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2 Mbps 54 Meg 4 26.67%
4 Mbps 114 meg 5 33.33%
8 Mbps 204 Meg 4 26.67%
16 Mbps 473 Meg 1 6.67%
35 Mbps 805 Meg 1 6.67%
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Old 11-10-2011, 05:06 AM   #1
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What resolution, bit rate, size Video do you prefer?

What size file, resolution or size do you prefer to download?

Will they all play on your computer?

Is it worth downloading the larger file sizes for the quality?

I have encode right up to the Blu Ray bit rate, interesting whether anyone would download a gig for 3 minutes?

Download and save before playing.....(Save Target As...)


Striptease 2 Mbps 54 Meg

Striptease 4 Mbps 114 Meg

Striptease 8 Mbps 204 Meg

Striptease 16 Mbps 473 Meg

Striptease 35 Mbps 805 Meg

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Old 11-10-2011, 06:31 AM   #2
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8 Mbps 204 Meg is fine to me.
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Great music.

:O
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1., distorted vertically
2., 404.. may be good though
3., perfect
4., a bit skippy, even with a fast connection
5., same as above and it doesn't fit on 1280x1024

let's go with 3 although 2 would have been promising too..
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Great music.

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A friend working on his own ! But paid for and with copywrite.
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A friend working on his own ! But paid for and with copywrite.
Sounded like free library music. But if that is what you get working on your own, I totally concede my earlier argument.
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Sounded like free library music. But if that is what you get working on your own, I totally concede my earlier argument.
I hope I have learnt enough to know that you can't please everybody and it is foolish to get upset if people don't like the music, the way a girl acts, the costumes or what ever.

The important point is to make somebody happy who wants to pay.

I enjoy your "Pornbeer" not because I would do it like that or I have no opinion about how it couldbe better, but I think it works at the level it does, and it is quite funny. Not Ricky Gervis funny, but funny enough...I did like the one where your friend was stunned...good performance.
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2mbps - 4mbps. I want to see hot naked chicks TODAY, not wait to download higher than DVD quality video.

On the hand I know plenty of buyers like higher bit rates, so I think offering two choices is smart business wise.
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On my face was not an option so the poll is not relevent.
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2mbps - 4mbps. I want to see hot naked chicks TODAY, not wait to download higher than DVD quality video.

On the hand I know plenty of buyers like higher bit rates, so I think offering two choices is smart business wise.
I think your points are exactly right and we offer a choice of formats and sizes. Trying to work out where the size is too big for people to be bother to wait for a download. Our problem is that 30 minute films become gigantic files at over 4,Mbps.
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I don't know what is a bit rate. Sorry.
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What size file, resolution or size do you prefer to download?

Will they all play on your computer?

Is it worth downloading the larger file sizes for the quality?

I have encode right up to the Blu Ray bit rate, interesting whether anyone would download a gig for 3 minutes?

Download and save before playing.....(Save Target As...)


Striptease 2 Mbps 54 Meg

Striptease 4 Mbps 114 Meg

Striptease 8 Mbps 204 Meg

Striptease 16 Mbps 473 Meg

Striptease 35 Mbps 805 Meg
Hot scene Myra/Myron!
Who's the model?
Appx. how many movies do you make each year? I think I may have a good idea for you..

btw - I voted for 8mbps
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Hot scene Myra/Myron!
Who's the model?
Appx. how many movies do you make each year? I think I may have a good idea for you..

btw - I voted for 8mbps
The Model is Miho Lechter a Hungarian model.

We make 5 or 6 movies a year, if you want to e-mail me [email protected]

Thanks for voting
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The Model is Miho Lechter a Hungarian model.

We make 5 or 6 movies a year, if you want to e-mail me [email protected]

Thanks for voting
ahhh yes...She's on my to do list.



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ahhh yes...She's on my to do list.



http://www.terminpornbabes.com/details/67
Yeah, she is a great gril, very nice person too. Will you take her to the States?
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2 Mbps is fine for porn but I would also like to have a choice to download in higher quality if I really liked the clip...
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As millions watch Tube resolution which is crap, I think the resolution is the least important thing. Even when it comes to selling. what's important is the actualt content and what it's trying to achieve.

