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porno jew · 12-10-2011, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

Could be...because some of those girls are on all day long. I don't know how they put in that many hours.

So maybe they do make more money overall? But CM and all her porn girlfriends rarely work on cam for more than a couple of hours a day. And we still rake in $2,000 plus a week.

I'd say that the girls with big fan bases (the "porn star" girls) probably make a lot more per hour than the "normal" cutsie-type girls. But perhaps those "normal" girls work it more like a job (put in more hours) because it's their main income and make more money at the end of the week.

at chatubate the girl i saw on there make the most money was a girl next door type who never took her clothes off. she worked a hour or so a day tops. her room rang off the hook with tips.

adultmobile · 12-10-2011, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by porno jew

at chatubate the girl i saw on there make the most money was a girl next door type who never took her clothes off. she worked a hour or so a day tops. her room rang off the hook with tips.

In most sites the biggest single tips are for girls who keep clothed always or show one nipple per year perhaps. Sex shows are more a many small tips from several. Also the private chats - I can see some does like 1 hour at $3 per minute just talking clothed of what they made past week-end, what movies watched and if their dog is sick.
That's the point of cams: it is not just porn really.

Robbie · 12-10-2011, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by adultmobile

That's the point of cams: it is not just porn really.

No...it's more like a lonely hearts club. I see it happen every day that CM is on there...faithful fans will come on and pay her the $9.99 a minute that we charge for "exclusive" (one on one) cam and do nothing but have her sitting there naked and talking.
We have one guy who comes on every time she is on and will do that for 45 minutes to an hour every time.

Of course a lot of guys like to see the "show" as well...the fuck machine, the dildos, ass shaking, tit bouncing, etc.

But a surprisingly large percentage of them just want to talk.

In that respect it's a lot like the prostitution game. A lot of guys of course want to fuck the whore and throw her out. But a good number of guys like to spend time with a girl instead: watch t.v., hold hands, talk, play cards...human beings are much more complex than we sometimes think.

Mutt · 12-10-2011, 08:40 PM

like Robbie said pornstars don't put enough hours on cam sites to build up the same following as a regular girl who's on 5 days a week at the same hours usually - the pornstars that do go on MFC are instantly recognized and move up quickly to the top row but aren't on enough to make the 20-40K a month the organic MFC stars are making.

pretty sure the same thing is going to happen to the stars of MFC as has happened to pornstars - escorting, i'm sure some are already doing it.

adultmobile · 12-10-2011, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

But a surprisingly large percentage of them just want to talk.
In that respect it's a lot like the prostitution game. A lot of guys of course want to fuck the whore and throw her out. But a good number of guys like to spend time with a girl instead: watch t.v., hold hands, talk, play cards...human beings are much more complex than we sometimes think.

I run cam sites from 2004 and before had run studios so I could write a reference book on what they do in private, also because that's the same schema always, it is an exact science.
Let's take a lonely person who it is shy to meet women (feel ugly or old or whatever) and/or feel guilty or afraid to meet real girls as they're married or fear be caught for reputation (rich guys get scandal for hookers bust), so the secret affair with cam girl it is perfect and can't be replaced with anything else, neither real hooker or recorded porn.

Especially for the whales i.e. who spend biggest. Either they have one only girl they chat hours a day (I had some on the $90k a year range), or they have several girls as like variety. In both cases, at the end of them month they spent $2k to $10k - yes I have even now guy(s) who spend the $10k a month, it is not just in the good old years, the cam whale it happens no matter the financial crisis, the tube and torrent sites, they will sell the own home to chat all day with the girls if are broke, they're addicted.

Most cam sites esp. the small ones would have not survived if it was just 3-7 minute wankers, also some girls would not keep online if it was just 3-7 minute wankers.
So let's take a girl (pornstar or else) who stay online only 2 hour a day and not even all days - if she get a guy, he will miss her too much, she's not available enough, it is the same if you get a gf and she is never available, you get pissed and get other gf.

Because those guys will do like with a real gf: 80% talk and 20% sex, so 8 hours blah blah and 2 hours action - if you have a gf you not do sex with her all days all hours eh?
So a cam girl should be online always, so her bf can talk her all days - if she miss 2-3 weeks it is the same a real gf miss 2-3 weeks the guy feel bounced and relationship broke.

