Why is this board obsessed with Paul Markham?

[Sabby]

This is the best place to pms

[you-big-dummy]

Originally Posted by Sabby

Once a month I get my period. I like to share it with you all.

The other 29 or 30 days you're passed the fuck out on the couch with a bottle of whiskey.

[Sabby]

No I work at least 200 hrs a month on cam still.

[Sabby]

And if I drink its wine

[Sabby]

I'm sure I make some of you money

[EukerVoorn]

I like Paul and I agree with a lot of things he writes and most other people on here are wannabe's who haven't achieved much and feel frustrated about that and therefor need someone weak to take out on preferably when he's not here to defend himself. The reason that most in here continue claiming that Paul is a trol is because they have no idea what he's talking about because they know nothing about content producing, old school porn distribution and business basics. This board would become a lot better if everybody who hasn't made at least a few tons in the porn biz so far would get expelled to a subforum for amateurs, and then in here we can continue discussions between the real professionals only. Or maybe set up different forums for affiliates and producers.

[TheSquealer]

I love when the deranged lunatic who looks like a serial killer and runs piss/scat sites while looking after his 16 cats weighs in to defend Paul.

[scarlettcontent]

old school legend!

[Sabby]

I like Paul. This board needs to chill. And look at who the real trolls are. They are nonames or notalents with several names. This is their stupid life you can't fight it you can just pity them.

[you-big-dummy]

Originally Posted by Sabby

I like Paul. This board needs to chill. And look at who the real trolls are. They are nonames or notalents with several names. This is their stupid life you can't fight it you can just pity them.

Common Sab. How many plastic surgeries did ya have?`` You use more bleach on your hair than Hulk Hogan. You're ass is always out clubbing looking for some cat to pay your damn bills.
Go sit your ass down over there in the corner.

[EukerVoorn]

Originally Posted by TheSquealer

I love when the deranged lunatic who looks like a serial killer and runs piss/scat sites while looking after his 16 cats weighs in to defend Paul.

You were one of the first losers I put on the ignore list in here. I just took you off because I forgot why I put you on that ignore list. Now I remember again; it's because you're boring. You're basically confirming what everybody already knows and nobody is denying. You simply don't have anything to add and nothing someone could learn from and you're also not funny. About my sites... I produce for more than 100 sites at the moment. Some are mine, some are of an Amsterdam based biz group I'm participating in and some are owned by other distributors. I produce DVD content as well. I'm not advertising my sites in here so the only sites you're aware of are those who were posted in here by others. Now here's the punchline, and the sad news for you; femanic.com and lezpoo.com both generate a few tons sales per year. You're in this biz to make money but you're not able to and out of boredom you try to make fun of people who actually are making money in this biz.

I'm not defending Paul. I'm just a mature person totally not caring about the opinion of a few dumb punks and shitting on your face if that is what it takes to shut you up and just posting in here what I think of Paul. I don't think Paul needs anyone defending him, he has enough life experience and courage to look after himself properly. I would love to see you in the condition he was in some years ago... I'll bet you would be crying for your mother 24/7.

And I'm not looking after my 16 cats. Me and my partner are looking after stray cats and cats dumbed by other irresponsible selfish egocentric people like you. Life's all about giving and taking. Some look after retarded people, others look after old demented people, we chose to look after dumped animals.

Back to my ignore list you useless piece of shit.

[porno jew]

Originally Posted by EukerVoorn

I'm not defending Paul. I'm just a mature person totally not caring about the opinion of a few dumb punks and shitting on your face ....

Back to my ignore list you useless piece of shit.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anal_expulsive

[EukerVoorn]

Nah it's just my limited English vocabulary. I try to curse and swear in English but shit is the only bad word I know really. Freud didn't make any sense, I tried to read one of his books once and he linked almost everything to tennis, but I never played tennis so I couldn't relate anything of his theories to myself.



Enjoy and Shalom my brother

[TheSquealer]

Originally Posted by EukerVoorn

And I'm not looking after my 16 cats. Me and my partner are looking after stray cats and cats dumbed by other irresponsible selfish egocentric people like you. Life's all about giving and taking. Some look after retarded people, others look after old demented people, we chose to look after dumped animals.

