military action against Iran

[DVTimes]

Looks like a new war soon:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ddle-East.html

[bronco67]

Nothing to see here really...are you that starved for attention?

[Dcat]

Yes, and seems Netanyahu is now seeking cabinet support for strike on Iran.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...e-on-Iran.html

[HighlyIntoxicated]

lets hope israel is hit first.

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by HighlyIntoxicated

lets hope israel is hit first.

well the one thing we have learned about the Arabs and the middle east lately is this: they all talk long shit until they are getting pulled from a sewer or some other shitty hole in the ground

[HighlyIntoxicated]

Originally Posted by bm bradley

well the one thing we have learned about the Arabs and the middle east lately is this: they all talk long shit until they are getting pulled from a sewer or some other shitty hole in the ground

From what I've read, Iran has a much more capable military then the previously defeated middle eastern countries.

[Caligari]

yep, could be a long ass winter...

nuclear winter that is.

.

[WebairGerard]

hope there are no new wars starting anytime soon. the way the middle east is going if we just give it time the local population might rise up in Iran as well.

[Barry-xlovecam]

Post card from Iran ...

Iran threatens ...
http://www.cnn.com/2011/11/02/world/meast/iran-israel/

"The United States is fully aware that a military attack by the Zionist regime on Iran will not only cause tremendous damage to that regime, but it will also inflict serious damage to the U.S.," said Gen. Hassan Firouzabadi, commander of the joint chiefs of staff, according to the semi-official Fars News Agency.

"We, as the military, take every threat, however distant and improbable, as very real, and are fully prepared to use suitable equipment to punish any kind of mistake," he added, according to a CNN translation of his remarks.

Another semi-official Iranian news agency, ISNA, published a story in English quoting Firouzabadi as saying, "The U.S. officials know that Zionist regime's military attack against Iran will inflict heavy damages to the U.S. seriously as well as Zionist regime."

Gonna take out the Devil America too ...

[Lucy - CSC]

Oh look yet another war for Israel, Oil and the Central Banking system.

[JenniDahling]

Originally Posted by WebairGerard

hope there are no new wars starting anytime soon. the way the middle east is going if we just give it time the local population might rise up in Iran as well.

Unfortunately they tried during the last election, but Ahmadinejad still has pimp hand there and the rioting left casualties and injuries but nothing else.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31238321...ins-iran-vote/

[Fletch XXX]

i really wish america didnt get involved in all this middle east shit, let them kill each other but lets stay out of it and bring our troops home. they both read a book that tells them to kill each other we never gonna stop them.

[Lucy - CSC]

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

i really wish america didnt get involved in all this middle east shit, let them kill each other but lets stay out of it and bring our troops home. they both read a book that tells them to kill each other we never gonna stop them.

Your government is bought and paid for. The uprising in the middle east are also paid for by your government to justify to you the invasion as peace keepers when in reality it is oil theft.

[BIGTYMER]

Glad most of my money is in defense stocks.

[Shotsie]

Originally Posted by Lucy - CSC

Your government is bought and paid for. The uprising in the middle east are also paid for by your government to justify to you the invasion as peace keepers when in reality it is oil theft.

Are you trying to say that the uprisings in Tunisia, Egypt, Libya, Syria, Yemen and Bahrain were ALL orchestrated by the government of The United States?

[96ukssob]

If Iran attacks US... Iran 1 - US 0

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by Caligari

yep, could be a long ass winter...

nuclear winter that is.

.

we'll all be dead it takes at least 100 years. before it would clear up

[blackmonsters]

Originally Posted by WebairGerard

hope there are no new wars starting anytime soon. the way the middle east is going if we just give it time the local population might rise up in Iran as well.

The local population rising up is how they got Ahmadinejad into office.

[DaddyHalbucks]

Let's just get it over with. Pinning Iran to the ground is going to take alot of muscle though.

