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Old 12-09-2011, 07:10 AM   #101
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Old 12-09-2011, 07:21 AM   #102
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but guess what everybody is registering multiple domains !
guess what, yer full of shit.

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Yeah i would like to know who owns the top domains !

I got a fucking good idea about it ....

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Best to read what people are posting before you comment. It goes some way to stopping you from looking completely stoopid. Although I should imagine that is a tall order in your case.......
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They took the top domains and when you check the whois you get one of these 2 messages:
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They took the top domains and when you check the whois you get one of these 2 messages:
Reserved by ICM Registry for Premium Generic Domain Names Program.
For more information please contact: [email protected].
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There were approximately 1k common word, generic premium names reserved by ICM Registry, which is significantly LESS than the usual 5k or so reserved by most new TLD's. Some of those we will be developing as search/traffic/resource portals. The vast majority of them however, we would like to see developed and we encourage people to contact us with development ideas.

Anything that is showing as being in an auction would be from Landrush, and those are closed auctions only between the people that bid for the name during that phase of launch, not an open auction.
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Old 12-09-2011, 12:23 PM   #107
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They are paying millions to brand .xxx and when you type one of the domains in you go to one of their properties or a negotiated leased property.

No "regfee" scores to be had.
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There were approximately 1k common word, generic premium names reserved by ICM Registry, which is significantly LESS than the usual 5k or so reserved by most new TLD's. Some of those we will be developing as search/traffic/resource portals. The vast majority of them however, we would like to see developed and we encourage people to contact us with development ideas.

Anything that is showing as being in an auction would be from Landrush, and those are closed auctions only between the people that bid for the name during that phase of launch, not an open auction.
Can that reserve list be found any where?
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I belive that .tv did the same thing when that tld came out. All the good generic terms were sold on auction.
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Can that reserve list be found any where?
No, but Smokey created a nifty little tool during Landrush and published many of them in various threads.
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I belive that .tv did the same thing when that tld came out. All the good generic terms were sold on auction.
The difference is that while some of these domains will go to auction, we really want to see them developed with great new ideas. If you have a plan for something exciting and innovative that will blow our minds and knock our socks off, so to speak, and the ability to make it happen, it's possible that we'll allocate a premium domain for the same nominal fee as a domain purchased during General Availability from a registrar.
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Can that reserve list be found any where?


If you got zone file access you could figure it out.

But it appears the zone files are being treated as top secret, despite their agreement with ICANN.
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The difference is that while some of these domains will go to auction, we really want to see them developed with great new ideas. If you have a plan for something exciting and innovative that will blow our minds and knock our socks off, so to speak, please contact me with all the info so that we can steal your idea.

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Directnic has since written me and apologized and took the blame, saying they simply could not secure them for me. I feel like they are blowing smoke up my ass because I don't understand why they would send a confirmation email and "award" them to me if the domains were not secured in the first place. You'd think they would have the process down by now regardless of the tld. We have over 200 domains with them and have never had a single issue with them until now.
DWB same thing has now happened to me, logged into my account today and both .xxx domains are saying Registration Failed in red. That's a few days after registering them so this could well be an issue with DirectNIC

As long as DirectNIC issue a refund for the domains and WHOIS privacy I'm not that bothered TBH
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Old 12-09-2011, 04:01 PM   #116
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Best to look around you for a reality check genius, you're in the wrong arena.
Read what people are saying and how they are replying, many in this thread are NOT buying into the .XXX game.

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I fixed that for you.
We aren't in the content business. This sort of opportunity however, (which is real business, with real contracts that include real mutual NDA's) could be fantastic for someone who has a really innovative idea, to spotlight that idea in a way they might otherwise not be able to. To that end, I'll continue to invite people to approach us with exemplary ideas.
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We aren't in the content business. This sort of opportunity however, (which is real business, with real contracts that include real mutual NDA's) could be fantastic for someone who has a really innovative idea, to spotlight that idea in a way they might otherwise not be able to. To that end, I'll continue to invite people to approach us with exemplary ideas.
If you had of been smart instead of greedy with your new TLD you would have approached all the biggest companies in adult and gave away all the best domains for free and charged $10 per domain like most other TLDs.

