocktrader23

In the article I read that I mentioned above they said the average retainment overall was 2 months per member. That is how they justified paying $50 per signup. You have to take into account they have been in business for years. I'm sure their average is great with the members that never leave. But if they weren't retaining 2 months they couldn't pay their affiliates and make a profit.

xxxjay · 02-11-2003, 02:05 AM

here is one rule i have found about the adult industry (vet since 97)- take whatever the number is and divide it by at least 10 and you will find the true figure

there is a lot of dick waving going on

slavdogg · 02-13-2003, 01:55 AM

i'd say Kimmy's #s are pretty much right on the money
i couldnt have said it better myself.

as far as the total #, i dont want to guess but i'd say its pretty easy to figure out knowing the top or as in this case the top three are known. Colin and Serge both know or have the name of the formula for doing this.

You can also use the same formula to find out the total # of sign ups a program does by only knowing the what their top advertiser gets. I could do this with ARS and few others, but havent bothered to try.

someone mentioned Intergal doing 5k a day. Few months back in their email to affiliates they said how many they do and it might have been 5k a day, i cant remember. But that # is long gone and Intergal is not the same intergal it once was.

in my view, these guys are top 4 (in no order)
ARS, topbucks, oxcash and nastydollars

RaGe · 02-13-2003, 02:28 AM

Very good question and a nice topic. I've often wondered this myself.. my own personal guess is around 50,000 as well.

Brings me to another thought.. which one program is doing the most joins per day right now?

Mr.Fiction · 02-13-2003, 02:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by slavdogg
i'd say Kimmy's #s are pretty much right on the money
i couldnt have said it better myself.

as far as the total #, i dont want to guess but i'd say its pretty easy to figure out knowing the top or as in this case the top three are known. Colin and Serge both know or have the name of the formula for doing this.

You can also use the same formula to find out the total # of sign ups a program does by only knowing the what their top advertiser gets. I could do this with ARS and few others, but havent bothered to try.

someone mentioned Intergal doing 5k a day. Few months back in their email to affiliates they said how many they do and it might have been 5k a day, i cant remember. But that # is long gone and Intergal is not the same intergal it once was.

in my view, these guys are top 4 (in no order)
ARS, topbucks, oxcash and nastydollars

You think Ox is till up there?

slavdogg · 02-13-2003, 02:33 AM

Lets make this more interesting

How many people sell 100 joins a day, 200 joins, 300, 500 consistantly ?? Free or trial credit card sign ups, not 4free stuff or AVS

thats joins not joints

slavdogg · 02-13-2003, 02:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr.Fiction

You think Ox is till up there?

OH YEAH !!

Fletch XXX · 02-13-2003, 02:34 AM

joints.

heh.

J-$tyle$ · 02-13-2003, 03:04 AM

Having been in 2 different high profile UPPER MANAGEMENT positions with companies that I KNOW generated 4 - 5000+ joins per day, I can tell you that it ain't so today.

1 company is basically out of business, and its' owner has fled the country

The other is still around, but doesnt have nearly the position in this industry it once did.

Times have changed, and there's NO DOUBT about that!

The thing is - YOU CAN'T discount or ignore the AVS's - the top 2 are NOT Bullshit 2 bit players - and there are a few other players of noteworthy size ... AND the live 1 on 1 video conferencing companies have TONS of repeat buyers - This I KNOW as well!

Also, take into consideration the abundance of mail that's sent perpetually around the clock, and the fact IS that there are TONS of surfers that CONSTANTLY buy memberships every month.

I'd say KimmyKim's math ain't too far off!

IMHO!

slavdogg · 02-13-2003, 03:18 AM

J-$tyle$-J

Hows it going bro ??
Few more reality sites from you and you'll be doing 4-5k a day easily

Nice site, good luck with it !

J-$tyle$ · 02-13-2003, 04:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by slavdogg
J-$tyle$-J

Hows it going bro ??
Few more reality sites from you and you'll be doing 4-5k a day easily

Nice site, good luck with it !

Going AWESOME, dude! Thanks for the kind words - Be the Mask has just been launched in the past week, and the results are pretty damn good

I just got back from a CRAZY trip with KB and a bunch of other people from Jamaica, so life is GOOD!!!