Back to my ignore list you useless piece of shit.

Dude.

You = look like a crazed homeless serial killer
You = run piss and scat sites
You = predictably collect stray cats

Nuff said.




PS... never been one to brag about income, even when i was pulling in 6 figures a month from adult. No point in it. Money comes and goes. Success comes and goes. If you make a lot of money with your "sites", good for you as long as its legal. Money is not success. Happiness in life is success. If you were truly happy, you would not care what anyone says. I only post here out of boredom and because i've been in this business almost since its very first online days.

[WarChild]

Personally I find intelligence attractive. In that light, Sabby, you're one of the ugliest people on the board.

[JFK]

Originally Posted by scarlettcontent

old school legend!

and new school GFY Troll of the Year

[DamianJ]

Originally Posted by Sabby

that is no way to treat a pretty lady.

You're neither.

[Double trouble]

Who is Paul Markham?

[JFK]

Originally Posted by DamianJ

You're neither.

[DamianJ]

Originally Posted by EukerVoorn

I like Paul and I agree with a lot of things he writes

Name three.

[SleazyDream]

honestly, it's cause most of Paul's hater's are crackheads.....

Is everything Paul says true, of course not. He often makes comments on other parts of his business he doesn't know much about. Now if Paul didn't have a successful past, it would end there. But Paul is a good content producer, with a HUGE client list including some of the most successful people in this industry. That cannot be disputed. And THAT pisses off the trolls! He's done very well for himself over dozens of decades now. He's a real name, he's someone in this game. Because he DOES actually know something about one aspect of this industry, (proven by his undisputed reasonable success) the fact that he expresses an opinion on other parts of this industry that arn't always spot on make him a target cause crackheads and trolls think if you're good in one area you have to be good in all areas, and if you error in comment about one area the trolls and crackheads think the rest of your work has to be wrong too.

then, because so many started doing it, it became the cool thing to do. Slam Paul=cool kid, everyone sides with you.

Kinda shows the intelligence of the people who slam him.....only idiots or jump on the bandwagon bullies tend to slam him outside of remarks to specific comments he makes that are relevant in a thread.

What I love about Paul though, is he stands up for himself. He keeps going.

Honestly, Paul's a good guy, he has good content at great prices and he's good to work with. Would I ask Paul to take the CEO position of CCbill or AFF? No. But that doesn't mean Paul isn't intelligent or does bad work.

[stocktrader23]

Originally Posted by SleazyDream

honestly, it's cause most of Paul's hater's are crackheads.....

Is everything Paul says true, of course not. He often makes comments on other parts of his business he doesn't know much about. Now if Paul didn't have a successful past, it would end there. But Paul is a good content producer, with a HUGE client list including some of the most successful people in this industry. That cannot be disputed. And THAT pisses off the trolls! He's done very well for himself over dozens of decades now. He's a real name, he's someone in this game. Because he DOES actually know something about one aspect of this industry, (proven by his undisputed reasonable success) the fact that he expresses an opinion on other parts of this industry that arn't always spot on make him a target cause crackheads and trolls think if you're good in one area you have to be good in all areas, and if you error in comment about one area the trolls and crackheads think the rest of your work has to be wrong too.

then, because so many started doing it, it became the cool thing to do. Slam Paul=cool kid, everyone sides with you.

Kinda shows the intelligence of the people who slam him.....only idiots or jump on the bandwagon bullies tend to slam him outside of remarks to specific comments he makes that are relevant in a thread.

What I love about Paul though, is he stands up for himself. He keeps going.

Honestly, Paul's a good guy, he has good content at great prices and he's good to work with. Would I ask Paul to take the CEO position of CCbill or AFF? No. But that doesn't mean Paul isn't intelligent or does bad work.

The areas of the industry that he doesn't understand he *really* doesn't understand. That isn't so bad in itself, it's that he presents his opinions as absolute fact. He does this even when arguing with say Shap about things Shap has been testing and refining for a decade. If he just posted an opinion nobody would really care. It's when he makes a claim, swears that he's right then reverts to his success as a producer to justify his ignorant stance on traffic or conversions or whatever.

