How are your C4S stores doing this month? - GoFuckYourself.com

BFT3K · 11-13-2011, 12:42 AM

Seems like something's really off.

Are sales properly registering?

Seems unusually slow over here.

Anyone else?

fitzmulti · 11-13-2011, 02:22 AM

It has been "slowing down" for a few months now...crazy!

BIGTYMER · 11-13-2011, 02:54 AM

Should be red hot this time of year.

BFT3K · 11-13-2011, 08:35 AM

BFT3K · 11-13-2011, 08:53 AM

First they have some sort of "technical difficulties" and then the hit counters are up and running again. The hit numbers are big, but the conversions are shit... even though the models and themes in question are proven sellers in the past.

Very strange...

BFT3K · 11-13-2011, 11:17 AM

Anyone else?

SpicyM · 11-13-2011, 03:51 PM

I hate that you cant send visitors to your store without that stupid warning page.. I mean, who is going to send them from a non adult site ?? ...so why bother everyone with clicking the entrer link??

Also if you have 5 stores you cant marge the fucking cash into one payout, which is pretty stupid.

shimmy2 · 11-13-2011, 05:15 PM

me and a few FL producers discussed this the other day and we agreed something is up, last 2 months actually c4s been hurting majorly in comparison to the other clip stores and vod sites

BFT3K · 11-13-2011, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by shimmy2

me and a few FL producers discussed this the other day and we agreed something is up, last 2 months actually c4s been hurting majorly in comparison to the other clip stores and vod sites

I'm reluctant to update my stores until they straighten out their shit over there. Seems like a waste of time, if the increased hits don't convert these days.

Last month was okay, but this month is messed up, and they aren't giving me any answers that build any confidence that the matter has been fixed.

I'm looking into eclipstore.com as a backup. Any other clip stores worthwhile?

RyuLion · 11-13-2011, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by shimmy2

me and a few FL producers discussed this the other day and we agreed something is up, last 2 months actually c4s been hurting majorly in comparison to the other clip stores and vod sites

Like which other ones are you talking about? I'm not familiar with clip stores...

Screwed Up · 11-13-2011, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by SpicyM

I hate that you cant send visitors to your store without that stupid warning page.. I mean, who is going to send them from a non adult site ?? ...so why bother everyone with clicking the entrer link??

Also if you have 5 stores you cant marge the fucking cash into one payout, which is pretty stupid.

You mean "merge". And yes you can, just keep your payout info exactly the same in all of them. Send them an email to make sure it's merged.

dgraves · 11-13-2011, 09:31 PM

i have two stores and both have been slower the last two months, down about 50%.

SpicyM · 11-13-2011, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Screwed Up

You mean "merge". And yes you can, just keep your payout info exactly the same in all of them. Send them an email to make sure it's merged.

I emailed them about this, I was told it was not possible.

BFT3K · 11-13-2011, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by SpicyM

I emailed them about this, I was told it was not possible.

It is definitely possible. I have many stores there, and they are all merged into one payout. If your stores are all associated with the same ownership and mailing address, it should be no problem at all.

SwirlsGirl · 11-14-2011, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K

First they have some sort of "technical difficulties" and then the hit counters are up and running again. The hit numbers are big, but the conversions are shit... even though the models and themes in question are proven sellers in the past.

Very strange...

Talk about strange, I recall about a year and a half ago clicking on my clips4sale store 4 or 5 times in 10 minutes and my "top selling clips" order had shuffled right before my eyes as if there were a flurry of new sales coming in but there were no sales!!

I remember calling the tech support number speaking to 2 individuals about it who told me that UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES should my "top selling clips" be shuffling around with no sales!

I said no shit sherlock, I was promised a return phone call, and email neither of which ever were recieved.

So I have no email, no telephone call, no sales, but my top selling clip order shuffled repeatedly to suggest there were plenty of clip sales coming, but no sales being credited.

Saleshad already evaporated into nothing anyway, and to see "top selling clips" shuffling around without any sales....left little to be desired.

Then I found a thread where some disgruntled ex employee claimed he was paid to write shave/skip sale code into the software.

Who knows if it was true, It would not surprise me knowing what I know now, about all the ways to skim, and how tempted the ones collecting your funds can be,

So I don't expect much sales from clips4sale, and am still waiting for my intelligent answer as to why top selling clip order shuffles around like sales are rolling in when there are no sales rolling in.

BFT3K · 11-14-2011, 09:25 AM

Coincidental or not, my clip sales seem to be back up on the heels of all my bitching.

Who knows....

Fletch XXX · 11-14-2011, 09:31 AM

interesting stuff

SpicyM · 11-15-2011, 12:11 AM

Guess kiwi girl could give us answers to the guestions in this thread.

The guys on their ticket support look like they dont even know how the C4S works, typically some Indians.

Barefootsies · 11-15-2011, 09:23 AM

I have noticed that recently they added in their links on your store to tell you to "return to clips4sale" or whatever. This type of stuff always pisses me off, and it what I am sure others would call a traffic leak.

