For those who dont know what SOPA is (video) - GoFuckYourself.com

fris · 12-18-2011, 10:11 AM

this is a good video for those who dont know the ins and outs of SOPA

http://fightforthefuture.org/pipa/

brentbacardi · 12-18-2011, 10:23 AM

the US is sucking more then it ever has b4... just sayin

SmokeyTheBear · 12-18-2011, 10:31 AM

i guess videos need to be somewhat "catchy" and short , but they didn't explain why this would make the net "less safe" , they explained it would lower security , but didn't explain why or how..

They have alot of laws already that cover many of these aspects that they don't use. While i think there is no reason to give people powers that can be abused, i don't think for the most part they would be.. The laws don't affect the "bro's" club.

Google and youtube have done what no other webmaster would have been allowed to do under the same circumstances.. Youtube at the beginning was filled with like 90% stolen content.. that is how they got their base. google hotlinks over a billion images including beastiality, cp , terrorist propoganda etc..

bronco67 · 12-18-2011, 10:42 AM

Good video, but there's a lot of "could happen" and "if" scenarios in there.

They bring up situations where someone could go to jail for 5 years for posting a video in which they sing a pop song. In what crazy world is some sixteen year-old girl singing a Katy Perry song infringing on her ability to make money? Isn't there a huge line between that type of video, and some music blog posting her entire discography for everyone to take for free? Does anyone really think people will get thrown in jail for posting stuff on YouTube?

I just think this video is painting a picture where the absolute worst case scenario arises from the passage of the bill. Not saying I think the bill is a good idea overall, but this video is a little overdone with the doom and gloom.

Redrob · 12-18-2011, 10:52 AM

Fear tactics and worst cases.

They forget to mention that the "entertainment industry" created and owns their own content.

Time for the pirates to "adapt or die".

GFED · 12-18-2011, 11:05 AM

damn... gotta revert back to "copy parties".

stocktrader23 · 12-18-2011, 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bronco67

Good video, but there's a lot of "could happen" and "if" scenarios in there.

They bring up situations where someone could go to jail for 5 years for posting a video in which they sing a pop song. In what crazy world is some sixteen year-old girl singing a Katy Perry song infringing on her ability to make money? Isn't there a huge line between that type of video, and some music blog posting her entire discography for everyone to take for free? Does anyone really think people will get thrown in jail for posting stuff on YouTube?

I just think this video is painting a picture where the absolute worst case scenario arises from the passage of the bill. Not saying I think the bill is a good idea overall, but this video is a little overdone with the doom and gloom.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redrob

Fear tactics and worst cases.

They forget to mention that the "entertainment industry" created and owns their own content.

Time for the pirates to "adapt or die".

First of all, the law probably won't pass so your stupid "adapt or die" comments are just that, stupid.

Second, the worse case scenarios should be considered for a reason. Never mind someone going to jail, how would you like your website blocked by Google because someone you pissed off on GFY could file a few hundred or a few thousand claims against you, using proxies and fake names of course. It would be up to Google to get all of that information to you, get a response, evaluate whether you were telling the truth or not then decide to leave the links up even though they could then be sued if you were lying.

The way the bill is written, that exact situation could very well happen and it has FUCK ALL to do with whether or not the cops would put someone in jail for lip syncing.

Idiots.

bronco67 · 12-18-2011, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by stocktrader23

Idiots.

Well, you know everything, so I guess you're right.

stocktrader23 · 12-18-2011, 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bronco67

Well, you know everything, so I guess you're right.

I know how to read a bill, yes.

I know how to look at our governments history of abusing powers, absolutely.

I also know when to listen to people that invest much more time and many more resources on learning about the subject that is up for discussion.

Plenty of people and organizations have made it perfectly clear what a clusterfuck this bill is so even if you're too lazy or stupid to read the bill and comprehend what it says you could always listen to those smarter than you on the topic.

blackmonsters · 12-18-2011, 02:43 PM

It's in a video and it's on the internet therefore it must be true, accurate and unbiased.

Barry-xlovecam · 12-18-2011, 03:30 PM

Every day we create and stream 100's of hours of copyright broadcast cam content -- so we are a stakeholder in this conversation.

We are one of those domains foreign to the United States.

We do our best to comply with the International Berne Convention on Copyright but what if we use some font or image that we bought with the license to use or with assignment of the copyright from the author with the documentation being found, unknowingly to us, not true?

We paid our money in good faith but now we are subject to some lawsuit by the rightful copyright holder -- he has taken a gung ho action without any negotiation because he can under this proposed PROTECT IP / SOPA Act legislation.

We are just foreign deep pockets to the complainant and his lawyers. We would have no choice but to ?

Settle the lawsuit, or;

Answer in a US Court of competent jurisdiction, or;

Default and have our domain DNS tampered with or possibly seized (*we are a .com and the USA claims jurisdiction).

You complain of "extortion" in the .xxx affair but see no extortion in this proposed PROTECT IP / SOPA Act legislation?

Maybe this is some explanation of the opposition to this draconian legislation.

Where is this legislation limited to just movies (videos) or music piracy -- it is not.

blackmonsters · 12-18-2011, 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

Every day we create and stream 100's of hours of copyright broadcast cam content -- so we are a stakeholder in this conversation.

We are one of those domains foreign to the United States.

We do our best to comply with the International Berne Convention on Copyright but what if we use some font or image that we bought with the license to use or with assignment of the copyright from the author with the documentation being found, unknowingly to us, not true?

We paid our money in good faith but now we are subject to some lawsuit by the rightful copyright holder -- he has taken a gung ho action without any negotiation because he can under this proposed PROTECT IP / SOPA Act legislation.

