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digi · 12-05-2011, 09:58 AM

Playboy has some of the most amazing content so why do their sites suck? Why isn't there a celebrity tour, a vintage tour, deep linking to models, classic pictorials, why can't we promote playboy.com which is the best site? why? whyyyyy?

Wizzo · 12-05-2011, 10:05 AM

lack of knowledge on how the modern internets work...

Vendzilla · 12-05-2011, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Wizzo

lack of knowledge on how the modern internets work...

Wow, you're being nice. And I "know" you "know" why.

wehateporn · 12-05-2011, 11:18 AM

Some would see that as an opportunity!

Anyhow, they've just been taken over, so expect big changes

Playboy are one of my best

Wizzo · 12-05-2011, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla

Wow, you're being nice. And I "know" you "know" why.

Its play nice monday...

Overload · 12-05-2011, 01:14 PM

they also dont add fhgs frequently ... still have $80 there but i wont move a finger to put anything up to promote them ... no more ... doesnt convert for me so why bother?

Roald · 12-05-2011, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Wizzo

lack of knowledge on how the modern internets work...

This.

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Shap · 12-05-2011, 01:28 PM

I think often times when content (especially the same content) is spun off into new mediums to try to make extra money those properties often aren't as good as the original brand/product. The priority was never having a great web presence imo. You can't expect to give something second rate attention and produce first rate results.

DWB · 12-05-2011, 02:40 PM

I stopped looking at Playboy when I was in the 8th grade. Sure I'm not the only one.

LeRoy · 12-05-2011, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DWB

I stopped looking at Playboy when I was in the 8th grade. Sure I'm not the only one.

anexsia · 12-05-2011, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DWB

I stopped looking at Playboy when I was in the 8th grade. Sure I'm not the only one.

Major (Tom) · 12-05-2011, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DWB

I stopped looking at Playboy when I was in the 8th grade. Sure I'm not the only one.

this
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icymelon · 12-05-2011, 04:08 PM

its pretty sad I always thought what a waste

Vendzilla · 12-05-2011, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Wizzo

Its play nice monday...

I'm trying to be nice all the time now, then I go home and kick the dog

porno jew · 12-05-2011, 04:16 PM

seriously who the hell has twisted one off to playboy for in last 20 years?

their stuff is corny as fuck.

Mutt · 12-05-2011, 04:26 PM

the Playboy.com site is pretty nice from what I remember - it's the other niche ones they have based on their Special Editions mags that look cheesey.

Playboy still has a ton of fresh girls that nobody else does, a lot of girls will only do a nude shoot for Playboy. They use a lot of different photogs, some are good, some not so good. A lot of their content is cliched now.

ArsewithClass · 12-05-2011, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by porno jew

seriously who the hell has twisted one off to playboy for in last 20 years?

their stuff is corny as fuck.

I've never twisted one off to playboy, when younger, German DP & DP2, 3 etc

corny, no, porn, no, glamour, yes

wehateporn · 12-05-2011, 04:36 PM

There are ways of making Playboy convert like it's 2005, you've just got to use your imagination with it

wehateporn · 12-05-2011, 04:48 PM

These are my Playboy stats for the end of November, notice no referral link from me, just honestly giving credit where it's due for their excellent conversion ratio. Those conversion ratios show what is possible if you get it right. If you put a bit of creativity into promoting Playboy, at $1 to sign up for 2 days, you get paid $35 PPS, you can do very well.

Far-L · 12-05-2011, 05:02 PM

imo, has more to do with the ironic conflict that results from producing a nudie mag that uses sex appeal to sell itself but doesn't see itself as being porn at all and in fact has at times even expressed disdain at the rest of the sex industry.

Some very intelligent people have worked there over the years and tried to get through that conflict and failed and that is because Hef convinced himself long ago that it was more about the brand and the notion that everyone actually really did want to read the articles more than anything else.

Considering how much they make on just the brand and in non-porn markets you can't blame him.

Smart move though to finally realize that the "adult" side of the Playboy brand (at least online) could and should be licensed as well and that they went with Manwin since they obviously seem to have a clue in that department...

firequartz · 12-07-2011, 09:57 AM

Manwin took over the Playboy/RealityCash sites a few months ago. All I know is that they're late on last pay period's checks.

Oh yea .. and they don't respond to emails either.

seeandsee · 12-07-2011, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn

There are ways of making Playboy convert like it's 2005, you've just got to use your imagination with it

this

wehateporn · 12-07-2011, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by firequartz

Manwin took over the Playboy/RealityCash sites a few months ago. All I know is that they're late on last pay period's checks.

Oh yea .. and they don't respond to emails either.

They must be busy switching everything over. I've found them really helpful on email (Brian Tassillo)

firequartz · 12-07-2011, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn

They must be busy switching everything over. I've found them really helpful on email (Brian Tassillo)

I've sent Brian and Ivo several eMails over the last couple of weeks. I've yet to get a response.

