In search of DMCA respecting hosting provider - adulteuhost.com?

[EukerVoorn]

I now have a server with LeaseWeb in the Netherlands. It's obvious that they don't process DMCA notices and use copyright laws for wiping off their asses. I contacted them about intporn.com and oron.com and their reply comes down to showing me their middle finger. I'm happy with the server I have with them, reliable fast connection, but I don't want to do biz with them anymore, so I'm now looking for another hosting provider that offers dedicated servers with fast connection and fully respect the DMCA and international copyright mechanism. I need 6 to 10TB traffic/month. All suggestions welcome. I'm in touch with adulteuhost.com by the way, do they take down copyright infringing sites, can someone confirm or deny?

[porno jew]

http://prq.se/?intl=1

[k0nr4d]

The reason leaseweb ignores DMCA notices, is because DMCA is an american law and doesn't apply to the netherlands. For Leaseweb, you need to look up EUCD (european union copyright directive). Same will be true of most european hosts. They aren't obligated to follow US laws.

[EukerVoorn]

LeaseWeb doesn't follow EUCD either and why are they not obliged to respect US laws if they have servers and representatives in the USA?

[raymor]

User the EU commerce directive, a web host is supposed to take a site spahn once they have knowledge ie from a notice sent by the OP. Either way they should do the right thing when they are notified of theft. "The right thing" isn't to complaint ignore the notice in any case. If they don't, kudos to Euker for refusing to do business with them.

[porno jew]

aren't you trying to dmca content you don't own? no wonder they told you to fuck off.

[k0nr4d]

Originally Posted by EukerVoorn

LeaseWeb doesn't follow EUCD either and why are they not obliged to respect US laws if they have servers and representatives in the USA?

Leaseweb is a netherlands corp, they likely have another corp in USA that they use there that you must send DMCA to.

[Frosty]

Try SoftLayer, they've merged with The Planet, one of the best DC's in the USA. They obviously don't like warez.

P.S. PRQ is warez friendly, it's owned by the pirate bay owners...

[EukerVoorn]

Originally Posted by porno jew

aren't you trying to dmca content you don't own? no wonder they told you to fuck off.

Uh. I'm exploiting our self produced material from the server we lease from LeaseWeb and content thieves steal our content and exploit it from the servers they lease from LeaseWeb. For example intporn.com and oron.com . So the copyright infringement reports we send to LeaseWeb (and have been sending for more than a year now) are about content we own. Also do a google search on LeaseWeb and DMCA. There are content- and software producers complaining about LeaseWeb all over the web.

And now you confirmed you are not a content producer because you don't think like one and probably are a stranded affiliate wannebe I can congratulate you on your transmission to my ignore list.

[EukerVoorn]

Originally Posted by k0nr4d

Leaseweb is a netherlands corp, they likely have another corp in USA that they use there that you must send DMCA to.

I think the problem starts with fuckers stealing our content and not with us not following the procedures correctly. It's a bit like someone getting burgled and the police not willing to do anything because the victim phones the wrong police department. The point is that there isn't any enthusiasm at LeaseWeb on dealing with this problem. They lie and cheat and cunt about it and the reason for this is that they want to be the biggest hosting provider in the world, and for that they chose the method of agressive marketing and part of that strategy is not respecting copyright laws. If for example you find stolen content on a hostgator server and you send a message to ANY hostgator contact, the problem with be DEALT with.

And to answer your comment; no LeaseWeb is and has only one corp and that is the corp in Netherlands, but on their site they state that they now also have servers in the USA.

[EukerVoorn]

Originally Posted by raymor

User the EU commerce directive, a web host is supposed to take a site spahn once they have knowledge ie from a notice sent by the OP. Either way they should do the right thing when they are notified of theft. "The right thing" isn't to complaint ignore the notice in any case. If they don't, kudos to Euker for refusing to do business with them.

It's a matter of principles. I rather get out of biz than having to accept that people I do biz with, also are part of the content- and software theft trade.

Has your software even been pirated btw Ray?

[Dirty F]

I don't get it. You host with the same people you send dmca's to?

[DamianJ]

Originally Posted by EukerVoorn

I now have a server with LeaseWeb in the Netherlands. It's obvious that they don't process DMCA notices

DMCA is an AMERICAN law, which means it is only applicable in AMERICANLAND.

Sigh.

[AdultEUhost]

Hi EukerVoorn,

While we don't receive DCMA/EUCD notifications often we look into every single one, same goes for SPAM related complaints by the way and act accordingly.

I am available on skype, email or icq if you have any further questions and I am looking forward working with you.