I had always preferred to drive my own traffic to my stores via my niche network of sites, newsletters, etc. versus relying solely on C4S main page like many do. If you want to link out to your own stores, you have to provide link juice back to C4S or they will not allow you to link out to your own membership sites.

Even when you drive your own traffic now, you have that "return to clips4sale" which can drive your traffic to other stores versus keeping them bouncing around your own network of sites and stores. I think this is getting a bit greedy from the C4S side of the coin.

BFT3K · 11-15-2011, 11:15 AM

Another problem with their back end is the "set preview" option.

You spend time going through each clip, picking out where you want to set the preview.

Then you update the clip and the preview doesn't activate until HOURS later, at which point it is NEVER where you wanted it set to begin with!

At that point you just disable all previews again, since it NEVER works out correctly anyway!

How many years before you C4S guys are going to bother fixing this?

Sometimes it is better to NOT offer a feature, than it is to offer something that is totally fucked up.

BFT3K · 11-15-2011, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by SpicyM

Guess kiwi girl could give us answers to the guestions in this thread.

The guys on their ticket support look like they dont even know how the C4S works, typically some Indians.

The support ticket replies are laughable, completely uninformative, and totally useless.

fuzebox · 11-15-2011, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies

I have noticed that recently they added in their links on your store to tell you to "return to clips4sale" or whatever. This type of stuff always pisses me off, and it what I am sure others would call a traffic leak.

Clips4sale always has been one big traffic leak though. That's why you and others rely on their internal traffic to make sales

Barefootsies · 11-15-2011, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by fuzebox

Clips4sale always has been one big traffic leak though. That's why you and others rely on their internal traffic to make sales

Yep. I rely on it so much I have always opted to drive my own targeted niche traffic from my own network of sites, blogs, newsletters, to my own stores.

**rolls eyes**

Kiwigirl · 11-16-2011, 10:33 PM

Hey all

Being that I don't surf the boards often I hadn't caught wind of this thread until someone emailed it to both Neil and myself.
Most of you know that you can always contact me at jo @ clips4sale.com to look into concerns that you may have so please make use of that if necessary.

In regards to the topics mentioned in this thread....
If you are not getting sufficient response through http://support.clips4sale.com/ then email Tom @clips4sale.com and if that doesn't help then email me please.

As for sales on the site, I will have to investigate this further as I've only had one direct concern recently which wasn't a result of traffic loss. I don't want to stipulate explanation for complaints when I am unable to provide a honest and solid answer. I do know that the duplication of the entire DB is in the final stages of being completed which is a positive as there has been server issues with the primary DB that have gone undetected due to C4S being pulled from numerous servers. What the duplicate DB will do is if any server on the primary location crashes within a matter of seconds the secondary server location will switch everything and no one will even know that it happened. Whether or not the recent server issues are responsible for the decline in sales or not is unknown but I will most certainly look into this and keep you all posted.

Obviously if a studio is loosing $ then so is C4S. So it's important for the sake of both parties involved to get to the bottom of this.

In the meantime if you wish to email me direct about your concerns then please feel free to do so and I will get to you as soon as I possibly can to help.

Stay tuned on this topic and let me find out whats going on

Cheers

Kiwigirl · 11-17-2011, 02:36 AM

I have spent the past 4 and a half hours doing in depth research and have turned up with no issues with the sites traffic, nor have sales been lower than previous months.
In fact sales as a whole are up compared to October to date and way up compared to October 2010.

Now while digging deeper into studios that had inconsistent sales I discovered issues like....
- not utilizing their content when updating
- lack of using tools like the "future activation" tool to set updates rather than posting them all in one day once a week
- no regular updates
- using c4smembers.com as content on their clips4sale studio
- no content at all

It is a competitive market on C4S with new studios opening daily which in turn means that consumers have more to choose from.

I'd like to suggest to those that are interested, to consider some of the following pointers in effort to increase your sales
- Update at least once a day
- Take advantage of tools like the future activation feature where you can set content to go live months in advance if you wished
- Consider promoting your studio and driving your own source of traffic via twitter, facebook, forums and blogs (be sure not to spam sources though or they'll ban you)
- Maybe even go as far as doing some paid advertising if you can afford to invest money to make more money (I'd advise hiring a professional to do the buying and optimizing though)

So with that all said, regrettably there is no issue on C4S end with sales or traffic so if you wish for me to dig in and review your studios please email me at jo @ clips4sale.com and I will take a look at your stores and try to help you get back those sales that have apparently decreased for you.

Thanks

11-13-2011, 12:42 AM	#1
BFT3K Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Narnia Posts: 10,764	How are your C4S stores doing this month? Seems like something's really off. Are sales properly registering? Seems unusually slow over here. Anyone else? Last edited by BFT3K; 11-13-2011 at 12:44 AM..

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11-13-2011, 08:53 AM	#5
BFT3K Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Narnia Posts: 10,764	First they have some sort of "technical difficulties" and then the hit counters are up and running again. The hit numbers are big, but the conversions are shit... even though the models and themes in question are proven sellers in the past. Very strange...