I like Paul, he has me on ignore but I still like him. That has nothing to do with him being so blatantly wrong on several subject and I'm going to make fun of him when he does that same as I would a friend in real life.

[porno jew]

Originally Posted by SleazyDream

honestly, it's cause most of Paul's hater's are crackheads.....

Is everything Paul says true, of course not. He often makes comments on other parts of his business he doesn't know much about. Now if Paul didn't have a successful past, it would end there. But Paul is a good content producer, with a HUGE client list including some of the most successful people in this industry. That cannot be disputed. And THAT pisses off the trolls! He's done very well for himself over dozens of decades now. He's a real name, he's someone in this game. Because he DOES actually know something about one aspect of this industry, (proven by his undisputed reasonable success) the fact that he expresses an opinion on other parts of this industry that arn't always spot on make him a target cause crackheads and trolls think if you're good in one area you have to be good in all areas, and if you error in comment about one area the trolls and crackheads think the rest of your work has to be wrong too.

then, because so many started doing it, it became the cool thing to do. Slam Paul=cool kid, everyone sides with you.

Kinda shows the intelligence of the people who slam him.....only idiots or jump on the bandwagon bullies tend to slam him outside of remarks to specific comments he makes that are relevant in a thread.

What I love about Paul though, is he stands up for himself. He keeps going.

Honestly, Paul's a good guy, he has good content at great prices and he's good to work with. Would I ask Paul to take the CEO position of CCbill or AFF? No. But that doesn't mean Paul isn't intelligent or does bad work.

lol you are such a moron.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by *******

99% of guys on GFY will wish to have the life of Paul Markham when they get as old as he is Most people on GFY will not even get to his age anyway.

The vast majority of my haters are keyboard punchers and keyboard warriors. I meet them at shows and they're sweetness and light. Frightened of an old man?

Look at the haters signatures of the haters to see what most of them amount to. Whoops, most of them don't have a sig or just an affiliate trying to get other affiliates to sign up via them.

As for wishing they had my life, they couldn't handle it.

I also point out blatant bullshit. And people don't like that here.

Originally Posted by EukerVoorn

I like Paul and I agree with a lot of things he writes and most other people on here are wannabe's who haven't achieved much and feel frustrated about that and therefor need someone weak to take out on preferably when he's not here to defend himself. The reason that most in here continue claiming that Paul is a trol is because they have no idea what he's talking about because they know nothing about content producing, old school porn distribution and business basics. This board would become a lot better if everybody who hasn't made at least a few tons in the porn biz so far would get expelled to a subforum for amateurs, and then in here we can continue discussions between the real professionals only. Or maybe set up different forums for affiliates and producers.

Content production. It's a skill and one that if you're good can be very rewarding. Offline prices for content were awesome and if you did like I did "Cross the road to get to the other side." To sell your content in more markets doubly rewarding.

Old school porn distribution. The Internet is just a place to deliver porn, nothing more and nothing less. The same rules apply if it's on a tape or on a screen.

Business basics. Most here run one man bands from their living room. That's as far as their thinking goes. Nothing wrong with that, but it doesn't give the person a lot of "business basics".

Squealer is classic. His thread about coming here, meeting us, seeing us shoot, etc. Was a joke. He saw the staff we employed, saw the offices, saw the studio and assumed we were broke because we didn't have a big flash car or mansion. And we wold hand 1/3 of the studio over to shoot cheap sets for him. And most here believed him.

A man whose struggling, is kissing ass to get business. Hasn't got the expense of a studio, office and 8 staff.

A man whose doing well as lots of work to do, so he can maintain the turnover and isn't going to interrupt that by letting some cheap skate come in and take over 1/3 of his operation.

Mind you the whole scenario of flying girls from Russia to Czech to shoot cheap sets of them is bullshit. Well it is if you have a clue. Which few here have, so took him at his word.