Leon

[Frosty]

Originally Posted by DamianJ

DMCA is an AMERICAN law, which means it is only applicable in AMERICANLAND.

Sigh.

It all starts out with the DMCA's, webmaster may refuse to cooperate - but you just go the upper way then. You contact the host, they tell you to shove the complaint up your ass? Well, that's ok too. You just contact the Datacenter directly, that doesn't work out? You contact the domain registrar, explain them the situation, com and net extensions are managed by VeriSign, a company from the United States. But no one has to go that far, everyone cooperates. No matter what domain extension they use, it never goes that bad. Hell, even file hosts cooperate, why wouldn't a blog or a forum.

As far as I know, Leaseweb has a strict policy. They do host a big amount of warez boards and blogs, but they refuse to host them as well after they receive a big amount of complaints regarding the site. - I know that because I moderated a Webmaster board on which you can find those same webmasters trying to bypass the removing of the content.

Hosts who claim that ignore the DMCA are mostly those with one server, trying to earn a buck or two.

[EukerVoorn]

Originally Posted by DamianJ

DMCA is an AMERICAN law, which means it is only applicable in AMERICANLAND.

And this site is? British? So where's the tea and the internal British flaming then?

And you seem to have forgotten how us Dutchies liberated you from the Germans in 1945, at the expense of the lives of millions of Dutch soldiers. What have you done for us in return after that? NOTHING! And that doesn't matter but at least show some respect for us Dutch people. My Granddad died during the Ramsgate invasion to save your Grandmother's ass!

[DamianJ]

Originally Posted by Frosty

It all starts out with the DMCA's, webmaster may refuse to cooperate - but you just go the upper way then. You contact the host, they tell you to shove the complaint up your ass? Well, that's ok too. You just contact the Datacenter directly, that doesn't work out? You contact the domain registrar, explain them the situation, com and net extensions are managed by VeriSign, a company from the United States. But no one has to go that far, everyone cooperates.

Got any evidence of anyone cooperating after a chain of events like this?

[EukerVoorn]

Originally Posted by AdultEUhost

While we don't receive DCMA/EUCD notifications often we look into every single one, same goes for SPAM related complaints by the way and act accordingly.

Hello Leon,

Please confirm that you do everything to keep piracy sites off your servers and you have a new customer

[AdultEUhost]

Regardless of if you become a customer or not, as I said before we always act on DCMA/EUCD notifications. But welcome aboard, I am sure you won't regret it :-)

[AdultEUhost-Sebas]

Welcome :-)

[EukerVoorn]

lol you talk like lawyers playing with words... you confirmed that you act on DMCA notices which means you will tell the site owner to remove a particular file from the server but if you get like notices about the same site owner over and over again, do you stop providing him with your service completely and tell him to get a server in North-Korea? Now say it: YES, and you have a new customer

[EukerVoorn]

It was you Sebastiaan I had a live chat with some weeks ago, you were so friendly

[AdultEUhost]

Originally Posted by EukerVoorn

lol you talk like lawyers playing with words... you confirmed that you act on DMCA notices which means you will tell the site owner to remove a particular file from the server but if you get like notices about the same site owner over and over again, do you stop providing him with your service completely and tell him to get a server in North-Korea? Now say it: YES, and you have a new customer

LOL, you think I play with words? You should see some of the DCMA requests we got in the past, got me a guaranteed win with scrabble a few times already.

But all kidding aside, if you repeatedly violate our terms and do not respond to several requests from us to cooperate in DCMA requests you will kindly be told to shop for hosting elsewhere

[EukerVoorn]

Leon I should have put smiley's behind my comment, I had just been dealing with LeaseWeb's lawyer and was still in the "talk to a lawyer" mood

And congrats you have a new customer. I'll mail you

[allzorotime]

Originally Posted by EukerVoorn

I now have a server with LeaseWeb in the Netherlands. It's obvious that they don't process DMCA notices and use copyright laws for wiping off their asses. I contacted them about intporn.com and oron.com and their reply comes down to showing me their middle finger. I'm happy with the server I have with them, reliable fast connection, but I don't want to do biz with them anymore, so I'm now looking for another hosting provider that offers dedicated servers with fast connection and fully respect the DMCA and international copyright mechanism. I need 6 to 10TB traffic/month. All suggestions welcome. I'm in touch with adulteuhost.com by the way, do they take down copyright infringing sites, can someone confirm or deny?

you can try:
1. send info about yout problem to their bank
Deutsche Bank Amsterdam
Gustav Mahlerlaan 10
1082 PP Amsterdam, NL Account 54.38.85.984
BIC ABNANL2A
IBAN NL85 ABNA 0543 8859 84
more info here: http://www.leaseweb.com/en/about-us/contact
I think they close their bank account
2.You can contact to ICANN with complaint http://www.icann.org/en/contact/

[epitome]

Go higher than the host. Their upstream provider may respect DMCA. If it is a dot com, go through the registrar. You've got to beat them at their own game.