[VikingMan]

LOL @ a bunch of indoctrinated Americans giving their opinions of middle east politics based on news reports from CBS, CNN, FOX News, etc. You might as well give your opinions on the tooth fairy.

[femdomdestiny]

Originally Posted by Shotsie

Are you trying to say that the uprisings in Tunisia, Egypt, Libya, Syria, Yemen and Bahrain were ALL orchestrated by the government of The United States?

On what planet do you live? IN some countries it is even not a secret anymore.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=lpXbA6yZY-8

[Sin_Vraal]

Originally Posted by HighlyIntoxicated

From what I've read, Iran has a much more capable military then the previously defeated middle eastern countries.

Unfortunately, they could far more capable than iraq, and it wouldnt matter one bit.

Unless they can somehow prevent the USA from gaining total air superiority (which I don't see how they can) then the US wont even have to land troops. Its cheap and effective drone strikes and tomahawk missiles for the next year till they are dead.

you wouldn't even have to roll in, just destroy the roads and infrastructure and watch them starve to death.

I'm guessing them trying to detonate a nuclear weapon on US soil (via terrorist means) would result in the entire country being turned to green glass on account of the US feeling the use of nuclear weapons is now warranted.

No, I dont think their military is even semi relevant. because in 2-3 months they'd be riding horses anyway.

If there is one thing we do right in the USA, its building weapons to keep 3rd world countries in the 3rd world.

And no, this wouldnt be another soviet - iran style war, because unlike troops, Drones dont get tired or demoralized. They are run 24/7 by teams of nerds who go home at night to be replaced by someone else waiting to press the DIE DIE DIE button.

As bad as it sounds. I really wouldnt be against us killing an bombing if the general population got its share of the spoils, and the government called it the Imperialism that it really is. I'm mainly against it because our government sends our citizens to die for corporate profit and doesnt even give the troops a slice of the action.

[moeloubani]

Originally Posted by Sin_Vraal

Unfortunately, they could far more capable than iraq, and it wouldnt matter one bit.

Unless they can somehow prevent the USA from gaining total air superiority (which I don't see how they can) then the US wont even have to land troops. Its cheap and effective drone strikes and tomahawk missiles for the next year till they are dead.

you wouldn't even have to roll in, just destroy the roads and infrastructure and watch them starve to death.

I'm guessing them trying to detonate a nuclear weapon on US soil (via terrorist means) would result in the entire country being turned to green glass on account of the US feeling the use of nuclear weapons is now warranted.

No, I dont think their military is even semi relevant. because in 2-3 months they'd be riding horses anyway.

If there is one thing we do right in the USA, its building weapons to keep 3rd world countries in the 3rd world.

And no, this wouldnt be another soviet - iran style war, because unlike troops, Drones dont get tired or demoralized. They are run 24/7 by teams of nerds who go home at night to be replaced by someone else waiting to press the DIE DIE DIE button.

As bad as it sounds. I really wouldnt be against us killing an bombing if the general population got its share of the spoils, and the government called it the Imperialism that it really is. I'm mainly against it because our government sends our citizens to die for corporate profit and doesnt even give the troops a slice of the action.

Just like they have been winning against the Taliban in Afghanistan, right?

Don't underestimate a population resisting a foreign occupation. The Taliban had way less weaponry than Iran could even dream of and is still fighting the US with all their airplanes and drones and all of that. It's funny how the idea that Iran would strike the US first is absurd and all these plans are for a first strike on Iran, but that's the reason the US is giving for striking Iran first, that Iran might one day somehow put the US in danger.

[Theo]

not again..

[Shotsie]

Originally Posted by femdomdestiny

On what planet do you live? IN some countries it is even not a secret anymore.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=lpXbA6yZY-8

I'm sorry, but i'm going to need to see something a little more credible than youtube conspiracy videos to sway my opinion. Next you'll be trying to tell us that there's no such thing as Salafi Mujahideen such as Al-Qaeda, Taliban, Muslim Brotherhood, Hamas, Hezbollah, Al Shabaab, Lashkar-e-Taiba, Jaish-e-Mohammed, Jammu and Kashmir Liberation Front, Harkat-ul-Mujahideen, Hizbul Mujahideen, Jamaat-ul-Mujahideen, The Abu Sayyaf Group, and the 20 or 30 other terrorist groups that I missed.