Then a lot of the bigger companies, tubes etc would have considered rebranding to .xxx and within a year surfers would type .xxx for many of the biggest sites in the world.

You would have made more money in the long run if you hadn't turned this industry against you
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If you had of been smart instead of greedy with your new TLD you would have approached all the biggest companies in adult and gave away all the best domains for free and charged $10 per domain like most other TLDs.

Then a lot of the bigger companies, tubes etc would have considered rebranding to .xxx and within a year surfers would type .xxx for many of the biggest sites in the world.

You would have made more money in the long run if you hadn't turned this industry against you
There is no chance they would have made more money at $10 domains, not one. Adult is a fraction of the internet, a very small fraction. They could sell domains to every single company / webmaters / etc and wouldn't come close to getting rid of as many names as an extension that is mainstream friendly. $100 is not that much money, big companies don't need $100 handouts and webmasters that actually work on their business don't either.
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There is no chance they would have made more money at $10 domains, not one. Adult is a fraction of the internet, a very small fraction. They could sell domains to every single company / webmaters / etc and wouldn't come close to getting rid of as many names as an extension that is mainstream friendly. $100 is not that much money, big companies don't need $100 handouts and webmasters that actually work on their business don't either.
Ok fair point about the money aspect

I still think giving some of the best domains away to the biggest companies could have worked out better for them than their current strategy.

You're right that big companies don't need $100 handouts but if I had a massive site in adult and .xxx approached me saying they'd give me a great 3 or 4 letter domain related to my niche I'd consider rebranding.

Will be interesting to see how things will have played out in a years time
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Time will tell for sure. What I'm worried about is their launch strategy of promoting it as the place to put adult to keep it away from those not interested. If they have enough money to pay off the right people then mandatory .xxx is a real possibility.
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Time will tell for sure. What I'm worried about is their launch strategy of promoting it as the place to put adult to keep it away from those not interested. If they have enough money to pay off the right people then mandatory .xxx is a real possibility.
I agree, that would be bad news for everyone in adult

It would be interesting if a company with deep pockets started their own TLD like .kids as a countermeasure.
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Reality is that if you let people snap up premium domains for registration fee, most of the registrants will only want to flip them, and this will happen many times until a domain is finally developed.... if it ever is.

.xxx was set up to make money for its owners not the general public and so they obviously want more premium domain sale proceeds to end up in their pocket than in speculators' pockets.

It is understandable, but there is a line between good business and greed. We already know which side of the line they are, we are just yet to see how far they have positioned themsleves from that line.
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It would be interesting if a company with deep pockets started their own TLD like .kids as a countermeasure.
As a father of two...I can tell you right now that a .kids would be fine for young kids. But no teenager (12 and up) would ever be caught dead in it. It would be as big a "ghetto" as .xxx will be when it gets blocked in most countries around the world.
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Reality is that if you let people snap up premium domains for registration fee, most of the registrants will only want to flip them, and this will happen many times until a domain is finally developed.... if it ever is.
This is precisely what we DON'T want to see happen. The best domains should be overflowing with new ideas and exciting content.

Yes, some of those domains will go to auction, but...what if you're the guy with the best idea for a 3 or 4 letter domain related to your niche? If your your idea is new, it's innovative, it's intriguing, it's compelling...and you have the ability to make it happen, then we really want to talk to you.

And for the record, I'd like to repeat that we have neither desire nor intention to see .XXX become a requirement, anywhere.
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If you had of been smart instead of greedy with your new TLD you would have approached all the biggest companies in adult and gave away all the best domains for free and charged $10 per domain like most other TLDs.

Then a lot of the bigger companies, tubes etc would have considered rebranding to .xxx and within a year surfers would type .xxx for many of the biggest sites in the world.