I watched it and have some very interesting screen grabs. Not sure if I should point out the flaws to you. But will point them out to others so they don't make the same mistakes. So Cherry, you can stick your reply where the sun don't shine, you will never learn. Others may it may help.

Make sure your cheap lights are well away from the model. Get better lights, with more power.



When editing know what you're doing. The girl needs to go right out and then fade back in. Not as this scene has been edited.



Have stockings without holes and ladders.



Remove labels from underwear. Also go out and spend money on some great underwear, using what's in the models bag is great for shooting amateur. trying to shoot anything better, well then you need to have something for her and still in the wrappers. So she starts from the beginning knowing you're serious.



Hold the girls attention 100%, nothing should distract her so she looks away unless it's an integral part of the scene.



Bad framing, it's not on anything specific. Cuts her foot and ass and isn't a close up. Shoot on a tripod with a floating head and make sure every sequence is rehearsed and and re-shot until it's right for this kind of scene.



Get a girl with a more attractive genitalia and take a razor and foam to the shoot.



See above re framing, rehearsing and shaving.



A girl with flawless skin and a sun tan is essential for this scene. A girl with this skin tone should never be shot against a white wall.



See above re shaving and genitalia. IMO she's just been fucked hard as her labia are swollen, or just a pussy too ugly for this style of scene.



Yellow jells on a white back ground and pale model. = Gross amateur. Use jells which will warm the scene not make her look jaundiced.



As she walks off she shows what she thinks of the entire project. IMO She's laughing at the entire thing. Clearly not understanding what it was about, involve the model in what you're trying to achieve. Also cut it without revealing you can't afford decent lights.



I see what Cherry is trying to do here. Clearly his lack of experience, knowledge, training and budget are letting him down and stopping him from achieving the right effect.

Just because you can drive, never assume you can compete in a F1 Grand Prix. It takes years of experience, knowledge, training and budget plus some real skills. Know you're limits and do the best you can within them.

To shoot this properly you need, a great model who can do this kind of work, a location that sets a mood, the right equipment, music that matches the mood you're trying to set, a day at least to shoot it in.

These are all essential, otherwise you'll end up with something like this. And worried if it's in the right resolution.

Otherwise get her to lay on a couch and shove fingers, dildos and massagers up and on her pussy, till the massager takes her out of faking it and into enjoying herself. While she teases the fuck out of the shooter, so the audience up being teased.

I know my limits and skills and stayed close to them.
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IMO Shooters should take this piece of kit with him on every shoot and get the girls to use it.

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Paul, you do know those clips are 16:9, to presnt them properly you should correct them in photoshop after grabing the frames. Otherwise it looks like you are stupid and are looking at the scene in the wrong format.

I won't address your points as you

1) have demonstated you know nothing about video film production in the clip you made.

2) You have stated you are not a photographer

3) You have no training do not read books

4) You asked for help on using premiere, you do not know how to edit or how to shoot to edit.

Now I am sorry it upsets you seeing people do what you can't, but either learn or ignore.
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Paul, you do know those clips are 16:9, to presnt them properly you should correct them in photoshop after grabing the frames. Otherwise it looks like you are stupid and are looking at the scene in the wrong format.

I won't address your points as you

1) have demonstated you know nothing about video film production in the clip you made.

2) You have stated you are not a photographer

3) You have no training do not read books

4) You asked for help on using premiere, you do not know how to edit or how to shoot to edit.

Now I am sorry it upsets you seeing people do what you can't, but either learn or ignore.
Cherry that film demonstrates your failures.

I doubt if you ever had training in film making. If you had you wouldn't be making stupid mistakes.

1) I never claim to know anything about video film production you have. Yet your work proves otherwise.

2) True, I'm a pornographer. Still know more about photography than you do. Like shaving off the stubble before shooting a girl. I suspect the reason you don't tell the girl is your nervousness about these genitalia matters. I know enough to know not to use a yellow gel on a light skin model against a white wall.

3) You have no training do not read books. Or you just don't take in the information.

