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quiet · 02-04-2003, 01:10 PM

would you retire (at least temporarily)?

Martin · 02-04-2003, 01:12 PM

I would retire for good.. I'd be out..

gothweb · 02-04-2003, 01:14 PM

Four million? I don't think I would retire right away. I don't think I am quite ready to do nothing yet... Give it a few years, and I might change my mind. It would sure make life easier, but I would still try to keep up my studies and even run my sites. I like to learn, and the creativity means a lot to me.

SleazyDream · 02-04-2003, 01:14 PM

if you retire you go from being a SOMEBODY in your business to SUDDENLY being a nobody.

reduce the amount of work you do - NEVER retire.

quiet · 02-04-2003, 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SleazyDream
if you retire you go from being a SOMEBODY in your business to SUDDENLY being a nobody.

reduce the amount of work you do - NEVER retire.

so obviously being SOMEONE in this business, is an important motivator for you.

there is more to life (in my opinion) than 'work'.

Fletch XXX · 02-04-2003, 01:16 PM

no.

id build a recording studio and hang out there all the time.

have a control room set up for webmaster shit, and live out my life doing what i like.

hanging out in recording studios, making noise and cashing checks.

gothweb · 02-04-2003, 01:16 PM

Maybe I should test my theory, though, come to think of it.

dantheman · 02-04-2003, 01:17 PM

I would buy this and cruise around for a while

Sly_RJ · 02-04-2003, 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet
would you retire (at least temporarily)?

Hell no.

Four million would be some great investment money. Real-estate, restaurants, etc...

Brujah · 02-04-2003, 01:18 PM

No. I think I'd keep posting about it all the time on message boards.

quiet · 02-04-2003, 01:18 PM

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Originally posted by Fletch XXX
no.

id build a recording studio and hang out there all the time.

have a control room set up for webmaster shit, and live out my life doing what i like.

hanging out in recording studios, making noise and cashing checks.

i should have said, retire from this industry.

hell if you have that sort of money there is never retirement, simply due to the mandatory investments you must continually be making and keeping track of.

Fletch XXX · 02-04-2003, 01:20 PM

in that case.

yes.

id be gone.

im only doing this to fuel my projects elsewhere anyway.

Jakke PNG · 02-04-2003, 01:20 PM

I wouldn't.
I would become bored really fast. I know it. Already I don't have to 'worry' about money really.. and I enjoy what I do. So if I'd get that amount of money the biz could become less serious for me.
Just like playing 'SimInternetPorn' by Sid Meiers.

I don't think I retire before I turn 40, no matter what happens. I'm a workaholic.

SleazyDream · 02-04-2003, 01:21 PM

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Originally posted by quiet

so obviously being SOMEONE in this business, is an important motivator for you.

there is more to life (in my opinion) than 'work'.

absolutly - no dispute there at all, on both statements. one isn't in conflict with the other. If you love what you do you never work a day in your life though..... I felt much like you do about the financial business - just wanted enough money to get out. In this business I don't fell like I've worked a day since I started, and I'm in front of the computer all day and night.... I LOVE what I do now.

I'm thinking that maybe you're in a mental/moral conflict with your career somehow?

[Labret] · 02-04-2003, 01:21 PM

Hell yeah I would be done.

CosmicKitten · 02-04-2003, 01:22 PM

being a rich nobody is all i have ever wanted to be...

give me fortune over fame anyday

extreme · 02-04-2003, 01:22 PM

I would go snowboard.

Raph · 02-04-2003, 01:23 PM

I'd do a job I really want to do and not worry about money ever

KRL · 02-04-2003, 01:23 PM

Hi Quiet,

I did the semi retire bit before I moved to Florida. Started playing golf everyday. Shopping like crazy. Bought a huge mansion. The cars, trips, etc.

I got so bored not doing business every day I couldn't stand it and hanging around with all these other guys that had nothing to do but count their money every day. And I quickly realized having to figure out what to do with all the free time was not making me happy at all.

Luckily the big quake came in Jan '94 and totally fucked up my world. The house got wrecked, we were just miles from the epicenter in the hills overlooking the valley. Some other business stuff I had went south. And I actually said thank you lord for having a lot of investments fucked up so I had the challenge again to start some new businesses to get back the money I had lost.