This explains why only the proper cam girl who is online always can do the most money, of course not all the girls who ar online always do money, it depends on the luck too, for example 1 or 2 whale customers more or less can make it 10 to 20 times more or less money, I mean make $1k or $10k a month, for 1 only customer difference!

Except the private chats; for the new biz model of tips, it is interesting to see that there the guys battle to be noticed (by bigger tips) and to win against others - however believe me, the whale/bf suffer from being there together with all those others and sort of in line to wait his turn. That make the private chats happening despite some girl show all the action in free show - then the bf take her in private to talk clothed. It is counter intuitive, the girl do sex action for free in public, then the guy pay per minute to talk her clothed. Due to this phenomenom, we launched tubecamgirl and it work this way, private chats happen after the girl shown with 3 dildos for few tips, to the guy and everyone else - a guy taking her in private at $3/minute after make no sense unless you have read this post. In general the cam biz make no sense unless you see it happen, it is not intuitive and this is why most cam sites who are planned on logics, simply fail.

On a side note, about myfreecams: such site was not relevant from 2004 to 2008, this is 4 years. From 2004 to 2006 it was so small I not even made a member account, I made one in 2006 to take a look and checked once a year. From 2008 started to pick up and became what it is now very quickly. Now think at the people who say chaturbate sucks, in some threads here - actually the models and cam sites said that MFC sucks (mostly it was not relevant) for its first 4 years of existence. So I would wait until 2015 before to say anything final about cam sites launched in 2011 - these have a little of the social media effect, so even facebook was nothing first years, as MFC was nothing too - I not say chaturbate (or our tubecamgirl) will be as big as MFC in 2015 (I wish the latter lol), but I simply say, in cams it does not work like most people (and affiliate) think of.

Roald · 12-11-2011, 02:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adultmobile

I run cam sites from 2004 and before had run studios so I could write a reference book on what they do in private, also because that's the same schema always, it is an exact science.
Let's take a lonely person who it is shy to meet women (feel ugly or old or whatever) and/or feel guilty or afraid to meet real girls as they're married or fear be caught for reputation (rich guys get scandal for hookers bust), so the secret affair with cam girl it is perfect and can't be replaced with anything else, neither real hooker or recorded porn.

Especially for the whales i.e. who spend biggest. Either they have one only girl they chat hours a day (I had some on the $90k a year range), or they have several girls as like variety. In both cases, at the end of them month they spent $2k to $10k - yes I have even now guy(s) who spend the $10k a month, it is not just in the good old years, the cam whale it happens no matter the financial crisis, the tube and torrent sites, they will sell the own home to chat all day with the girls if are broke, they're addicted.

Most cam sites esp. the small ones would have not survived if it was just 3-7 minute wankers, also some girls would not keep online if it was just 3-7 minute wankers.
So let's take a girl (pornstar or else) who stay online only 2 hour a day and not even all days - if she get a guy, he will miss her too much, she's not available enough, it is the same if you get a gf and she is never available, you get pissed and get other gf.

Because those guys will do like with a real gf: 80% talk and 20% sex, so 8 hours blah blah and 2 hours action - if you have a gf you not do sex with her all days all hours eh?
So a cam girl should be online always, so her bf can talk her all days - if she miss 2-3 weeks it is the same a real gf miss 2-3 weeks the guy feel bounced and relationship broke.

This explains why only the proper cam girl who is online always can do the most money, of course not all the girls who ar online always do money, it depends on the luck too, for example 1 or 2 whale customers more or less can make it 10 to 20 times more or less money, I mean make $1k or $10k a month, for 1 only customer difference!

Except the private chats; for the new biz model of tips, it is interesting to see that there the guys battle to be noticed (by bigger tips) and to win against others - however believe me, the whale/bf suffer from being there together with all those others and sort of in line to wait his turn. That make the private chats happening despite some girl show all the action in free show - then the bf take her in private to talk clothed. It is counter intuitive, the girl do sex action for free in public, then the guy pay per minute to talk her clothed. Due to this phenomenom, we launched tubecamgirl and it work this way, private chats happen after the girl shown with 3 dildos for few tips, to the guy and everyone else - a guy taking her in private at $3/minute after make no sense unless you have read this post. In general the cam biz make no sense unless you see it happen, it is not intuitive and this is why most cam sites who are planned on logics, simply fail.