I do respect you not choosing to do business with a company that doesn't respect your own business.

[moeloubani]

leaseweb hosts cp (or at least what would be cp in canada) it is picture of little kids including dudes daughters and stuff where they find pictures of these little girls and cum on the picture and take a picture

some of the pictures were like those child modeling ones where dudes were doing that but the most disgusting ones were guys with pictures they were saying were their daughters and stuff

tried to report it and got this:

This is not illegal. It is not actual Child Porn. Talking about sexual
fantasies is not illegal either.

Kind regards,

Lesley Koomen
Leaseweb - Security

[allzorotime]

Originally Posted by moeloubani

leaseweb hosts cp (or at least what would be cp in canada) it is picture of little kids including dudes daughters and stuff where they find pictures of these little girls and cum on the picture and take a picture

some of the pictures were like those child modeling ones where dudes were doing that but the most disgusting ones were guys with pictures they were saying were their daughters and stuff

tried to report it and got this:

if you know any pics or videos like cp, send abuse to http://www.icann.org/en/contact/
the domain LEASEWEB.COM must be banned too

[allzorotime]

Guys if you find your content on ORON.COM you can send abuse to PAYPAL, beacuse paypal disallow sell adult content.

i found this company: FF MAGNAT LIMITED. which paypal processed

[adejoode]

There seems to be a lot of confusion on who LeaseWeb is and how we handle abuse.

Please let me explain who LeaseWeb is:
LeaseWeb is a hosting company specialized in selling self-managed dedicated servers. We have one of the best networks available globally, due to our seize and scale we can offer a superior product for a very competitive price.

LeaseWeb has operations in 3 countries: Netherlands (via LeaseWeb BV), Germany (via LeaseWeb Germany GmbH) and United States (via LeaseWeb USA Inc). These are 3 seperate (legal) entities, all 3 engage in the same market: self-managed dedicated hosting.

How we handle abuse:
For the US based servers (sold via LeaseWeb USA Inc) we strictly adhere to the DMCA procedure as this is the jurisdiction where the servers are located in. For the European operations we are bound by the EU' E-Commerce Directive (the legal environment for those operating companies in The Netherlands and Germany).

The DMCA is not a valid instrument in Europe so we -cannot- disconnect a client based on receipt of a DMCA notice and tell him to sent us a count-DMCA before we reconnect him. This is, legally, not an option for our NL based operations. Under the E-Commerce Directive LeaseWeb is -not- liable for any perceived copyright infringements as we are a 'mere conduit' (we have no control over the content). Under the E-Commerce Directive the website itself is where you have to request a take down. So if LeaseWeb were to do nothing, legally it would be off the hook.

Our Corporate Social Responsability however mandates we also take into account the burden this would put on rights holders, therefore we do contact and escalate complaints we receive to our clients. We request them to take down obvious infringing content we have received notifictions for, and as far as we can see they always comply.

So a statement 'LeaseWeb is not DMCA respecting hosting provider' is not only factually incorrect (we do respect the DMCA in the US) but also does imply we do not care about copyrights at all. That is a gross misrepresentation of the way we deal with infringement claims. We do have a strict policy on copyright, we do suspend customers who are unwilling to remove content on the request of rights holders.

@moeloubani we refer CP complaints to the Vice Unit of the KLPD (National Police), as they are the experts on what is CP and what is not. For employee protection we do not asses the pictures ourselves, the reply you received is the result of the assesment the Vice Unit made.

Alex de Joode
Security Officer @LeaseWeb

[RycEric]

Originally Posted by adejoode

There seems to be a lot of confusion on who LeaseWeb is and how we handle abuse.

Please let me explain who LeaseWeb is:
LeaseWeb is a hosting company specialized in selling self-managed dedicated servers. We have one of the best networks available globally, due to our seize and scale we can offer a superior product for a very competitive price.

LeaseWeb has operations in 3 countries: Netherlands (via LeaseWeb BV), Germany (via LeaseWeb Germany GmbH) and United States (via LeaseWeb USA Inc). These are 3 seperate (legal) entities, all 3 engage in the same market: self-managed dedicated hosting.