4) I asked for help on using premiere, I do know how to edit and how to shoot to edit. Knowing how to use a program, doesn't give you the skill to shoot the sequence or edit it afterwards. As you have clearly shown.

I pointed out glaring failures on your part. Not recognising those failures show stupidity. Keep telling me my work doesn't contain something I had no intentions of it containing shows more stupidity.

Sadly the only person who thinks you have a clue is yourself.

Please show us evidence you have had any training at photography. Because your work shows average amateur.

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why bother ????????????
Because others might see his stuff and think he has a clue. They will waste time and money trying to do what he does, when they might make money doing something else. He's a fool who has never made enough in porn or photography to afford a decent light. His mistakes are many and obvious.

If he was shooting amateur, he would be fine. He shoots over the top of his knowledge, skills, talent and budget. Which is obvious to anyone who has a clue.

Unless you're asking why does he bother. For this I haven't got an answer, best wait for him to tell us. I suspect it's his inflated ego of his talents. Which he must know are not good, his sales will tell him that.
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Paul, you do know those clips are 16:9, to presnt them properly you should correct them in photoshop after grabing the frames. Otherwise it looks like you are stupid and are looking at the scene in the wrong format.
Actually, this is how the 2mb/sec clip displays when you click on the link so it's not Pauls error, it's yours. The 4mb/sec one displays 16:9 correctly.

Ask anyone what size they like and usually they pick one size bigger than the one they actually click on. Some questions just aren't worth asking. Are you a good driver? Are you a great lover? How big is your dick? (FYI, Great, Yes and HUGE) Everyone lies. Instead you need to track WHAT your users actually do, and don't forget to compare non-members stats with those from within the members area, not least as you might get a surprise.

I watch plenty of telly on iTunes and gave up downloading HD content a while back for most shows, certainly anything throwaway where the visuals aren't the key element, like sitcoms. But for movies or really nicely shot stuff HD is a maybe.

Lots of people use HD tellys as PC monitors so there's plenty of people looking at screens 1920x1080, but mostly they're sitting closer than TV distance so full screen is a bit unpleasant, so for my money 1280x720 in the middle of that is pretty workable and its a format that plays on a lot of devices like Ipads and phones.

Having a million formats is so last week. 360p at a low bit rate for watching now, and 1280p at something reasonable so you can pretend to yourself you'll watch it high res later is fine by me. Fuck it, move on and just shoot some more. It's why tubes won.

And next time you shoot a stowaway who just arrived in the UK by hiding under an Eddie Stobbart truck get her to wash and/or brush her hair and cut the labels out of the back of her highly flammable pound shop thong.
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If only that made sense.
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Actually, this is how the 2mb/sec clip displays when you click on the link so it's not Pauls error, it's yours. The 4mb/sec one displays 16:9 correctly.

Ask anyone what size they like and usually they pick one size bigger than the one they actually click on. Some questions just aren't worth asking. Are you a good driver? Are you a great lover? How big is your dick? (FYI, Great, Yes and HUGE) Everyone lies. Instead you need to track WHAT your users actually do, and don't forget to compare non-members stats with those from within the members area, not least as you might get a surprise.

I watch plenty of telly on iTunes and gave up downloading HD content a while back for most shows, certainly anything throwaway where the visuals aren't the key element, like sitcoms. But for movies or really nicely shot stuff HD is a maybe.

Lots of people use HD tellys as PC monitors so there's plenty of people looking at screens 1920x1080, but mostly they're sitting closer than TV distance so full screen is a bit unpleasant, so for my money 1280x720 in the middle of that is pretty workable and its a format that plays on a lot of devices like Ipads and phones.

Having a million formats is so last week. 360p at a low bit rate for watching now, and 1280p at something reasonable so you can pretend to yourself you'll watch it high res later is fine by me. Fuck it, move on and just shoot some more. It's why tubes won.