You would have made more money in the long run if you hadn't turned this industry against you
For this is precisely what they did. They have not sold a single premium name yet. They were all given away and if you cant see this you are a nimbleton. Did you read what Shap said the sales pitch was?
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For this is precisely what they did. They have not sold a single premium name yet. They were all given away and if you cant see this you are a nimbleton. Did you read what Shap said the sales pitch was?
perhaps you are the "nimbleton" because a number of premium domains have been sold to various people totaling millions of dollars. ie frank shilling, gay.xxx, shemale.xxx, etc/.
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perhaps you are the "nimbleton" because a number of premium domains have been sold to various people totaling millions of dollars. ie frank shilling, gay.xxx, shemale.xxx, etc/.
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Must have missed it, could you post the thread please or give me a summary
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I don't see where they said "we will credit back your registration fee"
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.XXX is built on a model of extortion. No matter what you do, they're going to leach the greatest amount of money out of as many people and corporations as they can.

Their whole business model is a short-term, extort funds setup. They have no plans on hanging around long-term. Dot XXX is designed to grab maximum amounts of money in minimal amounts of time.

Understandable, as it'll be less releveant than dot.info in two years.

I'm just waiting on coke.xxx, reebok.xxx, generalmotors.xxx to rear their laughable heads.
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yet another thread proving the whole xxx thing is the biggest scam going, absolute fuckers
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Was talking to someone from here on ICQ, this exact same thing happened to them. Bought a somewhat prominent name 4char .xxx name, not even anything super amazing, similar to "lesbian.xxx" in which the plural form is the better one. Someone from .XXX even ICQ'd them sparking up a convo and telling them it was a great buy and they're lucky to get it. Later on they got an email saying "sorry", you can't have it. What a joke.
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.XXX is built on a model of extortion. No matter what you do, they're going to leach the greatest amount of money out of as many people and corporations as they can.

Their whole business model is a short-term, extort funds setup. They have no plans on hanging around long-term. Dot XXX is designed to grab maximum amounts of money in minimal amounts of time.
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Was talking to someone from here on ICQ, this exact same thing happened to them. Bought a somewhat prominent name 4char .xxx name, not even anything super amazing, similar to "lesbian.xxx" in which the plural form is the better one. Someone from .XXX even ICQ'd them sparking up a convo and telling them it was a great buy and they're lucky to get it. Later on they got an email saying "sorry", you can't have it. What a joke.
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If you had of been smart instead of greedy with your new TLD you would have approached all the biggest companies in adult and gave away all the best domains for free and charged $10 per domain like most other TLDs.

Then a lot of the bigger companies, tubes etc would have considered rebranding to .xxx and within a year surfers would type .xxx for many of the biggest sites in the world.

You would have made more money in the long run if you hadn't turned this industry against you
Yeah looks like most of our tube names are taken and not by us.
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Old 12-10-2011, 04:57 AM   #142
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DWB same thing has now happened to me, logged into my account today and both .xxx domains are saying Registration Failed in red. That's a few days after registering them so this could well be an issue with DirectNIC

As long as DirectNIC issue a refund for the domains and WHOIS privacy I'm not that bothered TBH
Directnic has since talked to me about this and are taking 100% of the blame. Apparently Name.com was able to pull the trigger faster than they were, resulting in my loss of the domains. I don't see how that is possible considering how fast I did it, but it is what it is. I also spoke to Bot who told me the same thing Directnic did.

My only issue really is that I wish we would have been told immediately so we could have secured other names instead while they were still available. There are some still open but not really something I feel strongly about.

You would think by now the registrars would be able to work stuff like this out, but I guess not. Today it seems many more people are having the same issue.
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Old 12-10-2011, 05:17 AM   #143
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Best to look around you for a reality check genius, you're in the wrong arena.
Read what people are saying and how they are replying, many in this thread are NOT buying into the .XXX game.

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Ok the thread is about peeps attemping to BUY .xxx domains.

Yes or no ?

Lots of other peeps chiming in about their experiences trying to BUY .xxx domains.

Yes or no ?

And buy the way none of the peeps talking about their experiences trying to BUY .xxx domains in this thread are suggesting it is a defensive purchase to protect their dot coms. They are all talking about how they thought they had picked up a great domain !

So on reflection, what do you think ? Is the thread broadly about peeps and their experiences BUYING .xxx domains with the odd poster triumphantly saying he has not bought any so he is not concerned.

Yes or no ?
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Old 12-10-2011, 05:23 AM   #144
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This is precisely what we DON'T want to see happen. The best domains should be overflowing with new ideas and exciting content.

