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Old 01-07-2012, 04:02 AM   #51
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Exactly. Spiritual TRUTH has been TWISTED to fit human agendas for a long long time. I don't see that ending any time soon. Notice how a religion based on a personal relationship based on GRACE has been twisted into a religion of WORKS which fed off self-righteousness to produce the OPPOSITE of what that faith was supposed to produce? Instead of the Fruit of the Holy Spirit, it produced Wars of Religion, the Inquisition, Antisemitism, etc etc.

Redemption and faith is all about a personal relationship with something higher and above you. Real faith produces humility and a servant's heart. It doesn't produce anger and an unquenchable thirst for revenge.

While many people, understandably, see religion as a constant source of pain and turmoil, they often overlook the impact true faith has on quite a number of people. It has led to addictions being overcome. It has led to broken lives being mended into happy loving lives. It has led to a SENSE OF MEANING outside of the SLAVERY to the NEEDS of the self that can't be satisfied.

Given our current culture, it is all so easy to throw the baby out with the bath water. However, if you have an open heart and are really sincerely seeking, FAITH has been one of the few things that can turn your pain, angst, anger, or whatever into impulses that seek out others. In essence, LOVE. The world needs more LOVE, right?

Love transforms. Love restores. Love changes people for the good. And finally, Love helps us get over ourselves.
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Old 01-07-2012, 06:14 AM   #52
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So why does this lovely God of yours allow children to be abused, people raped, starvation, etc.

He is all powerful, right? So he COULD stop all that if he wanted and just choses to sit there laughing at 6 year olds getting bummed by their drunk Uncles?

What a cunt he must be to have to power to stop that but to decide not to.
Or worse allow millions to be killed in his name?

Wait a minute god is pretty good at killing people all by himself and helping others to kill. It's all documented in the bible.

Great Flood
Sodom and Gomorrah
The plagues in Egypt
Bringing down the walls of Jericho
Helping Joshua, David and others kill innocents.
Building the Ark, first WMD

And so it goes on. The killing never stops. All in his name. Today more will die, killed by someone who says there way of worshiping god gives them the right to kill others. And they will get their reward in Heaven.
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Old 01-07-2012, 06:16 AM   #53
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Old 01-07-2012, 06:28 AM   #54
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Old 01-07-2012, 06:52 AM   #55
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Or worse allow millions to be killed in his name?

Wait a minute god is pretty good at killing people all by himself and helping others to kill. It's all documented in the bible.

Great Flood
Sodom and Gomorrah
The plagues in Egypt
Bringing down the walls of Jericho
Helping Joshua, David and others kill innocents.
Building the Ark, first WMD

And so it goes on. The killing never stops. All in his name. Today more will die, killed by someone who says there way of worshiping god gives them the right to kill others. And they will get their reward in Heaven.



Also, never forget that it's the number one killer of all time. Nothing killed more humans than religions, NOTHING. Not even cancer but to be honest, people want/need a superman/super hero, so it will always be needed (sadly)

God here, god there shit, even when you fuck you hear it sometimes
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Old 01-07-2012, 07:02 AM   #56
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I believe in pussy. Care to wager I feel more pussy in real life than you feel your God's presence in real life?

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Old 01-07-2012, 07:05 AM   #57
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GFY isn't a place for theological debate ...
GFY isn't a place for 90% of the non-industry related drivel that is flooding GFY. I thought this was an ADULT INDUSTRY forum? WTF?

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Old 01-07-2012, 07:42 AM   #58
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Or worse allow millions to be killed in his name?

Wait a minute god is pretty good at killing people all by himself and helping others to kill. It's all documented in the bible.

Great Flood
Sodom and Gomorrah
The plagues in Egypt
Bringing down the walls of Jericho
Helping Joshua, David and others kill innocents.
Building the Ark, first WMD

And so it goes on. The killing never stops. All in his name. Today more will die, killed by someone who says there way of worshiping god gives them the right to kill others. And they will get their reward in Heaven.

Freewill, good & bad, god & devil.... Why or how could a world be all good, this would mean no devil & no yin yan.

The nasty people, even those too busy thinking about the nasty things, need to get a life & get on with the good of the world!

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The people who were trying to make this world worse are not taking the day off. Why should I?
All good stuff
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Old 01-07-2012, 08:20 AM   #59
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God here, god there shit, even when you fuck you hear it sometimes
Only sometimes? I hear it all the time?

My god is that it?

My god are you finished already?

God knows why I put up with you?

Why did god make so men so small?

Thank god you don't last long.

God when he comes here gets a discount, you pay full price.

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Old 01-07-2012, 10:10 AM   #61
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He is all powerful, right?

So he COULD stop all the babies getting raped and the starvation.

He just CHOOSES not to?

What a cunt.
Hypothetical: You are a black man in Virginia in 1832. Would you want your all powerful owner to decide your every move or would you rather have the ability to make your own decisions and deal with the consequences?

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Or worse allow millions to be killed in his name?

Wait a minute god is pretty good at killing people all by himself and helping others to kill. It's all documented in the bible.

Great Flood
Sodom and Gomorrah
The plagues in Egypt
Bringing down the walls of Jericho
Helping Joshua, David and others kill innocents.
Building the Ark, first WMD

And so it goes on. The killing never stops. All in his name. Today more will die, killed by someone who says there way of worshiping god gives them the right to kill others. And they will get their reward in Heaven.
I think the only think funnier than someone that claims God "allows" people to be killed in his name is those that accept the Old Testament as gospel. I suppose you believe Jonah resided in a fish or whale for three days.
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Old 01-07-2012, 11:00 AM   #62
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Hypothetical: You are a black man in Virginia in 1832. Would you want your all powerful owner to decide your every move or would you rather have the ability to make your own decisions and deal with the consequences?
if I was 8 and being raped and the owner could stop it and didn't I'd be pissed at him.
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Old 01-07-2012, 11:04 AM   #63
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if I was 8 and being raped and the owner could stop it and didn't I'd be pissed at him.
Fine, now how about an answer to the question if you were 21?
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Old 01-07-2012, 11:26 AM   #64
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there are no atheists in foxholes.

but until i end up in a foxhole with someone shooting at me....


besides that: a few billion people do not believe or dont even know about the concept of a "god" and still live their lives - in all varieties. how do "we" dare to claim that some fantasy book explains everyones existence
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Old 01-08-2012, 03:04 AM   #65
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Fine, now how about an answer to the question if you were 21?
OK, if I was 21 and being raped and someone could stop that as easily as snapping their fingers and didn't I would think they were a cunt.

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Old 01-08-2012, 08:33 AM   #66
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I think the only think funnier than someone that claims God "allows" people to be killed in his name is those that accept the Old Testament as gospel. I suppose you believe Jonah resided in a fish or whale for three days.
You never got my post's message did you?

A man recently fell out of a boat in the Pacific and he prayed to God to save him. The boat turned around and came back for him. He refused to get in saying "God will save me." Then the coast guard turned up and told him to get in. He refused to get in saying "God will save me." Then a helicopter came and tried to winch him up and he said "God will save me.".

Then he drowned and went to heaven. When he met God he asked him "Why didn't you save me?".

God replied "I sent the boat back, the coast guard then a helicopter, what more could I of done?"
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