11-13-2011, 11:17 AM	#6
BFT3K Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Narnia Posts: 10,764	Anyone else?

11-13-2011, 03:51 PM	#7
SpicyM Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 4,558	I hate that you cant send visitors to your store without that stupid warning page.. I mean, who is going to send them from a non adult site ?? ...so why bother everyone with clicking the entrer link?? Also if you have 5 stores you cant marge the fucking cash into one payout, which is pretty stupid.

11-14-2011, 09:25 AM	#16
BFT3K Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Narnia Posts: 10,764	Coincidental or not, my clip sales seem to be back up on the heels of all my bitching. Who knows....

11-15-2011, 12:11 AM	#18
SpicyM Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 4,558	Guess kiwi girl could give us answers to the guestions in this thread. The guys on their ticket support look like they dont even know how the C4S works, typically some Indians.

11-15-2011, 09:23 AM	#19
Barefootsies Choice is an Illusion Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Land of Obama Posts: 42,635	I have noticed that recently they added in their links on your store to tell you to "return to clips4sale" or whatever. This type of stuff always pisses me off, and it what I am sure others would call a traffic leak. I had always preferred to drive my own traffic to my stores via my niche network of sites, newsletters, etc. versus relying solely on C4S main page like many do. If you want to link out to your own stores, you have to provide link juice back to C4S or they will not allow you to link out to your own membership sites. Even when you drive your own traffic now, you have that "return to clips4sale" which can drive your traffic to other stores versus keeping them bouncing around your own network of sites and stores. I think this is getting a bit greedy from the C4S side of the coin. __________________ Should You Email Your Members? Link1 \| Link2 \| Link3 Enough Said. "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"

11-15-2011, 11:15 AM	#20
BFT3K Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Narnia Posts: 10,764	Another problem with their back end is the "set preview" option. You spend time going through each clip, picking out where you want to set the preview. Then you update the clip and the preview doesn't activate until HOURS later, at which point it is NEVER where you wanted it set to begin with! At that point you just disable all previews again, since it NEVER works out correctly anyway! How many years before you C4S guys are going to bother fixing this? Sometimes it is better to NOT offer a feature, than it is to offer something that is totally fucked up. Last edited by BFT3K; 11-15-2011 at 11:17 AM..

11-16-2011, 10:33 PM	#24
Kiwigirl Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Florida Posts: 2,556	Hey all Being that I don't surf the boards often I hadn't caught wind of this thread until someone emailed it to both Neil and myself. Most of you know that you can always contact me at jo @ clips4sale.com to look into concerns that you may have so please make use of that if necessary. In regards to the topics mentioned in this thread.... If you are not getting sufficient response through http://support.clips4sale.com/ then email Tom @clips4sale.com and if that doesn't help then email me please. As for sales on the site, I will have to investigate this further as I've only had one direct concern recently which wasn't a result of traffic loss. I don't want to stipulate explanation for complaints when I am unable to provide a honest and solid answer. I do know that the duplication of the entire DB is in the final stages of being completed which is a positive as there has been server issues with the primary DB that have gone undetected due to C4S being pulled from numerous servers. What the duplicate DB will do is if any server on the primary location crashes within a matter of seconds the secondary server location will switch everything and no one will even know that it happened. Whether or not the recent server issues are responsible for the decline in sales or not is unknown but I will most certainly look into this and keep you all posted. Obviously if a studio is loosing $ then so is C4S. So it's important for the sake of both parties involved to get to the bottom of this. In the meantime if you wish to email me direct about your concerns then please feel free to do so and I will get to you as soon as I possibly can to help. Stay tuned on this topic and let me find out whats going on Cheers __________________ KIWISOURCING OUTSOURCING WITH A TWIST!

11-17-2011, 02:36 AM	#25
Kiwigirl Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Florida Posts: 2,556	I have spent the past 4 and a half hours doing in depth research and have turned up with no issues with the sites traffic, nor have sales been lower than previous months. In fact sales as a whole are up compared to October to date and way up compared to October 2010. Now while digging deeper into studios that had inconsistent sales I discovered issues like.... - not utilizing their content when updating - lack of using tools like the "future activation" tool to set updates rather than posting them all in one day once a week - no regular updates - using c4smembers.com as content on their clips4sale studio - no content at all It is a competitive market on C4S with new studios opening daily which in turn means that consumers have more to choose from. I'd like to suggest to those that are interested, to consider some of the following pointers in effort to increase your sales - Update at least once a day - Take advantage of tools like the future activation feature where you can set content to go live months in advance if you wished - Consider promoting your studio and driving your own source of traffic via twitter, facebook, forums and blogs (be sure not to spam sources though or they'll ban you) - Maybe even go as far as doing some paid advertising if you can afford to invest money to make more money (I'd advise hiring a professional to do the buying and optimizing though) So with that all said, regrettably there is no issue on C4S end with sales or traffic so if you wish for me to dig in and review your studios please email me at jo @ clips4sale.com and I will take a look at your stores and try to help you get back those sales that have apparently decreased for you. Thanks __________________ KIWISOURCING OUTSOURCING WITH A TWIST!