Yes, some of those domains will go to auction, but...what if you're the guy with the best idea for a 3 or 4 letter domain related to your niche? If your your idea is new, it's innovative, it's intriguing, it's compelling...and you have the ability to make it happen, then we really want to talk to you.

And for the record, I'd like to repeat that we have neither desire nor intention to see .XXX become a requirement, anywhere.
In my opinion you shouldn't be able to force any domains to be auctioned. It's a new TLD and should be first come, first serve. It would be different if you were holding a domain name auction for expired names or names which have otherwise already been registered but that's not the case. In my opinion I believe you are just trying to milk as much money as you can from these names.

You say that you will possibly let domains go if someone approaches you with an idea but in my opinion that's improper and you are overstepping your role. You shouldn't be doing this. I'm also skeptical that you won't either steal the idea or turn it into an opportunity to try to extort the company and collect as much as is possible. The end effect being that the domain is really reserved for a company with deep pockets who is willing to pay as opposed to the savvy little guy who sees opportunity and wants the domain for (the already excessive) normal domain cost.

I believe ICANN and government officials should be investigating your actions and I hope their are records being kept so that the information will be available to them.
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Old 12-10-2011, 05:30 AM   #145
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There were approximately 1k common word, generic premium names reserved by ICM Registry, which is significantly LESS than the usual 5k or so reserved by most new TLD's. Some of those we will be developing as search/traffic/resource portals. The vast majority of them however, we would like to see developed and we encourage people to contact us with development ideas.

The difference is that you are an adult only TLD so 1k in registrations can go a lot further than 5k registration in mainstream. You should also be required to release a list of these names. Personally I've seen information which suggests the number might be much higher than 1,000.

There is a huge issue with accountability here and all the "glitches" seem rather convenient for you. How do we know you guys aren't taking the names people register when you think they are too good to let go for around $100 and then coming up with some sort of excuse? I've seen evidence which suggests ICM is watching individual registrations so this seems plausible.
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Old 12-10-2011, 06:19 AM   #146
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Ok the thread is about peeps attemping to BUY .xxx domains.

Yes or no ?
NO. It is about one person buying .XXX and their awful experience with it

Here is your original statement-
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Recently you have all been bitching about .xxx , but guess what everybody is registering multiple domains !
Here are just a few of the posts in this thread-

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.xxx is shady
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FUCK .xxx names
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.XXX is built on a model of extortion.
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I don't trust .xxx
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yet another thread proving the whole xxx thing is the biggest scam going, absolute fuckers
So in trying to say that everyone, or even everyone in this thread is buying .XXX domains, you are full of shit.

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Old 12-10-2011, 07:26 AM   #147
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Was talking to someone from here on ICQ, this exact same thing happened to them. Bought a somewhat prominent name 4char .xxx name, not even anything super amazing, similar to "lesbian.xxx" in which the plural form is the better one. Someone from .XXX even ICQ'd them sparking up a convo and telling them it was a great buy and they're lucky to get it. Later on they got an email saying "sorry", you can't have it. What a joke.
Now what is the 4 character plurar form of lesbian.xxx ? dyke.xxx ?
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Old 12-10-2011, 07:53 AM   #148
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Old 12-10-2011, 08:05 AM   #149
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NO. It is about one person buying .XXX and their awful experience with it

So in trying to say that everyone, or even everyone in this thread is buying .XXX domains, you are full of shit.

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He actually has a point. DWB has always been one of the loudest opponents of .xxx and yet he by his own admission registered a few and you don't need to be a genius to know he is not the only one with a different public and private stance.

I can think of a number of good reasons to buy .xxx domains.... even if you are against the principle of it.
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Old 12-10-2011, 08:25 AM   #150
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He actually has a point. DWB has always been one of the loudest opponents of .xxx and yet he by his own admission registered a few and you don't need to be a genius to know he is not the only one with a different public and private stance.
He has no point. DWB bought some .XXX domains and had a bad experience.

You lie down with dogs you get up with fleas.

At least 50% of the people posting in this thread want nothing to do with .XXX, thus NewNick's statement that "everyone is registering .XXX domains" is bullshit.

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