You middle eastern sympathizers are just as annoying as the AIPAC funded American Israel-firsters. You won't mention that the Sunni Arab states have been the most vehement in urging a U.S. military strike on Iranian nuclear facilities, as the wikileaks cables have shown: http://www.reuters.com/article/2010/...6AS02B20101129 You won't mention the fact that the Iranians are completely surrounded by an overwhelmingly more numerous Sunni world that hates Shi'ites far more than it hates Westerners. You won't mention the fact that Egypt's Coptic Christian population is having their churches burned and being routinely killed.


The fact is that Islam is a militant religion, and these Mujahideen groups all seek the same thing: strict implementation of Sharia law in a restored Islamic Caliphate. If you do not think that Sharia law is totalitarian, then you should Google what life is like in Somalia under Al- Shabaab and what life was like in Afghanistan under the Taliban and what life was like in Iraq in areas controlled by al-Qaeda in Iraq. Sharia ranks among the most inhumane, barbaric and totalitarian legal codes ever devised by human beings. It governs every aspect (even the minutest aspects) of a person's life. Osama bin Laden once said that the Taliban form of government in Afghanistan was "the only truly Islamic government," implying that it should be replicated everywhere else.

[femdomdestiny]

And you will try to talk to me about muslim extremism and I live in country where USA armed and supported same those muslims to take 1/3 of my country, demolish churches and clean non Muslim residents? (hell yes, it happened 2 times in different parts in 10 years) I am not supporter of any middle eastern nation and there is no reason for that. It is their and absolutely their thing what they will do in their own country and how they will choose to live.

You tube video is not a montage made from stupid photos and music, it narrated directly by person who did it and openly did in my country for years (hanged on TV for so many years),and all of his collaborators are now rich people (they even got small island on Maldives!). If that is not enough for you , well....ok,but that's is exactly why USA must keep hundreds of military bases worldwide and embassies in trenches with barbwire. (ignorance and arrogance).

https://youtube.com/watch?v=DJrNe...eature=related

[Sin_Vraal]

Originally Posted by moeloubani

Just like they have been winning against the Taliban in Afghanistan, right?

Don't underestimate a population resisting a foreign occupation. The Taliban had way less weaponry than Iran could even dream of and is still fighting the US with all their airplanes and drones and all of that. It's funny how the idea that Iran would strike the US first is absurd and all these plans are for a first strike on Iran, but that's the reason the US is giving for striking Iran first, that Iran might one day somehow put the US in danger.

Chasing a bunch of peasants around in the mountains in my mind is a waste of time. The group which was (supposedly) responsible for WTC bombings is more or less dismantled.

Iran on the other hand is an actual country. with Cities, an economy and some sort of global reach. If they as a country want to hide in the mountains from drones for the next decade, then I would consider that a reasonable victory.

I assure you if Bin laden didnt want to stick it out in the mountains, the city folk and towns folk in Iran wont want to either

PS: US doesnt like to occupy shit. that would show us for the imperialists we really are.

[Shotsie]

Originally Posted by femdomdestiny

And you will try to talk to me about muslim extremism and I live in country where USA armed and supported same those muslims to take 1/3 of my country, demolish churches and clean non Muslim residents? (hell yes, it happened 2 times in different parts in 10 years) I am not supporter of any middle eastern nation and there is no reason for that. It is their and absolutely their thing what they will do in their own country and how they will choose to live.