[Jel]

Originally Posted by SleazyDream

honestly, it's cause most of Paul's hater's are crackheads.....

Is everything Paul says true, of course not. He often makes comments on other parts of his business he doesn't know much about. Now if Paul didn't have a successful past, it would end there. But Paul is a good content producer, with a HUGE client list including some of the most successful people in this industry. That cannot be disputed. And THAT pisses off the trolls! He's done very well for himself over dozens of decades now. He's a real name, he's someone in this game. Because he DOES actually know something about one aspect of this industry, (proven by his undisputed reasonable success) the fact that he expresses an opinion on other parts of this industry that arn't always spot on make him a target cause crackheads and trolls think if you're good in one area you have to be good in all areas, and if you error in comment about one area the trolls and crackheads think the rest of your work has to be wrong too.

then, because so many started doing it, it became the cool thing to do. Slam Paul=cool kid, everyone sides with you.

Kinda shows the intelligence of the people who slam him.....only idiots or jump on the bandwagon bullies tend to slam him outside of remarks to specific comments he makes that are relevant in a thread.

What I love about Paul though, is he stands up for himself. He keeps going.

Honestly, Paul's a good guy, he has good content at great prices and he's good to work with. Would I ask Paul to take the CEO position of CCbill or AFF? No. But that doesn't mean Paul isn't intelligent or does bad work.

[you-big-dummy]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Look at the haters signatures of the haters to see what most of them amount to. Whoops, most of them don't have a sig or just an affiliate trying to get other affiliates to sign up via them.

Common Paul. You destroyed your reputation bragging about tons of sign-ups when your sign-up page lead nowhere.

You lecture people on shit you have no clue of.
You deserve everything you get. Your credibility is shot kid!

[DamianJ]

Originally Posted by SleazyDream

honestly, it's cause most of Paul's hater's are crackheads.....

Is everything Paul says true, of course not. He often makes comments on other parts of his business he doesn't know much about. Now if Paul didn't have a successful past, it would end there. But Paul is a good content producer, with a HUGE client list including some of the most successful people in this industry. That cannot be disputed. And THAT pisses off the trolls! He's done very well for himself over dozens of decades now. He's a real name, he's someone in this game. Because he DOES actually know something about one aspect of this industry, (proven by his undisputed reasonable success) the fact that he expresses an opinion on other parts of this industry that arn't always spot on make him a target cause crackheads and trolls think if you're good in one area you have to be good in all areas, and if you error in comment about one area the trolls and crackheads think the rest of your work has to be wrong too.

then, because so many started doing it, it became the cool thing to do. Slam Paul=cool kid, everyone sides with you.

Kinda shows the intelligence of the people who slam him.....only idiots or jump on the bandwagon bullies tend to slam him outside of remarks to specific comments he makes that are relevant in a thread.

What I love about Paul though, is he stands up for himself. He keeps going.

Honestly, Paul's a good guy, he has good content at great prices and he's good to work with. Would I ask Paul to take the CEO position of CCbill or AFF? No. But that doesn't mean Paul isn't intelligent or does bad work.

that's funny! nice one! lol

[V_RocKs]

Age..... We have a death pool.

[epitome]

Originally Posted by SleazyDream

honestly, it's cause most of Paul's hater's are crackheads.....

Is everything Paul says true, of course not. He often makes comments on other parts of his business he doesn't know much about. Now if Paul didn't have a successful past, it would end there. But Paul is a good content producer, with a HUGE client list including some of the most successful people in this industry. That cannot be disputed. And THAT pisses off the trolls! He's done very well for himself over dozens of decades now. He's a real name, he's someone in this game. Because he DOES actually know something about one aspect of this industry, (proven by his undisputed reasonable success) the fact that he expresses an opinion on other parts of this industry that arn't always spot on make him a target cause crackheads and trolls think if you're good in one area you have to be good in all areas, and if you error in comment about one area the trolls and crackheads think the rest of your work has to be wrong too.

then, because so many started doing it, it became the cool thing to do. Slam Paul=cool kid, everyone sides with you.

