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Old 11-07-2011, 10:12 AM   #51
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Google 'Palestinian Rights'. They have the right to be occupid and bombed by Israel while the world watches on.
But do the Palestinians really have rights?

Not every religion or race automatically has the right to self determination - and the right to have their own country. Here in the US we have the Amish, and in Europe they have the Basque. The Basque are very interesting - they have their own culture and society, but live within the borders of Spain and France. They want their own country, but frankly, France and Spain have no desire to cough up any land to them nor should they legally required to do so.

With the Palestinians, well, they seem to have the land but are unable to form a country, and unable to stop it's population from launching terrorist attacks into Israel. They don't seem to understand that as a country if you attack another country, it's an act of war, their military attacks and invades, and you loose your country. Knock off the bullshit and hope the world accepts you as a country.

And do it quickly because Israel is taking what little land is left.
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Old 11-07-2011, 02:04 PM   #52
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You forget one thing, arabs started all wars against Israel even before the "occupation", trying to destroy the country. All arabs countries, all borders, all sides, few times.
You should less Zionist blogs. You'd have more time to pick up your first history book.

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Btw, the size of Israel you see in this picture is AFTER what is called "Occupation".
And how big does God say it should be?

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Iran has been warned, but like many of you have stated, they are stupid.
Warned about what? They aren't doing anything.

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A good bombardment will teach them a lesson, just like in 1981.
When would that be then?

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Really? Tell me more about this please.
It's a well known matter of record. Even Israel's own enquiry into the bitchslapping concluded it was a large and serious failure.

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Are you talking about the 2006 Lebanon War? Yeah, clearly Hezbollah smacked down the Israelis. Hezbollah launched unguided missiles into Israel hoping to hit something, while Israel launched well over ten thousand air strikes.
I'm sure the US launched a few air strikes in Vietnam too. How'd that one pan out?

Perhaps if Israel had spent less time massacring civilians, who accounted for most of Israeli kills, while Hezbollah kills were mostly Israeli military, they might have received less of a bitch slapping from Hezbollah.

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The Israeli military is one of the best in the world.
Of course. That's why they need billions of US taxpayers' money in miltary aid every year and still got bitchslapped by Hezbollah.

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It's gonna take more than unguided rockets to beat them.
If they're so tough why are they always cowering behind the skirt of the US? Except that time a few years ago, of course, where they got slapped like a bitch by Hezbollah.

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Old 11-07-2011, 04:21 PM   #53
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illuminati run the show, they own Israel & America

illuminati OWN ALL SIDES



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Old 11-07-2011, 04:29 PM   #54
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But do the Palestinians really have rights?

Not every religion or race automatically has the right to self determination - and the right to have their own country. Here in the US we have the Amish, and in Europe they have the Basque. The Basque are very interesting - they have their own culture and society, but live within the borders of Spain and France. They want their own country, but frankly, France and Spain have no desire to cough up any land to them nor should they legally required to do so.

With the Palestinians, well, they seem to have the land but are unable to form a country, and unable to stop it's population from launching terrorist attacks into Israel. They don't seem to understand that as a country if you attack another country, it's an act of war, their military attacks and invades, and you loose your country. Knock off the bullshit and hope the world accepts you as a country.

And do it quickly because Israel is taking what little land is left.
Do you actually know in any way shape or form the history of the area? Over 100 years ago Palestine was a country with Jews and Muslims living together.....

Palestine dont have there land, it has been stripped from them and then they were occupied. How is it a terrorist attack when you are shooting at someone who has made your peole into refugees, shoved thousands in prison without charge, commited acts of genocide against you and stolen your land? It is an act of defense.

Actually fuck it I honestly cant explain it to you...
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Old 11-07-2011, 04:41 PM   #55
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paranoid much?
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Old 11-07-2011, 05:06 PM   #56
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This starts to get a bit shocking after 17 minutes or so, it's Dr Norman Finkelstein speaking at Yale about the Gaza War

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Old 11-07-2011, 05:46 PM   #57
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But do the Palestinians really have rights?
Jesus fuck. There are just no words for you, dude.
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Old 11-08-2011, 01:46 AM   #58
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Do you actually know in any way shape or form the history of the area? Over 100 years ago Palestine was a country with Jews and Muslims living together.....
LOLOLOL, and you know history? You know shit
What country you are talking about? What was the name of that country? lol.
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Old 11-08-2011, 01:56 AM   #59
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This starts to get a bit shocking after 17 minutes or so, it's Dr Norman Finkelstein speaking at Yale about the Gaza War

The goal of the war in Gaza was to stop the rockets. before the war, 5000 rockets shot, after the war, only few hundreds. Even if you claim it was one side war (which is not true), it doesnt matter.

No rockets into Israeli cities, no war. Stop shooting and crying.
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Old 11-08-2011, 02:57 AM   #60
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The goal of the war in Gaza was to stop the rockets. before the war, 5000 rockets shot, after the war, only few hundreds. Even if you claim it was one side war (which is not true), it doesnt matter.

No rockets into Israeli cities, no war. Stop shooting and crying.
Israel did not keep their promise of the June 2008 ceasefire agreement; Hamas would stop sending rockets if Israel started lifting the blockade preventing aid from entering Gaza. Hamas had kept their side of the promise until it became clear that the blockade would not be lifted.

However, in the wider scheme of things Israel is being set up by the Bankers as a Mad Dog, so as eventually the stage will be set for the UN to take away every nation's weapons; the UN will be the global "Peacekeepers" This is not about Jews ethnic or religious, this is the Bankers taking the world towards their long term goal. Israel is being used as a piece in somebody else's chess match.
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Old 11-09-2011, 12:40 PM   #61
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Israel did not keep their promise of the June 2008 ceasefire agreement; Hamas would stop sending rockets if Israel started lifting the blockade preventing aid from entering Gaza. Hamas had kept their side of the promise until it became clear that the blockade would not be lifted.

However, in the wider scheme of things Israel is being set up by the Bankers as a Mad Dog, so as eventually the stage will be set for the UN to take away every nation's weapons; the UN will be the global "Peacekeepers" This is not about Jews ethnic or religious, this is the Bankers taking the world towards their long term goal. Israel is being used as a piece in somebody else's chess match.
Israel is an organized country unlike Hamas which is an official terrorist orgnisation (by US AND EUROPE). Israel Left Gaza and got 5000 rockets to its cities, it opened a war to stop it. So if Hamas says stop shooting, does it mean Israel should follow stop the operation? NO.

After you shoot 5000 rockets , you cant tell the other side when to stop shooting back, just because you decide there is a ceasefire.
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Old 11-09-2011, 12:42 PM   #62
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Amazing speech by the son of one of the main Hamas founders, from few days/weeks ago. I suggest you all listen and start to understand the reality better. Ignore the hebrew subtitles the speech is in english.
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Old 11-09-2011, 01:06 PM   #63
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Outstanding. The last time Israel lashed out they bitch smacked the entire Middle East. And I'm guessing Iran hasn't changed much since then.

Makes for good TV either way.


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