biskoppen

Mine is half what is usually is.. and you?

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redwhiteandblue

Cue Swirlsgirl in 3....2....1...

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SwirlsGirl

sorry if I was a few seconds late RED WHITE AND BLUE....LOL but better late than never!!!

Here you go BizKoppen old buddy old pal....the data you requested, and yes very appropiate of you to ask your colleagues to post and compare data!!!

Here is ours for the past 5 days

Saturday nov 12th form submissions 11% approvals 100%

Sunday Nov 13th form submissions 16% approvals 100%

Now before you look at mondays data I want to inform you that we talked to high level rep in fraud department and as of this past monday and he told us that sales and income are directly related to form submissions and approvals.....

We mentioned that there appears to be an obvious limit or ceiling on what we get approved!

he said that we had to increase submissions to increase sales....

.NOW I PRESENT THE FOLLOWING

Monday Nov. 14th form submissions 30% approvals 60%

Tuesday Nov 15th form submissions 66% approvals 25%

Wednesday nov 16th form submissions 0% approvals 0%

you are reading those numbers correctly as I have pointed out ad infinitem to anyone who can see thru the matrix

Now how many gotdamn theads have you seen swirlsgirl talk about 2 days of double digit form submissions being followed by a big fat zero goose egg, or nothing for form submissions?

But I know its me on crack, or my bad website design, or veterans day, or me being paranoid or jealous.... the numbers do not lie when billing reps and con men do

biskoppen

Ok, defintly also odd patterns going on there

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Lucy - CSC

I dont understand the NATS submits. I check our stats and we have loads of submits with NATS and no sales.

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SwirlsGirl

Yeah odd patterns is putting it mildly!!!

When they say more form hits = more submissions = more sales it does not hold up...

I can triple or quadruple my form hits, and submissions and if I do my approvals go way way down...so the threshold is not comprimised

Jakez

You cannot compare 2 days and get accurate data.

FFS..

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signupdamnit

SwirlsGirl if you could post form submission vs approval percentages for the past 30 days (or even 60 to 90 would be better) I'd be very interested and I bet many others would too. I' also suggest adding some type of tracking (but make sure you don't interfere with affiliate credit!) to see just what the hell is hitting the ccbill join form and what the real counts are. That way you aren't just relying on ccbill's numbers for the join form hits and you'd be able to see if you are getting a bunch of hits from Googlebot to it or an influx of Korean surfers.

wehateporn

Over here, I'm not sure why, it could be any of a number of reasons, but I'm having (up to this day 16th November) the best CCBill month ever. Very decent conversion ratio

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Remember that SwirlsGirl actually believes that some of the GFY posters are elobrate pieces of software being used by billers to discredit her on GFY. Consider how fucking crazy that is.

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SwirlsGirl

here is the data I have monthly cumulative for this year 2011

jan 2011 form submissions 20% approval 81%


feb 2011 form submissions 27% approval 74%


mar 2011 form submissions 18% approval 82%


apr 2011 form submissions 36% approval 52%


may 2011 form submissions 17% approval 82%



june 2011 form submissions 28% approval 76%


july 2011 form submissions 40% approval 65%


aug 2011 form submissions 27% approval 85%


literally every single month from jan 2011 thru aug 2011 was unexplained wild swings in form submits and approvals...

if that does not look like an on/off switch to you then I don't know what else to say

sept 2011 form submissions 28% approval 80%


oct 2011 form submissions 18% approval 78%


nov 2011 form submissions 19% approval 58%


Now these numbers below are a handful of weekly random reports from the last 8-10 weeks of 2011

Look closely and you may see something that is barely perceptible .....

11-6-2011 thru 11-12-2011 form submissions 18% approvals 55%

10-30-2011 thru 11-5-2011 form submissions 12% approvals 75%

10-23-2011 thru 10-29-2011 form submissions 10% approvals 70%

10-16-2011 thru 10-22-2011 form submissions 20% approvals 60%

10-2-2011 thru 10-8-2011 form submissions 25% approvals 100%

9-25-2011 thru 10-1-2011 form submissions 42% approvals 60%

9-18-2011 thru 9-24-2011 form submissions 23% approvals 100%

9-4-2011 thru 9-10-2011 form submissions 21% approvals 77%


Now this is what I don't get....

1. I don't get how some of you post consistent form submissions like 5 days worth of submissions that stay within a 3-4 percentage point deviation example.....

15%,13%,14%, 13%, 16%

for 5 days your form submissions are consistent with no 0 submission days but with my own client account it looks more like this......

23%, 55%, 0%, 2%, 75%, 42%, 0% the numbers dance all over

same with many of your approval percentages they look clean like this.....
100%, 95%, 100%, 100%, 98%,100%

but with my approvals especially lately they look like this......

35%, 65% , 100%, 75%, 45%, 35%

Now I am told my account is wide open with no restrictions and no extra scrubbing....sure maybe but these numbers make it hard for me to accept what I am told

Now if 3 or more of you post numbers that look identical to mine, I might be willing to reconsider my position, but the stats I have seen show me that all client accounts or perhaps join forms are not configured equally

SwirlsGirl

Hey signupdamnit as you being one who's input I respect and value would you have a look at my posted stats and let me know what you think, on or off the board is fine

bean-aid

We want to see daily percentages for the past 60 days to substantiate 2 days of double digits then nada to follow.

Post those stats and if they are as you say, I will give you a big hug

bean-aid

And to follow up... Get your own merchant account!! I see every transaction because I am the merchant. Ccbill is your merchant and you will never get a single fucking answer that would make them in the wrong.

But really, they have every right to tell you NOTHING! Its there account, not yours!

Shoplifter

Well of course increased submissions mean increased sales. I think someone is being sarcastic with you.

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Jakez

I don't see anything wrong with the stats you posted.. maybe it's just me. For example you can have 12 sales one day and 0-1 the next, it's normal. And from some of the percentages you posted it seems that you aren't exactly dealing with a LOT of signups, so wild swings in percentages can easily happen.

Stop being so paranoid.

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SwirlsGirl

Beaner mad respect to you, and as far as you are concerned I know I am preaching to the choir, I know and understand what you know....however I am heavily invested with ccbill and cannot just go to 7 11 and pick up a merchant account with my chili dog...LOL

For a few reasons I am unable to get a MEMBERSHIP SUBSCRIPTION merchant account right now...so these guys that I pay 15% will have to earn every dime of that money I pay them

You are 100% correct...They may not have to explain a damn thing to me, but I do not have to stop asking questions and posting data... people are being educated and starting to ask the same questions about form submits, weird denials, ratio swings,etc

Also I am not necessarily in need of merch account for subscriptions, I am in need of steady percentages like many of the polished ass kissers around here.

My percentages get steady, then I have no questions, but to tell me its normal to do 3 days double digit submits then 2 flat over and over and over again is as mike tyson would say....ludicrous

SwirlsGirl

fair enough Jakez I appreciate that, and I respect your input...maybe I am being paranoid...but maybe not, you say the numbers look normal, and you may be right...

just waiting for a few others to post very similiar form data and I would be willing to reconsider my position.