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DamageX · 12-22-2011, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

Alcohol is worse than marijuana, yet people say "OMG he wants to legalize marijuana!" Shouldn't these same people be standing up and trying to ban alcohol? Oh no we wouldn't want the lemmings to think now!

Bell curve. Half of the population is retarded no matter how you put it.

Coup · 12-22-2011, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DamageX

True Libertarianism isn't even being discussed in this thread. What's being discussed is Libertarian Socialism, which in itself is a retarded paradox. Socialism, in any form, is pretty much on the exact opposite side of Libertarianism, socially and, more importantly, economically.

Yes it is. Oh you've only got right-wing libertarianism stuck in your noggin.

Libertarianism is so much more than that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarianism

porno jew · 12-22-2011, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

Alcohol is worse than marijuana, yet people say "OMG he wants to legalize marijuana!" Shouldn't these same people be standing up and trying to ban alcohol? Oh no we wouldn't want the lemmings to think now!

yes everyone should get so high that they are unable to see things right in front of their faces like planes slamming into tall buildings.

DamageX · 12-22-2011, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Coup

Yes it is. Oh you've only got right-wing libertarianism stuck in your noggin.

Libertarianism is so much more than that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarianism

You're right, my bad. For whatever reason I was assuming Libertarianism to be the American version of Classic Liberalism, since being Liberal in the US pretty much means being socialist. Now it seems half the libertarians are just as retarded. Boy, did you guys fuck up the terms good!

DamageX · 12-22-2011, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

Yet more people die from big pharma drugs than "illegal" drugs....but we'll just ignore that

Well, if you wanna nitpick... More people die WITHOUT drugs than WITH them, legal or illegal.

Dcat · 12-22-2011, 03:03 PM

Chumpsky is good on some issues, but he is still controlled, and working "within" the system at MIT. I think he has been given a longer leash to criticize the establishment on crimes committed overseas, but is never get too close to issues at home. If and when he does, it is only to keep a lid on it, never allowing that knowledge to turn into action. He acts more as a "gatekeeper" within.

For example his stance on 911. He basically won't touch it, other than to say it couldn't have been a conspiracy because basically people couldn't keep their mouths shut about it if it had been a conspiracy.

Complete nonsense if you understand the Command Hierarchy, and Chain of Command. It only takes a few at the top to make things happen. The others involved are left so in the dark that they couldn't hope to put two-and-two together even if they had a small part in it.

Infinitely better than Chumpsky is none other than Dr. Webster Tarpley.

Coup · 12-22-2011, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DamageX

You're right, my bad. For whatever reason I was assuming Libertarianism to be the American version of Classic Liberalism, since being Liberal in the US pretty much means being socialist. Now it seems half the libertarians are just as retarded. Boy, did you guys fuck up the terms good!

I'm down with Libertarian Socialism. Not liberalism. Just so we are clear

DamageX · 12-22-2011, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Coup

I'm down with Libertarian Socialism. Not liberalism. Just so we are clear

You go, chief!

DamageX · 12-22-2011, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

lol good point but all we hear is "waa waa drugs are bad for you i cant believe you want to legalize them GASP"

Well, then an alcohol, big pharma and fast food joints too because they are MUCH worse than any drug I've taken

Water too, you can drown in it!

Coup · 12-22-2011, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Dcat

Chumpsky is good on some issues, but he is still controlled, and working "within" the system at MIT. I think he has been given a longer leash to criticize the establishment on crimes committed overseas, but is never get too close to issues at home. If and when he does, it is only to keep a lid on it, never allowing that knowledge to turn into action. He acts more as a "gatekeeper" within.

For example his stance on 911. He basically won't touch it, other than to say it couldn't have been a conspiracy because basically people couldn't keep their mouths shut about it if it had been a conspiracy.

Complete nonsense if you understand the Command Hierarchy, and Chain of Command. It only takes a few at the top to make things happen. The others involved are left so in the dark that they couldn't hope to put two-and-two together even if they had a small part in it.

Infinitely better than Chumpsky is none other than Dr. Webster Tarpley.

porno jew · 12-22-2011, 03:09 PM

and CONGRESSMAN and REPUBLICAN candidate ron paul is such an outsider.

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Originally Posted by Dcat

Chumpsky is good on some issues, but he is still controlled, and working "within" the system at MIT. I think he has been given a longer leash to criticize the establishment on crimes committed overseas, but is never get too close to issues at home. If and when he does, it is only to keep a lid on it, never allowing that knowledge to turn into action. He acts more as a "gatekeeper" within.

For example his stance on 911. He basically won't touch it, other than to say it couldn't have been a conspiracy because basically people couldn't keep their mouths shut about it if it had been a conspiracy.

Complete nonsense if you understand the Command Hierarchy, and Chain of Command. It only takes a few at the top to make things happen. The others involved are left so in the dark that they couldn't hope to put two-and-two together even if they had a small part in it.

Infinitely better than Chumpsky is none other than Dr. Webster Tarpley.

Coup · 12-22-2011, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DamageX

Water too, you can drown in it!