You tube video is not a montage made from stupid photos and music, it narrated directly by person who did it and openly did in my country for years (hanged on TV for so many years),and all of his collaborators are now rich people (they even got small island on Maldives!). If that is not enough for you , well....ok,but that's is exactly why USA must keep hundreds of military bases worldwide and embassies in trenches with barbwire. (ignorance and arrogance).

https://youtube.com/watch?v=DJrNe...eature=related

From what I understand NATO supported the secession of Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia and Herzegovina and Macedonia from Yugoslavia, which pissed of Slobodan Milosevic and the Serbs who dominated the government and the political process. I was also under the impression that it was the Serbs who carried out the ethnic cleansing and genocide in that area, and that's why NATO stepped in. I'll admit I don't know much about the Balkan wars though.

[halfpint]

Fucking great two broke ass countrys have the money to start yet another war

[femdomdestiny]

Originally Posted by Shotsie

From what I understand NATO supported the secession of Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia and Herzegovina and Macedonia from Yugoslavia, which pissed of Slobodan Milosevic and the Serbs who dominated the government and the political process. I was also under the impression that it was the Serbs who carried out the ethnic cleansing and genocide in that area, and that's why NATO stepped in. I'll admit I don't know much about the Balkan wars though.

thank you for being honest. Well, it wasn't like that at all in a same way as there were no WMD in iraq and bullshit like that. If you really want to understand what happened, here it is one relatively new documentary (there are dozen available on same subject) where you will find in one place see how Musllims were armed by US in Tuzla during ceasefire and peace talks and how germany with US help and encouraged republics above to start war (giving them weapons at first place) .If you don't want to spend your time on things from history, it's fine and understandable but if you find time, take a look at this and you will see that those are serious things and it was nevers so simple as official explanation : http://www.movie2k.to/The-Weight-of-...ie-675439.html

[sambucas]

Originally Posted by Lucy - CSC

Your government is bought and paid for. The uprising in the middle east are also paid for by your government to justify to you the invasion as peace keepers when in reality it is oil theft.

You are right about most things however I don't think it's about Oil. I think that the people who hi-jacked America simply select countries that have oil for attack so American taxpayers will think that they will at least have something out of this. But in reality it's much more simple. It's simply about creating the demand to buy ridiculously overpriced military equipment from military industrial complex.

USA is the country that is run by bomb salesmen so it will never stop bombimbing.

[blazin]

If Iran has nukes... then who can blame them... when the west and Israel want to bomb them.

[Lucy - CSC]

Originally Posted by sambucas

You are right about most things however I don't think it's about Oil. I think that the people who hi-jacked America simply select countries that have oil for attack so American taxpayers will think that they will at least have something out of this. But in reality it's much more simple. It's simply about creating the demand to buy ridiculously overpriced military equipment from military industrial complex.

USA is the country that is run by bomb salesmen so it will never stop bombimbing.

Get real. The people who have hijacked America are Zionists and Neo-Cons.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolfowitz_Doctrine

They are following this plan.

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by Sin_Vraal

Unfortunately, they could far more capable than iraq, and it wouldnt matter one bit.

Unless they can somehow prevent the USA from gaining total air superiority (which I don't see how they can) then the US wont even have to land troops. Its cheap and effective drone strikes and tomahawk missiles for the next year till they are dead.

really all depoends on what russia and china decide

I'm guessing them trying to detonate a nuclear weapon on US soil (via terrorist means) would result in the entire country being turned to green glass on account of the US feeling the use of nuclear weapons is now warranted.

nice to dream about that but will never happen... America has too many civil liberties to ever retaliate against a nuke attack, it would violate their rights

As bad as it sounds. I really wouldnt be against us killing an bombing if the general population got its share of the spoils, and the government called it the Imperialism that it really is. I'm mainly against it because our government sends our citizens to die for corporate profit and doesnt even give the troops a slice of the action.

bring back looting?

[scottybuzz]

Originally Posted by Lucy - CSC

Get real. The people who have hijacked America are Zionists and Neo-Cons.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolfowitz_Doctrine

They are following this plan.

yes congratulations retard, you have cracked the big wide plan open.