Kinda shows the intelligence of the people who slam him.....only idiots or jump on the bandwagon bullies tend to slam him outside of remarks to specific comments he makes that are relevant in a thread.

What I love about Paul though, is he stands up for himself. He keeps going.

Honestly, Paul's a good guy, he has good content at great prices and he's good to work with. Would I ask Paul to take the CEO position of CCbill or AFF? No. But that doesn't mean Paul isn't intelligent or does bad work.

Its weird how you consistently defend the wrong people. You must be a horrible judge of character.

I also never knew you thought shap is a troll crackhead.

[Socks]

I can't speak for anyone else.

But for me, it's his legs.

[MarkDeus]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

The vast majority of my haters are keyboard punchers and keyboard warriors. I meet them at shows and they're sweetness and light. Frightened of an old man?

Look at the haters signatures of the haters to see what most of them amount to. Whoops, most of them don't have a sig or just an affiliate trying to get other affiliates to sign up via them.

As for wishing they had my life, they couldn't handle it.

I also point out blatant bullshit. And people don't like that here.



Content production. It's a skill and one that if you're good can be very rewarding. Offline prices for content were awesome and if you did like I did "Cross the road to get to the other side." To sell your content in more markets doubly rewarding.

Old school porn distribution. The Internet is just a place to deliver porn, nothing more and nothing less. The same rules apply if it's on a tape or on a screen.

Business basics. Most here run one man bands from their living room. That's as far as their thinking goes. Nothing wrong with that, but it doesn't give the person a lot of "business basics".

Squealer is classic. His thread about coming here, meeting us, seeing us shoot, etc. Was a joke. He saw the staff we employed, saw the offices, saw the studio and assumed we were broke because we didn't have a big flash car or mansion. And we wold hand 1/3 of the studio over to shoot cheap sets for him. And most here believed him.

A man whose struggling, is kissing ass to get business. Hasn't got the expense of a studio, office and 8 staff.

A man whose doing well as lots of work to do, so he can maintain the turnover and isn't going to interrupt that by letting some cheap skate come in and take over 1/3 of his operation.

Mind you the whole scenario of flying girls from Russia to Czech to shoot cheap sets of them is bullshit. Well it is if you have a clue. Which few here have, so took him at his word.

I was about to write" This thread is so awesome that the concerned person didn't even replied to it."

Originally Posted by DeanCapture

The only person obsessed with Paul Markham is Paul Markham. And of course the other trolls who are jealous because he won "GFY Troll Of The Year".

Most of the sane people here, or those with any common sense, have either put Paul on ignore or they simply pay him no attention.

You mean there is actually an award for Troll of the year? Where do I sign..

[CIVMatt]

I love naked girls that look like they were shot in the 80's

[Roald]

Originally Posted by Socks

I can't speak for anyone else.

But for me, it's his legs.

its the socks for me

damn player.

[Bryan G]

Originally Posted by Rochard

History.

He seems to think he knows everything about everyone, shoots crappy content, and then tells us about how well his new program was doing when the links to his join page didn't even work.

Seems ironic coming from you. You have a fucking comment about everything.

[TheSquealer]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Squealer is classic. His thread about coming here, meeting us, seeing us shoot, etc. Was a joke. He saw the staff we employed, saw the offices, saw the studio and assumed we were broke because we didn't have a big flash car or mansion. And we wold hand 1/3 of the studio over to shoot cheap sets for him. And most here believed him.

I saw a lunatic that was failing in a tiny little shithole of a studio which was unfinished in 04.... and as a result,trying to start tgps, paysites, having content blowouts for his super awesome content, trying to lease out his studios to others and who was admitting to winding his business down with Eva and her assistant shooting the majority of content. Even though at the time, you weren't exactly making that public. I see a guy who continued to license content to tube sites for cut rate prices because he had no choice, while lecturing non stop that tube sites were killing the business

By 05, you were here begging for money and your wife had to take a job as a cleaning woman to stay alive.

So... lets keep a little perspective on the alleged "success" of Paul Markham

[EukerVoorn]

Originally Posted by DamianJ

Name three.