How we handle abuse:
For the US based servers (sold via LeaseWeb USA Inc) we strictly adhere to the DMCA procedure as this is the jurisdiction where the servers are located in. For the European operations we are bound by the EU' E-Commerce Directive (the legal environment for those operating companies in The Netherlands and Germany).

The DMCA is not a valid instrument in Europe so we -cannot- disconnect a client based on receipt of a DMCA notice and tell him to sent us a count-DMCA before we reconnect him. This is, legally, not an option for our NL based operations. Under the E-Commerce Directive LeaseWeb is -not- liable for any perceived copyright infringements as we are a 'mere conduit' (we have no control over the content). Under the E-Commerce Directive the website itself is where you have to request a take down. So if LeaseWeb were to do nothing, legally it would be off the hook.

Our Corporate Social Responsability however mandates we also take into account the burden this would put on rights holders, therefore we do contact and escalate complaints we receive to our clients. We request them to take down obvious infringing content we have received notifictions for, and as far as we can see they always comply.

So a statement 'LeaseWeb is not DMCA respecting hosting provider' is not only factually incorrect (we do respect the DMCA in the US) but also does imply we do not care about copyrights at all. That is a gross misrepresentation of the way we deal with infringement claims. We do have a strict policy on copyright, we do suspend customers who are unwilling to remove content on the request of rights holders.

@moeloubani we refer CP complaints to the Vice Unit of the KLPD (National Police), as they are the experts on what is CP and what is not. For employee protection we do not asses the pictures ourselves, the reply you received is the result of the assesment the Vice Unit made.

Alex de Joode
Security Officer @LeaseWeb

Scumbags. Leaseweb is the worst pirate harbor on earth, in my opinion. Fuck you.

[RycEric]

On TPB piracy
http://www.piratgruppen.org/forum/sh...ad.php?t=97808
?The Pirate Bay is hosted on a different autonomous system (AS). LeaseWeb is not the host, and our client [NForce] is not hosting The Pirate Bay either. We are only the IP Transit supplier, or carrier of Internet traffic for a company that uses our carrier services,? Alex de Joode, Security Officer of Leaseweb told ISPam.

http://www.zeropaid.com/news/87086/h...rate-bay-isps/
?...If the site is hosted by Dutch providers we expect them to stop.?
Alex de Joode, Security Officer at LeaseWeb, disagreed, ..sic"

On Botnets
http://www.scmagazineuk.com/security...rticle/181758/
Security officer at LeaseWeb speaks about the Bredolab botnet's takedown

On Warez
http://webhostingprovider.org/dedica...-leaseweb.html
and on and on.

On Spam
http://www.google.com/#sclient=psy-a...w=1440&bih=775

On Hacking
http://www.liveipmap.com/95.211.132.71

It goes on and on.

[RycEric]

Originally Posted by adejoode

There seems to be a lot of confusion on who LeaseWeb is and how we handle abuse.

Please let me explain who LeaseWeb is:
LeaseWeb is a hosting company specialized in selling self-managed dedicated servers. We have one of the best networks available globally, due to our seize and scale we can offer a superior product for a very competitive price.

LeaseWeb has operations in 3 countries: Netherlands (via LeaseWeb BV), Germany (via LeaseWeb Germany GmbH) and United States (via LeaseWeb USA Inc). These are 3 seperate (legal) entities, all 3 engage in the same market: self-managed dedicated hosting.

How we handle abuse:
For the US based servers (sold via LeaseWeb USA Inc) we strictly adhere to the DMCA procedure as this is the jurisdiction where the servers are located in. For the European operations we are bound by the EU' E-Commerce Directive (the legal environment for those operating companies in The Netherlands and Germany).

The DMCA is not a valid instrument in Europe so we -cannot- disconnect a client based on receipt of a DMCA notice and tell him to sent us a count-DMCA before we reconnect him. This is, legally, not an option for our NL based operations. Under the E-Commerce Directive LeaseWeb is -not- liable for any perceived copyright infringements as we are a 'mere conduit' (we have no control over the content). Under the E-Commerce Directive the website itself is where you have to request a take down. So if LeaseWeb were to do nothing, legally it would be off the hook.

Our Corporate Social Responsability however mandates we also take into account the burden this would put on rights holders, therefore we do contact and escalate complaints we receive to our clients. We request them to take down obvious infringing content we have received notifictions for, and as far as we can see they always comply.