So no after my first retirement I said fuck this, I'm going to work everyday until my last breath. And its been great ever since, cause now I know the leisure life is not for me. I'm a workaholic and that's how I like it.

Once you win at the game of business, you realize its not the win that is the joy, its the anticpation from playing the game every day, and seeing if you will win lose or draw. That's the HIGH!

Wizzo · 02-04-2003, 01:24 PM

I would just be getting started....

Marcus · 02-04-2003, 01:25 PM

I'd keep working but only do the projects I want to do but dont have the cash for now.

Sly_RJ · 02-04-2003, 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet

i should have said, retire from this industry.

Well then, yeh, probably from this industry.

But I could never full out retire and do nothing all day. I like waking up knowing there's something I need to accomplish for the day.

Jakke PNG · 02-04-2003, 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Raph
I'd do a job I really want to do and not worry about money ever

4M wouldn't guarantee 'not worrying about money ever again'.
4M can be spent quite fucking fast I'd imagine.

KC · 02-04-2003, 01:26 PM

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Originally posted by dantheman
I would buy this and cruise around for a while

Nice boat.. I'd be all over that.. I'd like to learn how to sail and cross an ocean someday. I think it would be a blast.

Bobo · 02-04-2003, 01:26 PM

I'd donate it to charity.

Jakke PNG · 02-04-2003, 01:27 PM

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Originally posted by Bobo
I'd donate it to charity.

bullshit.

KC · 02-04-2003, 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TeenGodFather

4M wouldn't guarantee 'not worrying about money ever again'.
4M can be spent quite fucking fast I'd imagine.

4M is a lot of money.. One could easily live out their life never working again. It's all about the lifestyle they'd be able to support with 4M.

FATPad · 02-04-2003, 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TeenGodFather

4M wouldn't guarantee 'not worrying about money ever again'.
4M can be spent quite fucking fast I'd imagine.

Quiet doesn't seem like the type to blow through 4 million.

I could be wrong though...he just doesn't strike me like that. A few toys, yea. A few trips, yea. 12 houses, 18 cars, and all sorts of shit to blow through that kind of money in a hurry...no.

Thumbelina · 02-04-2003, 01:30 PM

My life is pretty choice now..........
I would keep doing what I am doing for the fun and exitement of it all............

The only thing I would do is buy into the company a little more....sort of paying back to my partner all that he has given to me and my family.

Of course there would be more toys and vacations.......and

PEACE OF MIND

SNOW · 02-04-2003, 01:30 PM

1. I would invest 1 million on a apartment complex in a good area.

2. I would buy 3 Mcdonald franchises.

3. Use the rest of the money to travel and experience life.

You can hire Managers to handle both jobs and youre 4 million would make you a multi millionare in about 5 years and you would have a NASTY ASS SOLID income coming in for the rest of your dam life.

kaylacam · 02-04-2003, 01:32 PM

I would continue working but invest the money,use the dividends to manage my own Animal Rescue ... ok, Jimmy3way, come bash me for THAT!

heh

KC · 02-04-2003, 01:32 PM

Lawrence from OfficeSpace would do two chicks at once.

nocostporn · 02-04-2003, 01:33 PM

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Originally posted by Brujah
No. I think I'd keep posting about it all the time on message boards.

I got it

quiet · 02-04-2003, 01:34 PM

i love how you can start a thread sometimes, and it take on a life of it's own

Quote:

Originally posted by TeenGodFather

4M wouldn't guarantee 'not worrying about money ever again'.
4M can be spent quite fucking fast I'd imagine.

this is always something i think about, especially when i see many of the posts on gfy. people with massive homes, pools, cars.

it would make most people laugh how much i spend a month, it's pretty minimal.

anyway, i was just curious how much is enough for someone to leave a industry they may (or may not) enjoy, to pursue other interests. before this, i was planning on university, then teaching/research for the rest of my life. how things change lol

SleazyDream · 02-04-2003, 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TeenGodFather

4M wouldn't guarantee 'not worrying about money ever again'.
4M can be spent quite fucking fast I'd imagine.

in the financial business 5-7 years ago I found that the high end clients I dealt with didn't really start to FEEL rich till they had about 10 million US - in today's dollars that would be closer to about 15 million US in reasonabily liquid assets.

at about the 4 million mark most felt they were just getting going..........

that's not an insult quiet, but some insite from someone who dealt with many people in that income range from a variety of occupations/careers/businesses. There's a million ways to make a million bucks in a million different industries. The one thing I found across the board was that most were more intertested in the power (defined in many ways of course) than the cash in what they did though.....being someone meant more than being rich.