[iwantchixx]

Originally Posted by bronco67

Nothing to see here really...are you that starved for attention?

That's a pretty idiotic thing to say.

Do you even understand the ramification of an Israeli/Iranian war?

[seeandsee]

that would be nuclear war then, Israel and Iran would be use their weapons and shit will start

[sambucas]

Originally Posted by Lucy - CSC

Get real. The people who have hijacked America are Zionists and Neo-Cons.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolfowitz_Doctrine

They are following this plan.

This link actually supports what I said, you see oil is the last on the list. I think that the Wolfowitz Doctrine is the concequence of this polocy of creating the demand for military hardware not vice versa. It is more of a political sharade that attempts to mascarade the endless invasions into small countries incapable of defending themselves as a political doctrine. It's just a big scam aimed at US taxpayer's dollar.

I don't really know who they are Zionists or neo-cons, I know that America has been hi-jacked.

[Sin_Vraal]

Originally Posted by bm bradley

really all depoends on what russia and china decide

They will decide the same thing that they decided with libya... to sit down and dont piss off the devil. China might be a economic powerhouse right now, and might have a vast army, but we are still the Angels of death.

Originally Posted by bm bradley

nice to dream about that but will never happen... America has too many civil liberties to ever retaliate against a nuke attack, it would violate their rights

Possibly, but I would note that we dont even have problems using regular bombs at all. I have a feeling your wrong...Lets agree to disagree and hope it never comes to nukes.

Originally Posted by bm bradley

bring back looting?

The US government already loots. I am fine with this. So long as they divide the spoils amongst the people that they 'Govern'. I am proposing equitable looting rights... not them giving to a handful of people.

[moeloubani]

Originally Posted by Shotsie

I'm sorry, but i'm going to need to see something a little more credible than youtube conspiracy videos to sway my opinion. Next you'll be trying to tell us that there's no such thing as Salafi Mujahideen such as Al-Qaeda, Taliban, Muslim Brotherhood, Hamas, Hezbollah, Al Shabaab, Lashkar-e-Taiba, Jaish-e-Mohammed, Jammu and Kashmir Liberation Front, Harkat-ul-Mujahideen, Hizbul Mujahideen, Jamaat-ul-Mujahideen, The Abu Sayyaf Group, and the 20 or 30 other terrorist groups that I missed.


You middle eastern sympathizers are just as annoying as the AIPAC funded American Israel-firsters. You won't mention that the Sunni Arab states have been the most vehement in urging a U.S. military strike on Iranian nuclear facilities, as the wikileaks cables have shown: http://www.reuters.com/article/2010/...6AS02B20101129 You won't mention the fact that the Iranians are completely surrounded by an overwhelmingly more numerous Sunni world that hates Shi'ites far more than it hates Westerners. You won't mention the fact that Egypt's Coptic Christian population is having their churches burned and being routinely killed.


The fact is that Islam is a militant religion, and these Mujahideen groups all seek the same thing: strict implementation of Sharia law in a restored Islamic Caliphate. If you do not think that Sharia law is totalitarian, then you should Google what life is like in Somalia under Al- Shabaab and what life was like in Afghanistan under the Taliban and what life was like in Iraq in areas controlled by al-Qaeda in Iraq. Sharia ranks among the most inhumane, barbaric and totalitarian legal codes ever devised by human beings. It governs every aspect (even the minutest aspects) of a person's life. Osama bin Laden once said that the Taliban form of government in Afghanistan was "the only truly Islamic government," implying that it should be replicated everywhere else.

LOL There was no Al Qaeda in Iraq until the US invaded Iraq. You talk about Islam being a militant religion but can you show me when Muslims invaded another country halfway across the world? Now show me a Muslim country that has invaded two other countries by mass murdering the population. Doesn't happen. Bush himself said that the Iraq war was started because God told him to. Don't go blaming the bloodshed in the world on Islam, Islam did nothing until the Americans decided to go in and start bombing their countries.

