85% of the .XXX registrations are defensive. - GoFuckYourself.com

Redrob · 12-16-2011, 06:45 PM

Link to Article

Looks like an epic fail in the making in my personal opinion.

At $70 per domain in revenue, the total revenue to date would be only $6,650,000 which, allegedly, is far less than they spent ramming .XXX up our industry's ass.

DBS.US · 12-16-2011, 06:46 PM

Fat Panda · 12-16-2011, 06:57 PM

fuck xxx . . .

MrCain · 12-16-2011, 07:03 PM

They wasted their money.

Jakez · 12-16-2011, 07:11 PM

Good for them.

Edit: far less than they have spent thus far or will spend? The dotxxx guy said they will focus on the consumer branding in 2012, so plenty of spending yet to come.

Caligari · 12-16-2011, 07:23 PM

What a tragedy;)

They will theoretically have the recurring yearly though, but I somehow doubt that is going to hold up.

Regardless it looks like they will be struggling to break even.

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MrCain · 12-16-2011, 07:38 PM

What if those 85% find out that ICM Registry recently started protecting trademarks for free?

Redrob · 12-16-2011, 07:43 PM

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What if those 85% find out that ICM Registry recently started protecting trademarks for free?

Ouch!!!!!

FetishWeb · 12-16-2011, 07:56 PM

What the jerkoff who wrote the article forgot to mention is that names that aren't resolving (ie, where the registrant hasn't joined the sponsor community) won't show up in the zone file at all as they do not have DNS.

Therefore, the zone file is not reflective of total registrations, only about 50-65% probably.

85% total? Not a chance. He should stick to his 1998 web designing.

Redrob · 12-16-2011, 08:44 PM

Gee, then why do the domain names registered defensively show up since they are not supposed to resolve?

Please clarify......

FetishWeb · 12-16-2011, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Redrob

Gee, then why do the domain names registered defensively show up since they are not supposed to resolve?

Please clarify......

"defensive" blocks are still pointing to ICMs nameservers in DNS, thats how an imbecile can supposedly "count" them so fast.

I'm saying in his percentage he can't count the names that are registered but not resolving and have no DNS. There is a ton of them and no way to know what they are.

Operator · 12-16-2011, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DBS.US

lagcam · 12-16-2011, 09:54 PM

Way too early to make assumptions either way (whatever your agenda).

The true picture will start to be seen come renewal time.

JFK · 12-16-2011, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by lagcam

Way too early to make assumptions either way (whatever your agenda).

The true picture will start to be seen come renewal time.

well, that's one way of looking at it

adendreams · 12-16-2011, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DBS.US

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2intense · 12-16-2011, 11:18 PM

fuck .xxx

marlboroack · 12-17-2011, 02:55 AM

Then why the hell don't they send me a frickin' teeshirt

DotXXX · 12-17-2011, 02:55 PM

Since it doesn't represent the entirety of the registry, the article is really only telling half the story.

seeandsee · 12-17-2011, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DotXXX

Since it doesn't represent the entirety of the registry, the article is really only telling half the story.

Then you can tell us second half of the story?

MrCain · 12-17-2011, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DotXXX

Since it doesn't represent the entirety of the registry, the article is really only telling half the story.

Then tell us the other half of the story. How many domains have been registered so far? How many of those registrations were defensive?

Redrob · 12-17-2011, 03:16 PM

I'd hope ICM would give priority to the adult webmasters that are registering to actually use the their domain names. If not, then why not?

Also, even if the zone file is twice or three times as large, why would the percentage of defensive registrations change?

If adult webmasters are being given a priority, then the amount of defensive registrations not being added to the zone file due to their lower priority could eventually raise the percentage of defensive registrations to 90 or even 95% as the defensive registrations are slowly added.

Redrob · 12-17-2011, 09:10 PM

Bump for .XXX answer.

MrCain · 12-18-2011, 07:39 AM

Bump for answers.

cherrylula · 12-18-2011, 07:50 AM

Why is it everyone's business who and how many registered a .xxx domain? You people are turning into a lynch mob now.