So a statement 'LeaseWeb is not DMCA respecting hosting provider' is not only factually incorrect (we do respect the DMCA in the US) but also does imply we do not care about copyrights at all. That is a gross misrepresentation of the way we deal with infringement claims. We do have a strict policy on copyright, we do suspend customers who are unwilling to remove content on the request of rights holders.

@moeloubani we refer CP complaints to the Vice Unit of the KLPD (National Police), as they are the experts on what is CP and what is not. For employee protection we do not asses the pictures ourselves, the reply you received is the result of the assesment the Vice Unit made.

Alex de Joode
Security Officer @LeaseWeb

FULL OF SHIT..... We have tons of these. Get lost poison pill of piracy.

Thanks for your mail to [email protected]. We have processed your mail and contacted our customer with a request to review your complaint and take appropriate action.

We have closed this ticket.

Kind Regards,
LeaseWeb Security, Abuse and Incident response Team.

LeaseWeb B.V.

P.O. Box 93054
1090 BB Amsterdam
The Netherlands

E: [email protected]
T: +31 (0)20 316 2880
F: +31 (0)20 316 2890
W: http://www.leaseweb.com/

10/15/2011 3:30:28 PM
http://img.socadvnet.com/out.php/i60149_f1fc8c91.jpg
http://img.socadvnet.com/out.php/i60152_e2150b69.jpg
http://img.socadvnet.com/out.php/i60153_eb28b4b0.jpg
http://img.socadvnet.com/out.php/i60154_4a5dc0fb.jpg
http://img.socadvnet.com/out.php/i60155_840e213b.jpg

[Nautilus]

Originally Posted by RycEric

FULL OF SHIT..... We have tons of these. Get lost poison pill of piracy.

Thanks for your mail to [email protected]. We have processed your mail and contacted our customer with a request to review your complaint and take appropriate action.

We have closed this ticket.

Kind Regards,
LeaseWeb Security, Abuse and Incident response Team.

LeaseWeb B.V.

P.O. Box 93054
1090 BB Amsterdam
The Netherlands

E: [email protected]
T: +31 (0)20 316 2880
F: +31 (0)20 316 2890
W: http://www.leaseweb.com/

10/15/2011 3:30:28 PM
http://img.socadvnet.com/out.php/i60149_f1fc8c91.jpg
http://img.socadvnet.com/out.php/i60152_e2150b69.jpg
http://img.socadvnet.com/out.php/i60153_eb28b4b0.jpg
http://img.socadvnet.com/out.php/i60154_4a5dc0fb.jpg
http://img.socadvnet.com/out.php/i60155_840e213b.jpg

Socadvnet is royal pain in the ass for sure. They also have link protection service to dodge link discovery, both manual and automated.

[RycEric]

Originally Posted by Nautilus

Socadvnet is royal pain in the ass for sure. They also have link protection service to dodge link discovery, both manual and automated.

Exactly. I have dealt with Alex before. He's a clown.. says one thing.. does another. The only time he got worried was when I said I was going to send all his big mainstream clients links to their activities. HINT HINT HINT folks.

[mike-x]

Originally Posted by adejoode

There seems to be a lot of confusion on who LeaseWeb is and how we handle abuse.

Please let me explain who LeaseWeb is:
LeaseWeb is a hosting company specialized in selling self-managed dedicated servers. We have one of the best networks available globally, due to our seize and scale we can offer a superior product for a very competitive price.

LeaseWeb has operations in 3 countries: Netherlands (via LeaseWeb BV), Germany (via LeaseWeb Germany GmbH) and United States (via LeaseWeb USA Inc). These are 3 seperate (legal) entities, all 3 engage in the same market: self-managed dedicated hosting.

How we handle abuse:
For the US based servers (sold via LeaseWeb USA Inc) we strictly adhere to the DMCA procedure as this is the jurisdiction where the servers are located in. For the European operations we are bound by the EU' E-Commerce Directive (the legal environment for those operating companies in The Netherlands and Germany).

The DMCA is not a valid instrument in Europe so we -cannot- disconnect a client based on receipt of a DMCA notice and tell him to sent us a count-DMCA before we reconnect him. This is, legally, not an option for our NL based operations. Under the E-Commerce Directive LeaseWeb is -not- liable for any perceived copyright infringements as we are a 'mere conduit' (we have no control over the content). Under the E-Commerce Directive the website itself is where you have to request a take down. So if LeaseWeb were to do nothing, legally it would be off the hook.

Our Corporate Social Responsability however mandates we also take into account the burden this would put on rights holders, therefore we do contact and escalate complaints we receive to our clients. We request them to take down obvious infringing content we have received notifictions for, and as far as we can see they always comply.