Where do you get the information you have about Shiites and Sunnis hating each other? Before the Iraq and Afghanistan invasion the distinction was rarely, if ever, made between the two groups. The whole Sunni vs Shiites thing was manufactured by the US to help them with their invasion of Iraq.

So what I really meant to say is instead of making things up and pretending like you know something, why not try to actually educate yourself and learn a few things. That way people like me don't just come along and humiliate you and crush your ridiculous argument like a half finished cigarette on a windy day.

[moeloubani]

Originally Posted by Sin_Vraal

Chasing a bunch of peasants around in the mountains in my mind is a waste of time. The group which was (supposedly) responsible for WTC bombings is more or less dismantled.

Iran on the other hand is an actual country. with Cities, an economy and some sort of global reach. If they as a country want to hide in the mountains from drones for the next decade, then I would consider that a reasonable victory.

I assure you if Bin laden didnt want to stick it out in the mountains, the city folk and towns folk in Iran wont want to either

PS: US doesnt like to occupy shit. that would show us for the imperialists we really are.

So are you saying if China invaded the US you would just give up? If Iranians won't hide and fight back then Americans sure as hell won't lift a finger.

[moeloubani]

Originally Posted by bm bradley

really all depoends on what russia and china decide



nice to dream about that but will never happen... America has too many civil liberties to ever retaliate against a nuke attack, it would violate their rights



bring back looting?

I love how you paint a picture of the US where the US is too good of a nation to retaliate with nuclear weapons.

But in reality the only country to ever be fucked up and evil enough to EVER use a nuclear weapon against innocent people is the United States of America. You think you are at the top on the moral chart but really, you're at the very fucking bottom.

Don't ever forget that the biggest terrorist attack in all of human history was carried out by the United States of America against Japan. There has been no bigger terrorist attack or for that matter anything that even compares to the carnage and barbarianism the US showed with those bombs.

[DVTimes]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ar-plants.html

[femdomdestiny]

[Shotsie]

Originally Posted by moeloubani

LOL There was no Al Qaeda in Iraq until the US invaded Iraq. You talk about Islam being a militant religion but can you show me when Muslims invaded another country halfway across the world? Now show me a Muslim country that has invaded two other countries by mass murdering the population. Doesn't happen. Bush himself said that the Iraq war was started because God told him to. Don't go blaming the bloodshed in the world on Islam, Islam did nothing until the Americans decided to go in and start bombing their countries.

Where do you get the information you have about Shiites and Sunnis hating each other? Before the Iraq and Afghanistan invasion the distinction was rarely, if ever, made between the two groups. The whole Sunni vs Shiites thing was manufactured by the US to help them with their invasion of Iraq.

So what I really meant to say is instead of making things up and pretending like you know something, why not try to actually educate yourself and learn a few things. That way people like me don't just come along and humiliate you and crush your ridiculous argument like a half finished cigarette on a windy day.

That's one of the reasons they hate us, they have a superiority/inferiority complex. The fundamental problem for the West is not Islamic fundamentalism. It is Islam, a different civilization whose people are convinced of the superiority of their culture and are obsessed with the inferiority of their power. those people regard themselves as morally, culturally, religiously superior to Westerners, whose civilization they regard as decadent, corrupt and blasphemous. They are deeply affected when they see how weak they are economically and military compared to the West, especially considering Islam's history of conquering, subjugating and humiliating non-Muslims. They resent and despise the West for its power relative to theirs.


Islam is an aggressive, expansionist and imperialistic political ideology. It was spread throughout the Middle East, North Africa and Central and Southern Asia by military conquest. Under Sharia, non-Muslims living in territory conquered by Islam have three options. The first option is to convert to Islam. Those who refuse to convert are to accept an inferior status as second-class citizens (or "Dhimmis") and pay a special (and often financially devastating) tax known in Arabic as the "Jizya." Non-Muslims who refuse either of the first two options are to be killed.