I'm thinking you're idea of being 'someone' is being retired and being able to tell people that. You're 'STASTIS SYMBOL" so to say. The problem is most people socialize up - so you might end up hanging with more successful retired people and feel the need to go back to work to get some more money to measure up.

The thing about being someone not that there's people beneth you, that's part of it, but that's there's also people ABOVE you that you can use as a motivator to become more than what you are today.

ok, enough philisophy for today.

Cheshire · 02-04-2003, 01:35 PM

I'd be so happy not being f*cked and bouncing 7 checks that I'd probably cry.

quiet · 02-04-2003, 01:35 PM

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Originally posted by nocostporn

I got it

your finger is on the pulse, no doubt.

dantheman · 02-04-2003, 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KC

Nice boat.. I'd be all over that.. I'd like to learn how to sail and cross an ocean someday. I think it would be a blast.

That's what I'm working for, island hopping

gornyhuy · 02-04-2003, 01:37 PM

4 million of course is already multi-millions. He hehe.

Anyway, no question about it, I would retire immediately. But by retire I mean do "soul-work" not "money work"... in other words, travel, perform music, take up more art, spend a lot more family time, work out incessantly, or just meditate on a beach somewhere, and let my money manage itself just ahead of inflation to keep me at that level of carefree wealth but no more.

Or, hand over the daily operations of your entire business to a trusted partner, give them 75%, and have your 25% wired into accounts all over the world so you don't have to schweat it.

But before you go, PLEASE tell me exactly what to do so that I have your problem. then hold my hand and help me do it. Come on quiet... PLEASE.

Bobo · 02-04-2003, 01:39 PM

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Originally posted by SNOW

2. I would buy 3 Mcdonald franchises.

Didn't you hear? Mcdonalds closed 300+ outlets recently.

Jakke PNG · 02-04-2003, 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KC

4M is a lot of money.. One could easily live out their life never working again. It's all about the lifestyle they'd be able to support with 4M.

True true.
But let's be honest. If a guy isn't used to having a LOT of money. He would buy stuff.. a LOT of stuff. Sure it would take years to spend the money but in no way impossible at all. Buy a damn nice house, car(s) big-ass-screen tv's oriental rugs.. all the comforts of a modern society and the money is gone.

The option is to NOT buy a new house, maybe buy a nice car and put rest of the money into bonds or just a high-intrest bank account and live relatively comfortably off the intrests. In finland you cna get up to 4%/yearly intrest on money that's in a bank account (or more for private deals on private banks). That's a nice sum if you manage to put let's say 3M in the bank.

4%/year on 3M = 120k/year = 10k/month - taxes (in finland 29% on capital profit).
So out of the 3M in the bank you'd get 85200/year tax free cash to spend on shit. Which equals 7100$ per month, in finland. That's enough money to live very nicely here (the average pay is around 2-3k/month).

But I wouldn't be happy with that.

quiet · 02-04-2003, 01:40 PM

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Originally posted by SleazyDream
so you might end up hanging with more successful retired people and feel the need to go back to work to get some more money to measure up.

The thing about being someone not that there's people beneth you, that's part of it, but that's there's also people ABOVE you that you can use as a motivator to become more than what you are today. [/B]

that actually made me laugh. all my friends are either snowboarders, or graduate level university students.

i've never truly known anyone who has more than a couple thousand dollars in their bank account (does it show?)...

Amputate Your Head · 02-04-2003, 01:41 PM

i would buy ALOT of tacos and pizzas....

Interlude · 02-04-2003, 01:41 PM

4 million is about $240,000 per year in tax-free income if invested conservatively in bonds. Figure that translates to a regular taxable salary of $400,000 per year.

Certainly that's a lot of money, and you'd never have to work again if you didn't want to. However, it's not the kind of dough to be living the rico suave lifestyle - no huge boats, no insane mansions and summer homes, etc.

However, if you're not into that sort of shit (once you meet the sorts of people who ARE, you'll want to go back to work) then it's great - you can take a low paying, low pressure job doing something you really enjoy, or maybe do some good in the world.