And next time you shoot a stowaway who just arrived in the UK by hiding under an Eddie Stobbart truck get her to wash and/or brush her hair and cut the labels out of the back of her highly flammable pound shop thong.
If you look at my comments you'll see bad framing is only a few of his mistakes. The unshaven stubble, the bad editing, the cheap underwear, the bad lighting, bad positioning of the model, cheap lousy music, flaws on the girls skin, the girls pale skin on a white wall and yellow gels. Have nothing to do with the frame size and everything to do with this guy being a make believe photographer. he makes mistake after mistake and has never shown anything above the level of competent amateur.

Rules exist for the un skilled to follow so they can learn their trade. When they have they can then bend those rules to better fit their vision.

Idiots with little skill ignoring rules, recipe for a failure.
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[QUOTE=SimonScans;18557814]Actually, this is how the 2mb/sec clip displays when you click on the link so it's not Pauls error, it's yours. The 4mb/sec one displays 16:9 correctly.


I watch plenty of telly on iTunes and gave up downloading HD content a while back for most shows, certainly anything throwaway where the visuals aren't the key element, like sitcoms. But for movies or really nicely shot stuff HD is a maybe.

QUOTE]

Well as it plays in exactly the right format on my computer it is not really a mistake, more the point of posts clips on a forum such as this where kind souls post how it looks on there computers. That is the whole point is it not? It is a problem we all face the number of formats and how they play on different computers.



Of course there are some sad blokes here who have a complex about how little they know and want to prove how clever they are by criticizing anything anyone else posts.

We are happy to let our work speak for itself.

Paul Markham's work not only speaks for itself, it SCREAMS how awful it is and how he has no talent, no knowledge, no skills.
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We are happy to let our work speak for itself.
It's shit, everyone (including you) knows it's shit. You deluded dirty old sad twat

You certainly have never sold a membership in your life, you only shoot porn because its the only way you get to see naked (albeit smelly third world staving desperate immigrants) girls.

Pathetic
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Paul Markham's work not only speaks for itself, it SCREAMS how awful it is and how he has no talent, no knowledge, no skills.
But makes better porn than you


And has made some money doing it. Unlike you, you sad deluded old pervert
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Actually, this is how the 2mb/sec clip displays when you click on the link so it's not Pauls error, it's yours. The 4mb/sec one displays 16:9 correctly.


I watch plenty of telly on iTunes and gave up downloading HD content a while back for most shows, certainly anything throwaway where the visuals aren't the key element, like sitcoms. But for movies or really nicely shot stuff HD is a maybe.

QUOTE]

Well as it plays in exactly the right format on my computer it is not really a mistake, more the point of posts clips on a forum such as this where kind souls post how it looks on there computers. That is the whole point is it not? It is a problem we all face the number of formats and how they play on different computers.
Sorry no. Two reasons. One. You were trying to score points of Paul for mangling your frame grabs. He didn't. Two. It plays incorrectly on at least TWO computers. Something YOU did caused it to happen that way.

Your customers won't give a crap about bit rate if the picture is the wrong shape.
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Paul Markham's work not only speaks for itself, it SCREAMS how awful it is and how he has no talent, no knowledge, no skills.
Yet I have made more money with a camera than you ever will make. so how do you figure that out?

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Of course there are some sad blokes here who have a complex about how little they know and want to prove how clever they are by criticizing anything anyone else posts.

We are happy to let our work speak for itself.
Your work speaks volumes.

Yes Jimmy, the rules are good for people like Cherry. He would know this if he had any training. Rules like,

If you're going to shoot a sequence that requires a close up of a girls rear end, make sure she has a flawless skin.

Pubic stubble is a turn off.

Pale skinned girls against a white background are not to be shot.

Yellow Gels on a white background and pale skinned girl makes her look jaundiced.

Stand a girl away from a white background or "blue wall" so you can back light it.

Don't over expose a pale girl on a white back ground.

But decent underwear if you want to look like you can afford it.

Cut out the labels.

Get decent music to overlay on a scene like a striptease, stripper or fantasy style would be best.

Idiots who break the above rules, need to have a clue how to break or stick to them.

Telling someone who has survived 34 years in porn that his work is awful. Shows stupidity.