Dont take my word for it though, just read the Qu'ran:

?It is the same whether or not you forewarn them [the unbelievers], they will have no faith? (2:6). ?God will mock them and keep them long in sin, blundering blindly along? (2:15). A fire ?whose fuel is men and stones? awaits them (2:24). They will be ?rewarded with disgrace in this world and with grievous punishment on the Day of Resurrection? (2:85). ?God?s curse be upon the infidels!? (2:89). ?They have incurred God?s most inexorable wrath. An ignominious punishment awaits [them]? (2:90). ?God is the enemy of the unbelievers? (2:98). ?The unbelievers among the People of the Book [Christians and Jews], and the pagans, resent that any blessing should have been sent down to you from your Lord? (2:105). ?They shall be held up to shame in this world and sternly punished in the hereafter? (2:114). ?Those to whom We [God] have given the Book, and who read it as it ought to be read, truly believe in it; those that deny it shall assuredly be lost? (2:122). ?[We] shall let them live awhile, and then shall drag them to the scourge of the Fire. Evil shall be their fate? (2:126). ?The East and the West are God?s. He guides whom He will to a straight path? (2:142). ?Do not say that those slain in the cause of God are dead. They are alive, but you are not aware of them? (2:154). ?But the infidels who die unbelievers shall incur the curse of God, the angels, and all men. Under it they shall remain for ever; their punishment shall not be lightened, nor shall they be reprieved? (2:162). ?They shall sigh with remorse, but shall never come out of the Fire? (2:168). ?The unbelievers are like beasts which, call out to them as one may, can hear nothing but a shout and a cry. Deaf, dumb, and blind, they understand nothing? (2:172). ?Theirs shall be a woeful punishment? (2:175). ?How steadfastly they seek the Fire! That is because God has revealed the Book with truth; those that disagree about it are in extreme schism? (2:176). ?Slay them wherever you find them. Drive them out of the places from which they drove you. Idolatry is worse than carnage. . . . [I]f they attack you put them to the sword. Thus shall the unbelievers be rewarded: but if they desist, God is forgiving and merciful. Fight against them until idolatry is no more and God?s religion reigns supreme. But if they desist, fight none except the evil-doers?(2:190?93). ?Fighting is obligatory for you, much as you dislike it. But you may hate a thing although it is good for you, and love a thing although it is bad for you. God knows, but you know not? (2:216). ?They will not cease to fight against you until they force you to renounce your faith?if they are able. But whoever of you recants and dies an unbeliever, his works shall come to nothing in this world and in the world to come. Such men shall be the tenants of Hell, wherein they shall abide forever. Those that have embraced the Faith, and those that have fled their land and fought for the cause of God, may hope for God?s mercy? (2:217?18). ?God does not guide the evil-doers? (2:258). ?God does not guide the unbelievers? (2:264). ?The evil-doers shall have none to help them? (2:270). ?God gives guidance to whom He will? (2:272).
?Those that deny God?s revelations shall be sternly punished; God is mighty and capable of revenge? (3:5). ?As for the unbelievers, neither their riches nor their children will in the least save them from God?s judgment. They shall become fuel for the Fire? (3:10). ?Say to the unbelievers: ?You shall be overthrown and driven into Hell?an evil resting place!?? (3:12). ?The only true faith in God?s sight is Islam. . . . He that denies God?s revelations should know that swift is God?s reckoning? (3:19). ?Let the believers not make friends with infidels in preference to the faithful?he that does this has nothing to hope for from God?except in self-defense? (3:28). ?Believers, do not make friends with any but your own people. They will spare no pains to corrupt you. They desire nothing but your ruin. Their hatred is evident from what they utter with their mouths, but greater is the hatred which their breasts conceal? (3:118). ?If you have suffered a defeat, so did the enemy. We alternate these vicissitudes among mankind so that God may know the true believers and choose martyrs from among you (God does not love the evil-doers); and that God may test the faithful and annihilate the infidels? (3:140). ?Believers, if you yield to the infidels they will drag you back to unbelief and you will return headlong to perdition. . . . We will put terror into the hearts of the unbelievers. . . . The Fire shall be their home? (3:149?51). ?Believers, do not follow the example of the infidels, who say of their brothers when they meet death abroad or in battle: ?Had they stayed with us they would not have died, nor would they have been killed.? God will cause them to regret their words. . . . If you should die or be slain in the cause of God, God?s forgiveness and His mercy would surely be better than all the riches they amass? (3:156). ?Never think that those who were slain in the cause of God are dead. They are alive, and well provided for by their Lord; pleased with His gifts and rejoicing that those they left behind, who have not yet joined them, have nothing to fear or to regret; rejoicing in God?s grace and bounty. God will not deny the faithful their reward? (3:169). ?Let not the unbelievers think that We prolong their days for their own good. We give them respite only so that they may commit more grievous sins. Shameful punishment awaits them? (3:178). ?Those that suffered persecution for My sake and fought and were slain: I shall forgive them their sins and admit them to gardens watered by running streams, as a reward from God; God holds the richest recompense. Do not be deceived by the fortunes of the unbelievers in the land. Their prosperity is brief. Hell shall be their home, a dismal resting place? (3:195?96).