Hello my friend Damian did you have a good weekend?

Here's three:

1) Adapt or die
2) How to light a set
3) Quality of content is more important than traffic

Edit: and in the end nobody knows who's right and who's wrong because the big boys who know it all and make a few millions per year aren't posting their secrets in there. I'm just saying that I agree with many things Paul writes. And if he writes something that doesn't make any sense, that only confirms he's just another confused human being.

[papill0n]

paul has no traffic and no clue how to generate it

he makes no affiliate sales, absolutely none

his content is worthless and nobody is buying it

that is all

[SleazyDream]

Originally Posted by epitome

Its weird how you consistently defend the wrong people. You must be a horrible judge of character.

I also never knew you thought shap is a troll crackhead.

umm, I know shap, met him and his wife many times. He's a good guy. And I know Paul, met him too many times. Not going to touch any argument between shap and paul, and I'm not going to say who was right and who was wrong. I don't know, not familiar with the disagreement. But because shap made more money in one niche area doesn't make shap right and an authority on everything, nor does decades of experience give paul any real insight into shap's business. If you don't understand that, then you're the idiot. Total and complete.

I doubt shap would jump on every thread unrelated to anything being discussed to hammer paul.... related topic yes. but what most crackhead trolls do when they keep hammering a topic unrelated to what';s being said again and again shows exactly just how fucked up they are.

[epitome]

Originally Posted by SleazyDream

umm, I know shap, met him and his wife many times. He's a good guy. And I know Paul, met him too many times. Not going to touch any argument between shap and paul, and I'm not going to say who was right and who was wrong. I don't know, not familiar with the disagreement. But because shap made more money in one niche area doesn't make shap right and an authority on everything, nor does decades of experience give paul any real insight into shap's business. If you don't understand that, then you're the idiot. Total and complete.

I doubt shap would jump on every thread unrelated to anything being discussed to hammer paul.... related topic yes. but what most crackhead trolls do when they keep hammering a topic unrelated to what';s being said again and again shows exactly just how fucked up they are.

Paul jumps on shap all of the time about things shap knows 1,000 times better than Paul.

While shap usually takes the high road, he's gotten tired of Pauls shit and Paul saying in a 10,000 word essay that shap doesn't know shit.

Shap isn't the only one Paul does that to but it is the best example.

[SleazyDream]

Originally Posted by epitome

Paul jumps on shap all of the time about things shap knows 1,000 times better than Paul.

While shap usually takes the high road, he's gotten tired of Pauls shit and Paul saying in a 10,000 word essay that shap doesn't know shit.

Shap isn't the only one Paul does that to but it is the best example.

reread what I said. I've never said Paul knows everything or is always right. I've also never said Paul doesn't often stick his nose where it doesn't belong. Paul's often wrong, but Paul also has a wealth of knowledge on content production and right or wrong, the things he talks about when speaking from his experience on that topic demand consideration just from his experience base if you have a brain, even if it's wrong. Shap wouldn't spend huge time responding to Paul if Paul didn't have that.

Just cause Paul is often wrong, doesn't mean he isn't right sometimes too. That's my point. Crackheads jump on Paul saying EVERYTHING he says is wrong. That's just stupid. Paul does say a LOT of intelligent things... sometimes you just have to look for it amongst 'other' material he writes about. Sometimes Paul is wrong, but sometimes Paul is spot on.

[Paul Markham]

This post high lights the ease it is to lie on a forum.

Originally Posted by epitome

Paul jumps on shap all of the time about things shap knows 1,000 times better than Paul.

While shap usually takes the high road, he's gotten tired of Pauls shit and Paul saying in a 10,000 word essay that shap doesn't know shit.

Shap isn't the only one Paul does that to but it is the best example.

Absolute bullshit.

I never criticised Shap about anything he knows more about than me. I criticised him on things I know more about than him. Content. He once said he was aiming at Penthouse and Playboy level. When I looked inside his site it was clear he was no where near it. Not even to the level of Club or Mayfair.

You don't build a site to compare with the top level by using shooters who have never been at that level.