So a statement 'LeaseWeb is not DMCA respecting hosting provider' is not only factually incorrect (we do respect the DMCA in the US) but also does imply we do not care about copyrights at all. That is a gross misrepresentation of the way we deal with infringement claims. We do have a strict policy on copyright, we do suspend customers who are unwilling to remove content on the request of rights holders.

@moeloubani we refer CP complaints to the Vice Unit of the KLPD (National Police), as they are the experts on what is CP and what is not. For employee protection we do not asses the pictures ourselves, the reply you received is the result of the assesment the Vice Unit made.

Alex de Joode
Security Officer @LeaseWeb

Guys , what about ORON.COM ???
I sent abuse about this web site to [email protected]!
about ORON.com - they don't want remove our exclusive content from the servers.
We found our content here http://gay-bb.org/viewforum.php?f=24 YOU CAN FIND HERE a lot of content from big ADULT PAY SITES !!! All links point to ORON.COM !!!

We sent abuse to ORON.COM , but i saw that they just changed links!!! They did not remove content!!! what the FUCK ????

I sent abuse to you, but i did not receive any answer from you. Give me your email , i resend abuse to you.

[RycEric]

https://twitter.com/adejoode
https://twitter.com/#!/adejoode/status/6992629828
https://sabotage.org/
Registrant:
Societe Anonyme Botage
Zaanstraat 250
NL-1013, RZ Amsterdam
NL
Domain Name: SABOTAGE.ORG
Technical Contact:
Joode, Alex De [email protected]
DeJoode Associates, LLP.
Zaanstraat 250
-
-
NL-1013 RZ
NL
++ 31 20 690 1661 (FAX) ++ 31 20 530 4499

http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Arch.../msg00480.html
http://whois.domaintools.com/dizum.com

[email protected]

https://sabotage.org/handbook/vl1sc05.htm

Getting interesting now....

[EukerVoorn]

I registered www.aboutleaseweb.org some time ago and I'll be happy to use that site to go public on the child pornography issue. Mr Joode may think that pics of underage girls with cum on their face isn't cp but I'm sure the Dutch media will have a different opinion on that. Leaseweb is also participating in distributing animal pornography which is now prohibited under Dutch law. Anyone having links to cp and ap hosted by LeaseWeb please mail to [email protected] and I'll publish them on aboutleaseweb.org and bring this site under the attention of the Dutch media.

Mr Joode is a co-founder of the reporting point for online cp in Holland and the fact that he plays down certain kinds of cp distributed by LeaseWeb makes things very media hot. Animal porn is a very tricky thing as well because the line between animal porn and crushing porn is very thin. If there's one thing the adult industry AND the internet industry in general should stay away from it's the abuse and exploitation of innocent, harmless creatures like children and animals.

Most hosting providers wouldn't think twice about taking a server online if there's only a SUSPICION of the presence of illegal content. Why's that not with LeaseWeb? Maybe because they're unreliable self indulged inbreed scum?

[Allison]

Originally Posted by DamianJ

DMCA is an AMERICAN law, which means it is only applicable in AMERICANLAND.

Sigh.

Ummm far from the truth... U.S. laws apply to any one or any corporation that has business dealings in the U.S. For example, significant numbers of U.S. customers, an interactive website that interacts with U.S. surfers, employees in the U.S., offices or equipment like servers in the U.S. or even assets. As well as significant business relationships in the U.S. with advertisers or vendors, etc. Or if that company ever used U.S. law to sue another company makes them eligible for U.S. jurisdiction.

There are a countless number of foreign companies that are successfully sued under U.S. Law although some times U.S. companies use international law to sue foreign companies because it makes their case stronger.

[EukerVoorn]

Originally Posted by adejoode

There seems to be a lot of confusion on who LeaseWeb is and how we handle abuse.

Please let me explain who LeaseWeb is:
LeaseWeb is a hosting company specialized in selling self-managed dedicated servers. We have one of the best networks available globally, due to our seize and scale we can offer a superior product for a very competitive price.

This is complete bullshit. I've been with several hosting providers in the past 15 years, all based in either the US or Holland and my experience with LeaseWeb has been the worst. It's been a fucking nightmare. Of the 3 servers I had, none was set-up and handed over by LeaseWeb properly and each time I asked for support, everything support did was aimed at forcing me to purchase a support contract.

One of the servers was not connected to the web properly so connection was very slow. After I reported this to your support department, one of your clowns disconnected 4 of the 5 ip addresses from the server so most of my sites went down completely. After things were resolved again, all this clown could say was "it's not my fault".