?God has cursed them in their unbelief? (4:46). ?God will not forgive those who serve other gods besides Him; but He will forgive whom He will for other sins. He that serves other gods besides God is guilty of a heinous sin. . . . Consider those to whom a portion of the Scriptures was given. They believe in idols and false gods and say of the infidels: ?These are better guided than the believers?? (4:50?51). ?Those that deny Our revelation We will burn in fire. No sooner will their skins be consumed than We shall give them other skins, so that they may truly taste the scourge. God is mighty and wise? (4:55?56).
?Believers, do not seek the friendship of the infidels and those who were given the Book before you, who have made of your religion a jest and a pastime? (5:57). ?That which is revealed to you from your Lord will surely increase the wickedness and unbelief of many among them. We have stirred among them enmity and hatred, which will endure till the Day of Resurrection? (5:65). ?God does not guide the unbelievers? (5:67). ?That which is revealed to you from your Lord will surely increase the wickedness and unbelief of many among them. But do not grieve for the unbelievers? (5:69).

Want some more quotes from the Qu'ran? There's plenty more where that came from.

[Lucy - CSC]

Originally Posted by Shotsie

Dont take my word for it though, just read the Qu'ran:






Want some more quotes from the Qu'ran? There's plenty more where that came from.

You obviously havent read the bible for hate speaches.

[DaddyHalbucks]

Originally Posted by femdomdestiny

Your comparison between a capitalist industrialized country --and a third world dictatorship --is absurd.

[DaddyHalbucks]

Socialists, the biggest murderers of all time:

[MediaGuy]

Geeze it's amazing how once they lie and get away with it they just keep doing it and getting away with it...

Obama the peace-monger fersher...

Fuckwits.

:D

[Shotsie]

Originally Posted by Lucy - CSC

You obviously havent read the bible for hate speaches.

Yes, the Bible contains its own sadistic lunacy—but the above quotations can be fairly said to convey the central message of the Qur’an—and of Islam at nearly every moment in its history. The Qur’an does not contain anything like a Sermon on the Mount. The result is a religious hatred that has become a problem for the entire world. And the world still waits for moderate Muslims to speak honestly about it.

Let me ask you this if it's such a peaceful religion then Is Denmark responsible for the massive rioting, killing and arson that followed the publishing of cartoons from an obscure Danish newspaper? Is Western foreign policy responsible in any way for inspiring that violence? Should we in the West be censoring ourselves from caricaturing Muhammad or insulting Islam because that would inflame Muslim opinion and harm our security interests?