Gary · 02-04-2003, 01:41 PM

I would spend it all buying sleazydream.com and finally be elite. Sweet

Bobo · 02-04-2003, 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SleazyDream

in the financial business 5-7 years ago I found that the high end clients I dealt with didn't really start to FEEL rich till they had about 10 million US - in today's dollars that would be closer to about 15 million US in reasonabily liquid assets.

at about the 4 million mark most felt they were just getting going..........

There's a bank in downtown New York that will only allow you to open an account with $10 million US. Maybe they didn't feel elite enough with $4 million because of that.

.:Frog:. · 02-04-2003, 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TeenGodFather

4M wouldn't guarantee 'not worrying about money ever again'.
4M can be spent quite fucking fast I'd imagine.

I've heard many of those "riches to rags" stories. If I had the money I'd probably put it in term deposit or bonds and just live off the interest.
That way you have a yearly income of around 250K for the rest of your life, and when you die the money is still intact and could go to family or some charity.

SNOW · 02-04-2003, 01:44 PM

Quiet have you ever hit MT-Hood?? One of the most beautiful places I have ever boarded.

quiet · 02-04-2003, 01:44 PM

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Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
i would buy ALOT of tacos and pizzas....

don't forget the little burgers...

iroc409 · 02-04-2003, 01:44 PM

i would use it to conitnue building my "empire" of other sorts... my auto shop, real estate, etc etc. i couldn't retire until i am well over the hill... i'd be bored too

02-04-2003, 01:10 PM	#1
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Fletch XXX GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: that 504 Posts: 60,840	no. id build a recording studio and hang out there all the time. have a control room set up for webmaster shit, and live out my life doing what i like. hanging out in recording studios, making noise and cashing checks.

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Jakke PNG ex-TeenGodFather Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Suomi Finland Perkele Posts: 20,306	I wouldn't. I would become bored really fast. I know it. Already I don't have to 'worry' about money really.. and I enjoy what I do. So if I'd get that amount of money the biz could become less serious for me. Just like playing 'SimInternetPorn' by Sid Meiers. I don't think I retire before I turn 40, no matter what happens. I'm a workaholic. __________________ ..and I'm off.

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02-04-2003, 01:23 PM	#19
KRL Entrepreneur Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA Posts: 31,429	Hi Quiet, I did the semi retire bit before I moved to Florida. Started playing golf everyday. Shopping like crazy. Bought a huge mansion. The cars, trips, etc. I got so bored not doing business every day I couldn't stand it and hanging around with all these other guys that had nothing to do but count their money every day. And I quickly realized having to figure out what to do with all the free time was not making me happy at all. Luckily the big quake came in Jan '94 and totally fucked up my world. The house got wrecked, we were just miles from the epicenter in the hills overlooking the valley. Some other business stuff I had went south. And I actually said thank you lord for having a lot of investments fucked up so I had the challenge again to start some new businesses to get back the money I had lost. So no after my first retirement I said fuck this, I'm going to work everyday until my last breath. And its been great ever since, cause now I know the leisure life is not for me. I'm a workaholic and that's how I like it. Once you win at the game of business, you realize its not the win that is the joy, its the anticpation from playing the game every day, and seeing if you will win lose or draw. That's the HIGH! __________________ If you would like to develop your domains, you can lease inexpensive foreign labor from the leaders in the field at iWebmasters.com TO LOWER YOUR COSTS AND INCREASE YOUR PRODUCTION! * * * * * * * * * * * * Domains Adult News KRL's Newsletter Biz Tips Just Listed Domains Last edited by KRL; 02-04-2003 at 01:28 PM..

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gornyhuy Chafed. Join Date: May 2002 Location: Face Down in Pussy Posts: 18,041	4 million of course is already multi-millions. He hehe. Anyway, no question about it, I would retire immediately. But by retire I mean do "soul-work" not "money work"... in other words, travel, perform music, take up more art, spend a lot more family time, work out incessantly, or just meditate on a beach somewhere, and let my money manage itself just ahead of inflation to keep me at that level of carefree wealth but no more. Or, hand over the daily operations of your entire business to a trusted partner, give them 75%, and have your 25% wired into accounts all over the world so you don't have to schweat it. But before you go, PLEASE tell me exactly what to do so that I have your problem. then hold my hand and help me do it. Come on quiet... PLEASE. __________________ icq:159548293

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