The LeaseWeb management and support team must be the most retarded and incapable web hosting company on this globe. The only good thing you have is fast connections but that must be due to your agressive marketing policy enabling you to hire the best datacenters and backbone connections money can buy. But the way you deal with your clients and the way you play down piracy and cp in reality (because what you post here is just a cheap show, really) destroys the little good you have. And if you would have a little bit of intelligence you would understand that in the end there will be nothing but losers and no winners, because if you allow these piracy bastards to win, in the end there won't be any porn producers left so there won't be any content left to sell, share and steal and then you can close down at least half of your data centers.

Your product isn't superiour; it's plain crap. It can't be compared to adultEUhost's service for example. The way they deal with clients, set up and hand over the server and their aftersales is heaven compared to what you attempt to do.

You are not what you claim about yourself, you are what people write about you on the web. And if you do some googling and reading about Leaseweb, you can come to only one conclusion: Leaseweb is unreliable arrogant scum, period.

[mike-x]

Originally Posted by RycEric

Joode, Alex De [email protected]

i sent email to him but i have not receive any answer yet

[Half man, Half Amazing]

Originally Posted by adejoode

There seems to be a lot of confusion on who LeaseWeb is and how we handle abuse.

Scumbags who make shitloads of money hosting warez and piracy sites.

Please let me explain who LeaseWeb is:
LeaseWeb is a hosting company specialized in selling self-managed dedicated servers. We have one of the best networks available globally, due to our seize and scale we can offer a superior product for a very competitive price.

And we'll host the shit outta any piracy site you can imagine. Open a "user generated" CP site that hotlinks to CP downloads on Filesonic...sure...we'll host you!

LeaseWeb has operations in 3 countries: Netherlands (via LeaseWeb BV), Germany (via LeaseWeb Germany GmbH) and United States (via LeaseWeb USA Inc). These are 3 seperate (legal) entities, all 3 engage in the same market: self-managed dedicated hosting.

All 3 also engage in hosting warez and piracy sites and we don't give a fuck where the money comes from as long as we're making bank baby!

How we handle abuse:
For the US based servers (sold via LeaseWeb USA Inc) we strictly adhere to the DMCA procedure as this is the jurisdiction where the servers are located in. For the European operations we are bound by the EU' E-Commerce Directive (the legal environment for those operating companies in The Netherlands and Germany).

The DMCA is not a valid instrument in Europe so we -cannot- disconnect a client based on receipt of a DMCA notice and tell him to sent us a count-DMCA before we reconnect him. This is, legally, not an option for our NL based operations. Under the E-Commerce Directive LeaseWeb is -not- liable for any perceived copyright infringements as we are a 'mere conduit' (we have no control over the content). Under the E-Commerce Directive the website itself is where you have to request a take down. So if LeaseWeb were to do nothing, legally it would be off the hook.

AKA the we don't have to do anything act

Our Corporate Social Responsability however mandates we also take into account the burden this would put on rights holders, therefore we do contact and escalate complaints we receive to our clients. We request them to take down obvious infringing content we have received notifictions for, and as far as we can see they always comply.

This is complete horseshit but it sure looks good to type. We don't actually do anything if the site doesn't comply....we just keep cashing those checks bitches!!!

So a statement 'LeaseWeb is not DMCA respecting hosting provider' is not only factually incorrect (we do respect the DMCA in the US) but also does imply we do not care about copyrights at all. That is a gross misrepresentation of the way we deal with infringement claims. We do have a strict policy on copyright, we do suspend customers who are unwilling to remove content on the request of rights holders.

#notintendedtobeafactualstatement. In actuality, we are the GO TO host for copyright theives and cash whores, that is if Ecatel won't take you.

Alex de Joode
Security Officer @LeaseWeb

Head piracy site handholder

#thetruth

Also, keep in mind that XBIZ has nominated these scumbags for Best Host....If Leaseweb wins, we riot.

[RycEric]

Leaseweb mainstream clients: Go go google harvesting bot go.

http://www.leaseweb.com/en/about-us/clients

Info Support is a computer software company, providing solid and innovative software solutions to successfully manage organisations? back office infrastructure

Uptrends.com has over 1,500 customers in 23 countries, including blue chip clients such as IBM,eBay, Getty, Shell, and HSBC, and has been recognised for providing superior performance to its clients.

Dediserv Dedicated Servers Sp.z o.o (www.dediserv.eu) is a privately held company, headquartered in Poland, with a global client base.