Black All Through · 12-18-2011, 08:06 AM

That was ICM's plan from the very start

stocktrader23 · 12-18-2011, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by cherrylula

Why is it everyone's business who and how many registered a .xxx domain? You people are turning into a lynch mob now.

Turning into? GFY has been a running lynch mob since I last checked in around 4 or 5 years ago.

cherrylula · 12-18-2011, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by stocktrader23

Turning into? GFY has been a running lynch mob since I last checked in around 4 or 5 years ago.

no shit, facepalm!! lol

Redrob · 12-18-2011, 09:55 AM

Asking questions or stating personal opinions is a long way from a lynch mob.

Fabien · 12-18-2011, 02:55 PM

FUCK them !

They fuck guys registering names by reversing their orders, the fees are fucking insane, they refuse some domain registrations, they register domains for them and make others pay the price and the worst part, they will create a GHETTO AFTER !

Isn't that enough ?

Redrob · 12-18-2011, 06:13 PM

Bump for evening shift at GFY.....

Caligari · 12-18-2011, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Redrob

Asking questions or stating personal opinions is a long way from a lynch mob.

It would appear that even .XXX has made some friends here on GFY...fancy that

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Redrob · 12-19-2011, 06:51 AM

While I would not consider myself a "friend" as I haven't supported their efforts.

MrCain · 12-19-2011, 07:42 AM

Bump for answers.

Caligari · 12-19-2011, 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redrob

While I would not consider myself a "friend" as I haven't supported their efforts.

Actually I was referring to the others that you were originally replying to.

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ffmihai · 12-19-2011, 09:52 AM

i guess big part of the problem is the price. im sure that if the price would have been like 10-15$/domain, all adult webamsters would have now at least 5 domains registered.

cherrylula · 12-19-2011, 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Caligari

It would appear that even .XXX has made some friends here on GFY...fancy that

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Friends? lol yeah okay... people want .xxx to go away but want to know all about it and who is buying... lol yeah okay tell me why they are supposed to divulge their customer info to gfy?

Never give out customer info, that's just bad business.

cherrylula · 12-19-2011, 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ffmihai

i guess big part of the problem is the price. im sure that if the price would have been like 10-15$/domain, all adult webamsters would have now at least 5 domains registered.

Um, actually, if an adult webmaster can't afford .xxx domains, he has failed and needs to go work at burger king. lol

BlackCrayon · 12-19-2011, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by cherrylula

Um, actually, if an adult webmaster can't afford .xxx domains, he has failed and needs to go work at burger king. lol

says the person who sets up sites on .info domains.

think about it..lots of guys own 2000-3000 adult .com domains. so 20-30,000 a year at 10 bucks a year...still quite a lot of money. imagine paying 100 bucks each year for those..200-300,000...

Redrob · 12-19-2011, 07:11 PM

Quote:

I'd hope ICM would give priority to the adult webmasters that are registering to actually use the their domain names. If not, then why not?

Also, even if the zone file is twice or three times as large, why would the percentage of defensive registrations change?

If adult webmasters are being given a priority, then the amount of defensive registrations not being added to the zone file due to their lower priority could eventually raise the percentage of defensive registrations to 90 or even 95% as the defensive registrations are slowly added.

Gee, DotXXX was on GFY today and didn't answer my questions. I guess he skipped this thread.

ruff · 12-19-2011, 07:21 PM

This is the last .xxx thread I'm going to look at. I'm putting .xxx on ignore.

TheLegacy · 12-19-2011, 07:30 PM

Still baffles me that someone would pay so much for a domain that is designed to be blocked by so many countries. Politicians love it because they feel they've won over the industry and those that sell "snake oil" xxx walk away from those who believe they are protecting their name. Best way is to ignore them - don't buy the xxx and keep things going full steam ahead.

Who ever buys the URL can't use your content and if they do - then that is when you can sue them and charge them with not having the proper 2257 doc's in place when creating the site.