On a side note, about myfreecams: such site was not relevant from 2004 to 2008, this is 4 years. From 2004 to 2006 it was so small I not even made a member account, I made one in 2006 to take a look and checked once a year. From 2008 started to pick up and became what it is now very quickly. Now think at the people who say chaturbate sucks, in some threads here - actually the models and cam sites said that MFC sucks (mostly it was not relevant) for its first 4 years of existence. So I would wait until 2015 before to say anything final about cam sites launched in 2011 - these have a little of the social media effect, so even facebook was nothing first years, as MFC was nothing too - I not say chaturbate (or our tubecamgirl) will be as big as MFC in 2015 (I wish the latter lol), but I simply say, in cams it does not work like most people (and affiliate) think of.

MFC was kind of a "new" way of doing cams. Thats why it took a bit. It should take much less time for chaturbate since people are used to the system already.

adultmobile · 12-11-2011, 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roald

MFC was kind of a "new" way of doing cams. Thats why it took a bit. It should take much less time for chaturbate since people are used to the system already.

True too, in fact people land on a cam tube and say "ah this is like mfc". In fact mfc enjoyed no competition the the own very niche, but the new sites ar all clones of mfc and so, with some time mfc may end up the myspace and someone else the facebook?

jimmycooper · 12-11-2011, 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adultmobile

I run cam sites from 2004 and before had run studios so I could write a reference book on what they do in private, also because that's the same schema always, it is an exact science.
Let's take a lonely person who it is shy to meet women (feel ugly or old or whatever) and/or feel guilty or afraid to meet real girls as they're married or fear be caught for reputation (rich guys get scandal for hookers bust), so the secret affair with cam girl it is perfect and can't be replaced with anything else, neither real hooker or recorded porn.

Especially for the whales i.e. who spend biggest. Either they have one only girl they chat hours a day (I had some on the $90k a year range), or they have several girls as like variety. In both cases, at the end of them month they spent $2k to $10k - yes I have even now guy(s) who spend the $10k a month, it is not just in the good old years, the cam whale it happens no matter the financial crisis, the tube and torrent sites, they will sell the own home to chat all day with the girls if are broke, they're addicted.

Most cam sites esp. the small ones would have not survived if it was just 3-7 minute wankers, also some girls would not keep online if it was just 3-7 minute wankers.
So let's take a girl (pornstar or else) who stay online only 2 hour a day and not even all days - if she get a guy, he will miss her too much, she's not available enough, it is the same if you get a gf and she is never available, you get pissed and get other gf.

Because those guys will do like with a real gf: 80% talk and 20% sex, so 8 hours blah blah and 2 hours action - if you have a gf you not do sex with her all days all hours eh?
So a cam girl should be online always, so her bf can talk her all days - if she miss 2-3 weeks it is the same a real gf miss 2-3 weeks the guy feel bounced and relationship broke.

This explains why only the proper cam girl who is online always can do the most money, of course not all the girls who ar online always do money, it depends on the luck too, for example 1 or 2 whale customers more or less can make it 10 to 20 times more or less money, I mean make $1k or $10k a month, for 1 only customer difference!

Except the private chats; for the new biz model of tips, it is interesting to see that there the guys battle to be noticed (by bigger tips) and to win against others - however believe me, the whale/bf suffer from being there together with all those others and sort of in line to wait his turn. That make the private chats happening despite some girl show all the action in free show - then the bf take her in private to talk clothed. It is counter intuitive, the girl do sex action for free in public, then the guy pay per minute to talk her clothed. Due to this phenomenom, we launched tubecamgirl and it work this way, private chats happen after the girl shown with 3 dildos for few tips, to the guy and everyone else - a guy taking her in private at $3/minute after make no sense unless you have read this post. In general the cam biz make no sense unless you see it happen, it is not intuitive and this is why most cam sites who are planned on logics, simply fail.

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