Overdose too

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_intoxication

Coup · 12-22-2011, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

Why didn't anyone in Al Qaeda leak the attack or come forward to stop it??

Shit I dont know. Go ask them. lol

Coup · 12-22-2011, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

But clearly someone would have leaked it! Right?

I cant answer that question. You would have to ask them I guess

porno jew · 12-22-2011, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Dcat

Infinitely better than Chumpsky is none other than Dr. Webster Tarpley.

if you really believe that your iq probably doesn't push 100 in all seriousness.

Coup · 12-22-2011, 03:16 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Webster_Tarpley interesting guy. heh

Coup · 12-22-2011, 03:22 PM

I see where you're going with this and I disagree. Occam's razor and all that jazz.

porno jew · 12-22-2011, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

But it was a conspiracy, clearly ....but supposedly conspiracies cant happen because too many people would know

if you can't see the difference between a cell of 20 or so religious fanatics and 1000+ government employees you are stupider than i thought. of course you think holograms hit the twin towers so why am i surprised?

The Porn Nerd · 12-22-2011, 03:35 PM

To be clear, since some in this thread have no fucking idea what I'm talking about (which proves my point, but so be it):

Libertarianism, in whatever form, does not and will not work. It is extreme and does not allow for moral responsibilities in soceities. To be even clearer:

Ayn Rand was a cunt.

Democratic Socialism is the only form of government that has ever worked, uncorrupted, until it was conquered by right-wing extremists, beginning around 3200 BC, which is, admittedly, a weakness of the form. But I digress....

THIS IS JUST A GAME AND WE HAVE ALL ALREADY LOST.

Sorry for the caps but trying to get through: you people are discussing differant chess moves, differant opening gambits, when it's been 'checkmate' since around 1982. Or 1963. Or...pick a date. The corporations/fascists have won, there's no will in the fat, lazy, ever-increasingly stupid American populace to rise up and STOP IT. So it will continue, and get worse and worse over time. So all this debating about this system or that is just noise and nonsense. In other words, exactly what the powers that be WANT it to be: one giant distraction.

You're welcome.

Coup · 12-22-2011, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by MisterPeabody

Ayn Rand was a cunt.

Can't stand her either. Objectivism is a horrid ideology in my oppinion.

Coup · 12-22-2011, 03:39 PM

Democratic Socialism is fine by me if kept to a decentralized fashion and not forced apon those who do not wish to participate in it.

porno jew · 12-22-2011, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

Huh? Never said anything about a hologram, wtf are you talking about?

What about a cell of 20 or so hired CIA/Mossad agents? You can't have it both ways here. Why would Al Qaeda only need 20 people and the government need thousands? Would seem the other way around

well you think no planes hit the towers. what did people see then? balloons?

porno jew · 12-22-2011, 03:57 PM

lay off the dope you can't even remember the shit you post.

porno jew · 12-22-2011, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

I never once said that no planes hit the WTC. EVER. Find the post where I said that (you won't because I never did)

Good god try to follow along

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

Its impossible, you cant take a plane which wasnt even in ny, turn it around and hit a building. You have a better chance of winning the lottery and getting struck by lightning on the same day

so if it was impossible for planes to hit the twin towers, what did people see?

Coup · 12-22-2011, 04:11 PM

Oh my...

100 Libertarian Socialist discussions

Coup · 12-22-2011, 04:15 PM

Continue the fight by addressing the esteemed Mr. PornoJew's concerns my good man.

The Porn Nerd · 12-22-2011, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Coup

Democratic Socialism is fine by me if kept to a decentralized fashion and not forced apon those who do not wish to participate in it.

Agreed 100%

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

Absolutely terrible post

Libertarianism is the ONLY way to go. Anything that isn't forced on you in your life or where government isn't involved is everyday anarchy and libertarianism. Like who you have sex with where you go to the movies where you go on the weekends, etc. If people could just push that to all facets

Quit blaming corporations and look at the government, aka those who have a monopoly on power and can assault and kidnap you for not obeying their dumb orders. If a company screws you over then don't do business with them. If they do it enough times then they'll be out of business asap

Grow up

Only Libertarians need 'grow up". LOL Don't try to argue for selfishness, either, it has no "virtue" as Rand insisted. Most Libertarians are just immature post-adolescents who want to run around "free" to do what they are actually currently doing, just without the paranoia of getting caught.

What Government is telling you which movies to see, BTW? I digress...

But your biggest naivete is reserved for corporations and Governemnt. First and foremost: they are the same thing. Yes Johnny, I'm talking about good old-fashioned Fascism. Look up the definition please.

There is no "free market", markets are ALL manipulated. And, as Chomsky pointed out, corporations "enforce" their positions using state police. So the melding, if you will, is complete.

We, "the People", have no influence over either "side" (Gov't or corporations), which is why I refer to "the game" as being rigged and, essentially, over.

StickyGreen · 12-22-2011, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by MisterPeabody

Most Libertarians are just immature post-adolescents who want to run around "free" to do what they are actually currently doing, just without the paranoia of getting caught.