The Wikimedia Foundation is a non-profit organization that operates the free online encyclopaedia Wikipedia.


Boasting a collection of 1.3 million specimens worth approximately 8 billion euros, the Amsterdam Rijksmuseum is the Netherlands? largest and most important museum.
http://www.rijksmuseum.nl/index.jsp?lang=en

MCH+ has been supplying total planning, registration and communication solutions for the healthcare industry since 2002.

AFAS ERP Software is a Dutch vendor of ERP software

MamboFive is a software company specializing in solutions for professional Internet stores.

123Video is located in Roden, in the province of Groningen.

Koninklijke Joh. Enschedé (e.g., Joh. Ensch.) is a prominent family-owned Dutch printing company founded in the city of Haarlem in 1703

Launched in 2007, Jaap.nl is second-largest home-finding website in the Netherlands?.

Relatieplanet.nl is the biggest and busiest dating site in the Netherlands and Belgium.

Seneca is the ICT service provider for effective solutions in the field of web technology and electronic services.

Zaplive.tv is a multilingual portal for live streaming based in Germany. Companies, institutions and private persons can stream concerts,

Twenga is a global product comparison site that started up in 2006. The unbiased and comprehensive shopping search engine allows consumers to compare over 70 million products in 100,000 product categories on various e-commerce websites.

OGD is an ICT service provider with branch offices in Delft, Amsterdam, Utrecht, Eindhoven and Enschede.

TTY Internet Solutions is an innovative web builder with a rapidly expanding personnel base of more than 40 employees

MyAlbum is a free rapidly growing online photo service with more than 1.3 million members.

Scoutle.com is located in the Netherlands in the Centre for Entrepreneurship and Innovation (CvOI) on the campus of Utrecht University where innovative start-ups get support for their go-to-market strategy.

Kaspersky, based in Russia, is a computer security company, co-founded by Natalia Kaspersky and Eugene Kaspersky in 1997.

[RycEric]

Originally Posted by Half man, Half Amazing

All 3 also engage in hosting warez and piracy sites and we don't give a fuck where the money comes from as long as we're making bank baby!

http://sabotage.org/
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So gangsta fam. He must've been from walkin the mainline and hustlin dat shit.

[gideongallery]

Originally Posted by EukerVoorn

I now have a server with LeaseWeb in the Netherlands. It's obvious that they don't process DMCA notices and use copyright laws for wiping off their asses. I contacted them about intporn.com and oron.com and their reply comes down to showing me their middle finger. I'm happy with the server I have with them, reliable fast connection, but I don't want to do biz with them anymore, so I'm now looking for another hosting provider that offers dedicated servers with fast connection and fully respect the DMCA and international copyright mechanism. I need 6 to 10TB traffic/month. All suggestions welcome. I'm in touch with adulteuhost.com by the way, do they take down copyright infringing sites, can someone confirm or deny?

do you follow Canadian privacy laws

or any of the middle eastern anti-porn laws

[AdultEUhost]

Originally Posted by EukerVoorn

...It can't be compared to adultEUhost's service for example. The way they deal with clients, set up and hand over the server and their aftersales is heaven compared to what you attempt to do...

Thank you sir

[tonyparra]

/thread backfire....epic ...

[EukerVoorn]

So the conclusion, in short... LeaseWeb is scum. Thread closed

[Roald]

Originally Posted by EukerVoorn

I registered www.aboutleaseweb.org some time ago and I'll be happy to use that site to go public on the child pornography issue. Mr Joode may think that pics of underage girls with cum on their face isn't cp but I'm sure the Dutch media will have a different opinion on that. Leaseweb is also participating in distributing animal pornography which is now prohibited under Dutch law. Anyone having links to cp and ap hosted by LeaseWeb please mail to [email protected] and I'll publish them on aboutleaseweb.org and bring this site under the attention of the Dutch media.

Mr Joode is a co-founder of the reporting point for online cp in Holland and the fact that he plays down certain kinds of cp distributed by LeaseWeb makes things very media hot. Animal porn is a very tricky thing as well because the line between animal porn and crushing porn is very thin. If there's one thing the adult industry AND the internet industry in general should stay away from it's the abuse and exploitation of innocent, harmless creatures like children and animals.

Most hosting providers wouldn't think twice about taking a server online if there's only a SUSPICION of the presence of illegal content. Why's that not with LeaseWeb? Maybe because they're unreliable self indulged inbreed scum?

Sorry but this is not making much sense.

However I will keep an eye on the news next week in case you want to prove me wrong.

[cooldude7]

jesus they are cheap ............