I also pointed out out he could of got there without spending the money he thought it would need. By hiring an in house shooter who was that good, to sell his work online only in the site and offline to fund the content budget.

Now if you can find anything else I critised him on go for it and I will apologise. Otherwise I expect you to apologise to me.

********************

And this is the problem with forums.

I post after he sold to Manwin, that his content wasn't as good as people think. Then later in another post about funding content production how he and many others could of raised their members area to a new level, with absolutely no costs.

And Epitome makes untrue accusations about me critisising him about things he knows 1,000 times more than me. Well let him pt those posts up for all to see.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by you-big-dummy

Common Paul. You destroyed your reputation bragging about tons of sign-ups when your sign-up page lead nowhere.

You lecture people on shit you have no clue of.
You deserve everything you get. Your credibility is shot kid!

Yet the CCBILL link worked. I wasn't boasting of getting tons, I said I got some. Another example of the myth building.

My credibility was shot long before that thread.

It was shot when I said the content most were buying was crap, that giving away free porn wasn't the best way to sell porn. Well guess what.

[epitome]

Originally Posted by SleazyDream

reread what I said. I've never said Paul knows everything or is always right. I've also never said Paul doesn't often stick his nose where it doesn't belong. Paul's often wrong, but Paul also has a wealth of knowledge on content production and right or wrong, the things he talks about when speaking from his experience on that topic demand consideration just from his experience base if you have a brain, even if it's wrong. Shap wouldn't spend huge time responding to Paul if Paul didn't have that.

Just cause Paul is often wrong, doesn't mean he isn't right sometimes too. That's my point. Crackheads jump on Paul saying EVERYTHING he says is wrong. That's just stupid. Paul does say a LOT of intelligent things... sometimes you just have to look for it amongst 'other' material he writes about. Sometimes Paul is wrong, but sometimes Paul is spot on.

Personally, the problem I have with Paul is his ego. That is just something I dislike in people in general. I will call anybody out on that shit though as too many people have an ego that is larger than their accomplishments.

Using shap as another example... I like him because people know how successful he is but it isn't through his own cheerleading. He speaks as an authority on things he is an authority on and just speaks generally on things he is not. I've seem him say in so many words that he was wrong about something. I can't recall Paul ever admitting to being wrong.

Hell people say you have a huge ego but i've even seen you step down once you find out more info (mark Hurson threads). I think you've become much more tolerable because whether you'll admit it or not, you've learned that you're not invincible and don't have all of the answers. You own up to your mistakes, not try to spin and spin until people forget.

[Jakez]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Yet the CCBILL link worked. I wasn't boasting of getting tons, I said I got some. Another example of the myth building.

My credibility was shot long before that thread.

It was shot when I said the content most were buying was crap, that giving away free porn wasn't the best way to sell porn. Well guess what.

Of course giving away free porn is not the best way to sell porn. What a genius you are with such an obvious statement.

Giving away free porn is the best way to get traffic. And traffic means sales if you know how to convert it. The quality of content was not a problem. Today it is part of the problem.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by EukerVoorn

Hello my friend Damian did you have a good weekend?

Here's three:

1) Adapt or die
2) How to light a set
3) Quality of content is more important than traffic

1) Adapt or die
I have adapted "Crossed the road" in porn more times than most here. In fact the only reason I'm online is because I adapted from offline. Most here think adapting is adopting the latest way of giving away more free content.

2) How to light a set.
Pretty easy today with digital. so it amazes me when people get it wrong.

3) Quality of content is more important than traffic.
Yes, but if your job is only driving traffic and you think all porn is the same. Then it's hard to figure it out. Because to get decent sales you need to get 1,000s of hits to the sponsor and then 10,000 on your site.

Edit: and in the end nobody knows who's right and who's wrong because the big boys who know it all and make a few millions per year aren't posting their secrets in there. I'm just saying that I agree with many things Paul writes. And if he writes something that doesn't make any sense, that only confirms he's just another confused human being.