That doesn't even make sense.

If we lived in a truly free society there would be no worrying about "getting caught" for anything other than serious crimes like murder or infringing on other people's rights.

The only reason people are "paranoid about getting caught" for living their lives how they want is because we have tyrannical laws making things illegal that should be up to the individual to decide... such as drug usage.

porno jew · 12-22-2011, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

If you advocate that "we need government because of x" then I guess we need government to tell us who to have sex with, who to marry, what to eat and where to go.

simplistic and immature thinking. back to the library.

StickyGreen · 12-22-2011, 06:11 PM

The primary moral reason for opposing government intrusions into our lives: government is force, not reason.

StickyGreen · 12-22-2011, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

So having a government, which is a group of people with a monopoly on brainwashing the young, kidnapping millions for non crimes, invading countries and killing millions is "mature"?

These people love tyranny.

Pretty soon they'll be getting patted-down by TSA agents every time they get into their own car, and they'll love every minute of it.

Coup · 12-22-2011, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by StickyGreen

These people love tyranny.

Pretty soon they'll be getting patted-down by TSA agents every time they get into their own car, and they'll love every minute of it.

What people are you talking about? No one in this thread has professed any love for tyranny.

porno jew · 12-22-2011, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

So having a government, which is a group of people with a monopoly on brainwashing the young, kidnapping millions for non crimes, invading countries and killing millions is "mature"?

i don't support a career politician and republican (two party) presidential candidate. you do.

StickyGreen · 12-22-2011, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by porno jew

i don't support a career politician and republican (two party) presidential candidate. you do.

Who do you support? Kim Jong Un? lol

Coup · 12-22-2011, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

If you support the use of force, then you support tyranny

Oh, I forgot 12clicks posted in this thread. My Bad.

Coup · 12-22-2011, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by StickyGreen

Who do you support? Kim Jong Un? lol

who doesn't? He's so dreamy ^_^

Coup · 12-22-2011, 06:32 PM

http://www.ustream.tv/cbsnews

StickyGreen your hero is speaking live on the mainstream media thats ignoring him right now. GO GO GO GO

Coup · 12-22-2011, 06:34 PM

There. Now that he's gone, What were we talking about again? heh

StickyGreen · 12-22-2011, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Coup

http://www.ustream.tv/cbsnews

StickyGreen your hero is speaking live on the mainstream media thats ignoring him right now. GO GO GO GO

I get enough Ron Paul news as it is, you don't have to update me with every little thing.

And I went to that link and the audio didn't even work, wtf.

Oh well, not like RP is going to say anything new, I know where he stands.

Coup · 12-22-2011, 06:35 PM

Aww. bummer.

Coup · 12-22-2011, 06:37 PM

Oh well. If you're gonna stick around make yourself useful and fetch me a nice cold soda-pop, will ya?

Cherry7 · 12-23-2011, 11:00 AM

I support the working class right to use force against the force of the corporation or State.

I supported the use of force by the Vietnamese against the French and American Imperialists.

I support a woman using force against a rapist.

I support the right of the poor to use force against the rich. They are poor because force has be used or threaten to keep them poor and exploit them.

12clicks · 12-23-2011, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherry7

I support the right of the poor to use force against the rich. They are poor because force has be used or threaten to keep them poor and exploit them.

no, you're poor because you lack intelligence.

glamourmodels · 12-23-2011, 12:15 PM

Noam Chomsky is a racist

Cherry7 · 12-23-2011, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

no, you're poor because you lack intelligence.

Do you think the monarchy are intelligent?

StickyGreen · 12-23-2011, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by glamourmodels

Noam Chomsky is a racist

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Dcat Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Mexico Posts: 1,607	Chumpsky is good on some issues, but he is still controlled, and working "within" the system at MIT. I think he has been given a longer leash to criticize the establishment on crimes committed overseas, but is never get too close to issues at home. If and when he does, it is only to keep a lid on it, never allowing that knowledge to turn into action. He acts more as a "gatekeeper" within. For example his stance on 911. He basically won't touch it, other than to say it couldn't have been a conspiracy because basically people couldn't keep their mouths shut about it if it had been a conspiracy. Complete nonsense if you understand the Command Hierarchy, and Chain of Command. It only takes a few at the top to make things happen. The others involved are left so in the dark that they couldn't hope to put two-and-two together even if they had a small part in it. Infinitely better than Chumpsky is none other than Dr. Webster Tarpley.

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Coup 🚨 PBBC International 🚨 Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: /👁\ Posts: 9,931	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Webster_Tarpley interesting guy. heh

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Coup 🚨 PBBC International 🚨 Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: /👁\ Posts: 9,931	I see where you're going with this and I disagree. Occam's razor and all that jazz.

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Coup 🚨 PBBC International 🚨 Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: /👁\ Posts: 9,931	Democratic Socialism is fine by me if kept to a decentralized fashion and not forced apon those who do not wish to participate in it.

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Coup 🚨 PBBC International 🚨 Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: /👁\ Posts: 9,931	Oh my... 100 Libertarian Socialist discussions

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