We are just foreign deep pockets to the complainant and his lawyers. We would have no choice but to ?

Settle the lawsuit, or;

Answer in a US Court of competent jurisdiction, or;

Default and have our domain DNS tampered with or possibly seized (*we are a .com and the USA claims jurisdiction).

You complain of "extortion" in the .xxx affair but see no extortion in this proposed PROTECT IP / SOPA Act legislation?

Maybe this is some explanation of the opposition to this draconian legislation.

Where is this legislation limited to just movies (videos) or music piracy -- it is not.

Read the Bill!

Your site would have to be shown to be
"Dedicated to theft" before any action could be taken.

Using a stolen font or even a stolen video is not enough to take a site down under this
bill. The complaint has to demonstrate that the primary purpose of your site must be
to illegally distribute US property.

Cherry7 · 12-18-2011, 05:05 PM

The video gives me more reason to support SOPA.

The bit I like was the idea that someone could start a new search engine....

Steal copywrited material - get taken down....sounds like it might would, Joe smith is going to have problems remembering 355.66.23.23 instead of freestolencontent.com

Barry-xlovecam · 12-18-2011, 05:12 PM

I didn't say they would win in court -- I don't want the expense of defending idiocy

Barry-xlovecam · 12-18-2011, 05:14 PM

Do you allow customer downloads of content?
If so, you encourage this theft.

12-18-2011, 10:11 AM	#1
fris Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 55,372	For those who dont know what SOPA is (video) this is a good video for those who dont know the ins and outs of SOPA http://fightforthefuture.org/pipa/ __________________ Since 1999: 69 Adult Industry awards for Best Hosting Company and professional excellence. WP Stuff

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12-18-2011, 10:31 AM	#3
SmokeyTheBear ►SouthOfHeaven Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: PlanetEarth MyBoardRank: GerbilMaster My-Penis-Size: extralarge MyWeapon: Computer Posts: 28,609	i guess videos need to be somewhat "catchy" and short , but they didn't explain why this would make the net "less safe" , they explained it would lower security , but didn't explain why or how.. They have alot of laws already that cover many of these aspects that they don't use. While i think there is no reason to give people powers that can be abused, i don't think for the most part they would be.. The laws don't affect the "bro's" club. Google and youtube have done what no other webmaster would have been allowed to do under the same circumstances.. Youtube at the beginning was filled with like 90% stolen content.. that is how they got their base. google hotlinks over a billion images including beastiality, cp , terrorist propoganda etc.. __________________ hatisblack at yahoo.com

12-18-2011, 10:42 AM	#4
bronco67 Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 29,032	Good video, but there's a lot of "could happen" and "if" scenarios in there. They bring up situations where someone could go to jail for 5 years for posting a video in which they sing a pop song. In what crazy world is some sixteen year-old girl singing a Katy Perry song infringing on her ability to make money? Isn't there a huge line between that type of video, and some music blog posting her entire discography for everyone to take for free? Does anyone really think people will get thrown in jail for posting stuff on YouTube? I just think this video is painting a picture where the absolute worst case scenario arises from the passage of the bill. Not saying I think the bill is a good idea overall, but this video is a little overdone with the doom and gloom. __________________ Last edited by bronco67; 12-18-2011 at 10:50 AM..

12-18-2011, 02:43 PM	#10
blackmonsters Making PHP work Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: 🌎🌅🌈🌇 Posts: 20,578	It's in a video and it's on the internet therefore it must be true, accurate and unbiased. __________________ Make Money with Porn

12-18-2011, 10:52 AM	#5
Redrob Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: In a refrigerator box by the tracks. Posts: 4,791	Fear tactics and worst cases. They forget to mention that the "entertainment industry" created and owns their own content. Time for the pirates to "adapt or die".

12-18-2011, 11:05 AM	#6
GFED Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 8,120	damn... gotta revert back to "copy parties".

12-18-2011, 03:30 PM	#11
Barry-xlovecam It's 42 Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Global Posts: 18,083	Every day we create and stream 100's of hours of copyright broadcast cam content -- so we are a stakeholder in this conversation. We are one of those domains foreign to the United States. We do our best to comply with the International Berne Convention on Copyright but what if we use some font or image that we bought with the license to use or with assignment of the copyright from the author with the documentation being found, unknowingly to us, not true? We paid our money in good faith but now we are subject to some lawsuit by the rightful copyright holder -- he has taken a gung ho action without any negotiation because he can under this proposed PROTECT IP / SOPA Act legislation. We are just foreign deep pockets to the complainant and his lawyers. We would have no choice but to ? Settle the lawsuit, or; Answer in a US Court of competent jurisdiction, or; Default and have our domain DNS tampered with or possibly seized (*we are a .com and the USA claims jurisdiction). You complain of "extortion" in the .xxx affair but see no extortion in this proposed PROTECT IP / SOPA Act legislation? Maybe this is some explanation of the opposition to this draconian legislation. Where is this legislation limited to just movies (videos) or music piracy -- it is not.

12-18-2011, 05:05 PM	#13
Cherry7 Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: UK Posts: 3,564	The video gives me more reason to support SOPA. The bit I like was the idea that someone could start a new search engine.... Steal copywrited material - get taken down....sounds like it might would, Joe smith is going to have problems remembering 355.66.23.23 instead of freestolencontent.com __________________ My Neighbour Butterfly PORN-The Musical The Long Goodbye Cinema Erotique

12-18-2011, 05:12 PM	#14
Barry-xlovecam It's 42 Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Global Posts: 18,083	I didn't say they would win in court -- I don't want the expense of defending idiocy

12-18-2011, 05:14 PM	#15
Barry-xlovecam It's 42 Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Global Posts: 18,083	Do you allow customer downloads of content? If so, you encourage this theft.