RandyD · 12-07-2011, 10:11 AM

They convert no worse (or better) than any other hardcore sponsor with the right traffic. Always paid on time here.

edgeprod · 12-07-2011, 10:24 AM

This is all, of course, my opinion, so take it as such.

Playboy is a funny company, in that it's almost "upside down" in terms of technology. In most companies, technology directives flow down from the top. Look at Facebook, Zynga, etc. In some companies, such as Google, technology directives flow down from the top, but interesting technology suggestions also percolate back up from the engineers.

In Playboy's case, however, bright ideas are suppressed by a hostile and borderline incompetent layer of management that reaches into the top levels of the organization. Innovation is stifled, and just "keeping up" with the current state of the industry becomes a struggle for them.

Remember that at BEST they were led somewhat astray about the Reality Cash numbers and prospects. This probably soured the company on the affiliate model, especially after lackluster performance proceeded the acquisition.

Without Lensman actively pushing, and with much of the real talent having left the building (with a few very notable exceptions), it's probably tough to do much of anything but tread water.

12-05-2011, 09:58 AM	#1
digi Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: ON, Canada Posts: 1,314	why do thy Playboy sites suck? Playboy has some of the most amazing content so why do their sites suck? Why isn't there a celebrity tour, a vintage tour, deep linking to models, classic pictorials, why can't we promote playboy.com which is the best site? why? whyyyyy? __________________

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Shap Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 8,313	I think often times when content (especially the same content) is spun off into new mediums to try to make extra money those properties often aren't as good as the original brand/product. The priority was never having a great web presence imo. You can't expect to give something second rate attention and produce first rate results.

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porno jew Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 10,166	seriously who the hell has twisted one off to playboy for in last 20 years? their stuff is corny as fuck.

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Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	the Playboy.com site is pretty nice from what I remember - it's the other niche ones they have based on their Special Editions mags that look cheesey. Playboy still has a ton of fresh girls that nobody else does, a lot of girls will only do a nude shoot for Playboy. They use a lot of different photogs, some are good, some not so good. A lot of their content is cliched now. __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

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wehateporn Promoting Debate on GFY Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 27,173	There are ways of making Playboy convert like it's 2005, you've just got to use your imagination with it __________________ Sexy Girls Teasing

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wehateporn Promoting Debate on GFY Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 27,173	These are my Playboy stats for the end of November, notice no referral link from me, just honestly giving credit where it's due for their excellent conversion ratio. Those conversion ratios show what is possible if you get it right. If you put a bit of creativity into promoting Playboy, at $1 to sign up for 2 days, you get paid $35 PPS, you can do very well. __________________ Sexy Girls Teasing

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Far-L Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Seattle Posts: 6,075	Playboy and Homegrown? Truth is stranger than fiction! imo, has more to do with the ironic conflict that results from producing a nudie mag that uses sex appeal to sell itself but doesn't see itself as being porn at all and in fact has at times even expressed disdain at the rest of the sex industry. Some very intelligent people have worked there over the years and tried to get through that conflict and failed and that is because Hef convinced himself long ago that it was more about the brand and the notion that everyone actually really did want to read the articles more than anything else. Considering how much they make on just the brand and in non-porn markets you can't blame him. Smart move though to finally realize that the "adult" side of the Playboy brand (at least online) could and should be licensed as well and that they went with Manwin since they obviously seem to have a clue in that department... __________________ HomegrownCash.com, the affiliate program of Homegrown Video - The Largest Collection of Amateur XXX - Est. 1982. Contact - Email: farrell AT homegrownvideo D com Skype: hgfarl Newsweek Magazine - "Homegrown Video, the longest running series in the history of porn."

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firequartz Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 125	Manwin took over the Playboy/RealityCash sites a few months ago. All I know is that they're late on last pay period's checks. Oh yea .. and they don't respond to emails either. __________________ -fQ- modelswelove.com foxynetbabes.com xwebgirls.com adultvideolocker.com bunnyhoneys.com penthousehoneys.com Last edited by firequartz; 12-07-2011 at 09:59 AM..

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12-07-2011, 10:24 AM	#26
edgeprod Permanently Gone Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 10,019	This is all, of course, my opinion, so take it as such. Playboy is a funny company, in that it's almost "upside down" in terms of technology. In most companies, technology directives flow down from the top. Look at Facebook, Zynga, etc. In some companies, such as Google, technology directives flow down from the top, but interesting technology suggestions also percolate back up from the engineers. In Playboy's case, however, bright ideas are suppressed by a hostile and borderline incompetent layer of management that reaches into the top levels of the organization. Innovation is stifled, and just "keeping up" with the current state of the industry becomes a struggle for them. Remember that at BEST they were led somewhat astray about the Reality Cash numbers and prospects. This probably soured the company on the affiliate model, especially after lackluster performance proceeded the acquisition. Without Lensman actively pushing, and with much of the real talent having left the building (with a few very notable exceptions), it's probably tough to do much of anything but tread water.