Interesting comments on ICM/.xxx and its payment system... - GoFuckYourself.com

u-Bob · 11-30-2011, 05:24 PM

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Paul:

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@Michael H. Berkens

?the micropayment system ICM has planned will be a huge advantage to adult sites.?

We disagree with that. That micropayment system is actually the reason we (me and my partners) decided to stay away from dotxxx.

To be honest, we never really liked ICM Registry. They would say one thing and then do another. A lot of people I respect in this industry were against dotxxx and their opinion certainly matters to me.

But in the end, we?re here to make money. So while we did not support dotxxx we did decide to buy the dotxxx versions of 10 of our main domains. Until we found mentions of this mystical new micropayment system. I say ?mystical? because ICM has been talking about it for a long time, but no one has ever seen it or knows what it?s capable of or how it is even supposed to benefit us.

One of the first online lessons I learned (the hard way) back in 98 was: Don?t let your hosting company register your domain names for you. If you later decide to change hosting companies, your old host could get pissed off and hold your domains hostage.

We see similar potential problems with dotxxx and its micropayment system. It?s safe to assume that ICM will want to make money off of that payment system. They?ll probably charge a transaction fee (like Paypal or Paxum does right now). ICM thus has a reason to encourage people to use their new micropayment system. If more people use it, ICM makes more money. If more webmasters add it to their sites, ICM makes more money.

And that?s where the potential problem lies. Dotxxx is not just another TLD. It?s a TLD with rules and regulations. Rules and regulations all dotxxx domain owners have to abide by. Rules and regulations that are created by IFFOR and ICM.

What if we now invest our money in buying and promoting dotxxx domains and 2 years from now ICM decides that only their micropayment system is allowed on dotxxx sites? Do we really want one and the same company to control our domain names and our processing? Hell no.

So in the end we decided that we won?t be buying any dotxxx domain names. Dotxxx is too risky to be used for a main site and too expensive to be used as feeder sites.

If .porn and .sex ever get approved and the prices are reasonable (comparable with .com domain names) and there are no silly (or risky) rules attached to it, we will certainly be buying those.

BigJim:

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My issue is with IFFOR, ICM?s policing arm. The power these business owners are giving away when buying these incredibly over priced domains is absolutely ridiculous. Any business owner who would give a third party that kind of power over how they run their company is one that does not read the fine print or one that ignores the potential for rampant, money grabbing abuse by a company that has already proven to be shady as all get out to have their way.

Why · 11-30-2011, 05:32 PM

bump back up to the top. POS ICM!

CyberHustler · 11-30-2011, 05:37 PM

davecummings · 11-30-2011, 05:42 PM

Scary.

I notified icm many months ago not to allow registrations using my Trademarked name (i.e., Dave Cummings); if they do, I will initiate legal actions against icm and involved others.

Yes, I have printed out the emails back and forth with icm about my TM, so they can't say in Court that they were not aware of the TM, or my "notice" to them.

11-30-2011, 05:42 PM	#4
davecummings Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: San Diego Posts: 2,922	Scary. I notified icm many months ago not to allow registrations using my Trademarked name (i.e., Dave Cummings); if they do, I will initiate legal actions against icm and involved others. Yes, I have printed out the emails back and forth with icm about my TM, so they can't say in Court that they were not aware of the TM, or my "notice" to them. __________________ Dave Cummings www.davecummings.com www.davecummings.tv San Diego Email--- [email protected]

11-30-2011, 05:32 PM	#2
Why MFBA Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: PNW Posts: 7,230	bump back up to the top. POS ICM!

11-30-2011, 05:37 PM	#3
CyberHustler So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 25,214