I sincerely believe there are few of them in online porn. The myth is that there are lots, yet even Lensman only got $9 million for his entire operation and him when sold to Playboy. A very nice sum. If he was making $2 million a year, then it seems small to me. And there's the problem, I have known people who do earn that much and their life style reflects it. Also when they think of business their approach is different to what I see online.

Yes there are a few who earn $2 million a year. But only a few. Probably Mallick did.

And as for not telling anyone how they do it. Well the moment they put it online the secret's out. And as online porn is home for copycats, their secrets are cloned by the lower rungs of the ladder.

For many the key to success was getting into the business in 1998, surviving, learning, adapting and making their fortune before free porn took over. No secrets.

[SleazyDream]

Originally Posted by epitome

Personally, the problem I have with Paul is his ego. That is just something I dislike in people in general. I will call anybody out on that shit though as too many people have an ego that is larger than their accomplishments.

Using shap as another example... I like him because people know how successful he is but it isn't through his own cheerleading. He speaks as an authority on things he is an authority on and just speaks generally on things he is not. I've seem him say in so many words that he was wrong about something. I can't recall Paul ever admitting to being wrong.

Hell people say you have a huge ego but i've even seen you step down once you find out more info (mark Hurson threads). I think you've become much more tolerable because whether you'll admit it or not, you've learned that you're not invincible and don't have all of the answers. You own up to your mistakes, not try to spin and spin until people forget.

not sure why you say I've learned I'm not invincible, I've always been like that.

thread from 2002 where I (actually) eat my hat cause I was wrong

https://gfy.com/showthread.php?p=974255#post974255

there's piles of other examples over the years where if someone shows proof I will change my opinion based on fact. It's actually easy to change my opinion, if you have FACTS, real facts that are credible. Personally I've always thought anyone who won't ever change their opinion based on new facts is an idiot.

[epitome]

Paul, the only problem with the above is you ignore Manwin, the biggest money maker in the biz that got that way by building traffic by giving away free porn. They entered the biz in I think it was 2006. The same year free video porn started taking off.

We can hate their methods all we want but we can't deny their success.

A huge part or shaps business, that resulted in millions in his pockets were tubes. Legal tubes even. Tubes that ended up being the single biggest affiliate for a lot of programs.

I know those facts get in the way of your argument but that doesn't mean they're not there for those who want to recognize the reality of things.

[epitome]

Originally Posted by SleazyDream

not sure why you say I've learned I'm not invincible, I've always been like that.

thread from 2002 where I (actually) eat my hat cause I was wrong

https://gfy.com/showthread.php?p=974255#post974255

there's piles of other examples over the years where if someone shows proof I will change my opinion based on fact. It's actually easy to change my opinion, if you have FACTS, real facts that are credible. Personally I've always thought anyone who won't ever change their opinion based on new facts is an idiot.

So Markham is an idiot?

J/K I get what you're saying.

[DamianJ]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Yet the CCBILL link worked.

Yet another example of how easy it is to lie on a message board.

Paul, we all know the links didn't work. And you got no sign ups. And yet you lied on boards saying you were getting loads of sign ups.

Give it up. You really have lost that argument man.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by epitome

Paul, the only problem with the above is you ignore Manwin, the biggest money maker in the biz that got that way by building traffic by giving away free porn. They entered the biz in I think it was 2006. The same year free video porn started taking off.

We can hate their methods all we want but we can't deny their success.

They took sales from other companies, many times turning 100 sales from other sites into only 50 on there's. Now if that's good long term business for the or the industry I'm a Dutchman. Because the one thing we have learned with online porn is we are good at teaching buyers, not to buy. They will get hit by the storm.

A huge part or shaps business, that resulted in millions in his pockets were tubes. Legal tubes even. Tubes that ended up being the single biggest affiliate for a lot of programs.

And I have never criticised him for running Tubes as an individual. I just feel escalating the amounts of free porn you supply to buyers destroys the aim, eventually. Never singled out Shap fr opening a Tube, in fact I can't remember me ever mentioning him having a Tube.

I know those facts get in the way of your argument but that doesn't mean they're not there for those who want to recognize the reality of things.

No the parts about Shap show you to be wrong or lying.