The first batch of the Negril Net Bash 2003 pics are at the very bottom of http://www.videostorecash.com

Scroll down & enjoy!

More to come!

:o)

BTW - I'll probably be doing a couple thousabd sales per day to The vidoe Store Cash program A LOT QUICKER! This shit is selling like HOT CAKES ... or better yet - this shit is selling like GANJA to tourists in Jamaica! Columbia House of PORN, baby - the buisness model ROCKS!

LOL

Give me a shout, and let's catch up soon! jons AT jonsmail.com

02-11-2003, 02:05 AM	#54
xxxjay Tube groupie. Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: LoScandalous, CA Posts: 13,482	here is one rule i have found about the adult industry (vet since 97)- take whatever the number is and divide it by at least 10 and you will find the true figure there is a lot of dick waving going on __________________ http://donttellmehowtoruinmylife.com/ - http://www.jmdigitalmarketing.com/my...s-and-reviews/ - http://www.wouldyouhitit.org - http://shinyobjectreviews.com/

02-13-2003, 02:28 AM	#56
RaGe Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,158	Very good question and a nice topic. I've often wondered this myself.. my own personal guess is around 50,000 as well. Brings me to another thought.. which one program is doing the most joins per day right now? __________________ Get your guaranteed gallery listings on bunnyteens.com! Over 650k hits daily. One of the original thumb TGPs! Click here.

02-13-2003, 02:34 AM	#60
Fletch XXX GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: that 504 Posts: 60,840	joints. heh. __________________ Want an Android App for your tube, membership, or free site? Need banners or promo material? Hit us up (ICQ Fletch: 148841377) or email me fletchxxx at gmail.com - recent work - About me

02-13-2003, 03:04 AM	#61
J-$tyle$ Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mostly in my own world...come visit! Posts: 51	Having been in 2 different high profile UPPER MANAGEMENT positions with companies that I KNOW generated 4 - 5000+ joins per day, I can tell you that it ain't so today. 1 company is basically out of business, and its' owner has fled the country The other is still around, but doesnt have nearly the position in this industry it once did. Times have changed, and there's NO DOUBT about that! The thing is - YOU CAN'T discount or ignore the AVS's - the top 2 are NOT Bullshit 2 bit players - and there are a few other players of noteworthy size ... AND the live 1 on 1 video conferencing companies have TONS of repeat buyers - This I KNOW as well! Also, take into consideration the abundance of mail that's sent perpetually around the clock, and the fact IS that there are TONS of surfers that CONSTANTLY buy memberships every month. I'd say KimmyKim's math ain't too far off! IMHO! __________________ <br><br><br><center> FREE, damn it! SURFERS LOVE the word FREE ;o) The Columbia House of PORN Give Away 12 free XXX Videos or DVD's ... and make a TON of $$$ ! ! ! </center>

02-13-2003, 01:55 AM	#55
slavdogg Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 3,570	i'd say Kimmy's #s are pretty much right on the money i couldnt have said it better myself. as far as the total #, i dont want to guess but i'd say its pretty easy to figure out knowing the top or as in this case the top three are known. Colin and Serge both know or have the name of the formula for doing this. You can also use the same formula to find out the total # of sign ups a program does by only knowing the what their top advertiser gets. I could do this with ARS and few others, but havent bothered to try. someone mentioned Intergal doing 5k a day. Few months back in their email to affiliates they said how many they do and it might have been 5k a day, i cant remember. But that # is long gone and Intergal is not the same intergal it once was. in my view, these guys are top 4 (in no order) ARS, topbucks, oxcash and nastydollars

02-13-2003, 02:33 AM	#58
slavdogg Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 3,570	Lets make this more interesting How many people sell 100 joins a day, 200 joins, 300, 500 consistantly ?? Free or trial credit card sign ups, not 4free stuff or AVS thats joins not joints

02-13-2003, 03:18 AM	#62
slavdogg Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 3,570	J-$tyle$-J Hows it going bro ?? Few more reality sites from you and you'll be doing 4-5k a day easily Nice site, good luck with it !