FetishWeb · 12-19-2011, 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redrob

Also, even if the zone file is twice or three times as large, why would the percentage of defensive registrations change?

"defensive" registrations were made during sunrise a/b, etc.

the non-resolving names that you think are mostly defensive would have had to have been registered during general availability according to this idiocy.

why would a trademark holder wait until general availability to register one of their marks? That's when the non-resolving names were registered. Those wouldn't be "defensive" those would be people who don't own trademarks.

MrCain · 12-23-2011, 09:42 AM

Another analysis: http://www.namenewsletter.com/index....-the-aftermath

12-16-2011, 06:45 PM	#1
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FetishWeb Confirmed User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 390	What the jerkoff who wrote the article forgot to mention is that names that aren't resolving (ie, where the registrant hasn't joined the sponsor community) won't show up in the zone file at all as they do not have DNS. Therefore, the zone file is not reflective of total registrations, only about 50-65% probably. 85% total? Not a chance. He should stick to his 1998 web designing.

12-16-2011, 08:44 PM	#10
Redrob Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: In a refrigerator box by the tracks. Posts: 4,790	Gee, then why do the domain names registered defensively show up since they are not supposed to resolve? Please clarify......

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marlboroack So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: ☣ Posts: 9,327	Then why the hell don't they send me a frickin' teeshirt

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12-17-2011, 03:16 PM	#21
Redrob Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: In a refrigerator box by the tracks. Posts: 4,790	I'd hope ICM would give priority to the adult webmasters that are registering to actually use the their domain names. If not, then why not? Also, even if the zone file is twice or three times as large, why would the percentage of defensive registrations change? If adult webmasters are being given a priority, then the amount of defensive registrations not being added to the zone file due to their lower priority could eventually raise the percentage of defensive registrations to 90 or even 95% as the defensive registrations are slowly added. Last edited by Redrob; 12-17-2011 at 03:17 PM..

12-17-2011, 09:10 PM	#22
Redrob Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: In a refrigerator box by the tracks. Posts: 4,790	Bump for .XXX answer.

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cherrylula lol Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 15,969	Why is it everyone's business who and how many registered a .xxx domain? You people are turning into a lynch mob now.

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Redrob Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: In a refrigerator box by the tracks. Posts: 4,790	Asking questions or stating personal opinions is a long way from a lynch mob.

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Fabien Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 4,787	FUCK them ! They fuck guys registering names by reversing their orders, the fees are fucking insane, they refuse some domain registrations, they register domains for them and make others pay the price and the worst part, they will create a GHETTO AFTER ! Isn't that enough ?

12-18-2011, 06:13 PM	#30
Redrob Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: In a refrigerator box by the tracks. Posts: 4,790	Bump for evening shift at GFY.....

12-19-2011, 06:51 AM	#32
Redrob Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: In a refrigerator box by the tracks. Posts: 4,790	While I would not consider myself a "friend" as I haven't supported their efforts.

12-19-2011, 07:42 AM	#33
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ffmihai keep walking... Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 7,177	i guess big part of the problem is the price. im sure that if the price would have been like 10-15$/domain, all adult webamsters would have now at least 5 domains registered. __________________

12-19-2011, 07:21 PM	#40
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12-19-2011, 07:30 PM	#41
TheLegacy SEO Connoisseur Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Brantford, Ontario Posts: 16,381	Still baffles me that someone would pay so much for a domain that is designed to be blocked by so many countries. Politicians love it because they feel they've won over the industry and those that sell "snake oil" xxx walk away from those who believe they are protecting their name. Best way is to ignore them - don't buy the xxx and keep things going full steam ahead. Who ever buys the URL can't use your content and if they do - then that is when you can sue them and charge them with not having the proper 2257 doc's in place when creating the site. __________________ SEO Connoisseur Microsoft Teams: Robert Warren SEO Telegram: @TheLegacy54 RobertWarrenSEO.com

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MrCain Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 3,332	Another analysis: http://www.namenewsletter.com/index....-the-aftermath __________________ Sigmund