Cherry can insult me all he likes, he's clearly untrained, never read a proper book on photography and has no qualifications. Just accuses, others who admit they learned by being on the job. They had no formal training.
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Old 11-14-2011, 04:30 AM   #33
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Sorry no. Two reasons. One. You were trying to score points of Paul for mangling your frame grabs. He didn't. Two. It plays incorrectly on at least TWO computers. Something YOU did caused it to happen that way.

Your customers won't give a crap about bit rate if the picture is the wrong shape.
He's obsessed about stupid things like the shape and look.

If you shape shit into a rose and paint it pink, it's still shit.

Cherry will never take criticism from anyone. In his head he's great. I suppose he hasn't figured out why no one else agrees with him. Including surfers.

Maybe it's all our lack of vision.
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It's shit, everyone (including you) knows it's shit. You deluded dirty old sad twat

You certainly have never sold a membership in your life, you only shoot porn because its the only way you get to see naked (albeit smelly third world staving desperate immigrants) girls.

Pathetic
Small sample size but plenty enough to prove you wrong.



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(albeit smelly third world staving desperate immigrants) girls.

Pathetic
Are you suggesting that Kayla Louise and Faye Taylor hail from Staines?

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Yet I have made more money with a camera than you ever will make. so how do you figure that out?

Your work speaks volumes.

Yes Jimmy, the rules are good for people like Cherry. He would know this if he had any training. Rules like,

If you're going to shoot a sequence that requires a close up of a girls rear end, make sure she has a flawless skin.

Pubic stubble is a turn off.

Pale skinned girls against a white background are not to be shot.

Yellow Gels on a white background and pale skinned girl makes her look jaundiced.

Stand a girl away from a white background or "blue wall" so you can back light it.

Don't over expose a pale girl on a white back ground.

But decent underwear if you want to look like you can afford it.

Cut out the labels.

Get decent music to overlay on a scene like a striptease, stripper or fantasy style would be best.

Idiots who break the above rules, need to have a clue how to break or stick to them.

Telling someone who has survived 34 years in porn that his work is awful. Shows stupidity.

Cherry can insult me all he likes, he's clearly untrained, never read a proper book on photography and has no qualifications. Just accuses, others who admit they learned by being on the job. They had no formal training.
Right. Just as you cannot depict a nude descending a staircase. No chance you caught the reference, but that's fine.

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He's obsessed about stupid things like the shape and look.

If you shape shit into a rose and paint it pink, it's still shit.

Cherry will never take criticism from anyone. In his head he's great. I suppose he hasn't figured out why no one else agrees with him. Including surfers.

Maybe it's all our lack of vision.
You're absolutely right, Paul. Your lack of vision played an immense role in your 34 year 'survival'. You were able to deliver exactly what was asked of you in a timely fashion. Nothing more, nothing less and I honestly doubt that Cherry's ego would have allowed him to do the same.

Let's face it. Cherry is fucked. In an industry where the real money is made by flooding the market with generic, low-to-medium quality, and unimaginative content that appeals to a largely midscale male audience, Cherry is producing unique, high quality, and imaginative content that appeals to upscale lesbians. And while he had the foresight to correctly identify his target market, which is an important detail that many tend to overlook, he made the tactical error of using a sexually ambiguous fictional character in approaching said target!

To top it all off, he's utilizing a new business model to sell the content!!! Quelle horreur!!!! I guess he didn't get the memo which stated that you're supposed to do what everyone else is doing despite the fact that most of them are all bitching about how much piracy has hurt their business.

Personally, I really don't even like his content, but the quality is undeniable and I respect it. Maybe he is indeed breaking too many rules at once, but all you have to do is take a casual look at the high level of attention which is paid to every minute detail on his website to know that he was cognizant of the fact that a freaking tag was sticking out of the back of Miho Lechter's panties!! Wow. Maybe it doesn't work for you or any of your bum chums, but you have to give him a ton of credit for having the balls to push the boundaries and even if Cherry's porn earnings never surpass your porn earnings, I guarantee that more people will make more money by having been influenced by his work than by yours. He's an artist and that's what artists do and while that's probably not something about which a low end commercial photographer such as yourself would care about, it's something that still bears noting.
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